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Anonymous asked:

" What ended the actual war was Rhaenyra and Aegon's deaths" and I think this is how HOTD will end, and if we are lucky with Aegon III being king to show the public that somehow rhaenyra won.

ryan loves to talk about nuances but delivers something totally different

Anon talks about this post.

Yeah, this seems the most likely one, but who knows, maybe Condal will work out of spite (since I know he [or whatever team he's giving instructions to] loves to stoke out fandoms or review them for the tea so he can attmept to stop burning when he tries to brew some stuff).

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Anonymous asked:

I always thought it was funny to say that the marriage between Aegon and Jaehaera "ended the dance", but didn't it? the war may be over but the aegon council still had to deal with problems? with the consequences, and with the future consequences

horizon-verizon answered:

What ended the actual war was Rhaenyra and Aegon's deaths. The history and the story of the Dance, which includes its immediate consequences, does not end with their deaths.

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This really isn't correct tho, the war did end with the marriage of Jaehaera and Aegon iii, the conflicts and power grabs of the regents continuing doesn't mean the war itself was still continuing, the whole point of that marriage was to compromise, you had team black happy with rhaenyras son as King and you had the greens happy with the male heir and their kings daughter marrying that heir so his blood would be on the throne (obviously it didn't really end up like that)

There is a reason corlys kept insisting on marrying Jaehaera and Aegon iii together, and why he kept saying "it is the only way"

The marriage between Jaehaera and Aegon iii was also important for his claim as King, The marriage helped to heal divisions within the family by combining them and it helped with the lords of Westeros who were still in support of the greens/blacks, by Aegon iii marrying the daughter of Aegon II it also strengthened Aegon III's claim by tying him to both lines of succession, one through his mother and now through his wife. The marriage made it harder for others to dispute his claim and allowed him to inherit a united claim to the throne.

Its also why Aegon iii was only officially crowned King AFTER his marriage to Jaehaera as this marriage was important to his legitimacy

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I mentioned the preventative measures HERE. You were correct to say him marrying Jaehaera enabled him to be safer about holding his throne or at least staying alive. However, these passages also come from a chapter that is "Under the Regents -- The Hooded Hand"...not any chapter titled "The Dying of the Dragons", which Gyldayn wrote as the for the actual event/conflict b/t Aegon and Rhaenyra instead of "Dance". "The Hooded Hand" chapter even comes after another chapter called "Aftermath -- The Hour of the Wolf". After. When they meant an end to the Dance, once more, they meant "through this way, we prevent any more bloody strife or new things at court happening...to plunge the realm into another war." Not the same war.

The green cause was always about male lines AND male rulers above the female line...Jaehaera was female...they would not be pressing for her to be queen regnant, just her son. Aegon may have come from a woman, but Aegon III was going to be king at some point regardless because he was trueborn, male, older, able-bodied, came from Rhaenyra and Viserys as the named heir--there is no practice, precedent, or prior example of someone having a claim through a spouse and not a parent or a grandparent...that's not how things work in Westeros, even if it worked in 18th century Russia--, he was more-or-less able-brained, AND the blacks had more active supporters. Who were the party who was actually the ones willing to fight after Rhaenyra's death...there was no like united body or parties likewise for the greens.

I mentioned in that ask that:

That and the greens, like Unwin Peake, could use Jaehaera to have her marry one of their own (yes this is hypocritical, what else is new?) and then they'd have another Targaryen line to use against Aegon and his line. So the idea was to prevent all that by combining the lines into one.

The anon was correct to point out the importance of the military advantage of the blacks; Jaehaera's possible users didn't really stand a chance--what Corlys wanted to prevent was what he said in the black council's first meeting: to prevent ruining the lands and just more violence into a new phase of violence. This doesn't make it the same war.

Daeron II and the Targs for a long while had a rival branch/line--the Blackfyres--go after the crown intermittedly for years...that didn't stop or invalidate Daeron's general "claim" before the Blackfyres were finally expunged. This was not about Aegon III's "legal" claim to become king. He "inherited" a "claim" as soon as he was born. Because he is a royal princeling, he always had that claim just as any of Jaehaerys' daughters do even though they were female. You use "strengthen a claim" and "has a claim" mean exactly the same but they aren't. For a person's "claim" to be invalid or impossible, another's claim has to customarily supersede that person's. Jaehaera's claim and any of her possible kids with another house have less "legal" or customary claim than Aegon III, all bc she was female.

They also already blamed the war more on women having authority, no one would not have allowed Jaehaera become a Queen regnant. She had no chance as her herself, but as a propagator, sure. You did mention "and their kings daughter marrying that heir so his blood would be on the throne (obviously it didn't really end up like that)", but I wanted to clarify the meanings here.

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Anonymous asked:

What ended the actual war was Rhaenyra and Aegon's deaths. The history and the story of the Dance, which includes its immediate consequences, does not end with their deaths.

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Anonymous asked:

Just because HOTD might not show what happens after the dance doesn't mean it will end Aegon and Jaehaera's marriage? Because some important things happen after that?

and btw, I remember a podcast with Condal where he says he has more or less an idea of how HOTD will end but that it's complicated because he can end with something but there's always what comes after, it's never an end point

Ending the series with Aegon and Jaehaera's wedding (which I highly doubt) is not an end point, because whether or not other things come together after

A) He really should think of how this show is supposed to end or have a strong choice so he can orient the entire show around said end...this is another indication of how/why the show is as weirdly written and outright badly-written it is. He just doesn't seem to know or take confidence in what he's writing and directing the writing of and partly bec he insists on treating it like a marketing project. He writes towards what people like and what will get them to watch instead of writing a story.

B) I'm not sure why I or the audience has to feel like this ignorance of an end will be like is copacetic thing, esp when it's not supposed to be a long prequel show. And I know very well that it could not end with a marriage or wedding at all; people are speculating precisely bec this guy doesn't know his onw ending AND the show has been a cacophony of bad decisions that have befuddled audiences in whether its inconsistencies of plot and character and whole events were intentionla for later plot twists, "complexity", or just bad writing.

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Anonymous asked:

"jaehaera deserved to live" well… elia's children, aegon and rhaenys too who btw were killed in a more horrible way than jaehaera, but I don't see all this commotion for them or all this crying because they wish george had left them alive, that just proves how it's NOT about "innocent children being killed"

Well, there has been "crying" about Rhaenys and Aegon. For years. You are right there hasn't really been a movement (what else can I call this? idk) for a character to not get killed on the basis of not wanting a child to die when they do die in the orig series for a narrative purpose.

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History does not repeat, it rhymes. He married one for duty and one for love

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Anonymous asked:

Pregnancy and childbirth is traumatic/dangerous even when you’re a neurotypical adult, I can’t imagine what it would entail for a child like Jaehaera who has no family and the mind of a traumatized four year old.

Rhaenyra went through a three day labor and a violent stillbirth. Aemma lost five children: a baby who died in its cradle, two stillbirths, and two miscarriages. Laena was so desperate to fly Vhagar only to die once she escaped her bed. Now imagine Jaehaera having to experience that level of pain, fear, and desperation. It wouldn’t be a stretch to think that it would shatter her mind completely and irrevocably.

It’s pretty obvious who the narrative wants us to blame for her eventual death. But part of me has always been intrigued by the thought that she did, in fact, commit suicide. It’s rare but unfortunately not unheard of for children that young. And since Gyldayn throws in that offhand remark that she might have done it over (ugh...) jealousy that Baela would have a child before her...

It does make me wonder if Jaehaera finally realized that she would be expected to get pregnant sooner rather than later, and by the cousin her grandmother is constantly telling her is evil and needs to be murdered. I’d believe that as a motive for suicide of a traumatized and likely developmentally.

It's not an impossibility and it's a good thought. I only wonder how well or how it'd ever occur to her that she'd be getting pregnant or even know what pregnancy is ("anymore", if 3-4 yr old her even was around Helaena when Helaena was pregnant with Maelor) since we may surmise that young noble girls weren't told about sex as young as Jaehaera was at the end of the Dance. Which was 9-10 (dead at 10). So I have some doubts about her being able to process the scope and depth of her being pregnant to develop that fear; but i do think that if she killed herself, the impetus would be about Aegon and having to relive all that about their parents.

I don't think that she would have done it in jealousy over Baela; that's either Gyldayn being gross/sexist or he's talking about a different sort of jealousy while still being sexist. Because she seemed, to me, too occupied.

Having to think about children who do kil themselves was not in my plans; this is horrible. I already think of adult suicide as one of the most tragic things on earth because of the amount of pain one has to be in that must be so hard to get to...to imagine a child in that amount of pain that they have even less capacity to hold or ride through? No.

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Anonymous asked:

That’s the worse of it. Forcing them on each other. Jaehaera and Aegon III are not just opposing sides on a war. Aegon’s father had her twin brother’s head chopped off in front her. Jaehaera’s father had Aegon’s mother devoured by a dragon in front of him. Their father’s forced them to witness horrific tragedies in their lives. The idea that they would find comfort in each other and move past their trauma together is the most insane thing I’ve ever read. How could you feel anything but hate and bitterness and resentment for the child of the man that did that to you ?

That's the worst that you can fell; the best is bitter revulsion, I think.

But no, it's all "two sad kids at the end of a terrible, sad conflict, joined together to end the misery and death"....who's to say that there wouldn't have been more death within the royal family itself, if Jaehaera had been forced or pushed into motherhood/childbirth?

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spirographes asked:

they will really have a crisis if jaehaera dies in maelor's place right?

I see all this certainty and hope that jaehaera will emerge with daenaera (which in itself is already very problematic) but they don't even think about the possibility of jaehaera emerging with maelor

I'm just watching, and I think the fall will be big for TG stans

@spirographes

Maybe. I think that it's possible many have the faith that Ryan will end the show with Jaehaera and Aegon's marriage/wedding like the Blu Ray episode for the Dance. Jaehaera dying so they can preserve the Bitterbridge episode and keep Daeron relevant after the Honeywine event/before Tumbleton and Bitterbridge.

btw, The Blu Ray episode of the Dance doesn't have The Hour of the Wolf/Cregan Stark's Hand period...which canonically occurred before Aegon and Jaehaera marry. The Blu Ray also doesn't have the Caltrops, Hugh the Hammer/Ulf's betrayals or Alyn Velaryons' heroism either. If that's not enough to pose this Blu Ray rendition of the Dance and its aftermath as irrelevant, esp when GRRM completed his official and final historical record or telling of the Dance and its aftermath in F&B.

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Anonymous asked:

Jaehaera was never needed to unite the Black and Green factions. Aegon III himself united the Blacks and the Greens. He was the Blacks desired king for being Rhaenyra’s son and he was the Greens desired king through male primogeniture and being the only male Targaryen left. The factions are already united behind him and the Blacks actually crushed the Greens militarily, so their wishes can prevail.

Well, no the Green faction/supporters wanted a male who claims his right through the "male line", or through another man; that form of "male primogeniture".

Aegon II had a claim through Viserys. Aegon III had one through Rhaenyra, even though Rhaenyra herself had one through Viserys as well. This sort of thinking is what got Rhaenys and Laenor both downvoted in the GC of 101: that Rhaenys was a woman and her son could only have a claim through her and not a man. '

That and the greens, like Unwin Peake, could use Jaehaera to have her marry one of their own (yes this is hypocritical, what else is new?) and then they'd have another Targaryen line to use against Aegon and his line. So the idea was to prevent all that by combining the lines into one.

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Anonymous asked:

I don't particularly care about jaehaera, she's so irrelevant I don't even think about the girl but these TG stans make me grateful she died because they are ridiculous, every day crying about the potential they lost, the most interesting story they lost etc etc

Every time they use the word "interesting" when they really mean "I don't like being proven wrong" or "I actually hate GRRM's thoughts", know that your head will hurt for the next few minutes.

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Anonymous asked:

First it was the "marriage between Jaehaera and Aegon would have been more interesting" (casually ignoring Jaehaera's canon 'condition') and now it's the 'Blackfyre Rebellion would be more interesting' - if Jaehaera was the mother of Daena, she would have to be insane to name her son after Daemon - the man who hired B&C - that is futher proof Jaehaera was never her mother. The greens tried to claim 'Daeron' was named after Daeron the Daring - why would Aegon III name his son after his war criminal uncle? He is named after Daenaera's father.

Greens have this problem where they refuse to actually engage with the text, "the dance is about a brother and sister having to fight", but why do they have to fight? What was the reason? Did they not read the Green Council - all of their claims are based on misogyny. A lot of greens are mad that Ryan & Sara didn't show Aegon has a 'claim' - they did. But if they adapted the green council as it was... sure, he has a claim that is only based on misogyny - great for him & for the greens that support him.

I've even seen some claim they are feminists - which is laughable, how can you claim you are a feminist & then deny that the Dance is about misogyny & not understand the message? Lol. TG is a mess.

if Jaehaera was the mother of Daena, she would have to be insane to name her son after Daemon - the man who hired B&C - that is futher proof Jaehaera was never her mother. The greens tried to claim 'Daeron' was named after Daeron the Daring - why would Aegon III name his son after his war criminal uncle? [the guy who was staunchly part of the side that would eventually murder his mother in front of his 10 yr old eyes]

Yep.

Greens have this problem where they refuse to actually engage with the text

Absolutely.

A lot of greens are mad that Ryan & Sara didn't show Aegon has a 'claim' - they did. But if they adapted the green council as it was... sure, he has a claim that is only based on misogyny - great for him & for the greens that support him.

But you see, "we must obey the law of the land"...the same land that has 15-year old child bride Alicent marry a seemingly over30 yr old!? Thought that Alicent's child-brideness was the defining reason for why she "deserved" to see her kids safe and sound from their sister "having" to kill them off to secure herself? Or that child brides was an absolute, horrible state? So we do support misogyny and sexual violence against women, even Alicent's?

Plus, the bk even still had Alicent having to use intimidation and cajoling to persuade the council members into crowning/stealing the crown for Aegon...much more than what show!Alicent was doing, who just kept saying that "it was what Viserys wanted" and "we can't kill Rhaenyra!" you'd think they'd want their fav/poor forever 15 to develop into an astute manipulator, to show some political prowess and persuasion ability, but noooo. they simply wish to avoid the blatant misogyny they already believe in so they can claim she's just helplessly trying to do "what's best".

how can you claim you are a feminist & then deny that the Dance is about misogyny & not understand the message

Well, they've been claiming they were feminists even while supporting how Alicent's been changed and bashing both book and show Rhaenyra for being "spoiled", "a NLOG", and "not doing her duty" or "using her class above teenage, child bride Alicent and taking advantage of her privilege to do whatever she wants without thinking hos it would affect Alicent and her kids' safety" since episode 1/2 of the 1st season. So...yeah.

You can check out my blog's tagged posts of "perfect victim post" "tradwives" "tradcaths" "alicent stans" "Rhaenyra vs alicent" and "rhaenicent" for more if you like.

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Anonymous asked:

Greencels are beefing with the author, simple as that.

First, they decided to support the villains of the story and began pretending that they aren’t THAT bad and that the Dance isn’t about misogyny. Then, they got offended because the author karma-ed even the innocent relatives of the villains because the villains actually are THAT bad, so now they have to sniff copium 24/7.

Greencels are not very bright. Anyway, fuck Jaehaera.

Pffft. That's exactly what it is. I shall not be saying "fuck Jaehaera", though; I get no satisfaction from that. She doesn't matter to me, not enough.

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Anonymous asked:

TG love to go back and forth on this.

They’ll scream that bloodlines don’t matter but then beg for Jaehaera to be the mother of Aegon’s children.

They’ll say it’s because of not wanting another child to suffer…so let’s also have Joffrey live too ? But they don’t want that because suffering of children isn’t something they actually care about. They just don’t want to be sore losers and supporters of a dead and irrelevant line.

Bloodlines don’t matter except when they hold onto the very delusional House Whent theory.

Bloodlines don’t matter except when they blame GRRM for being biased by making the Green line extinct.

They’re all insanely misogynistic, Aegon II gets to gruesomely murder Rhaenyra in front of her son, he gets to be recognized as the official king, but he should also have descendants who sat on the Iron Throne ?? No fucking way.

In lieu of this post.

And there you have it, it's pretty simple.

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Anonymous asked:

Sorry, but I really have to say it, I can’t take it anymore.

A lot of anons you’ve been getting and answering are so incredibly annoying and disingenuous. It’s not a you problem, it’s those weird people. Aside from the fact that they clearly did not read the pov chapters of the characters they hate, they also tie themselves into tight knots because of theories not rooted in canon. Drawing half-assed parallels between characters that don’t have anything in common, coming up with baseless theories and then foaming at the mouth about them as if they’ve been confirmed by George himself. This is weird. Obsessive, even.

While disheartening, it’s understandable when people start hating characters because of said character’s annoying and vocal fans. But let’s not pretend that just because you can come up with theories where you villainise a character or other to justify your weird hatred that it somehow makes sense.

And to be clear, I’m not saying you can’t have absolute favourites, that you can’t be ride of die for a character. You can even ignore any other pov but the one of your fav. I have my favourites as well, it’s normal. But how can you talk stupid shit about a character that you don’t care to read about? You call the antis of your favourite “brainless”, but you act just like them towards other characters and their fans. This is called hypocrisy, btw, and you’re contributing to the disease in this fandom just as much as them.

Truly, I don’t want to be rude or whatever, and this is not meant as an attack to you personally. I’ve just seen like 5 of those insane anons in the asoiaf tag and I had to say something. I hope I did not somehow hurt you, though, tumblr user horizon-verizon, that was not my intention. I wish you a very good day.

Since I don't know exactly which "antis of Dany" you're saying I'm acting like, I don't know if I can take this ask's points to heart, anon. I was under the impression that I've been fair to Jon Snow, Helaena, Alicent, Catelyn, any of these characters that you could be saying that I am not very fair towards; the last Jon snow post (at least my own answer) was about him not being TPTWP...bc he isn't. It's quite obvious in-text. If that anon who said that he was boring offended you and you were offended that I didn't say that they were being too extreme, I can't really help you there. I still said in that post that Jon was important...just not in the way some people try to say. And yes, i still read his PoV chapters, I have said that I just tend to read Dany's and reread them more often. Not that I never read him, that's a gross exaggeration.

Jon Snow is not and never will be Azor Ahai. And never was/never will be TPTWP. This is fact, not "opinion". It's not about "favorites", it's about reading the books and understanding patterns of thoughts and references and reading mythologies and seeing patterns of human behavior within the text. And this isn't "extremism", it is simply reading the books. (As if I ever tried to tail Dany antis in the first place?)

If not about Jon and about how I refute TG's numerous and various points about Jaehaera or Helaena or Alicent, do you expect me to agree with their factually incorrect statements? you know that some even think Jaehaera was supposed to be Azor Ahai or GRRM means to invalidate his entire years worth of writing Daenaera to be mother to Aegon III's kids, right? Am I supposed to say nothing to these egregious absurdities?

All to say that since you still remain vague about what exactly your point is coming from and which character(s) you think I'm being grossly unfair to, I can't really take your points under any advisement. It certainly makes it look like I don't bring up material to back up my claims for all my thoughts about ASoIaF and its fandom, which is certainly not the case. You may look under my "example of green stan nonsense" to see what people say from their own posts.

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Anonymous asked:

TG stans actually use HOTD as a hope to rewrite history lol

I've lost count of how many discussions I've had about "wanting jaehaera alive because it would make the blackfyre rebellion more interesting" like..... hello? Do you guys want to change the story that Martin created? Do you guys think the headcanons you create are better than the author's fucking book?

Again, "interesting" doesn't mean intellectually layered, but "it would make me feel better/the greens were right/the greens at least got something bc the Dance wasn't that much about patriarchal violence against women, children, etc. even outside of war bc it was really most about stupid nobles ruining people's lives and totally unconnected to Daenerys' arc as a rising queen to juxtapose the Targs/Westerosi historical denial of female rulership/power/authority".

So, yes, they do think that. Genuinely.

The Blackfyre Rebellion has been interesting to fandom for years before HotD and before that BluRay episode of the Dance both in how it relates to Dany and the main series AND for the characters involved in that conflrict: Daemon Blackfyre, Bloodraven, Shiera Seastar, Bittersteel, Myriah Martell, the second Daenerys, Daeron II, Aegon IV, Naerys, and Aemond the Dragonknight, even Queen/Princess Daena, who was the child of Daenaera and Aegon III. no green influence or connection to be found! this really, is waht grinds their gears, that Jaehaera's marriage to Aegon didn't bring about true peace for the realm nor propagated any current or important Targs for Westerosi history. What they want is the bragging rights, that is what is "interesting".

I mean, there have been metas about Daemon Blackfyre, Daeron II, and Bloodraven in terms of possible ableism, racism/xenophobia, bastard stigma, and definition of monarchial masculinity having been the impetus behind the 1st Blackfyre Rebellion!:

Bloodraven

Daeron II

Daemon Blackfyre and the Blackfyre Faction

And there have been fanarts for every single one of these characters or scenes of important events pre-. during, post the first rebellion

Obviously people have been loving this section of Westerosi history, and it never depended on whether or not Jaehaera lived.

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Anonymous asked:

If jaehaera's marriage to aegon is this whole "nobody won in the war" theme, Why did george kill jaehaera then? why he didn't leave her alive for her and aegon continue the broken house targaryen? why he killed her and gave aegon a velaryon wife and the two continue the broken Targaryen house?

this narrative that TG created about what dance is does not exist, It was never about two houses coming together in the end bullshit

TG clings to the BluRay episode of the Dance that ends with Jaehaera and Aegon marrying...Shireen's/her actress' narration, however, says point blank that their marriage ended the DANCE. Not the plots and ambitions of the lords surrounding the couple, primarily Unwin Peake, who more than likely was the one to have Jaehaera killed so that he can push his own daughter, Myrielle, to become Aegon's second wife in the Maiden's Ball. The Maiden's Ball events and Aegon's regency BOTH weren't mentioned in those Blu Ray epsiode because that episode focused ONLY on the Dance/the WAR's end and beginning and middle. Not the stuff afterward. MOST DAMNNGLY, The Blu Ray episode of the Dance doesn't have The Hour of the Wolf/Cregan Stark's Hand period...which canonically occurred before Aegon and Jaehaera marry. If that's not enough to pose this Blu Ray rendition of the Dance and its aftermath as irrelevant, esp when GRRM completed his telling of the Dance and its aftermath in F&B , then people are lying to themselves. Or stupid.

A Clash of Kings (published in 1998) mentions that THREE Velaryon women/girls married into the Targ house and "gave" the house princelings or heirs/children (Davos I):

* this doesn't count* - [I'm just adding this for the record] Vaelaena Velaryon (mother of the Conquerors -- wife of Lord Aerion Targaryen)
Alyssa Velaryon (mother of Rhaena the BB, Alysanne, and Jaehaerys I, plus others who died young -- wife of Aenys I; even mother to Jocelyn Baratheon, the mother of Princess Rhaenys, rider of Meleys and mother of Laena and Laenor Velaryon, grandmother to Baela/Rhaena Targaryen)
Laena Velaryon (mother of Ladies Baela and Rhaena of Pentos - Daemon Targaryen)
Daenaera Velaryon (mother of Daena, Elaena, Rhaena the Septa, Daeron I, Baelor I -- 2nd wife of Aegon III; thus Daenaera is the grandmother of Daemon Blackfyre)

Meanwhile, the BluRay episode of the Dance was published 2016. Let's put an end to this nonsense.

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