If you are a white western woman, stay away from brown men and never say yes to their marriage proposals. Brown men have this disgusting obsession with winning a white woman as a trophy wife because they love showing off to everyone in our south asian culture they made a woman from west, who they always assume to be an independent free girl, do traditional labour for them and live under their domination. Bringing a western woman down under the patriarchal hierarchy somehow raises brown men’s value in our culture.

If you are a brown south asian woman, stay away from white men and never say yes to their marriage proposals. You might think white men would be less misogynistic because western culture is more liberated than our south asian culture. But that’s not the case! The fact that women in west have a lot more freedom than us is the entire reason white men desire to pursue someone from patriarchal cultures. They don’t want to marry you to free you from this oppressive society, they want to marry you because they expect you to provide them with traditional labour.

This is facts. It is of note that men often feel like bagging a woman of another skintone is an own aginst men of that skintone. The kkk said "oh all these black men are going to ruin our pure women" and black and brown men said "bet"

White men think women of color are going to be more submissive. As well as thinking they are striking a blow against men of color by "stealing" thier women.

Both of these are also in general accompanied by raceisim and misogyny towards the women of their own culture black men dateing white women often really hate black women claiming white women "know their place better" whereas white men often say the exact same thing about women of color that they are more submissive than white women who have been ruined by western life.

Tldr: basically if a man hates any kind of woman that'd a red flag.

the amount of women out here theorycrafting heinously pseudoscientific and delusional copes for why the men they date act like they don’t give a fuck about her makes me want to tear my hair out. i lose 6 months off my life every time i hear about “anxious attachment.” please get real

he ignores you for days at a time because he doesn’t care. he ghosts after sex because that is all he wanted from you. he strings you along but refuses an exclusive relationship because he does not want to date you. he won’t introduce you to his friends because you are not one of his friends. he doesn’t do his share of the housework because he thinks you should do it. he acts inconsiderate because he does not think about you. his words don’t match his actions because the words are lies.

postulating about his “attachment style” and his “unhealed trauma” and his “neurodivergence” and the deep conflicting reasons for his behavior is a waste of your fucking time. he acts like he doesn’t like you because he does not like you, and because he can get away with it. y’all are making up a whole different man in your head because you so badly want to believe he isn’t a womanhating parasite. you are imagining a soul in the dried up corpse of a roach. you are projecting depth and vulnerability onto a dog shit wedged in your shoe. stop giving losers the benefit of the doubt PLEASE i am on my knees like a dog BEGGING all women

He is not narcissistic, he is just an asshole

He doesn't have autism, he is just disrespectful

He doesn't have ADHD, he is just lazy

He doesn't have anxious or disorganized attachment, he doesn't care about you

He is not addicted to sex, he is just a cheater

He doesn't have anger problems; he just chose to unload on you

He is not "just joking", he is just avoiding accountability with you

He doesn't have trauma, he just hates you

YOU CAN'T FIX HIM

HEAVY on the "because he can get away with it"

For some reason it bothers me very much when people describe old women as "grandma" instead of just saying woman. "In Howl's moving castle an 18-year old girl is turned into a 90-year old grandma" she literally doesn't have any children or grandchildren. "A picture of a grandma and her pet rooster in Kyiv 1980s" she's a woman. We don't know anything about her family status. Just say woman

That’s because we, as a society, default to the belief that women are meant to be mothers. So when we see an older woman, it’s almost unthinkable she has no grandkids, that she is, god forbid, happily a spinster, or something scary like that. Just imagine!

Old men can just be old men, or even just "men". An old woman is a grandma if she's seen as worthy of some degree of care and respect (something implicitly gained by being maternal), and an "old lady", "mean old lady", "crazy cat lady", "crazy hag", "decrepit bitch", etc... if she doesn't fit neatly enough into the stereotypical grandma mold, if she isn't sufficiently sweet, nurturing, and docile.

It's all just revealing of the kinds of roles that are seen as legitimate for women. You're essentially seen as illegitimate if you choose to not put your body through hell via a pregnancy or partner with males and it's doubly true in more conservative cultures where women have less opportunities and where they're quite literally forced to marry and pump out kids.

"In recruiting subjects for their study, they sought out three different groups of women in intimate relationships: emotionally and physically abused, emotionally abused only, and non-abused. However, cluster analysis of their data revealed that, among women with live-in heterosexual partners, there were no distinct abused and nonabused groups. Rather, male-female relationships were described by a continuum of abuse. ALL male-female relationships were more or less abusive. Even among dating couples Graham, Foliano, et al. (1990) found that 42 percent of the women in the sample, mainly college freshman, had experienced at least some physical abuse in their current relationship. Seventy-eight percent had experienced at least some emotional abuse in the same relationship. One third of this sample had been dating six months or less!

Bart (1983; Bart and O’Brien 1985) has identified a heterosexual sex-rape continuum. At one end is consensual sex (both parties equally desire sex). At the other is rape. In between are altruistic sex (one party submits out of guilt, duty, or pity) and compliant sex (one party submits because the consequences of not submitting are worse than those of submitting).

Using Bart’s conceptualization, Kelly found that most women “felt pressured to have sex in many, if not all, of their sexual relationships with men” (p. 56). Yet she found that women perceived sex as coercive only when physical force or the threat of physical force was used. An event usually was not called rape by women unless the perpetrator was a stranger, it happened at night and outdoors, physical force was used, and they resisted. Moreover, Scheppele and Bart (1983) found that women tended not to define nonphallic rape (for example, digital penetration) as rape. These findings reveal that most women strongly resist perceiving an event which happened to them as coercive or rape, but that most of the sexual experiences of most women involve altruistic or compliant sex."

- Loving to Survive

Thinking about the extremely popular misogynistic myths that women are walking around itching for any excuse to “cry rape” and weaponize their Female Privilege to frame poor innocent men as rapists, and the myth that women actually rape men all the time and we just THINK women are victimized more often because women looove to talk about being raped whereas men are too stoic. The reality couldn’t be further from the truth - male sexual aggression is so omnipresent in women’s lives that most of us won’t admit something is rape unless it is truly extreme. How are women supposed to admit that they’ve been raped dozens or hundreds of times and can expect to be raped dozens or hundreds more times in the future? Our society sees it as normal for men to rape women in most circumstances. Male sexual violence against women is unremarkable background noise in most cultures.

That’s the true origin of the narrative that “women just want to call everything rape!!!” What they’re actually saying is “every man I know forces himself on women, and now people are trying to tell me that’s rape? But that happens constantly, everywhere I look! Rape can’t be that common, these crazy feminazis are hysterical for thinking that every guy who forces himself on women is a rapist, we can’t ALL be rapists!”

I think this is a purposeful misrepresentation of what feminists are actually talking about. Furthermore, this argument cannot simply be dumbed down to be just “clothing choices”.

Modesty culture encouraged by religion and sexual objectification encouraged by porn are both degrading to women as a class and are two sides to the same coin (the coin being patriarchy). You have to look at the effects these things have on women as a whole and not just on the individual. This is the flaw with choice feminism; every women’s individual choices can be said to be feminist because she “chose” them, without regard to where that choice actually came from.

It’s very clear from the above comic that the OP is purposefully rewriting our arguments to make it sound absurd. The act of being fully clothed from head to toe or butt naked is not what is being criticized; prostitution, porn, religion, and patriarchal oppression is what is being criticized. It’s worth criticizing and it’s worth dismantling.

Also no feminist ever thinks that clothing by itself oppresses you. Feminists think that clothes are used as a symbol of oppression because another group of people wants to control, through them, women' sexuality. An hijab by itself is just a headscarf. It's the meaning behind it that is intrinsecally misogynistic and oppressive.

Also also, I feel like it’s important to acknowledge that for all the debate and discussion, the one on the left isn’t even actually “dressed” at all… she’s completely naked, and there’s a world of difference between wearing skimpy clothes that modesty cultures would necessarily consider inappropriate and literally not wearing clothes.

The actual problem is that if the woman on the left went out into her community wearing what she was wearing she’d be assaulted or killed, and if the woman on the right went out into her own community and wasn’t wearing what she was wearing she might be assaulted or even killed for it

One of the ways in which modern liberalism goes wrong in ethics is its singular focus on consent. Don’t get me wrong, consent is always necessary is any type of relation or exchange between individuals, but it isn’t sufficient.

This is why modern liberals will see nothing wrong with bdsm, pornography, surrogacy, or cosmetic surgery. “If both parties consent, then what’s the problem?” they’ll say.

There needs to be ethical standards for how we treat other people, regardless of if individuals think they are worthy of being treated by those standards. This concept is already recognized in most legal systems. If I sign a form saying that you can kill me whenever you feel like it, you would still be culpable for murder if you followed through.

Women are the ones who lose out when this concept is not applied. We have been conditioned to believe that we are not worthy of being treated right, so we allow others to take advantage of us. Consent being by the only moral consideration people care about takes advantage of this fact.

If you tell someone you self harm, it’s considered a harmful behaviour. Does it matter if you did it with your own consent? Nope. But you don’t see the same consideration extended to kink. Somehow, the same harmful behaviour is alright as long as a different person is doing it to you?

I have come across quite a few cases where the sub says they had a self harm problem which their dom helped “kick” by essentially doing the harm themselves. When confronted about this double standard, they come up with some justification about how the “sane” in the “Safe Sane and Consensual” is defined differently for each person (red flag).

Any action that is done to someone you love or trust must be able to be replicated upon oneself without it being harmful. For example, it’s a good thing to treat yourself to a nice dinner, or brush your own hair, or buy yourself things you want and need, etc). But to what extent can you go about doing BDSM acts to yourself before it is classified as self harm?

But when it’s men doing backbreaking labor in exploitative and dangerous working conditions suddenly they’re Marxist philosophers who understand exactly how wrong it is.

It couldn’t be clearer that women being exploited and harmed is something they’re perfectly fine with

So why *can't* we have a word for, "adult human female?" Seems like a significant group with lots in common (and lots to talk about.) And why can't that word be "woman?"

The biggest threat to male supremacy is class consciousness among women. If they let us out of their sight for a second, we might realize how much insidious bullshit men put us through all our lives, and how we can rely on each other instead of depending on them. No way to label ourselves cohesively = no female solidarity. It's absolutely by design.

Yeah I agriee it's useing the same old sexist bullshit to keep women apart and not realizing how many of us have the same problem. Because if we actually get together and rid ourselves of going round in circles trying to defend ourselves we start building sepratist spaces. Men can't have women see what we can build when we work together and stop handing over everything good about ourselves to men.

“If we dont give men what they want then they’ll turn on women politically.”

Yes we know that’s why it’s important to not date or become financially attached to them in any way

The funniest thing about all these TERF wars is that one day a white man with a British accent is just going to repeat verbatim what radical feminists have been saying about trans advoacy for the past 10 years and it's going to click for tens of millions of left-wing people. It will happen suddenly and very quickly. All of sudden people will start repeating what "TERFS" have been saying but pretending it's a new revelation.

“Wow professor jakey just gets it… why didn’t those awful harpies ever explain it the way he does? It makes so much sense now… They obviously didn’t try hard enough to make it accessible for us. Their arguments were too hysterical, they just didn’t have any of the rigorous academic background to give them credibility like professor jakey does”

Abortion rights winning even in red states, American women talking about the 4B movement, record sales of self-defense products geared toward women. Rage rage rage I’m begging y’all, join the movement join the fight join the fun. Come on female class consciousness I believe in you I know we can do it

I feel like the way ai is currently being used is one of the various things that completely shatters the incel argument that every woman on earth wakes up hoping they get an opportunity to falsely accuse a man of sexual assault or abuse.

If that were actually true we would have thousand upon thousands if not millions of cases of women using ai to try and frame men for crimes they didn’t commit. but we don’t have that.

but you know what we do have? thousands upon thousands if not millions of men using ai to sexually harass women and little girls.

endless cases of deep fake porn and I've yet to see one case of deep fake rape accusation

I saw a discussion where men were talking about how AI is scary, NOT because of how men are using it now, but because it MIGHT end up with false accusations.

Why are British teenage girls so unhappy? Here’s the answer (Caitlin Moran, The Times, Sep 13 2024)

"The report, by the Children’s Society, found that British 15-year-old girls are the most unhappy in Europe.

British girls aged 10-15 are “significantly less happy” with their life, appearance, family and school than the average boy — and their happiness is still declining.

Boys’ life satisfaction, meanwhile, remains broadly stable. (…)

But I still didn’t have an “aha!” moment about why this so disproportionately affects girls until… I talked to some teenage girls.

It was at a party, and I went to vape with them on the patio. Because I take my nicotine like children do.

“Duh — it’s the boys,” one said when I brought it up, as all the others agreed.

“The boys?” I asked.

My last book, What About Men?, had been all about how much boys struggle these days: their loneliness; their suicide rates. I’d spent the past year feeling very sympathetic towards boys.

“Yeah, well, who do you think they’re taking out their unhappiness on? It’s us,” another girl said.

“One boy at school used to draw a picture every day of how ugly I was,” a third girl said. “Every day for two years.”

“They’ve all got ‘Rate The Girls’ polls on their WhatsApps,” the first said. “They mark you down for weight gain, haircuts, what you say.”

“But then, if you’re hot, it’s just as bad, in a different way, because they’ll be talking about how they want to f*** you.”

The girls discussed coping techniques. Bad news: none of them worked.

“The only way you can stop them is if you become ‘one of the boys’ and hang out with them. But then,” the second girl said with a sigh, “all the other girls call you a slut. Because you’ve gone over to the boys’ side.”

“Surely it’s not all the boys?” I said. “There must be some nice boys?”

“Oh, yeah,” one girl said. “But they keep their heads down. Because… well, look.”

She showed me the Instagram account of her friend. Under every picture she posted of herself — smiling in a new dress; with her dog — dozens of anonymous accounts had replied with the most rank abuse.

“Fat.” “Slut.” “You gonna try and kill yourself again, for attention?”

“They’re all boys from her school,” she said. “And look, this one boy tried to defend her.”

I saw a series of messages from a brave teenage boy, posting things like, “You’re all big men, leaving these replies under anonymous accounts.”

As I could see, this boy immediately became a target too. Mainly accusations that he was “white knighting” this girl: “You wanna f*** her, bro?”

“So,” I asked, “you don’t think it’s social media pressure to be beautiful, or the economy, that’s making girls so sad?”

“Well, yeah, them too,” the first girl said. “But, Monday-Friday, 9-3, I’m not on social media. I’m not… in the economy. I’m just with these boys. And no one talks about how horrible they are.”

I thought about another recent report, showing a 30 per cent ideological gap between Gen Z men, who are increasingly conservative, and Gen Z women, who are increasingly progressive.

I thought about Andrew Tate, who has nine million mostly young male followers — and faces human trafficking charges, which he denies.

And I thought: maybe these girls are on to something. Maybe more people need to vape with teenage girls and ask them for the school gossip."

Bit embarrassing she wrote an entire book about boys and got it published before this occurred to her. Good point, embarrassingly late, good point.

It was bad enough when I was in school during 2006-2013, that was when social media was just beginning and hardly anyone had a smartphone or personal laptop unless they were rich. I feel so awful for teenage girls now.

Interesting how they were clearly spelling it out but she was still like; "Um well how about we blame it on social media? The economy is really bad also! Surely it could be the economy?".

We’ve all heard about what happened in Afghanistan, where women have lost all their human rights, but something else has come to light. You see men from all over the world expressing that they wish this could happen everywhere. I’m saying this because I want women to see the bigger problem here. Men worldwide are unhappy that women are independent. They would love to see women silenced, to strip away our rights. That’s what many men want, and it’s visible everywhere. I see it on Twitter and TikTok. The number of men out there who want the worst for women, who hate the idea of women working, who despise women’s independence, who believe women should belong to them is crazy. That’s why we, as women, have to be more careful, more awake, more focused, and conscious. It’s a very dangerous time for us now. As women become more independent and knowledgeable, men want to fight us and any progress made.

I am telling you all this, always, that moids will treat women as bad as they can get away with, always. Those "good ones" and "civilised" men wish they could take away our rights and mutilate our bodies, and are tirelessly working on taking away our rights to make this happen.

There's no difference, the colour of the scrote doesn't matter. They all hate us.

men are so bold all of a sudden. gleefully posting generalized rape threats on twitter. harassing left wing and liberal women with “your body, my choice.” even liberal men are turning around and blaming women for being “too mean” to men and boys who are turning to the right. it’s absolutely chilling to think that any man i see when i leave the house could think and feel this way. they literally don’t even see us as human. they delight in our misery. they want to terrorize and hurt us. i try so hard to be reasonable but i want them all dead. i’m so serious.

If this doesn’t convince women that all men put on a front, nothing will. They are bold now because they know their misogyny is empowered, and everyone, even women themselves, have worked very hard to disempower women.

Every man will do anything and everything he thinks he can get away with.

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Nothing says “pro-life” more than leaving an 18 year-old to die of sepsis!!!!

And remember, ladies: men will pass laws to medically torture you and kill you, and then keep voting for those politicians, but the real tragedy here is that you’re not doing enough to make men feel less lonely uwu

She wasn’t even seeking an abortion, she had just had a baby shower. And THREE emergency rooms turned her away??? With blood on her thighs and her lips turning blue?

We are living in such a deeply broken society