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What I Liked About HotD Season 1

I already expounded on why I despise this show's storytelling, costumes, basic writing quality, portrayals and use of the Velaryons, and misogyny against Alicent, Laena, Rhaenys, and Rhaneyra. And I am sure there will be more with the 2nd season definitely coming.

Now for what I like:

  1. the dragons and their visual diversity
  2. Rhaenyra's investiture outfit from head to toe
  3. Alicent's hair (both Young and Older)
  4. Daemon's episodes 3, 4, & 5 hair
  5. most of the hair on the noble female extras
  6. Rhaenys' hair accessories
  7. Matt Smith: his acting, his performance, AND his complete understanding of canon Daemon; he's my favorite of the cast, but all the actors really carry this show w/their performances
  8. Rhaenyra and Daemon's dynamic and chemistry all before the last episode
  9. Harwin Strong/Ryan Corr are both zaddy (not my fav character, male or female, but he is very attractive to me and has been since his smile at bloody Rhaenyra)
  10. speaking of, Rhaenyra killing the boar and the white stag scenes
  11. making Baela and Rhaena part of the fight/scene where Aemond's confronted after claiming Vhagar
  12. most of episodes 4 and 7: most of Rhaenyra w/Daemon in Flea Bottom and their steamy encounter; all of Alicent and Rhaenyra's confrontation; Alicent and Rhaenyra's fight over their sons' fight; Corlys' support for the V boys, esp Lucerys. It played genuine and seemed like he actually cared for this kid. It's also canon compliant; the obviousness of Rhaenys' love for her grandkids
  13. Rhaenyra shutting Otto down in the selection of guardsmen for her and her father
  14. episode 2-Rhaenyra on her dragon Syrax *[Corrected mistake on which episode]
  15. *the Velaryons, anyone in a high aristocratic position, being black (but this one's conflicting for me) and being crucial figures to the story and its protagonist
  16. all the times Alicent, being canon compliant, showed snark (episodes 6 & 7)
  17. Alicent's scene w/Dyana -- showed, rather than told, the deal with her, her priorities, her relationship w/Aegon, and Aegon's own character in what I thought was very blunt about how Aegon's protection from accountability and Alicent's own hypocrisies
  18. the self-determination & fierceness of Younger Rhaenyra (that could/should have still logically carried over to Older Rhaenyra as in canon) AND still showed insecurity like when talking to Rhaenys about the lords and to Alicent during their confrontation
  19. *Vaemond's death (sort of, parts of it)
  20. the cinematography of Aemond's chasing Lucerys and Lucerys' death
  • Alicent's hair net & pregnancy dress of episode 3

  • her red dress later in episode 4, confronting Rhaenyra

  • *specification note of recent post* "snarky" Alicent: the times she stopped Rhaenyra from probably getting the council to tkae her plans for the Stepstones seriously by pointing out her leaking breasts; comment to Laenor abt his kids looking like him---but not her at council at all (bc it actually doesn't make sense)
  • having Larys kill Harwin & Lyonel -- > makes the most sense out of the speculations for how they died

Yeah, all of the first post, too, still, months later. Will I be tuned in for season 2? Maybe, and maybe after 3 or 4 episodes have passed & not through the usual channels.

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What I Liked About HotD Season 1

I already expounded on why I despise this show's storytelling, costumes, basic writing quality, portrayals and use of the Velaryons, and misogyny against Alicent, Laena, Rhaenys, and Rhaneyra. And I am sure there will be more with the 2nd season definitely coming.

Now for what I like:

  1. the dragons and their visual diversity
  2. Rhaenyra's investiture outfit from head to toe
  3. Alicent's hair (both Young and Older)
  4. Daemon's episodes 3, 4, & 5 hair
  5. most of the hair on the noble female extras
  6. Rhaenys' hair accessories
  7. Matt Smith: his acting, his performance, AND his complete understanding of canon Daemon; he's my favorite of the cast, but all the actors really carry this show w/their performances
  8. Rhaenyra and Daemon's dynamic and chemistry all before the last episode
  9. Harwin Strong/Ryan Corr are both zaddy (not my fav character, male or female, but he is very attractive to me and has been since his smile at bloody Rhaenyra)
  10. speaking of, Rhaenyra killing the boar and the white stag scenes
  11. making Baela and Rhaena part of the fight/scene where Aemond's confronted after claiming Vhagar
  12. most of episodes 4 and 7: most of Rhaenyra w/Daemon in Flea Bottom and their steamy encounter; all of Alicent and Rhaenyra's confrontation; Alicent and Rhaenyra's fight over their sons' fight; Corlys' support for the V boys, esp Lucerys. It played genuine and seemed like he actually cared for this kid. It's also canon compliant; the obviousness of Rhaenys' love for her grandkids
  13. Rhaenyra shutting Otto down in the selection of guardsmen for her and her father
  14. episode 2-Rhaenyra on her dragon Syrax *[Corrected mistake on which episode]
  15. *the Velaryons, anyone in a high aristocratic position, being black (but this one's conflicting for me) and being crucial figures to the story and its protagonist
  16. all the times Alicent, being canon compliant, showed snark (episodes 6 & 7)
  17. Alicent's scene w/Dyana -- showed, rather than told, the deal with her, her priorities, her relationship w/Aegon, and Aegon's own character in what I thought was very blunt about how Aegon's protection from accountability and Alicent's own hypocrisies
  18. the self-determination & fierceness of Younger Rhaenyra (that could/should have still logically carried over to Older Rhaenyra as in canon) AND still showed insecurity like when talking to Rhaenys about the lords and to Alicent during their confrontation
  19. *Vaemond's death (sort of, parts of it)
  20. the cinematography of Aemond's chasing Lucerys and Lucerys' death
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🔗LINK to Seth Abramson’s Retrostack Review of HotD (Season 1) and Ryan Condal’s Writing

*Just so I no longer have to travel to Reddit for this link*

🔗 LINK to the Variety Article referenced

🔗 LINK (original); 🔗 LINK (uploaded on Tumblr by me) to Retrostack Article which Ambramson says: “RETRO covered the concerning season finale here, raising a serious and potentially Season 2–impacting narrative framing error that didn’t seem to be part of the major media response to the season finale elsewhere” explaining his tying Condal’s writing and direction to events in America.

Originally got this review/article from thedracarysqueen HERE, who got it from this Reddit Post

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The show gives Rhaenyra's characteristic nervous habit of playing with her rings to Alicent in having Alicent shows her nerves through picking her fingers' skin, sans rings. But Rhaenyra/Emma D'Arcy, has no obvious outward expression of anxiety, whilst Young Alicent/Emilia Carey does (but not Olivia Cooke? where is the consistency?).

They gave Rhaenyra's canonical black/red dress reveal-and-entry to Alicent in her green-dress moment of episode 5. Rhaenyra's entry in canon is: her declaring political opposition to the already formed green faction; autonomous monarchial claim against Alicent and Otto's attempts to lessen the legitimacy of that; where she draws that claim from (the colors representing her house, her blood connection, and Viserys choosing her); AND her defying Alicent's domestic attempts at ruining her self esteem or disconnect her from her roots. It was her first real moment of triumph. Whereas canonically Alicent is one of Rhaenyra's antagonists; Alicent was the one who independently and intentionally used female chastity (a principle of sexual repression for women) against Rhaenyra to tarnish her reputation and public image in order to raise dissent against her and her prospective reign. And make her son seem even more desirable...which didn't work, as she continues and eventually has to imprison people to make way for herself and Aegon the Elder.

Second, not only does what HotD did steal most of Rhaenyra's agency and boldness to give to their diluted version of Alicent and incorrectly center her as if she were the protagonist of this story, it makes Alicent, of all people, the one who experiences the a central problem of this story: societal misogyny. It removes Alicent's accountability and suggests that Rhaenyra is the problem. That whatever Show!Alicent perceives Rhaenyra to have done (lied to her, didn't stay "chaste" like her by sleeping with a person outside of marriage, didn't recognize her queenly authority how she thinks she should...when all that actually matters is Viserys' word AND it is actually Otto who put her in the position she is in to fear absolutely knowing what that portion entails [as he thinks]), that is the wrong being done here....when it is really Show!Otto's ambition.

Some may say, after watching this show, that Rhaenyra should have observed her friend's anxiety as she was "talking" with Viserys...but Rhaenyra 1) lost her mother just a few months (presumably) earlier 2) is just coming into her heir duties and activities, one of which was her choosing her personal guard in the various candidates Otto tries to present to her, and we see in that particular point that she also had to come up against people doubting her, questioning her...why? because she is both young and female. It does not require much imagination to figure out that Rhaenyra was going through her own stuff that justifiably draws her attention away from Alicent, who could have also told her what was going on but didn't. 3) By principle, Rhaenyra was also developing her own life and growing into her own adulthood -- making a life for herself.

Where would she have the emotional bandwidth to catch everything going on with her friend in the face of all mentioned?! In relationships, we take turns to support the other. Rhaenyra is the one with less room to do something since her fears, duties, grief, loneliness, and prerogative to live all are present and probably emotionally overwhelming, understandably making her less aware of others when the are not either the focus or means to accomplishing those ends of monarchial duties or alleviating misery. Alicent is fully aware of what's happening and knows that it would hurt Rhaenyra' emotional and political position even worse to follow through without resistance...yet chooses not to tell her and maybe thinks of ways to resist, even with Rhaenyra.

And again, even that ambition is being denied to Alicent herself, who canonically drives much of the green cause by attacking Rhaenyra since the latter was 10 before the war begins until her grand moment of calling the green council.

Thirdly, all of these changes...just to ultimately create confusion in narrative direction and switch/reduce the philosophical and political priorities (are we against misogyny or against others having what we want but deny ourselves because we actually like the patriarchy that has actually victimized us?). We have fallen from criticizing how women with internalized misogyny target other women to gain whatever power a patriarchy seems to bestow them to what HotD gives us -- a woman not being rewarded by being "good" and compliant with the patriarchy, as if compliance is the answer to escape the suffering caused by the oppressve forces one is told to comply with and obey! So the message is that we should always follow and conform with unjust social hierarchies?!

The fourth problem with what HotD did is that in the writers' probable justification of not giving Rhaenyra her dress moment because viewers should already know that red and black are her families colors and that they will deduce that the blacks' name come from that, they reduced all of what I point out the moment meant in canon to it being "obvious" why the blacks are called the blacks.

Fifthly, the Hightowers' colors are not even green. If anything it would be silver or grey! And the firelight the Hightower tower basis the usual red, orange, and yellow in real life and in their sigil. So not only did they remove Rhaenyra's agency-practicing moment, they moved away from the fact that Alicent chose green independently as her own faction and cause' color. She was staking a claim herself, for herself! And as @mononijikayu says in the linked reblogs, green-as-the-color-Alicent-chooses thematically works to show how her own envy, greed, ambition, and tyranny subsequently has her lose all of her children and die alone and delirious. Similar to how Jaehaerys I's tyranny and misogyny against his own family causes him to be completely alone the day he died, as Saera was his only living relative aside from Viserys, Daemon, and Aemma Arryn, who all did not seem to care about the man one way or another nor were raised close to him.

The show refused to give Mysaria and Daemon his and Mysaria's grief over their baby's loss and a justification of anger against Viserys other than not being made his Hand, but it will very likely give Aemond an arc of passion with Alys Rivers and a pregnancy partially to mimic the "children having children" arc they gave to Alicent and partially to facilitate the idea of him making mistake after mistake from him maybe choosing "fuck duty", or just running from it (Ryan Condal's "theory of reactions and accidents") as this other user contemplates. Meanwhile, Mysaria and Daemon were always in a consensual relationship even if he was definitely exploiting her being in SW....and Alys was Aemond's war prize and sex slave, so there was no consent there--to all the shippers of the latter. (And if she did have visions, and she told Aemond that he should meet Daemon and where to find him....it is also very possible that she saw Aemond die....such a situation leads me to believe that this was not the sunshine and roses relationship many green stans like to think.) [8/30/23] AND the show cheapens Daemon's contention with Viserys after his habitation in Dragonstone to his just fucking around to fuck around, as this Twitter user named Branwyn the Half-witch says:

Mysaria’s pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage (which hardened Daemon’s heart against his brother) to Daemon just messing around for no reason. It removes any sympathetic or human motive Daemon has for his rebelliousness, and ditto for Mysaria.

Yes, Daemon loves his chaos to a degree…but that is to a degree and circumstantial. Viserys definitely committed wrongs against Dameon, which motivates Daemon to "act out" or ignore/defy him. Plus, as hamliet explains, there is a pattern of Mysaria being concerned or affected by the loss of children from her own loss of a child by Viserys forcing Daemon to abandon her. As a sex worker, she's not "allowed" to grow a family or obtain some sort of self-sustenance outside of the exploitative sex industry embedded within this patriarchal system. Thus, it is likely she targeted Nettles, arranged for Blood & Cheese to kill either Aegon or one of his kids, & gave away the information about Maelor to Heleana (triggering Helaena to kill herself) to strike back against any Targ...perhaps. [check out hamliet's breakdown of Mysaria's motivations for doing all she did after being exiled HERE] NUANCE!

The show made it much easier to see Rhaenyra as the aggressor against Criston....meanwhile it's too arguable that even as young as Rhaenyra was at the time (15), she'd ever go for Criston when you read the account (in order: HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE). That it was most likely Criston who wanted Rhaenyra and she rejected him while he tried something. It is especially important to note this part of the text I didn't include that is between the last two quotes I do give:

However it happened, whether the princess scorned the knight or he her, from that day forward the love that Ser Criston Cole had formerly borne for Rhaenyra Targaryen turned to loathing and disdain, and the man who had hitherto been the princess’s constant companion and champion became the most bitter of her foes.

Thus relying more on Mushroom's (the arguably most unreliable narrator and source for the events pre and during and post-Dance -- those who will try to make anything sexual and exaggerate just to self-aggrandize and attention) account of how Rhaenyra and Criston fell out......sure.

It refused to insert or to imagine any of Aegon and Aemond's pre-Dance misogyny towards Rhaenyra (an example) that would have existed following Alicent teaching them all how to view her. Or any of his pre-Dance viciousness: "Two years later, she produced a daughter for the king, Helaena; in 110 AC, she bore him a second son, Aemond, who was said to be half the size of his elder brother, but twice as fierce ("A Question of Succession"). Aemond's probable bullying of the V boys made into Aegon, his own brother, being one of his bullies despite this quote and its emphasis that no matter what Viserys tried, all five boys couldn't get along and that the green boys resented the V boys for taking what they thought was theirs.

But sure, we get Show!Daemon obviously kill his wife with a rock -- not even an assassin -- despite the fact that he was at the Stepstones, still fighting and preoccupied, when Rhea died and it took a few more days after the nine it took for her to die for him to even be notified of her death and travel to the Vale AND what we know about horses (reblogs of @the-king-andthe-lionheart's post....forgot to credit and tag). The same woman who would have, if she had been able to sit up and talk, immediately name foul play with her canon dislike of Daemon.

As I mentioned before above, this show even removes Alicent's biggest and game-changing, plot-driving, self-determined act to convene the green council while purposefully leaving Viserys' body to rot over to the council members acting under Otto and ignoring her until she has to yell at them, and even that is ignored as we see her wrestle against Otto to bring Aegon in. Instead of them working together to do so, illustrating further how a woman can work with patriarchal authorities and use the power the system allows her to block another woman. The most memorable thing adult Show!Alicent did was to gives her feet over to Larys to drool over in a very disturbing voyeuristic scene, just so she gets information...this show is even more misogynist and unrealistic towards Alicent than the book/the maesters could ever be, for the sake of making Alicent a victim instead of a woman who decided to use power for power's sake. Because apparently that's an anomaly or a sexist take...that women could hurt themselves, their children, the children of others, and other women who arguably are in similar sociopolitical positions for power.

And because they aged Alicent down, her kids are all supposed to be aged down, so that in itself can and has drawn more sympathy (whether intentional or not) for the greens for what will happen in the next season to them. And I mean for locals who've never read the book or just its account of the Dance.

While we get no other scenes of how Alicent and Rhaenyra even interacted and how their relationship became nothing (ignore Alicent of episodes 8-9, this is such a terrible switch up because it makes no psychological sense) during the time between the 6th and 7th episode, how Alicent would have a isolated, victimized, antagonized, and pressured Rhaenyra as we saw her do at the 6th episode's council. Because, apparently, these women can still theoretically become friends again even after all of this AND Lucerys' and Visenya's deaths?

But then you can't tell a good or fair story about a feudal family, about "generational conflict"...without showing how two of those generations....fought each other at home AND then at war.

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Ryan Condal: House of the Dragon is a family drama.

Also Ryan Condal: *rushes all the family drama into one disgustly, atrociously bad paced season to get to the spectacle*

People keep saying that S1 was the “prologue” but in my opinion it’s the equivalent of rushing all of ASOIAF into a season or two just to get to the battle with the Other’s.  The show is obviously not shy of changing things around or completely, so they had options if they wanted to have some action while prolonging things to a proper pace, such as they could have built up the conflict with the Stepstones all season and ended the season with that, and then had the end of S2 be the death of Lucerys and the start of the Dance.  I know they wanted to get to the older actors but the show could have found a way.  Hell, they could have just done flashbacks or something.  One of my biggest fears about S1 was that the show wouldn’t have time to make us care about the characters, and guess what?  I was right.  They rushed everything into mediocrity and inconsistency. 

Their stupid flashback-phobia is one of the reasons why their pacing is shit. They act as if GRRM didn't use flashbacks, he uses flashbacks all the time. It was D&D who were two stupid hacks that didn't want to use flashbacks. But of course, Condal is the 'expert' on GRRM's works. Okay, where the fuck are the flashbacks like GRRM has?

Things like that are extremely important and GOT cut so many important things because of that. Instead of learning from D&D's mistakes it seems that this ignorant, hack of a writer never thought they were thought they were wrong in the first place.

And whatever they wanted to 'get' to the older actors is funny. Because the younger actors got the better paced episodes and the older writers got fast paced monstrosities with their best scenes cut. The only older actors that they didn't shat on were Paddy and Olivia.

Too true.  The first 5 episodes with the younger actors were really well paced considering the small time jumps they were doing.  I didn’t agree with every decision, but it was a hell of a lot better than what we got in the last 5 episodes.  Like don’t get me wrong, I do think there were some things the show should have done instead or shouldn’t have done, but minus the whole thing with them making up Daemon killing Rhea, these issues were small fry compared to the issues in the later episodes.  It’s almost as if they put in a thousand times more effort in the first five episodes than they did in the last five episodes.  Out of my favorite episodes of the season, only one of those episodes are in the later half of the season, and that episode is 1x08.  Other than that my favorites were 1x01, 1x03, and 1x04.

Yeah, what HOTD has made clear is that Condal, Hess, and HBO don’t actually understand why people hated the last seasons of GOT so much, so either they aren’t improving these issues, or they are overly course correcting.  It’s like they saw the backlash of GOT making the two most powerful women in the series bad/mad, so now they are making the two most powerful women in HOTD perpetual victims, making everything the mans fault, and I feel like that is just as bad, and just as sexist.  Then they see that people didn’t like that GOT had a lack of diversity, and that in S8 D&D were overly racist when they killed off one of the only two black characters on the show, and then turned the other black character bad by siding with “mad queen Dany”.  So what do they do?  They make the Velaryon’s black.  And this was an excellent choice, I loved the idea, especially in a visual medium depicting almost nothing but blonde haired white people.  So making the Velaryon’s black would help differentiate the characters.  However, in stead of the show exploring their backstories, and actually making the Velaryon’s as important in the story as they should be, they don’t even have Corlys in every episode.  Then they cut so much of Laena’s story that it’s honestly offensive especially considering they hired three different actresses to play her.  And then in the end they had her self-immolate because heaven forbid they depict a woman dying in childbed surrounded by the people she loved.  And then they silenced Baela and Rhaena and made it look like their own father hated/didn’t care about them.  Like can anyone so far even distinguish Baela and Rhaena when it comes to personality so far?  No.  And they’ve been present in 4 episodes.  That’s just bad.  And it better be something they correct in S2 onwards, and they better give them their book personalities since we know so much about their actual personalities.  It would be ridiculous to change them.  But considering how neglectful they’ve been towards the Velaryon’s as a whole, it does make me think there is racism of some sort involved there.

And not only that, but people hated the later seasons of GOT because of it’s fast pace, inconsistent characters, and reliance on shock value at the expense of good and logical storytelling, and has HOTD rectified this?  No.  Not at all.  We can see this with the flip-flopping characterization of characters like Alicent.  And we saw this with the illogical dragonpit scene with Rhaenys.

All in all, I hope they rectify a lot of this in S2, but considering what they’ve already done, and the attitudes of Condal and Hess, and their sheer obsession with Alicent and Rhaenyra’s non-existent relationship and making them perpetual victims at the mercy of men, it doesn’t seem likely.  

I have to say that I do like several things about the show, but at the same time there are so many things that I don’t like or agree with them for doing as well.  I guess at this point I have a love/hate relationship with HOTD.

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