This is just a short note I will expand on elsewhere, but GRRM has this somewhat infamous quote about LOTR, about what to do with the orcs after the story ends. This is about rulership—what happens after the conquest?

Part of what I love to death about ASOIAF is that it seems fundamentally more interested in these questions than the excitement of the conquest itself.

I see this quote brought up about the Others every once in a while, but I also think that we might be seeing one iteration of this idea with Dany in Meereen and the children of the slavers:

There are obvious differences—for a start, humans have the potential to grow up to be anything, rather than the known entity of the inherent evil when it comes to orcs.

In an ASOIAF-relevant context, though, the question is similar: you won, do you eradicate your enemies? Their remaining families? What if it looks like a direct path to peace for those you were fighting for? “What good is peace if it must be purchased with the blood of little children?”

Considering that slavery is some of the clearest evil we’ve seen in the books thus far, I think this is one way GRRM is be bringing his thoughts on fantasy rulership to a more human context in ASOIAF.

The issue of letting the children live (or not) also makes for another very interesting parallel between Dany and Robert Baratheon, who is another key figure in ASOIAF’s exploration for how one rules after the battle has been won. Barristan makes the connection nearly explicitly for the reader, standing up for Ned’s name:

Robert was faced with the same choice and, over the course of his reign, has been given two different takes, one to start his reign and one at the end of it. Robert’s peace was bought with the blood of Rhaegar’s children, the young Aegon and Rhaenys, delivered—albeit unsolicited—by the Lannisters, to cement Robert’s legitimacy and their own stake in his rule. At the end of his reign, Robert is faced with the premise of a new Targaryen baby being born and Ned offers an contrary opinion much like Dany’s own (in spirit if not in allegiance):

There’s plenty more to be said, but I just want to point out this angle for interpreting the GRRM LOTR quote. For one, sometimes people take issue with how literally GRRM himself is enacting his criticisms (saying things like, 'we never see Robert's tax policy either')—but this is a great example of how GRRM can raise a criticism that fits for a different series and make it work within his own world by adjusting the circumstances.

Also, I think that for discussions that attempt to predict where the story will go from here based on comments like this from GRRM, it’s important to see where GRRM is already exploring these ideas. In ASOIAF, this sort of application doesn’t require this idea to be explored with some kind of similarly-undying evil like the orcs or like Sauron, GRRM is applying these ideas to much more human evils, like slavery, and much more human applications, like any kind of military victory.

The Orcs of LotR seem to be persistently evil and naturally evil beings. There is no possibility of a "redemption" or any other narrative use for them aside form being perennial antagonists who must be subdued for peace and order. ASoIaF has questions about what to do with selfish but not exactly mwa-hah-ha evil humans and actually evil humans who participate or beneficiaries of exploitative, abusive systems (talking about Westerosi feudalism). The question of how to deal with the conquered families is relevant to Aegon I and the Westerosi lords after his and his sister's conquest. A clear parallel to Dany and what makes her/him like him/her.

Either way, GRRM is trying to explore how people try to remain or become better leaders or actors in a world designed towards exploitation of human bodies, whether its through slavery or feudal patriarchy.

It's always " Dany needs to sacrifice her powerful and monstrous dragons if she wants to live in a peaceful world" and it's never " The Stark have to also sacrifice their powerful and monstrous direwolves in order to live in a peaceful world".

Guess what? We are in a fantasy book. Magical beings ( dragons, direwolves, mammoths, Skagos' unicorns) should all continue to exist. It's not like these animals are starting wars in Westeros. Humans are the ones who disturb the peace not these magical animals.

every time someone says “““dany was just handed her dragons”” another bunch of my brain cells die

dany was handed three fucking rocks.

she got her dragons through fire and blood and ritual sacrifice and by walking into a blazing funeral pyre which could have burnt her into a crisp, but didn’t because she got the secret that her family’s tried to figure out for decades to no avail but tragedy

#you know who was handed their beasts the starks were handed their direwolves #but it’s not used to devalue their achievements because it is a stupid argument

I think the reason why the dire wolves aren’t mentioned is because the achievements of the Starks aren’t completely predicated on their ownership of dire wolves. Robb could’ve won the Battle of the Whispering Wood without Grey Wind being there, but without the dragons… Dany’s entire ACoK story after she leaves the Red Waste is off the table, she can’t steal the Unsullied army (and thus, no conquering, and thus her ADWD story is off the table), and it’d be basically unreworkable in a way the Stark story without dire wolves would not be. The direwolves are important to the Starks’ stories, but dragons are indispensable to Dany’s story.

While I agree with you that the dragons are an integral part of Dany’s story, I still disagree with the claim by the anti part of the fandom that Daenerys is nothing without them.

Would her story have been different without them? Most definitely, yes. But I still think she would have been able to get herself into a position of power without them.

Back in AGOT, Dany and Viserys didn’t have dragons and yet, Viserys was able to make a loose agreement with Drogo about exchanging Daenerys’ hand in marriage for an army. Dany still had her Targaryen name and that means something to people.

She could have wed again - not another Khal, obviously, but some powerful magister or other in Essos or a lordling in Westeros…or even fAegon. There was still the pact signed by Darry in exchange for Dorne’s allegiance… Dany had options and lots of them. She just didn’t need to use them because she had the dragons.

Would Robb have been named KITN had he not been Ned Stark’s son? Or Jon? No, absolutely not. Would anyone want to wed or offer help to Sansa if her last name was not Stark? Most definitely, NO.

Also, Dany’s story isn’t just about fighting wars and taking lands, like Robb’s is. Yes, yes, his war is “noble” because he’s fighting for his country’s independence and to get revenge on the Lannisters for what they did to Ned, whatever whatever.

But Dany’s path has always been about helping others along with trying to get back home. It’s a much bigger and frankly, more important narrative. She’s not just trying to take back her family’s throne. She’s trying to save hundreds of thousands of people from slavery. It takes more than a name and some cool moves with a sword to do that.

Also, we’re still leaving out the fact that, even without the dragons, Dany is magic. Yes, in the books her “fireproofness” works in a different way… but it still works at key moments - when she was hatching the dragons AND in the fighting pit in Meereen - Dany’s hair burns off again and she burns her hands but she is otherwise unharmed by the flames. When she gets to Vaes Dothrak, I’m willing to bet the book scene will go relatively the same as it went in the show - Dany burning all the Khals and emerging from the flames unharmed with the rest of the Dothraki bowing for her - a crucial Dany moment done without a single dragon present.

And aside from the magic and the name, Dany is a fucking amazing military commander and she’s cunning. Robb won the battle at the Whispering Wood yes, but Dany took a whole fucking city with only a dozen men lost on her end. THAT’S FUCKING IMPRESSIVE. And that absolutely wouldn’t have been possible had Dany not been clever enough to come up with the plan that got Yunkai to surrender. She did that. By herself. Without her counselors and commanders helping her plan it. She’s a badass.

So this whole argument that Dany’s story would be nothing without her dragons…is still…utter bullshit. The dragons just make everything way cooler.

Without the dragons, she probably would’ve died in the Red Waste. Without those dragons, she wouldn’t have gotten into Qarth, let alone stealing an army in Astapor.  All the military skill isn’t worth a damn if you don’t have an army, which Dany got by… offering a dragon.

Yes, if she had managed to get back to Pentos… she might’ve been able to scrounge something else up. But that’s a pretty big if, and whatever it was, it definitely wouldn’t be carving out a huge kingdom for herself. It’d be as a pawn of Illyrio’s, which is specifically why she doesn’t go back as soon as the option presented itself in the first place.

@citadelofoldtown please see @winelover1989‘s comments about GRRM originally not planning to include dragons in the story at all…and back then was when he had his five key characters, of which Dany was one. He would have had a plan in place for her without the dragons.

Also, if you remember, Dany only went through the red waste because she had dragons. She wouldn’t have gone through it if she didn’t. She was afraid they would run into a people who would try to kill them for the dragons…their existence presented a threat to Dany. Without the dragons, Dany could easily have disguised herself so she wouldn’t have been such a target and to travel more easily.

Again, Dany still has her name and her own wits without the dragons. Viserys obtained an army of 40k with nothing more than the promise of Dany’s hand (he just wasn’t patient enough). Dany could have easily accomplished the same feat because Illyrio, regardless of his trustworthiness, still favored putting a Targaryen on the Iron Throne and Dany was the last of them. fAegon would have come along, she could have married him and had the allegiance of the Golden Company, which, with the 7K still torn up over the War of the Five Kings, would have been enough for her to take the throne.

Again, to reduce Dany’s accomplishments to “it’s because she has dragons” is ridiculous. No one ever reduces Robb or Jon’s accomplishments to “He’s Ned Stark’s son” or “it’s only because Jon has a Valyrian steel sword”.

I don’t understand what’s this constant need to diminish Dany’s accomplishments, it’s become almost pathological in certain sectors of the fandom. 

As others, have already mentioned, while the dragons are certainly an important part of Dany’s narrative they aren’t driving the narrative. The dragons are there, first, as a symbolic representation of Daenerys heritage and her inner-self, and second, as a tool to assist Dany, at times, to accomplish her goals.

The driving force in Dany’s story is Dany herself. Her ability to accomplish her goals using the tools she has at hand is what makes her such a successful character. I forgot who mentions it but someone notes that had Viserys had the dragon eggs, he could never have accomplished what Dany has been able to accomplish.

It is with her intelligence that she is able to decipher her prophetic dreams and create the magic necessary to hatch the dragon eggs. It is her bravery that gives her the strength to walk into the pyre. It is her fortitude that keeps her small khalasar together as they cross the Red Waste and might I remind everyone that she was only 14 years old at the time and grown men were depending on her for guidance.

It is her cunning that allows her to hatch the plan in Astapor to trick Kraznys and free the slaves of Astapor, Drogon was just a tool, she could have used another.

The dragons were not used in Yunkai and they were not used in Meereen. Here we see Dany’s military and strategic mind flourish.

It’s ridiculous to ascribe the successes Dany has accomplished merely to the fact that she has dragons.

A reminder that also; at that time the Dragons were Catsized, unable to feed themselves and bareley able to fly.

Not useful to take any city, in the purest practical sense they were rather a liability for a long time.

When she was marching to Astapor and Yunkai the dragons were indeed scary but bareley bigger than a golden retriever; again useless to a degree. The unsullied, taking Mereen, Yunkai, Astapor…it was all her, her wit, her strategy, her persuasiveness.

The Dragons didn’t become an advantage until A Dance of Dragons or season 5 of the Show, when they became large enough that she could ride them.

That time in the pit when Drogon rescued her became the first time the Dragons were useful, it was the first time the Dragons pulled her out of a situation like the antis claimed they did all the time.

The battle of mereen was the first time they prooved useful in battle.

Before they were simply too small.

The same can’t be said about the Direwolves thought.

And Drogon saving Dany in Daznak’s Pit is a show only scene. In the books, it’s Dany that saves everyone by taming Drogon.

And the thing is that everyone has some kind of advantage. Like, this argument that “Daenerys wouldn’t have gotten an army if she didn’t have a dragon to offer and therefore that makes her nothing” is a bullshit argument. Because literally every person has something that if you took away from them, they wouldn’t have what they have. Would Robb have an army if he didn’t have his family name? Would Jon be the commander of the Night’s Watch if he wasn’t Ned’s son? Would Sansa have anything if it weren’t for her beauty and Stark name? No, the Starks wouldn’t be where they are if you took those things away from them. And yet, I don’t see people calling them “nothing” without them. And why not? Because people still recognize that the Starks have their talents. But they refuse to recognize the same for Dany.

Because when you call someone “nothing”, what you actually mean is that this person has no talents, is worth nothing and that everything this person has in life is due to that one thing. This is what people are saying when they say Dany is nothing without her dragons. They mean that Dany has not merit in anything she has accomplished, that it was everything she has is solely because she has dragons.

And this is wrong. Having dragons alone isn’t what made Dany accomplish what she has now. Without Dany’s intelligence, without Dany’s brilliant battle plans, without Dany’s competent leadership, without Dany’s courage and wisdom, she wouldn’t be where she is. The dragons wouldn’t have made her accomplish anything if she didn’t have all of those other talents. Daenerys is much more than her dragons.

Also, funny how nobody talks about all the times the direwolves helped the Starks accomplish things. Bran would be dead without Summer. Jon would have been killed by the wildlings if Summer hadn’t saved his life. Jon was feared by the wildlings because of Ghost. Nymeria protected Arya from Joffrey. Grey Wind found a goat track that was responsible for one of Robb’s military victories (and that isn’t even counting the advantage that a direwolf’s protection during all of your battles gives you, and also the boost of morale that is to have such an animal at your side). The direwolves are also indispensable to the Stark’s stories. Without the direwolves, many of them would be dead. And yet, I don’t see people using this to dismiss the accomplishments of the Starks the way I see people trying to dismiss Dany’s accomplishments, even though Dany almost never uses her dragons. They didn’t help her in the Red Waste, they were only a bargaining chip in Astapor, and Dany didn’t use them at all to conquer Yunkai and Meereen. In ADWD, Dany also doesn’t use her dragons. The only time she is saved by them is in ACOK, in the House of the Undying, but Jon and Bran are also saved by their direwolves and people don’t call them “nothing” because of this.

In the end, people just want to dismiss Dany’s accomplishments, dismiss her strength and intelligence, and reduce her to just some dumb girl who got lucky to have dragons, which is completely incorrect.

Bran would probably be dead after the fall from tower , both Jon & Robb have been helped by their direwolves countless times . Literally there are only 2 Starks that accomplish things without direwolves and those are Sansa and Arya . And even Sansa had she not been a Stark she would probably end up like Jeyne Pool and Arya wouldn’t be able to escape if she wasn’t trained by Sirio ( and she only got trained by him BECAUSE she was a nobleman’s daughter and her father could afford that ) Stannis on books won at least two times without battle - and had it been a battle both of the times he probably wouldn’t have enough armies to attack king’s landing - using Melisadra’s magic but no one say’s he’s nothing without Melisadra . Obviously that doesn’t dismiss anyone’s accomplishments but that’s the thing : all characters have been helped in some way because of their name or magic ( or magic animals ) And dragons ( just like characters last names ) are a double edge sword : they do cause Danny plenty of troubles too , they aren’t some magical deus ex machina whatever fans like it or not . They had cause Daenerys as many problems as they’ve been help

#this x character would be nothing without their powers / money / status / privilege#also a lot of you cream your panties at the thought of Jon or Tyrion or anyone else getting dragons#and yet you hate Daenerys for having them#also I’ve been seen the argument#be done for male characters#like Batman or superman#but surprisingly it is made for female characters#so yeah mysogyny much ? (tags by @gothamsharls)

As at the end of ADWD, the dragons have not meant much, in military terms, in any case.

Dany defenders: point out that Dany’s story could have continued without dragons because she still had her Targaryen name and could have leveraged that to make an alliance by marriage

Dany antis: Totally forget that Robb never would have been able to get to the Battle at Whispering Wood/the rest of the war had he not made a marriage alliance with Walder Frey for passage through the Twins.

Antis like to make this whole thing about “the dragons” but the truth is, all of the characters mentioned have something of value that’s not just a plucky personality. 

And Dany wouldn’t have been “just a pawn” had she made an alliance and gained an army through marriage. After Viserys died, she was the fucking HEIR. Anyone she would have married would have been her consort. Hell, she had a betrothal all lined up with Quentyn that would have gained her the Dornish army. THAT’S power. And it’s the same kind of power all the Starks have/are capable of as well. She wouldn’t have had the same saving slaves storyline, but she would have eventually made it back to Westeros to fight for the throne. 

Which is one of the reasons why I think the dragons are in her story, because Dany was destined for more than fighting for an ugly old chair. She needed that extra bit of magic to try and rid her world of its most vile injustice. And she would have had that extra bit of magic with or without the dragons because George was originally just going to give the Targaryens some sort of firepower. Dany would have been like, a fire bender or something. But a friend of his convinced him dragons would be cooler. 

“Dragons in Asshai, dragons in Qarth, dragons in Meereen, Dothraki dragons, dragons freeing slaves…” -AFFC. The dragons have become a symbol of freedom.   

So take that antis. 

Dany's lack of a formal education and how it could have affected her in Slaver's Bay

I was having a discussion with @sharisfootly, and the topic of Dany’s education came up. We usually talk about how Dany not having a formal education impacted her rule, and how things could have gone better if she had a formal education. So the question that we asked ourselves is: how much does the lack of a formal education did impact Dany’s rule? After all, it’s not like there has ever been a successful slave revolution before from which Dany could learn from. So even if she did have a formal education, it would still not be a guarantee that things would go smoothly, because there are no examples in history that Dany could follow regarding how to end slavery.

So what could have been different? Here’s is what I think could have changed if Dany had a formal education:

1) Medieval rulers usually give or take lands from their vassals for political reasons. A vassal that betrayed his liege lord could have part of his lands and wealth taken from him as a punishment, which serves as a way to weaken them and as a warning against those who would betray their liege lord. Similarly, vassals that supported their liege lord could be granted more lands and wealth as a reward for their loyalty and services, which strengthens their loyalty to their liege lord.

So, if Dany had a formal education, this could have crossed her mind more easily. One of the things many people mention that Dany should have done in Slaver’s Bay is to take the wealth of the slave masters (to take away their economic power and leave them more powerless to resist her), take a part for herself (to pay for more sellswords and strengthen Meereenese economy), and redistribute it to the freedmen. Dany actually does some of this in the books: she takes the wealth of the families Zhak and Merreq when they decide to leave Meereen, and she takes taxes from the slaveowner families to help pay for soldiers and rebuild Meereenese economy. However, she does too little of this, and what she does is not enough to weaken her enemies as much as she needs, and to rebuild Meereen as she needs. So because she does too little, the masters still have strength to threaten Dany and force her to compromise with them.

2) Another way I think a formal education could have helped Dany is that she would have a better idea of the importance of military strength. If she had a better idea of that, she would have known that she needed to leave behind an army in Astapor and Yunkai (and remove the masters of Yunkai from power), to help protect against counterrevolution. If she had done this, then it would be less likely that the Butcher King would have overthrown her council, and less likely for the masters of Yunkai to enslave everyone again.

So a formal education might have helped Dany. However, would it have solved all of her problems? I also don’t think so:

As we can see, while there are things in which a formal education could have helped Dany, it doesn’t fix all problems. Because ending slavery is still a very complex and difficult thing with no perfect solution, and also because, as already mentioned at the beginning of this post, there are no successful historical examples from which Dany could base herself on.

Besides, I would also like to point out two things:

To conclude: the fact that Dany did all she did and had the ideas that she had despite her lack of education is really impressive. And even if she did have a formal education, this would not fix all of her problems.

Source: georgerrmartin.com

GRRM posted this on his blog Not A Blog

“My own heroes are the dreamers, those men and women who tried to make the world a better place than when they found it, whether in small ways or great ones. Some succeeded, some failed, most had mixed results… but it is the effort that’s heroic, as I see it. Win or lose, I admire those who fight the good fight.”

— George R.R. Martin

#too many people in this fandom believe that heroes can only be perfect flawless angels #who never make any mistakes #but that line of thinking doesn’t align at all with the kind of story grrm is trying to tell #according to the author himself being a hero is not determined by whether you succeed or fail in your attempts #being a hero is about being willing to fight for what’s right #failure and success are irrelevant  (via @viisenya)

“On the ADWD cover for Brazil, I put Daenerys at the top of the stairs of the meereenese pyramid. I had undoubtedly been, unconsciously, influenced by the series. And George told me that Daenerys wants equality for everyone, she wants to be at the same level as her people, so I had her climb down to keep it consistent” - Marc Simonetti

Here you can see the original one and other asoiaf art he drew

“George told me that Daenerys wants equality for everyone, she wants to be at the same level as her people.”

Louder please for the idiot antis in the back!!!!

Such a villain.

Just to clarify:

And there is a reason why this is important, because the thrones and what they symbolize is a running theme with Dany in the books. Even when it “does not befit a queen”, Dany prefers a simple bench over an fantastic throne. She doesn’t act based on what is proper and improper according to society; rather she strives for equality and simplicity. She genuinely wants equality or everyone, even when it reduces her own grandeur. Even when others think that as a queen, she should place herself above her subjects, she does NOT.

There is a reason why her thrones are brought up repeatedly in the books:

Can I also add that it’s interesting to note the size of her profile has also reduced with GRRM’s input. Previously, she appears as a large yet distant imposing figure from high on above. And with the revision, she’s brought closer to the ground and appears smaller in stature, more human and therefore more approachable.

When I started to see arguments pro-Alicent and pro-Greens, I just KNEW that some of these had to overlap with the same retoric that came from Sansa/Stark loyalist fans. Lo and behold, I see the icon profiles of these same fans, and find it’s true. While I believe there are people who genuinely like and appreciate the Greens for their complexity instead of projecting their favs from GOT, I found many on tumblr already that are, hilariously enough, also j*nsas and sansa fans. They don’t even bother to hide their hypocrisy, it’s there clear as day for everyone to see. That’s why I find it jarring their whole anti-Targ retoric when they are, at the end of the day, stanning characters that ARE TARGARYENS! Bruh, if you stan the Greens, you’re also a Targ fan, lmao

The fact that the show now has included Dany in a vision Daemon has confirming that she, not Jon, was Azor ahai/the prince that was promised is so funny bc they are still cash-cowing her for views but it also makes green stans' teeth hurt to see this happen to their precious ideas about the Targs and Dany.

GOT/ASOIAF fandom: sexism in the Google Search

It’s no secret that the GOT/ASOIAF fandom is full of misogyny. I’ve seen horrible sexist things being said in several forums about many female characters, like Arya, Catelyn, Sansa and Daenerys. I think one of the things that helps illustrate this hate against female characters is the Google Search autocomplete. The autocomplete show us what are the most searched terms in relation to a subject, and I think that it helps us understand more about what the general audience thinks (after all, it’s not just hardcore fans that use the Google Search). So I typed “CHARACTER IS”, and took a screenshot of the results. Warning: this might make you very depressed, especially if you’re a Dany fan. So read it at your own peril.

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Also people in the ASOIAF fandom don’t genuinely hate the system of monarchy and succession based on primogeniture OR claiming a throne through right by conquest. 

You guys only hate on the monarchic aspect of the systems in twoiaf when you’re hating on Dany, because in your eyes, Dany is the only one in the wrong for being a monarch and for having a claim to a throne, lol. 

Otherwise, you’d be hating every single monarch and monarchic claimaint in this series as well, and you’d hate the princes and princesses and nobles and lord/lady paramounts too. 

But you don’t, in fact you romanticize quite a few of them or their reigns or their houses. Yes, Daenerys is a monarch, which means she’s part of the feudalist system, but the OVERWHELMING majority of the characters in the series who play a role in its plot are privileged under the system or even outright monarchs themselves. Holding that against Dany and only Dany is fucking ridiculous.

Not to mention that any time someone points out that Dany is actively changing oppressive systems, people say “BUT SHE’S A MONARCH!!11″ okay, and? Robb Stark was also fighting to change things by actively going against Lannister supremacy. And yet he is still a monarch. Stannis Baratheon goes through character development in ASOS… and he is still a monarch! Jon Snow is the Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch and he will most likely be King in the North in TWOW/ADOS! So still a monarch! Even characters like Brienne or Arya or Arianne or Asha or Sansa are all either princesses or highborn ladies! 

If you’re going to hate Dany for wanting to change things while still being a feudalist ruler, you better be hating the other characters as well. Oh wait, you don’t do that, because it’s fucking ridiculous to uniquely hate one character for being a feudalist ruler while accepting all of the other characters with their high birth statuses and feudalist claims to ruling. 

Dany antis' "metas" about how Dany is totally naive about Westeros really shows they just haven't read the books, or at least not her chapters. They'll rant about how she expects the people to just bow down to her, when in reality that was how Viserys (and later Young Griff) thought due to Illyrio's words. Meanwhile Dany, "mistrusted Illyrio's sweet words as she mistrusted everything about Illyrio." (AGOT Daenerys I) Dany knows that it takes more than a name or even dragons to be worthy to rule. That's a major piece of what sets her apart from other rulers in ASOIAF.

Robert took the throne because he was the foremost head of the rebellion and had some Targaryen blood. Joffrey and Tommen rule(d) because of their perceived relation to Robert. Stannis laid his claim based on being Robert's brother. Renly laid his not only because of blood, but also popularity with the lords and sheer number of troops. Robb was crowned because he was his father's son.

Dany knows she how fickle allegiance owed to a name is, she knows how the lords turned on her family and saw the hospitality in Essos fade when she and Viserys had nothing. She also knows simply scaring them into following her with dragons and armies won't work, she scared the shit out of the masters in Astapor and Yunkai, yet as soon as she turned her back they went back to slaving. In Meereen, she had her armies and her titles, yet the Sons of the Harpy constantly defied her.

Dany knows the Westerosi people won't just bow to her when she arrives (though stories of her are causing quite a stir lmao), she knows she will have to fight for her throne and make alliances. She understands that she will have to prove herself to the people and lords, after all, why else would they follow her? Her Khalasar only followed her after she proved herself strong, the Unsullied followed her when she proved just (after she freed them), Barristan Selmy swore himself to her only after observing her for a long period, and the rest of the Dothraki will follow her only after she proves herself once again.

Every time Dany has lead, it's because she proved herself to be worthy following, not because she's a Targaryen or the Mother of Dragons. Why would she suddenly forget this when she gets to Westeros? Well bad writing is the answer in the show, which is why in the books, she won't just become entitled.

There's different character who already has that characteristic: Young Griff. He expects the lords of Westeros to follow him against the Lannisters and Baratheons without question and for Dany to swear herself and her dragons to him and even marry him simply because he is (supposedly) the son of Rhaegar. Young Griff is a subversion of the lost prince trope, he is not only a fake but also exhibits qualities reminiscent of Joffrey (according to Tyrion), so not exactly a great candidate for king. Yet Dany antis insist on putting the sense of entitlement on Dany while portraying "Aegon" as a true heir and worthy king that evil Dany will kill in her lust for power.

Dany antis will formulate arguments against her purely out of thin air and shitty writing. They will ignore any and all actions she has done when ruling and when talking about it, rather choosing to force their fanon ideas on her and give her true qualities to their favs instead.