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BROTHERLY LOVE Artwork by Borja Pindado

When Larra gave birth to her second son, a boy named Aemon, Lord Torrhen arranged a celebratory feast. The court was delighted by the birth of yet another potential heir to the Iron Throne…or at least, most of it was. Aemon’s brother, the year-and-a-half-old Aegon, was discovered one day striking his infant brother with the dragon egg in his cradle, but Lady Larra intervened before any harm could be done.

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It’s hilarious to see TG claiming that Aemond threw Aegon under the bus in HOTD during the Driftmark episode to protect his mother from Viserys’ wrath. He wouldn’t do anything to Alicent. Once again, he would just told her to stop spreading unfounded rumors. She bring up the bastard thing the day Joffrey was born, IN THE PREVIOUS EPISODE, and Viserys calmly told her a story about his black mare. And this wasn’t the first time she told him about Rhaenyra’s sons being bastards.

Alicent: I have raised this matter before and you forbade me to speak of it, so I held my tongue. To have one child like that is a mistake, to have three is an insult, to the throne, to you, to House Velaryon and the match you battled so hard to make for her. Not to mention decency itself.

Viserys: The consequences of an allegation like the one you toy at would be dire. Do not speak of this again.

Y’all try so hard to make Viserys more abusive than Aegon IV, Robert Baratheon or Aerys II so Alicent can be the most victimized victim that’s ever been victimed in the history of victims, but that’s NOT gonna work. Nice try though!

I haven't checked any TG stuff this past few weeks, I admit, and Twitter has thus far not brought up anything like this. I have no idea what you're referring to. I will say that they didn't have a fully consensual, innocuous sex life--Viserys and Alicent--but yeah, Viserys didn't perform those acts of abuse you mention. Not that would ever make the settings feel safe for someone, but yeah. I wouldn't league him with the likes of Aegon IV, Aerys II, or Robert.

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How do Martell’s fans square being pro-Hightower & pro-Aegon II when the Reach & Dorne regularly go to war with one another and have embittered and toxic relations, there’s a statue of Daeron the Young Dragon pointing his sword at Dorne in Oldtown, and Aegon II killed Gaemon Palehair’s Dornish mother ???

Anon refers to this ("Samwell V" - A Feast for Crows):

The path divided where the statue of King Daeron the First sat astride his tall stone horse, his sword lifted toward Dorne.

And yes, both the Stormlanders and the Reachmen have an extensive history battling against the Dornishmen both before and after the Targs. It is one of the reasons why the Stormland courtiers of Daeron II's court hated the Dornish presence after he married Myriah Martell and brought many of her countrymen with them and gave them offices.

According to Mushroom, Essie (Gaemon's mother) wasn't likely Dornish. You're thinking of her lover Sylvenna Sand. But both were executed horrendously ("Rhaenyra Overthrown" - Fire and Blood):

The Targ closest to Aegon II by traits and behaviors (gluttony and sexual perversions and sleeping with sex workers [philandering/rape], having multiple bastards, hating their wives, and being overall ultra-misogynists), Aegon IV, had many contraptions built expressly for his own planned war against the Dornish (the one that couldn't even get into the Boneway before self-destructing in wildfyre spillage).

While the Dornish are somewhat more progressive towards noble women and general sexuality than the rest of Westeros, they are still very hierarchical. Oberyn Martell essentially made his own daughter abandon her own mother (how he got Obara) and abandoned the woman who birthed his child himself after he told Obara to choose who to stay with when he easily could have installed Obara's mother in her own dwellings at the very least. He characterized Obara's mother's crying as a female "weapon", and a lesser one at that (misogyny). Obara's mother was also a sex worker. She drank herself to death from misery. So Aegon II's killing Gaemon's mother's lover is not out of the ordinary for this society and to these people (aristocrats), her death means nothing.

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People keep forgetting about Daeron II, like there was the rumor that he was a bastard, rumors literally spread by Aegon IV, yet he still became king.

Daeron II becomes king despite rumors of bastardry in part because his illegitimate siblings were "obviously" bastards from birth (since Aegon IV openly fraternized with their mothers who also stayed at court with him during their trlationships so one can witness their pregnancies and laboring) while outnumbering him and his legitimate sister Daenerys--he was the only legitimate-son-from-birth (officially) kids--AND because he was of good enough character, esp juxtaposed against the cruel Aegon IV. And he was male.

Looks like circumstances outweigh true, "proven" parentage.

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Oh please. The whole “Aegon is a victim and a complex character” comes from the actor being hot and act with that tearing eyes/sleep deprived face, besides that the character is just a rapist and child abuser. And while I hate Aegon, I do agree that Tom is handsome and a great actor.

Cast a young and hot actor for Aegon IV, give him mommy issues/daddy issues (after all, his mother abandoned him when he was 4 years old and he may have poisoned his own father) and he will have stans.

While the actor's looks definitely helped to garner more allured fans to try and write off his actions, it's not just motivated by his looks but extant misogyny. That is the base, the driver of Aegon love and his writing in the show.

Misogyny makes it a lot easier to claim that the serving women and girls all somehow consented or welcomed Aegon's advances, that Helaena wanted him to be her husband or that she consented to having drunken sex with him 100% or most of the time, that Alicent is wholly responsible for him choosing to rape (even with hundreds of examples of real and fictional men and boys mistreated by moms or being taught to mistreat women still being reasonable enough to not seek women out to just rape them) which would them contradict the green stans' claim that Aegon did not rape.... inconsistencies abound.

The misogyny and sociopolitical sexism which places both these men in power and justifies rape already laid the groundwork for further and specified justification made for Aegon II. The actor's looks were, again, icing on the rotted cake. If they ever make an adaptation for Naerys, Aemon, and Aegon IV and have Aegon's actor attractive (as Targs usually are), yes it is game over. But because of the sexism that sees Aegon as just assuming his righteous authority over the bastard-bearing Naerys (as one idea/theory is that Daeron was Aemon'a child and not Aegon IV's).

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Duty and sacrifice is EXACTLY what destroyed and killed Naerys and Rhaella. Why are the oppressed always the ones asked to be silent and pliant and do their duty regardless of their oppression and abuse ??

Naerys was pious and performed her wifely duties, her marriage to her brother Aegon IV was a very unhappy one, she wished to stop sharing his bed after their son's birth, as any further pregnancies could endanger her life, but he refused out of spite (marital rape). He cheat on her with a LOT OF women, openly humiliated her, sired bastards and legitimized them, threatening Naerys's son claim (and future reign). She finally died in childbirth after a lifetime of misery and suffering.

Rhaella was in love with a landed knight, but give up on him, obeyed her father, did her duty and married her brother. And how did that work out for her ?? Aerys didn't wanted her, openly cheat on her with her handmaids, became insane, and beat and raped her every night to the point where it looked as though she had been savaged by an animal. She suffered miscarriages and many of her babies were stillborn or died in the cradle. She gave birth to Rhaegar when she was 13 or 14. She eventually died in chilbirth after having witnessed the fall of her house and the deaths of her eldest son and her grandchildren, and left her two surviving children (an eight-year-old child and a newborn baby) to the mercy of a cruel and unforgiving world. 

And despite being dutiful and faithful wives, Aegon and Aerys STILL accused them of adultery. Aegon openly doubted Daeron's paternity and favored his bastard son Daemon over him. Aerys became convinced all the miscarriages and stillbirths Rhaella suffered was because she was cheating on him because “the gods would not suffer a bastard to sit on the Iron Throne”, forbade her to leave the confines of Maegor’s Holdfast and ordered two Septas in her room at all times to make sure Rhaella wasn't seeing other men.

RIGHT? Rhaella and Naerys' have done "what was expected from them" and yet, the fates of those women are tragic and cruel. No matter how dutiful and faithful they were, they suffered, went through some of the most horrific abuses at the hand of their husbands who ended up accusing them of cheating. And the worst is the fact this fandom glorifies their silence and obedience as if they had any other choice.

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Part of a little project I began working on on Patreon, of some significant Targaryen trios. I really loved working on this, and especially drawing Aegon who has a different body-type and face than what I usually work on. Hopefully I’ll be able to work on the next trio soon!

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Anonymous asked:

Where did the targaryens get the idea of drinking wildfire = turning into a dragon? Or juat that wildfire can hatch an egg?

Aerion "Brightflame" Targaryen is the only Targ who drank wildfire and believed he could literally become/transform into one.

Aerys II became obsessed with wildfire once he realized how vulnerable he was against rebellion (Battle of the Bells and the Defiance at Duskendale) and would later surround King's Landing with it in a mass murder-suicide if threatened. Wildfire, to him, was an extension and mimicry of using actual dragons, showing his desperation for power. Aerys II's regard for wildfire was more metaphorical than it was for Aerion. He was still insane, though, like Aerion. He was of the paranoid sort, gone to a place of no recovery from him believing he would lose power at any moment after years of trying and failing to sire children.

Other Targaryens like Aegon IV, Aegon V, & those at Summerhall, used wildfire while sane. Not to "become" dragons but just use it as a simple device. There was no madness and no twisting wildfire to be something that it is not, at least not any twisting that was itself not a an experiment made from measured logical conclusions. Aegon IV for warfare. Aegon V, Maester Corso, Duncan the Tall, and Prince Duncan all wished to restore dragons by using wildfire to heat up and “activate” some eggs that never hatched. Even Aegon III and Viserys tried together by bringing in some sorcerers and the like from Essos (though not with wildfire).

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What do you think of people who believe in the inherent madness of the Targaryens? (my opinion: this is bullshit, and I'm sick of seeing so many people supporting this shit)

Long story short (because I'm feeling a bit sleepy, we'll see how long that lasts), I think that the "madness" Targs supposedly have is more their boldness and willingness to go around expected boundaries or capabilities before and during Rhaneyra's generation. That the Westerosi and others around them didn't think it wise or possible to accomplish (Daeron I was not mad, he was more brash and arrogant. *EDIT* And young with both a lot of power and dreams of conquest like Aegon I *END OF EDIT*)

After her? Growing desperation, something like nostalgia but really a thing deeper and sharper, more poignant than even that. Aerys II and Aerion Brightflame were the only two I can immediately remember as having been actually insane, while people like Viserys (Dany's brother), Aegon IV, and Baelor were living in a world around their own egos. Even Aerion is a grey-black place.

Yes, saintly Baelor was narcissistic. I mean, the maidenvault? Zealous narcissism *EDIT* exacerbated by the suffering at the hands of the Wyls: being poisoned and unconscious on the trip back to the Keep.*END OF EDIT*

But out of all the Targs, there weren't many who were crazy or self-involved and very few who needed a straightjacket.

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Naerys's story always makes me sad, because she didn't want to marry Aegon and he clearly despised her, as she wanted to become a septa and they didn't allow it, dying in childbirth. And even dead, Aegon continued to allow humiliation upon her. And that was with her following the rules, and it wasn't enough to protect. That's what they don't understand, no matter who follows the patriarchal and sexist rules, even if "perfectly", they will never be rewarded for fitting in what they expect.

Naerys' story is tragic indeed. The girl just wanted to become a septa, ffs...

"they will never be rewarded for fitting in what they expect"

And that's very hard to accept for those people. If they can't make it by following what's expected of them, they don't know what else to do. So they keep saying how unfair it is that we hate female characters who just do their duty and endure sacrifices while we let other female characters who never cared about anything get away with everything. It's their version, which is a grotesque caricature, but if women can't be rewarded by fitting in, then they have to be martyrs even in the fandom, which in their screwed up vision might actually be a reward.

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aegon/aemon/naerys doodles I did as a warmup the other day. wanna draw them properly sometime cuz they compel me. I keep seeing art/fancasts of aemon & naerys that make them very beautiful & ethereal but I like drawing aemon blunt-faced & eyebrowless (aegon was the handsome one) + naerys looking like I want to feed her a xanax out of my open palm as if feeding a nervous horse

Correct me if I misremember it, but wasn't Daenerys supposed be similar to Naerys in appearance?

If so, then she indeed needs to be very beautiful since Daenerys was constantly called beautiful..

I’ll draw dany weird looking too idgaf

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