*EDITED REBLOG* 11/4/23
Revisiting this Topic: Rhaegar's Actions with Lyanna and Elia
Comments in this thread to Remember:
[winelover1989] it's because cheating is something everyone has actually experienced at some point in their lives so the visceral hate comes from a more personal place compared to the other stuff that horrifies people in more of a news way
[riana-one] Because no one tries to justify what Tywin or Gregor did to Elia while every insane shipper tries to justify, explain away, or defend what Rhaegar did to his wife and children.
[riana-one] Nationally humiliating his pregnant wife. Disappearing after kicking off a major war while leaving his wife and children unprotected and in the reach of Aerys.
[aemontargaryen-bloodraven] Just a warning, Riana-one has dedicated her life to Rhaegar bashing and calling Jon, a Blackfyre for some reason. Also, she is a fan of fics that has Eddard Stark getting Lyanna drugged and forcefully marrying her to Oberyn where she and Jon are constantly abused.
[riana-one] And here we have the disconnect. Rhaegar was not the 'victim', Rhaegar started the entire bloody affair. Disappearing with the Warden of the North's daughter and leaving the diplomatic crisis in the hands of his mad father who burned people alive for dinner theater was the equivalent of throwing a burning match into a barn with all his loved ones aside. You want to reframe the argument about infidelity?
[riana-one] What is worse is leaving your vulnerable wife and children alone, abandoned, and unguarded while a war rages and your mad father can get his hands on them. Aerys regularly savaged his sister queen so badly he maids thought a wild animal attacker her. Elia and her children were in danger, the minute they were ordered to leave Dragonstone. Even leading an army of Dornishmen, Rhaegar leaves his family to Aerys. Then he dies.
[riana-one] You want to minimize Rhaegar's actions but the sad truth that the only reason Elia and her children were in a position to be harmed by Tywin Lannister and his goons because Rhaegar. If Rhaegar hadn't run off with Lyanna, none of this would have happened. If Rhaegar had stuck around to face the Starks, none of this would happen. If Rhaegar had sent his wife and children to Dorne or Essos, none of this would happen. But you want Rhaegar to be the victim.
Tracking Rhaegar's, Elia, and Lyanna's Moves Right Before the Rebellion and During It:
- 281 A.C. -- Rhaegar gives Lyanna the winter rose crown of love and beauty instead of his wife Elia (presumably, if we traece other fans' ideas, bc of many things: he admired her disguised participation as the Knight of the Laughing Tree; wanted the Starks or Baratheons to become more invested through even their outrage [this was a person's theory]; with the said crown he might have seen a vision with winter roses and Lyanna in it and decided to take that risk in that moment to trigger events he thought he needed.)
- 281-282 A.C. -- Rhaegar leaves Elia and their kids at Dragonstone "with half a dozen of his closest friends and confidants, on a journey that would ultimately lead him back to the riverlands" (TWoIaF -- the Year of the False Spring). Where they had already been living, away from Aerys, presumably bc Aerys is fucking bonkers and Rhaegar wanted to protect his family from him!
- 282 A.C. -- around Harrenhal, Rhaegar and Lyanna disappear together, triggering her father and brother to travel to KL by themselves and Brandon (brother) calls out ""come out and die.", not knowing Rhaegar is not in the city -> Aerys tortures and burns both him and his father
- (*later, c 282-283 A.C.) Aerys calls back Elia and her kids by his side with -> sometime between Rhaegar leaving and him coming back with his army, where he then speaks to Jaime about protecting the city (and presumably Elia & their kids)
- c. 283 A.C. -- Aerys King Aerys sent Ser Gerold Hightower (the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard) to retrieve Rhaegar
- 283 A.C. -- Rhaegar returns to the crownlands and takes command of the Targaryen army after Jon Connington loses in the battle of the Bells
- 283 -- Battle of the Trident -> Rhaegar dies
- 283 A.C. -- Aerys sends pregnant Rhaella and Viserys to Dragonstrone but keeps Elia and her kids with him in fear of the Martells betraying him
Current Thoughts (Which for the most part, hasn't changed)
A)
Rhaegar was dead before the Sacking of King's Landing, as the Battle of the Trident occurred before that sack. and way before that, before he met up with Lyanna, he had left Elia and their kids at Dragonstone, a place where anyone in his and her position would think they would be safe. After he did this, he traveled around with companions for a while.
It was Aerys who recalled Elia and her kids and used their lives to KL to use against his enemies and motivate Elia's uncle Doran--Prince of Dorne--to send his troops and aid him/Rhaegar just before the Battle of the Trident.
Sometime b/t the time Rhaegar left Elia at Dragonstone and when Rhaegar left with Lyanna. We still do not know what exactly Rhaegar what that conversation was like or what he was doing. He traveled around for a long seeming time before he met up with Lyanna in the riverlands.
He never anticipated, I think, that:
- the Stark lord and his heir would travel themselves to the Mad King to ask for Rhaegar's punishment instead of some kind of messenger
- Brandon Stark would be so brazen to ask for his death directly, triggering Aerys' paranoid violence and defensiveness
- Instead of at least--he was going to face the "Mad King"--not calling out his heir to die if he was determined to go to KL with his father
Thus Rhaegar did not have that much reason to suspect that Aerys would even be able to viciously kill Brandon and Rickard, demand Ned's capture from the Arryns, thus triggering them all to call their banners in self-defense & begin the war, AND THEN call Elia back from Dragonstone.
Yes, his running away with Lyanna gave the Starks the motivation to find fault and seek "compensation" from Aerys. Just on the mechanical, practical sense of our knowledge Lyanna is the object on which these men (including Robert) rely for their political alliance.
B)
It seems like the real source of some eople's issue against Rhaegar is not his political decisions or times when he eschewed the political element for the more personal side but that he specifically cheated on Elia, the cheating alone. But his cheating--instead of plotting against him and Aerys and then endangering that plot for his romance with Lyanna--became the reason for his irresponsibility making way for evildoers to successfully carry out their goals. Thus, because he does not stick to his wife and stay close to her, he loses the sympathy of some readers.
If you hated him for just the cheating, valid, since (two things that may not be mutually exclusive, but we don't know for now):
- Yes, cheating is wrong and yes Rhaegar cheating vs Elia or a woman cheating means something very different and more negative for the woman if we "reversed" it--His giving Lyanna the Crown at the tourney of Harrenhal while she was there and running off with her in any circumstance b/t her and Rhaegar does not look at all very good for Elia's reputation/her esteem in the eyes of the royal courts and other nobles, if nothing else, even if she vocally consented to any/all his extramarital affairs. Even with Elia being a Dornish noblewoman (Dornish people are less stigmatizing against illegitimate people and mistresses and extramarital sex), her being too ill/frail for sex, their marriage arranged, there being no real sign they were emotionally very very close, etc., her being physically frail while still having to passively and actively represent their kids/her own house in a nonDornish court where people would view her a bit differently, more pathetically, than they perhaps already did due to her health...It'd be harder for her to find and keep some respect in court, or a sense of power and control. Dwellordream writes this post about male vs female infidelity. However, we don't have proof of Elia feeling this way, but it is a valid conclusion to make bc of the circumstances of female vs male intimacies & allowances, the consequences towards their agency or political authority BUT this still doesn't place blame for the war nor her death solely on Rhaegar when it was Aerys' madness, the Stark father-brother, and the Lannisters who all created the setting for the war to happen in the first place, and Tywin, who gave the orders/allowed the Mountain to murder Rhaegar's family & rape Elia. It's crazy to blame the person who did not make the decisions or had final authority over others' actions. Though he
- there is a possibility that if Elia did agree for Rhaegar to have lovers while she was frail in body, it's more because she wanted to survive by not getting pregnant again AS WELL AS her acceptance of extramarital lovers being more a male privilege in that nonDornish court--Rhaegar, with her out for the count, "inevitably" going to use that privilege and her not really having the "leverage" or incentive for him to reserve sex for her alone. However, like I said above, we don't have proof or substantial evidence of this, and I tend to go with the idea, that they had a fine marriage, she was too sick or lethargic to really play court either at KL or Dragonstone, and thus felt that she could not really gainsay or care about Rhaegar's romantic pursuits outside their marriage, lowering this in her list of priorities. (more below)
No, I don't think that the "cheating" (bc we simply don't know what was discussed here between Elia & Rhaegar) was moral, but neither do I think that Rhaelys happening & running away WAS THE ONLY nor even the PRIME REASON the war happened. It definitely was the catalyst for it, but the prime and direct cause? That's exaggeration and misplacement of responsibility for the sake of pushing forward nuclear-family monogamist principles for its own sake as if that were THE only right principle of behavior and family. The deaths of the two Starks by Aerys' were not solely Rhaegar's doing as they decided to approach Aerys in that manner despite knowing his craziness AND it is their deaths+their manner+Aerys demanding the lives of Ned & Robert that makes the second trigger for the war. It made Ned and Robert able to quickly use Jon Arryn to amass armies for self-defense. Rhaegar's decision to take Lyanna contradicted his plans for usurping the evil tyrant that is his father because it created a new problem--no one forced him to decide to be with Lyanna, but as one theory states, it's also possible he went to protect Lyanna (KotLT) from Aerys, who had been searching for the Knight since the Tourney at Harrenhal. Which makes the most sense to me.
And this is coming from a person who can't do any sort of ethical non-monogamy and gets nervous at the mere mention of such in relation to how I imagine relationships for myself. I would have rather Rhaegar gotten some message out to Elia or gotten into a conversation with her about this in the year before he flew away with Lyanna--and maybe he did, we don't even know!--and they come to an understanding that Elia, in her heart of hearts, was fine with but made her own set of boundaries for her own face.
The text never once explains or indicates how Elia herself feels about Rhaegar or Lyanna, but we have people claiming that she was emotionally wracked by this? Maybe, likely upset about her reputation or shocked, but we still don't know who this woman was by personality. With no PoV chapters, even fewer direct quotes from her marriage to Rhaegar to learning of his being with Lyanna, and anyone other than her own brother giving details about her facial expressions and body language when this and that event happened-> this is all speculation using on her heritage, her position, her health, and the arrangements of the marriage itself AND our own thoughts & knowledge about marriage, relationships, court life and women in it. One also cannot claim that she was something like Cersei was/would be, feeling totally humiliated, jilted of a perfect and glorious life, hating Rhaegar, etc. Nothing in the text gives strong enough evidence of what Elia thought. even her at the tourney, all we know for sure was that she was there. No details about her expression, what she said to Rhaegar after, nothing. We get more from Rhaegar and Lyanna than we do for her, bc Ned is a witness to Lyanna's final moments as Robert was for Rhaegar and we documentation of their personalities in more detail PLUS the constant winter blue rose symbolism.
But to say that someone maybe cheating on their spouse directly caused their death because they weren't there to protect them is myopic and if or any of all the factors out of Rhaegar's direct control, where the line between personal and political is in this event of Westerosi monarchy rides and it's a condition, and finally, Rhaegar's actions to take the throne for the sake of peace and preparing against the looming threat against pretty the entire world, of which we see Daenerys' visions and Jaime's memories prove.
C)
Then there is the idea that Elia is PoC and that the "white" Rhaegar was negligent of his PoC wife in favor of a white girl. Once again, their marriage was arranged. Rhaegar did not choose Elia, nor did she independently choose him. Her mother pushed for this marriage after the blunder of Tywin suggesting she marry Elia to Tyrion rather than Jaime.
The Dornish can be PoC (some are paler [paler skin, lighter hair and eyes] than others according to region), but they are NOT PoCs in the same way PoCs of real-life modern peoples are. At all. They are more like white Mediterraneans (Spanish and Italian), who northern EUs saw with distrust in real history. GRRM confirms such on his blog in answer to a question about it.
At the same time, in-world they have customs that make them "queer" enough to be Othered and resented for being outsiders "taking" positions that some in Daeron II's court thought were their court/office positions.
Thus AND still, we see no indication that Rhaegar dismissed Elia for her Dornishness.
That model of PoC female partner negligence depends on the circumstance of the couple coming from a background where they, at one point, freely and independently chose each other and worked to love each other romantically. Where is the evidence that Elia and Rhaegar saw each other as exclusive or had a romantic bond in a more personal sense?
In this world, aristocratic marriage doesn't always =/= a partnership and the marital sex used for producing heirs is not automatically indicative of an emotional bond or understanding of limits. Even with women not having the same ability to have open lovers in marriage as their husbands and any male [dwellordream], Elia herself is Dornish and there is the possibility that she would be personally more open to Rhaegar having a side lover than a nonDornish woman. But we simply do not know bc we barely know anything about her herself except in her younger years she had an active sense of humor and is more open/feels freer to tease or speak her mind (her interest in a lord I forget the name of before he farted).
Also, race is weird in ASoIaF, as it was and is in real life and always will be because race makes no rational sense.
First, both Andals and First Men first came from Essos just as Valyrians and Rhoynish people do and Essos is an analogue for the "Orient" (Asia) but somehow the religion of the Andals (analogue of Catholicism, which modern peoples associate the origins to Europe even though it actually originated in the Mid East). This does seem to try to mirror how there were Christian Africans. And the Summer Islanders are definitely African analouges by how the Westerosi (Daella and Cersei) mimic how medieval Europeans thought of actual Africans and their skin color/reactions to seeing them for the first time in their decidedly non-Westerosi attire. They also hold Pacific Islander cultural attributes and live on islands, physically isolated from the rest of the world except other, closer Islands. And instead of the First Men being like those indigenous groups in crossing a land bridge into a human/hominid land, they are the ones to war with hominids and perform acts of cultural extinction similar to Europeans vs indigenous folk.
This actually goes to establish that the Andals and FM are white analogs, but in the medieval ages and earlier, one's skin color didn't automatically equal that you were a completely different ethnic group. That was more about religion, customs, language, and who lives under what military leader. This is why Jewish people, for a long time, were considered people of their own "race" by eugenists and 15th-century Spanish blood purist authorities who wished to "cleanse" Spain of Muslim, ME, and African Moors and Jewish Europeans. And why, still today, Jewish people aren't considered white "enough" or white at all by some eugenicists, racists, or white people.
Skin-color-linked-to-location racism didn't really come in until people needed a more physical marker of inherent difference, and even then Jewish people were marked Other through religion.
While the Martells usually have darker features by being one of the "salty" Dornish that Daeron I categorized, there are Dornish people who are as pale as a Valyrian, have light-colored eyes like other Westerosi, etc. These are the "stony" Dornish of northern Dorne. The Martells are of the darker "salty" Dornish, and all Dornish have the Seven as their religion (unless we're talking about the Green blood), the same customs, and language (again not the Green blood), all under the Martells' authority. These are all exonyms Daeron I created when he attempted to conquer Dorne, which was at first successful but later was defeated and Dorne retained its independence.
There is no solid racial hierarchy in a consolidated, central state (yet?) and not any that mirrors the modern, real Western one.
Yes, there is xenophobia towards the Dornish from non-Dornish lords, esp in the marches. However, there is no apartheid, no legal nor economic segregation against Dornish or giving some Dornish subtler legal benefits to one people over the other people based on skin or else bc Dorne is still self-sustaining with its own armies. Specifically for there to be anti-Dornish feelings from every single noble, esp a Targ other than Aerys, at court. Unless we talk about Dornish migrants into Westeros, where of course we're going to see a lot more blatant discrimination ind and socially.
Some fraction of stormlanders, Reachmen, and Dornish all lived/live in the Dornish marches as they fought with each other for resources and in revenge trips. The Marches are a section of land:
of southern Westeros in the border region north of Dorne. The marches are predominantly in the southwestern stormlands and extend east to the Sea of Dorne, although much of the western marches are within the Reach People from the region are known as marchers, and they are ruled by marcher lords.
grassland, moors, and plains, with a portion of the Red Mountains to the east. The highlands of the marches have a cold climate
The "stony" Dornish AND the Dornish marchers of the Dornish marches tend to be lighter of skin and eyes like the Stormlanders, Reachmen, and Stomlander/Reachman marchers and they have the most in common with other Dornishmen -> and yet:
Marchers and Dornishmen each consider the other to be liars to be liars, and marchers consider the Dornish accent of the Common Tongue to be incomprehensible.
It's not accurate to say that the Martells or the Dornishmen are PoCs in the exact same way that African or Arabic people are PoCs in today's sociopolitical global community in light of all that. That would be like saying the Italians, Spanish, Welsh, Irish, Scots, are all PoCs just because they fought against Anglo-Saxons for independence and because the Anglo-Saxons Othered them for it. However, the Martells at least do seem to be able to be adapted as PoC bc of the skin color, which doesn't matter as much as the refusal to bar women from power?...confusion.
The Martells have been loyal (or really non-combative and have officially become a part of the 7 kingdoms) to Rhaegar's house ever since Daeron I's marriage and to this day seek revenge not against Daenerys or any Targ but Robert and especially Tywin for their betrayal and Elia/her kids' murders. Yes, Doran, Oberyn, and Lewyn Martell all look side at Rhaegar for leaving Elia at all for Lyanna, but the Martells have always been considered to be worthy persons to ally themselves with and to marry, with no feelings about skin or such from any Targ.
Well, maybe not Aerys II, who said that his granddaughter Rhaenys "smelled Dornish", but he was the one to seek out and approve of the marriage in the first place.
....All to say that Aerys' sentiment was not as endemic or indicative of actual systematic discrimination against Dornish peoples [discriminatory laws, economic exclusion, impoverishment of ethnic groups, none of this exists in Westeros specifically towards Dornish peoples]) NOR does Rhaegar ever express anti-Dornishness. That rather was a Baratheon or other stormlanders/marchers (and not much one else) in the time of Daeron II.
D)
Rather, Elia x Rhaegar are foils of the would be Robert x Lyanna and the Robert x Cersei pairings.
I think that we have a case of people trying to push forward a principle of relationships onto a grander political platform when the relationship is really only one bar of a ladder that's been constructed for a long long time. But they want to attack the cheating by making it the material of which the ladder is made of.
Did Rhaegar know of discontent against Aerys, including Tywin? Most likely, he wasn't incapable of observation and reasoning, but even then, how would he know that Tywin was so discontented as to want to or be close to stage a coup or turn his soldiers against the Targs in their moment of need? In the text, several times, it is expressed how much of a surprise it was, everyone expected the Lannister to back the Targs all the way through. We the readers may know, they don't. Pseudo-Dramatic irony.
And while Rhaegar knew there were probably enemies and who they were, he has no way of actually knowing that the Starks would think it wise to confront Aerys alone and head on, that Aerys would kill them in such humiliating and traumatic ways, that Tywin specifically as pretty much instantaneously ready to take them all on.
And his presence at KL would have helped at least marginally, but what if he had traveled at Aerys' own behest or gone on to other duties that took him far away from KL?
Wouldn't Tywin have also taken advantage then? Maybe it wouldn't have been the exact same way as what happened after Rhaegar and Lyanna dipped, but if the element Tywin wanted was Rhaegar's absence, there are ways other than Rhaegar's own decision to get him out of KL for a specific or inordinate amount of time and separate him from an army. It is said that Rhaegar's departure with Lyanna is the trigger and/or actual cause of the war, but again Tywin was likely always plotting against the Targs and biding his time, seeing what he could gain at every turn of the fighting. Rhaegar did make it easier by not being present, but is there true evidence that he would have won if he stayed at Dragonstone and followed Elia to KL? How would he have known there would have been a war triggered by the Aersy and the Starks in the exact way that it actually happened when it was very preventable on Brandon and Rickard Stark's end?
And concerning Aerys being a danger to Elia and her kids, was Aerys only ever dangerous to them once Tywin and Robert threatened him?! And even then, he left them alone, not abuse them. And how could he stop his king father from keeping Elia and their kids with him when it's obvious Aerys was determined to keep them close? What would readers have done, with a volatile, paranoid, but-in-the-highest-position-of-power directs that your family stays close to them during a war, what would readers have done? I wonder. As long as you don't rile or make Aerys/someone like him suspicious too much, your kids are safe.
Also, Aerys refused to take Elia and her kids to Dragonstone with Rhaella and his own son, Viserys, because he wanted to use her and those kids as hostages believing that the Dornish had betrayed him after the Battle of the Trident where the Targ army with the Dornish army lost. Aerys wasn't afraid of getting on Rhaella's "bad side" nor was wary of her because she literally had no power against him, no other persons who could help her, and was under his full authority. Earlier male Targ practice of denying/taking political authority or power away from their female relatives and long-storied Andal systematic patriarchal custom. Aerys didn't develop a solid hatred or suspicion of the Dornish Martells or Elia for him to actually try to hurt her to display his own authority. He wasn't in the mind of even getting the ire of the Martells, seeing as they were still allies, by mistreating Elia. and Lyanna as well, as she was betrothed already to Robert.
E)
Bringing Back an Accidentally Deleted Segment about the Custom of crowning the queen of Love and Beauty* (1/13/23)
Yes, if a knight is married/betrothed, he may crown his wife/betrothed. However, he's not required to do so. There are no official rules that he needs to; social, yes, official to the tourney or game, or by actual LAW by the monarch, absolutely not.
Knights have given the crown to those:
- they just wanted to acknowledge as the leading lady of that tourney/gathering/the realm or to whom the tourney is honoring and thus gain favor with her...he could even amke requests through such means
- the above but as a way of "agreeing" with tourney organizer and their house
- through her, gains the favor of another prominent figure (this person could also be the one who organized and lead said tourney and could be her relative)
A hefty part of the reason for naming one's betrothed or wife or target of attraction Queen of LB is because marriages are political and about alliances and doing such is supposed to also publicly show that two families could/will join in some sort of alliance. It is to show the public the alliance between the two families/heads of houses. Marriage is a common way. So the prioritized reason that a scandal would happen if a knight were to name a woman (old enough not marry) TQoLaB would be he's transgressing such alliances or seemingly willingly putting his own families in danger, as his cheating would be seen as dishonoring not just his wife, but that BECAUSE the marriage is a political tool PLUS the treatment you give to the daughter of a house reflects on that house.
Examples of known queens of love & beauty before Lyanna in Westeros:
- 55 A.C: Daenerys, named by Simon Dondarrion -- Queen Alysanne & King Jaehaerys I's firstborn child, who died at 7-8 of the shivers
- 58 A.C.: Queen Alysanne, named by Ryam Redwyne of the Kingsguard (who couldn't marry bc of vows)
- 104 A.C.: Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen, 7 years old at the time, named by Ser Criston Cole (I don't think this was ever romantic mutually, nor that even if it was one-sided, Rhaenyr knew of Cole's feelings or at least their depth and how far he'd be willing to take them. But it's ope to interpretation.)
- [unknown date] Queen Naerys, named by her brother Aemon the Dragonknight (could have been romantic depending on whether we can argue they were already or going to be romantic atp)
- 209 A.C.: Lord Ashford's daughter, 13 yrs old and would later have FIVE champions fight for her honor in the Ashford Meadow tourney to determine f she would keep that title
- [unknown date] Princess Rhaella Targaryen (before she married Aerys), named by Bonifer Hasty -- this was romantic, and mutually so
- 281 A.C.: Lady Whent, who had been consistently the queen of Love and Beauty before the Harrenhal Tourney
The Chivalric Code, Courtly Love, and Medieval Noble Women
Numerous times, we learn that the knight of Westeros isn't too dissimilar form knights of real-world EU, nor is their code of conduct that dissimilar. Chivalry and courtly love, atp, also became deeply connecting and mutually affirming, the same for Westeros.
According to "The Knights’ Code of Chivalry", first recorded & described in the Song of Roland (1098-1100):
- To fear God and maintain His Church
- To serve the liege lord in valour and faith
- To protect the weak and defenceless
- To give succour to widows and orphans
- To refrain from the wanton giving of offence
- To live by honour and for glory.
- To despise pecuniary reward
- To fight for the welfare of all
- To obey those placed in authority.
- To guard the honour of fellow knights.
The knight would be a humble servant to his lady, demonstrating loyalty, compliance, and selflessness. He would often perform acts of service and chivalry in her honor.
The knight would direct his love and devotion towards a noblewoman, whom he viewed as the embodiment of perfection and beauty. The lady was often portrayed as unattainable, inspiring, and motivating the knight.
Courtly love emphasized the knight’s ardent admiration and devotion towards the beloved. The knight pledged to serve and honor the special, often engaging in chivalrous deeds to prove his loyalty.
Courtly love exalted the beloved to perfection, often portraying them as an object of admiration and reverence. The special was seen as the epitome of beauty, virtue, and grace. This idealization of the beloved is an accurate representation of courtly love.
Courtly love, yes, was ideal for adults, but young girls were socialized to "matter" as "young ladies", and the attention towards their claimed/perceived "perfection" of femininity and grace can/did nominate them for being acknowledged as things like the TQoLaB:
Courtly love literature often idealized European women, presenting them as paragons of virtue, beauty, and wisdom. The concept of courtly love emphasized the beloved’s superiority regarding social rank and personal qualities. This portrayal challenged the negative stereotypes of women in medieval society, which often depicted them as subordinate or inferior. The elevation of women as objects of adoration and inspiration within courtly love narratives helped counteract these stereotypes and presented a more positive image of femininity.
Courtly love created opportunities for women to exercise influence and agency within the confines of their societal roles. Women gained power over their suitors as objects of admiration and desire, shaping the relationship dynamics. The courtly love tradition often celebrated the beloved’s ability to inspire acts of bravery, poetry, and chivalry from their admirers. By occupying this influential role, women could exercise indirect authority and impact the behavior and values of the knights and troubadours who pursued them.
Now, why this was "elevating" for women, instead of being seen as bad at the time and moment? Before courtly love really took off and as people lived mostly in their castles, the dissemination of praise for the lady of the household/castle and wife of the lord was not expansive. Women were not as put in the public view nor understood of making subtle alliances, etc. Though chivalry & courtly romance do romanticize the noble lady she becomes a means to edify and reaffirm chivalric masculinity and patriarchal feudalism by making her the center/hub/patron of information...it also made her the principal and comparatively more central means for that, thus granted woman more authority and agency within the then framework. And girls are a part of that, being "trained" or just observing, but definitely still moving into those circles as they grow.
This isn't to say that Elia would have been a-okay with Rhaegar skipping past her--if they hadn't discussed it before, which no one can disprove, but since we can't prove it either...--but it is to say that Rhaegar did have a freer choice in who to name as TQoLaB. And this is where one theory comes into play, that Rhaegar POSSIBLY wished to make an alliance with the Starks and did it this way, acknowledging Lyanna's and unaware of how personally Robert would take that (yes, Robert had a choice and ability to not look at this as an "insult", that's machismo talking). We also have to remember that AWoIaF is written by Yandel, who obviously is trying to avoid crown censure or appeal to Robert and his later ruling sons--really the Lannisters giving power to him in the back scenes--and the Targs are a usurped dynasty....it would serve to keep to this particular narrative of RhaegarxLyanna being the MAIN reason why Robert went to war or how relations amongst several lords lead to a war-ready state before said war....when it certainly was not.
It's certainly better than making Elia out to be this victim of her husband's negligence OR abuse--a tired pattern in ASoIaf, if there. And again, I don't know if she became weak-willed seeing her humor and attitude before her marriage about some lord she was thinking of marrying before he either farted or burped.
It's possible that rather than being weak she was held back by the lethargy from being sick AND narrowly surviving 2 childbirths, so it would be "weak will" so much, again, as her prioritizing and/or her being okay with the affairs because of Dornishnesses. Until we get proof of otherwise, I prefer this reading to the totally helpless-to-cheating-victim story that also doesn't make sense anyway bc: 1) Rhaegar did what he could to protect her 2) cheating doesn't cause murders, murderers cause murders.
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Rhaegar seems to give Lyanna the crown of Love and Beauty not because he was in love with her right then & there (they literally had just met) or just because he was attracted to her.
Aerys sent him to capture the mysterious Knight of the Laughing Tree bc Aerys thought the knight was his enemy or a dangerous entity due to this disguise and the tree itself was laughing specifically at him. This is most likely how Rhaegar met Lyanna unofficially, him discovering her identity.
Some theorize that Rhaegar was not actually trying to hit on Lyanna through the crown so much as to offer her safety from Aerys. And this reasoning (according to the person) can go as far as why he took her to the Tower of Joy. I go with this theory.
As mentioned, Some say he wanted a stronger Baratheon-Stark alliance as his father has been growing suspicions of him and, again, he was plotting to make Aerys abdicate and he seems to have thought that giving the crown of LB would have complimented Robert and the Starks even with him being married to Elia and Lyanna betrothed because while it's expected that a knight gives that to his wife if he has one, he also can theoretically give it to any woman he wishes the favor of and dedicate his victory to (which could be political or personal, lines can be blurred). He already had the Martells as allies. However, the Stark father and brother and Robert were all outraged and that was easy to predict on Rhaegar's end, so it couldn't be this.
Some say that he admired her participation as the Knight of the Laughing Tree, had a vision or remembered one about winter roses being connected to her, that weirwood tree on the sigil, or her Starkness (old gods and weirwood association, the Starks are the Wards of the North and closest to that magic), and gave her the crown to tie themselves together in the future (or hint of one) he saw for whatever outcome he concluded. This could include the 1st theory about him wanting to protect her from Aerys but in my eyes, even that would be subordinate to my own estimation of why he did it.
I do not think Elia would be "okay" or indifferent towards his affair with Lyanna or that they had a kid together because that would present problems for how the Martells, Starks, and Lannisters all interact if Ned and Lyanna decided to make it known that this kid was Rhaegar's.
In any case, Rhaegar never annulled his marriage to Elia, so Jon/Aegon (if Lyanna's kid, which atp he def is) is definitely a bastard.
IF ELIA WAS CONCERNED OR ANGRY OR THREATENED BY RHAEGAR'S EXTERNAL ROMANCE(S): No, this kid would never have as much claim to the throne as Elia's kids, she wouldn't be upset with that specifically or how that could a legitimate kid with another noblewoman could endanger her kid. But Lyanna having her name and image smeared (her father and brothers and Robert are all very proud and virginity is a must for these knuckleheads' alliance) would present higher-risk complications for the Starks-to-Baratheons, and yes what happens with the war/rebellion.
[w/o considering Elia] Robert would never be able to look at Jon/Aegon and not think of Rhaegar, thus always exacerbating that relationship...if Robert had even allowed himself to not react immediately. It also would hurt the relationship between Ned and Robert bc Ned, no matter what would protect Lyanna, and had she lived, would most likely have sent her away and kept her location secret.