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Anonymous asked:

I never held much with slavery […]. You can’t just go… usin’ another kind of people, like they wasn’t people at all. Know what I mean ? Got to end, sooner or later. Better if it ends peaceful, but it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood, you see ? Maybe that’s what them abolitionists been sayin’ all along. You try to be reasonable, that’s only right, but if it don’t work, you got to be ready. Some things is just wrong. They got to be ended.

This is an excerpt from George R. R. Martin’s novel Fevre Dream (1982). The context here is that when Abner Marsh, the book’s protagonist, is first introduced he is against slavery but doesn’t do anything to stop it. After the events of the novel, he comes to empathize with the slaves and radically changes his stance. Sometimes, Fire and Blood isn’t such a bad thing. 

The only morally correct thing that Daenerys should have done is kill ALL the masters. Every single one of them. It is understandable of course why she wanted to kill as few people as possible. She has a gentle, merciful and compassionate heart and I believe she will learn how to balance her heart with the harsh but necessary choices she will have to make in the future.

finitefall/the former theblacqveen has a post saying exactly this HERE.

Agreed!

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Anonymous asked:

I knew there was something off when I saw fair, long-haired and vaguely effeminate Aeron Bracken being "bullied" by mean darker-haired Blackwood boys. They only have one story. Someone needs to go to therapy instead of writing for this show.

*EDIT 10/24/24* Daemon was at Harrenhal when the Blackwoods raided several Bracken lands, "despoiled" their septs, and sacked Bracken villages. (Raventree - Blackwoods / Stone Hedge - Brackens)

("The Red Dragon and the Gold" // "A Son for a Son")

So it's more than likely that canon!daemon sent the Blackwoods to raid and attack Bracken land, whether he traveled by dragon over/by Stone Hedge to the Blackwoods or by raven. However, no Tully or any Riverlord, went to Harrenhal to accuse Daemon of anything in canon precisely because:

  • the Blackwoods didn't raid, seemingly, any other house's lands but for their known mortal enemies, the Brackens
  • the Brackens had already declared their support for Aegon, while the Blackwoods did for Rhaenyra...so yes, Rhaenyra's supporters would attack the Brackens...bc this is a war
  • several houses had already fought with Daemon against the Brackens as part of his strategy against them

It was not a situation where Daemon willfully decided to have Blackwoods ruin people's lives so he can look good or one where the riverlords saw a huge travesty being done to them. It was warfare.

*END OF EDIT*

Yeah, they probably saw all those fans who say they dislike how GRRM made the Blackwoods the more favored of the two houses through how the coolest & most loyal-to-the-Targs/generally duty bound characters tend to come from the Blackwoods house.

So in those writers' minds, they are "leveling" things out to make nobles the issue, and the Targs' enabling violence in other houses and comparatively more than other non Targ houses.

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Anonymous asked:

Your math is not mathing, how can Aemond be twelve in ep 6 when he wasn't born before the time skip of ten years? The next time skip is about six years so Aemond in the show is younger than his book counterpart. Another proof is Aegon's words that his father didn't name him heir in twenty years meaning he is in fact twenty meaning Helaena is 18 as she was born two years later and Aemond is about 17.

You reminded me to check and confirm what you say. In this WinterisComing post, it is said that Ryan says, “Young Joffrey is around 6 or 7. As for the other kids, showrunner Ryan Condal says they’re all in “the 17-21 age range.” As if that helps things at all.... In this Elle article, we see the writer themselves not really knowing what’s happening. So I had to buckle up and do some....math (dun, dund\, dun).

By episode 2, we hear Viserys say that Rhaenyra is 15 and in the very beginning -- with a black screen -- we find out that the show’s events occur 172 years before 284 A.C. when Daenerys was canonically born. 

So we are supposed to be in 112 A.C when Viserys is hosting a tourney for his soon-to-arrive son Baelon. Rhaenyra is still 15, but Alicent’s been aged down to match her (when she would have been already married to Viserys I for 6 years by then [in canon, they marry at 106 A.C., when Alicent is 18 and Viserys is 29/30]).

These are the Book Ages at 112 A.C.:

  • Rhaenyra - 15
  • Alicent - 24
  • Viserys I - 35
  • Daemon - 31
  • Criston - 31
  • Laena - 20
  • Laenor - 18
  • Rhaenys - 38
  • Corlys - 59 
  • Otto - 36

And the Book Ages at 131 A.C. (end of the Dance):

  • Rhaenyra - 33*
  • Viserys I - 52* (age by death)
  • Alicent - 42/43
  • Daemon - 49*
  • Criston - 49*
  • Otto - 55
  • Laena - 27*
  • Laenor - 26*
  • Rhaenys - 55*
  • Corlys - 78
  • Baela - 15
  • Rhaena - 15
  • Aegon (II) - 24
  • Helaena - 21*
  • Aemond - 20* 
  • Daeron - 16*
  • Jacaerys - 16*
  • Lucerys - 14* 
  • Joffrey - 13*
  • Aegon (III) - 10
  • Viserys (II) - 8

The Show Ages at 111-2 A.C. for everyone is the same as canon except Alicent, who is 15. She and Show!Viserys marry episode 2, where Rhaenyra and Alicent are still 15.  

Three years pass after episode 2 and Alicent is heavily pregnant with Helaena and has already had Aegon the Elder, who Viserys says is 2 years old.

Since Alicent is aged down 9 years, her children are aged back.

So by episode 3/115 A.C., the Ages are:

  • Rhaenyra - 18
  • Alicent - 18
  • Viserys I - 38
  • Daemon - 34
  • Criston - 34
  • Laena - 23
  • Laenor - 21
  • Otto - 39
  • Rhaenys - 41
  • Corlys - 62
  • Aegon (II) - 2 

It’s only a few months to episode 4. Helena is an infant, Aegon is maybe still 2 or he’s 3 in episode 5. None of the Velaryon boys exist yet.

Episode 5 passes straight after the events of episode 4, so the things of episodes 4 and 5 all happen in under a year.

However, canonically by 115 A.C, Aegon the Elder is 8; Helaena is supposed to be 6, and Aemond is 5, and Daeron is supposed to be around 1. 
Jacaerys is supposed to already exist and is 1 here not long after the events of episode 5.

By episode 6, 10 years pass and it is 125 A.C.

Laena and Laenor are both supposed to be dead by 120.

The Ages in 125 A.C./episode 6 are:

  • Rhaenyra - 28
  • Alicent - 28
  • Viserys I - 48
  • Daemon - 44
  • Criston - 44
  • Otto - 49
  • Rhaenys - 59
  • Corlys - 72
  • Aegon (II) - 13
  • Helaena - 12
  • Aemond - 8/9 (nothing is given, we just have to go by canon-inspired subtraction/adjustment)
  • Daeron - 4/5 (???!!! and he’s supposedly in Oldtown at that age?!)
  • Jacaerys - 6-10 (we’re not given a specific bday in the show)
  • Lucerys - 5-9  (we’re not given a specific bday in the show)
  • Joffrey - 0 (freshly born)

Rhaenys says she last saw Corlys 6 years ago in episode 8. The Ages in 131 A.C./episodes 8 - 10 are:

  • Rhaenyra - 34
  • Alicent - 34
  • Viserys I - 54
  • Daemon - 50
  • Criston - 50
  • Otto - 55
  • Rhaenys - 65
  • Corlys - 78
  • Aegon (II) - 19
  • Helaena - 18
  • Aemond - 14/15 
  • Daeron - 10/11 (he’s still supposedly in Oldtown?!)
  • Jacaerys - 12-16  (we’re not given a specific bday in the show)
  • Lucerys - 11-15  (we’re not given a specific bday in the show)
  • Joffrey - 6
  • Aegon (III) - ~ 2
  • Viserys (II) - ~ 1

Again, since Ryan Condal and the other writers changed the age for Alicent and basically moved everything forward, this is the result of what the ages were. I used the canon ages and calculated when I could. Let me know of anything to consider changing.

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The boy threw back his cowl. As the sunlight glittered on the silver-gold hair beneath, King Aegon III began to weep, throwing himself upon this boy in a fierce embrace. Oakenfist’s “treasure” was Viserys Targaryen, the king’s lost brother, the youngest son of Queen Rhaenyra and Prince Daemon, presumed dead since the Battle of the Gullet, and missing for nigh unto five years.

My last drawing for Targaryen Month 2019! I had to draw this touching scene that had me in tears when I first read it.

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