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GRRM is both extremely straightforward, and often very predictable. The whole “subverting expectations” thing was marketing for the show more than anything from the actual book. Daenerys has a vision of the Red Wedding a book before it happens, virtually the entirety of AGoT was telling the audience that Ned is gonna die at the end of the book, etc.

GRRM’s subversions are more about playing against audience expectations that come from genre conventions by doing things like choosing realistic consequences over plot armor, not just weighing down the narrative with deliberate misdirects or red herrings. GRRM’s thesis behind why Daenerys is the chosen one and why it is subversive is stated verbatim by Maester Aemon. “No one ever looked for a girl”. She’s hidden in plain sight narratively by the patriarchal constraints of the culture of Westeros, and also meta-textually, because despite it being spelled out for the audience, people just don’t want to believe it, their misogyny is too entrenched.

Genre conventions vs "unbalancing/shocking the audience"; the latter a misunderstanding and distortion of the first as "audience's expectations" itself could be built from their experience of certain genre conventions. Which includes a male hero saving the entire world. But "audience's expectations" is also so vague and encompassing a phrase that it could and has also come to mean those expectations denying breadcrumbs and foreshadowing when it serves to maintain those "expectations" of a male hero/utter destruction of dragons/power dependent on or exclusive to women's agency. Or/and, it could and has been taken to mean "delightfully shocking audience's for the sheer thrill".

la-pheacienne writes about such stuff HERE.

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I wish asoiaf fandom could tell the difference between subverting a trope and subverting expectations because it is not the same thing. While subverting a trope is a valid and very interesting approach, subverting expectations most of the time results in bad, incoherent and actually pretty conventional storytelling because it primarily aims at eliciting emotions of shock/horror/pain instead of constructing a meaningful, original narrative with solid and thought provoking themes. You don't actually need to subvert the readers' expectations in order to subvert a trope. You don't even need plot twists to subvert a trope. These are really not the same thing at all.

Example: Dany being TPTWP instead of Rhaegar is a subverted trope. The fact that the knights actually suck and the only one who actually thinks and behaves like an ideal knight cannot be one and will never be accepted as one is also a subverted trope. fAegon, the Prince Who Surived, being a scam is also a subverted trope. The element of subverting expectations is weak in most of these, nonexistent in some of these.

Dany becoming mad, Rhaegar being revealed as a machiavellian pedophile, Jon becoming one of the Others and being killed by Arya, the prophecy being just a scam of the universe and/or Rhaegar's wet dream instead of, ahm, the only solution in the war for the dawn, all these are not subversions of any trope. These are plot twists. These subvert the reader's very valid expectations and not in a good way. They go directly against themes, characterization and narrative that has been established for the past 30 years.

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