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Anonymous asked:

I watch George interview on fanfic his main concern is actually not about people who use his work as training their writing but he hates if people making money out his work, fanfiction writers is different with Ai they give george credit, promotion, keep his works and fandom alive main while AI was tool made by people to STEAL other people works without credit and its so unetthical, i don't think George really hate fanfiction when it come to writing he loves the great and My Lady jane He was fine with hbo making fanfiction out his works as long they give him money

Which interview did you watch and when was it published? Because he did at one point hate fanfic.

GRRM didn't like nonHBO adaptive or fanfics of his work (and in general, the writer/artist) precisely because these don't officially enable him to cash checks/enable him to make a living and he thought they'd be infringements on his copyright or be credited, but again, I don't know for sure. NOW, he appears fine with fanfic, whether or not it's from HBO or your "average" Mishka.

The Great & My Lady Jeyne are not his work PLUS they are both historical reimaginings of real events (not a writer/artist's work) that both have been in recent development (not around the time when he openly was against average-person fanfic) AND these aren't his works or came form his work.

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Is George had interview on AI topic or even talk about them in general? asoiaf/got/hotd got massive AI generate image, videos as their content even people making money out of this

Next year we probably got an adaptation from his book generate by AI and it's scary! if he dislikes fanfiction so much I don't know how much he would despise this thing, Linda Antonsson even using Ai picture on her wiki! that even fans start to draw those side forgotten characters so that Ai image got remove from the website.

I don't go to wherever Linda is, so I can't confirm she uses ai art as her social media cover or what have you. I also don't know if GRRM has ever spoken about ai "fanart". I do know that writers tend to be less stringent about fanart (this was before the rise of ai) than fanfiction bc fanfiction is an investment of rewriting or tweaking or creating something newish from their original work and those authors believed that was a copyright violation. Anne Rice infamously went after fanfic writers to the point that there were none put on the usual platforms until after she died; GRRM has never gone to that extent, but neither do I know if he ever changed his views.

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Anonymous asked:

for the fics you asked, it's fine if it's characters of other fandom inserted in asoiaf world and it's their story as major members of asoiaf houses?

I'd rather they were original characters.

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Anonymous asked:

What do you think about @sweetestpopcorn version that Daemon did cheat on Rhaenyra but it was nothing unusual for him and that it didn't say about lack of feelings for Rhaenyra? I just find it curious how some users stand against any affair between Mysaria, Nettles and Daemon and others are just ok with that, that Daemon was a kind of man who could easily do it as a rerun of his Rhaenyra courtship.

Before Answering about Daemon in the Fanfic

This post will have spoilers.

And I do not think he slept with Nettles at all or would have thought that even attractive (an affair with Nettles). Nothing can convince me of Nettles.

I also do not think canon him slept with Mysaria while married to Rhaenyra, ultimately because I feel and have faith that he was just too into her, had built a strong enough bond of trust for him to actually feel tempted, and because of Rhaenyra's mental condition at the time. I'm less confident about Mysaria all the same, while ainomica expresses total disdain for legitimate reasons HERE, some of them why I think he couldn't have slept with Mysaria.

Sweetestpopcorn's FanFic Daemon

However, in SP's fic, the Velaryon boys don't exist and Daemon and Rhaenyra marry much sooner. They don't actually build that mutual trust together yet, since Daemon sleeps with 2 sex workers gifted to him for the night by an Essosi merchant I forget the name of early in. So the possibility where Daemon cheats is more plausible with how early it was, who it was with, with them being married right after he "takes her virginity", etc.

In the fic's beginning (or really where we see what happened after he came back from the Stepstones in 111), we learn that Daemon seduced Rhaenyra more than he actually wanted to directly engage with her or saw her as a person. Basically that he only pursued her for power, nothing more.

However, later when he does fall for her in the fic (or acknowledges that he already did), we get a flashback to him holding baby Rhaenyra for the first time and SP makes it clear that there was always a soul connection between the two. And while he cheats with the two sex workers, he can't put Rhaenyra out of his head. So SP seems to want us to believe that Daemon represses his emotions and thought processes about them to himself in order to address the world around him as "realistically" as possible and protect himself from emotional damage (example, Viserys causing Mysaria's miscarriage).

And for the longest time, SP had Daemon continue to think to himself that he'd just rule Westeros through Rhaenyra and use her as a means to an end while indulging in the cookie, and then there's a point where he decides that being just being a Royal Consort and the father of the next King is enough.

Because if Daemon is more of a "realist" and a more ruthless person than most Daemyra shippers think -- one who doesn't express his/others' emotions or even think about them with a philosophical, "deep" analytical mind -- it's easier to present a Daemon who looks at the world through his feudal/male/princely privileges and having multiple sex partners while married to his first wife also cheating on the person he comes to realize (thought that cheating) he cares for much more than he ever thought he could love a person. That, and how the V boys don't exist, so SP can then make a story where it becomes easier to imagine canon Daemon actually having made plans/executed plans to kill Rhaenyra's kids by another man to make way for his own.

While reading, it felt wrong and right simultaneously. Mostly because I don't see Daemon fooling himself that hard -- that Rhaenyra is a device -- or for so long. Or that he'd actually be the person to actually kill his wife's kids (if they had existed) for his own son's ascension. But I can see that there could have been a progression towards a realization of the depth of his feelings for her, that there could have been a progression at all I mean. That there was plausibility in that aspect.

The Daemon I got from canon is ambitious and I can see him as a guy who doesn't think or ponder over deeper emotions and motivations, including his own. Again, very action-oriented guy. Doesn't analyze his own emotions, just lets them happen. He sees that multiple people in arranged marriages have lovers, he had a terrible marriage with a woman he did not like much less love and is as "restless" as HotD Viserys paints him because he wishes to escape those bonds. Marriage = containment/becoming a means to an end for others.

So it's easier to buy into SP's fic Daemon and conclude that Daemon felt that his marriage with Rhaenyra was an opportunity to escape that marriage/a life of emotional imprisonment. When you focus on them focusing on Daemon being distant from Rhaenyra as he's portrayed to be. By the time he gets to Rhaenyra, he has been used to the idea that marriage is only good for politics and power, has used these sex workers for pleasure, destressing, and he is a feudal man in a world where men have the allowance of doing all of what I said over women. However before marrying Rhaenyra, Daemon also sought out Mysaria and kept her around in both in canon AND sweetestpopcorn's fic because he connected with her and wanted intimacy, something close enough to love. Still, the Daemon of SP's fic is a Daemon that has reduced or objectified his own sexual and emotional experiences into materials to handle according to his own will. Him marrying Rhaenyra in the fic is mainly him taking back control and making marriage -- the feudal institution itself -- less of an imprisonment and more of an advantage for him. As marriage is treated those who arrange them in the first place.

And to hear SP's Rhaenyra explicitly demand he not sleep with anyone else with the threat of sleeping with others, I saw that SP was telling their readers that Daemon sleeping with the two sex workers was his act of defiance turned into the beginning of an epiphany, or a loosening of his self awareness.

Actually Answering the Question

While I see the vision, SP already warns their readers that they deviate from canon at a certain point, and I see how it does use canon traits for it's characterization, I don't really agree with it.

Personally, I didn't like that he cheated and screamed at my computer when it happened, since SP's Daemon was much more self-centered than I imagined (and I already felt that Daemon was his own selfish and sexist person, since he does describe Rhea Royce in demeaning, gender-based ways AND there is an element of his character where he was pursuing Rhaenyra for power -- both consequences of being a dragonriding feudal prince/man).

I also saw how SP wrote the scene to exhibit both his messiness and how he uses action-before-thought (more often) to come to a realization (for personal things) that he doesn't even fully acknowledge so much as falls into and accepts because he doesnt want to invest his mental energy into it when he feels so strongly already.

Ultimately, I'm not totally down for this storyline despite its plausible elements because Daemon is more of a douche to Rhaenyra than I felt he was when I never really thought he would. One could say that his time away from her in the Stepstones and his running from his emotions might make more room for him to be so douche and self-serving, more dismissive of her as a person in her own right after having thought more of what he needed after he baished Viserys in his heart after the miscarriage (that's what happens in the fic, he doesn't really see himnas a brother anymore).

But when it's couched with his repeated dismissals of her other protests against his thoughts or behaviors AND her obvious belief that he is her one and only, that he'd never go out of his way to hurt her or do something he'd know would hurt her WHILE us, the readers, know that Daemon cheated on her....I am and have grown suspicious of the perspective.

The war has begun in the fic, so I feel that SP is building towards a huge, potentially bond-breaking rift between R and D with Rhaenyra to match their disintegration in canon that I dread, especially since they utterly removed Jace, Luke, and Joff, even adding a child between the that doesn't exist in canon.

You know, apart from my love for Rhaenyra and me wanting only the best for her in all things without removing all conflict (internal and external) entirely.

Better than HotD still since the fic actually follow the world building pretty well where it needs to, and the writers sticks to their guns, staying consistent.

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