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not that anyone asked for it but here's my Thunderheart novelization thoughts

So fun fact: When I was in grad school, one night I had a convergence of insomnia + Val Kilmer hyperfixation + free access to JSTOR, which resulted in me starting a fight with this professor guy in Arizona (I think?) who wrote an article about Thunderheart reducing Maggie Eagle Bear to a love interest.

I agree with you on pretty much every point. One of the best things about Thunderheart is that Maggie is not a love interest. She is a rich, nuanced, and accomplished character, and the feelings Ray has for her are incredibly complicated (and definitely not simply romantic or sexual) and never outright acknowledged or acted upon by either party.

She is an wonderfully written and fully realized character who affects the plot but, really, is on her own arc that only briefly intersects with Ray's.

Ahem.

I feel about the novelization the same way I feel about the early draft of the script: I like having it, and there are parts of it I like and parts of it I don't, but I wouldn't change anything about the film. I think in both cases, the Ray on the page is a lot harder than Ray Levoi onscreen, and I think it's a vital change and a huge improvement. In Roger Ebert's review of the film, he said he didn't 100% buy Ray's sea change over the course of the film, and I would agree with him if the film had been about either of the other Rays. But film Ray is only hard on the outside. A mask, armor, for protection. Inside he's soft, fluid, unsure*—and because of that, he begins ambivalent, really, so it's less toppling a stone fortress and more the tides against a sand castle.

* He SCREAMS water sign. Soft, brave Cancer boy who went into law enforcement because he wants to protects people and things worth protecting. Crabs are soft beneath their shells, too.

And yes, every Walter is a great Walter. 😎

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we may have gotten "fuck you" "you'd love to" but the cost was losing this

like this is their final conversation, imagine the movie ending on that note. unhinged

There's a lot of things I like in that version of the script, including Ray's little admissions essay, Crow Horse being super disappointed there isn't any cool James Bond shit in Ray's FBI car, and their trip to the shooting range. But I wouldn't change what we got.

Also, John Fusco is... something. He lives in the middle of the woods and just, like, hangs out with wildlife and makes questionable choices. He's a bizarre but enjoyable human.

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I refuse to believe that Ray's Wounded Knee vision came to him "in a dream" like he tells Walter. he just sat down in his car and immediately passed out to have the vision. he was not taking a surprise nap in the 100° heat, the spirits saw him sweat more than anyone ever has in an Inípi and went "close enough" and just KO'd him with the vision

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