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@i-isa-i / i-isa-i.tumblr.com

After 10+ years on this hellsite I still don't really know how to use it. I post what I feel like/ my current hyperfixation. Wrote a 100 page thesis about spn and fandom culture so that should be a good indicator 😅 (she/her)
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you know how the next US presidential election will take place on november 5th this year? you know how 9-1-1 has already been renewed for a season 8 that will probably air this fall? you know how there’s a very real possibility that buddie could go canon in season 8?

I’m just saying, the abc network and 9-1-1 executives have the possibility to do the funniest thing ever.

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I think it’s so interesting how much authority is awarded “the author” in different fandoms. You always here people scream “Death of the Author” but still hold up authorship as an authoritative concept.

Like, when Buffy had bad storylines the consensus was something like ‘trust Joss Whedon” who btw turned out to be a horrible person.

Similarly, Kripke was kind of deified by the fandom (and also kind of by the show) during early seasons spn.

Even disclaimers on fanfics show this dynamic. Why did we write stuff like ‘these characters belong to JKR’?!? Like no shit, I didn’t create Sirius Black but the character still doesn’t belong to that woman?

It’s so interesting to look at the stark difference between gomens and spn fan discourse at the moment. I’m not saying one way is the right way, just that the dynamics are interesting.

Neil says something and most people respect it, some even see it as their duty to act as his apostle and spread his word. People are in his asks to try and get his opinion on certain fan theory bc they consider him the ultimate authority over canon.

And then you have spn fans, especially destiel fans. Not only do they not care what kripke/ dabb or most of the show runners say, they actively oppose the “authors”’ perceived interpretations of the characters and routinely make fun of them. Dabb says he wrote a finale that is only meant to satisfy 30% of the fans and the rest of the fandom decides to strike it from canon and collectively produce enough fix-it fic to fill a library.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Dabb or Kripke or whoever had asked the fandom to keep a spoiler or leak like the gomens one a secret?!? It would have become a meme in 5 seconds and it would have trended above a historic election.

No, I deffo agree with this. Like, Dabb and Kripke (and many more people involved in the creation of spn) treated fans horribly so of course fans act accordingly. And Neil Gaiman seems to be a nice dude, has genuinely interesting takes and respects and speaks out on behalf of queer fans. But I honestly think there is more to it. I think it’s interesting how our like/ dislike of an author shapes how much we “respect” authorship as an authoritative concept as a whole. And how much we accept the authors’ words as canon. Like, theoretically we could still say “Dabb sucks but he wrote it so he knows best” but we don’t do this. And on the other side of it, lotr fandom mostly analyses stuff through the lens of “what did Tolkien intend”.

And you say Neil deserves respect, which I agree with, but we still post about the leak. So idk, I just think it’s interesting.

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I think it’s so interesting how much authority is awarded “the author” in different fandoms. You always here people scream “Death of the Author” but still hold up authorship as an authoritative concept.

Like, when Buffy had bad storylines the consensus was something like ‘trust Joss Whedon” who btw turned out to be a horrible person.

Similarly, Kripke was kind of deified by the fandom (and also kind of by the show) during early seasons spn.

Even disclaimers on fanfics show this dynamic. Why did we write stuff like ‘these characters belong to JKR’?!? Like no shit, I didn’t create Sirius Black but the character still doesn’t belong to that woman?

It’s so interesting to look at the stark difference between gomens and spn fan discourse at the moment. I’m not saying one way is the right way, just that the dynamics are interesting.

Neil says something and most people respect it, some even see it as their duty to act as his apostle and spread his word. People are in his asks to try and get his opinion on certain fan theory bc they consider him the ultimate authority over canon.

And then you have spn fans, especially destiel fans. Not only do they not care what kripke/ dabb or most of the show runners say, they actively oppose the “authors”’ perceived interpretations of the characters and routinely make fun of them. Dabb says he wrote a finale that is only meant to satisfy 30% of the fans and the rest of the fandom decides to strike it from canon and collectively produce enough fix-it fic to fill a library.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Dabb or Kripke or whoever had asked the fandom to keep a spoiler or leak like the gomens one a secret?!? It would have become a meme in 5 seconds and it would have trended above a historic election.

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