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The War of the Five Kings has a far better case for a no side is truly in the right interpretation than the Dance ever could.

But... that would mean acknowledging the injustice of the patriarchal violence Cersei was subjected to and had to defend herself from, and the fact that the problem wasn't that Joffrey was a "bastard" but actually the Lannister power grab that would have happened "lawfully" when Robert died regardless of Joffrey's parentage.

I wonder why people choose to view, why HBO chose to market, the conflict that requires acknowledging the wrongs of patriarchy in order for there to be a "right" side as the "nUaNcEd" one with no right side, and the one that requires that acknowledgement in order to do justice to the nuance as the one with a "right" side? Hmm...

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They were being taken to serve Lord Tywin Lannister at Harrenhal, the Mountain told them. "You're traitors and rebels, so thank your gods that Lord Tywin's giving you this chance. It's more than you'd get from the outlaws. Obey, serve, and live." "It's not just, it's not," she heard one wizened old woman complain to another when they had bedded down for the night. "We never did no treason, the others come in and took what they wanted, same as this bunch." "Lord Beric did us no hurt, though," her friend whispered. "And that red priest with him, he paid for all they took." "Paid? He took two of my chickens and gave me a bit of paper with a mark on it. Can I eat a bit of raggy old paper, I ask you? Will it give me eggs?" She looked about to see that no guards were near, and spat three times. "There's for the Tullys and there's for the Lannisters and there's for the Starks." "It's a sin and a shame," an old man hissed. "When the old king was still alive, he'd not have stood for this." "King Robert?" Arya asked, forgetting herself. "King Aerys, gods grace him," the old man said, too loudly. A guard came sauntering over to shut them up. The old man lost both his teeth, and there was no more talk that night.
Besides his captives, Ser Gregor was bringing back a dozen pigs, a cage of chickens, a scrawny milk cow, and nine wagons of salt fish. The Mountain and his men had horses, but the captives were all afoot, and those too weak to keep up were killed out of hand, along with anyone foolish enough to flee. The guards took women off into the bushes at night, and most seemed to expect it and went along meekly enough. One girl, prettier than the others, was made to go with four or five different men every night, until finally she hit one with a rock. Ser Gregor made everyone watch while he took off her head with a sweep of his massive two-handed greatsword. "Leave the body for the wolves," he commanded when the deed was done, handing the sword to his squire to be cleaned.

-- A Clash of Kings - Arya VI

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It’s hard to take fake woke show locals and asoiaf neutrals seriously when they talk about how the show’s change of Alicent’s character, or Alicent herself, provide an empathetic portrayal of patriarchy and how it influences women. 

The Dance of Dragons is obviously an important event in Westerosi, and Targaryen, history, such that it’s discussed by the people over a century later. The two times that a character mentions Rhaenyra in the main timeline, their analyses of the Dance are vastly different: 

Davos had no choice but to answer. “Death,” he said. “The penalty is death, Your Grace.” “It has always been so. I am not … I am not a cruel man, Ser Davos. You know me. Have known me long. This is not my decree. It has always been so, since Aegon’s day and before. Daemon Blackfyre, the brothers Toyne, the Vulture King, Grand Maester Hareth … traitors have always paid with their lives … even Rhaenyra Targaryen. She was daughter to one king and mother to two more, yet she died a traitor’s death for trying to usurp her brother’s crown. It is law. Law, Davos. Not cruelty.” (Davos IV ASOS) 
“You twist my words. I never said … Dorne is different. The Seven Kingdoms have never had a ruling queen.” “The first Viserys intended his daughter Rhaenyra to follow him, do you deny it? But as the king lay dying the Lord Commander of his Kingsguard decided that it should be otherwise.” Ser Criston Cole. Criston the Kingmaker had set brother against sister and divided the Kingsguard against itself, bringing on the terrible war the singers named the Dance of the Dragons. Some claimed he acted from ambition, for Prince Aegon was more tractable than his willful older sister. Others allowed him nobler motives, and argued that he was defending ancient Andal custom. A few whispered that Ser Criston had been Princess Rhaenyra’s lover before he took the white and wanted vengeance on the woman who had spurned him. “The Kingmaker wrought grave harm,” Ser Arys said, “and gravely did he pay for it, but…” (The Soiled Knight AFFC) 

Notice first the similarities in these two scenes: both involve an important figure of royalty/nobility, specifically claimants to a throne. Stannis Baratheon is one of the five kings in the relevant War of the Five Kings, warring to claim the Iron Throne. Arianne Martell is Doran Martell’s Heir to the Dornish Seat of Sunspear, the Princess of Dorne, and is scheming to make Myrcella Baratheon Queen under Dornish law, which would then make her the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. In both situations, Stannis and Arianne are arguing with their advisors/confidantes (Davos Seaworth and Arys Oakheart) what their duty should be versus what course of action they should take going forward as regards their war. Finally, both their advisors are cautioning them against taking a course of action: Davos is trying to convince Stannis from executing a loyal man, even if he seems to be a traitor, and Arys is trying to convince Arianne of the unfeasibility of her queenmaking scheme. 

The reason that it’s important to highlight the similarities in this situation is to showcase that both have a specific analysis of Rhaenyra Targaryen and the Dance and then put that analysis into practice as a justification for their future course of action. This is, secondly, where the crucial difference between Stannis and Arianne emerges: that of gender, and gender and politics, a theme that is extremely important to ASOIAF. 

Both Stannis and Arys do not consider Rhaenyra a rightful Queen Regnant, a ruling queen in her own right. Despite the fact that Rhaenyra ruled as “the half year queen”, Arys says that the Seven Kingdoms are different from Dorne because they’ve never had a “ruling queen”, essentially dismissing Rhaenyra’s claim and reign. Meanwhile, Stannis doesn’t even accept that Rhaenyra was a legitimate, rightful claimant to the Throne. He openly calls her a traitor, and says that despite her being a King’s daughter and a mother to two future Kings, she is the one who attempted to usurp her brother’s throne. On the other hand, Arianne not only accepts Rhaenyra as a legitimate claimant by pointing out that Viserys I declared Rhaenyra his heir, she considers Rhaenyra as a proper ruling queen in her own right who, for a time, ruled Westeros as a Queen Regnant, and most crucially, that it was Criston Cole who betrayed her and was responsible for violating Viserys I’s decree and helped Aegon II usurp her throne. 

What does it say that two men, at separate times, in separate contexts, dismiss Rhaenyra’s rightful claim and the (admittedly short) time she spent in a capacity as a Queen in her own right, while a princess, a Dornish princess at that (someone whose regional customs explicitly allow for female succession), sees Rhaenyra as the rightful Queen, her legitimate claim usurped by traitors? What does it say that a (claimant) King uses Rhaenyra’s fate to justify executing loyal men as traitors, while a Princess, fearful of being usurped by her own brother, uses Rhaenyra’s fate to justify her Queenmaking scheme? What does it say that she sees Rhaenyra as precedent for crowning Myrcella? What does it say that Arys thinks about how some people defend Criston Cole’s betrayal of Rhaenyra as him trying to uphold the Andal Custom of male exclusive succession? Does this imply the tension between Valyrian/Targaryen customs, and the Faith of the Seven/Andal culture/the Maesters, that Fire and Blood and ASOIAF have been depicting? Does it then make sense that a Dornish princess would side with the Valyrian tendency over the Andal tendency in assessing primogeniture? 

You can’t argue that there’s “bias for Targaryens” here as so many of you argue whenever we point out that Alicent is neither sympathetic nor a feminist character. Stannis is a Baratheon, an enemy of the Targaryens, and a supporter of Aegon II. Arianne uses Rhaenyra as a precedent for her queenmaking scheme before Doran reveals his scheme of vengeance, justice, fire and blood, to her, so you can’t argue that Arianne supports Rhaenyra only because of Doran’s plot. And of course the Maesters themselves who wrote about the Dance were biased against the Targaryens (which comes through in Arys Oakheart’s assessment of Criston Cole, explanations of his betrayal including lovesickness and claims of cultural differences––Oakheart is not denigrating Andal custom here, he’s thinking of how people use it to defend Criston’s betrayal). 

(VERY important to note the parallels/anti-parallels between Criston Cole and Arys Oakheart; both serve as members of the Kingsguard, for Viserys I and Robert Baratheon, respectively; both become lovers of the female claimant to a throne, Rhaenyra and Arianne respectively; yet note the critical difference here, that Criston “soils” his white cloak by betraying Rhaenyra, while Arys “soils” his white cloak by protecting Arianne and helping her scheme against the Seven Kingdoms. Ultimately, the difference between them is that Arys dies for his princess, while Criston betrays his princess and rises to power in her opposing faction, which ultimately leads to her destruction). Ask yourself: why does GRRM position Criston and Arys as parallels and give Arianne a supporting character who, on the face of it, is similar to Criston Cole, only for him to end up so differently? 

In short, if women are defending Rhaenyra’s claim, viewing her as a rightful Queen who was usurped and betrayed, and seeing her as precedent for installing a Queen Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms, and men dismiss her claim and legitimacy and view her as a traitor, then it doesn’t matter how ruthless or morally gray you think Rhaenyra “objectively” is or how bad you feel for Alicent or how resentful you are of a supposed “bias for Targaryens” in the text. These are not Targaryen characters, and yet even they have an extremely marked difference in how they discuss Rhaenyra and use her as justification for their own schemes. The events of history inform the political ideologies of all the characters. Catelyn, for example, uses the Blackfyre Rebellions as proof that bastard blood is treacherous, such that she warns Robb not to make Jon his heir. Naturally this is another example that follows suit, of two characters entangled with the political plotline using the history of Westeros to justify their ideology or schemes. If Alicent was meant to be read as a feminist or sympathetic character in the books, then this marked difference wouldn’t be so stark or clear and Arianne likely wouldn’t see the situation in the frame that she does. Yet it’s not a coincidence that we see a reflection of these historical events in the main timeline of ASOIAF; women throughout the main timeline struggle with their place in politics, most prominently reflected in Dany’s arc, Cersei’s arc (as similar to Alicent as she is, funnily enough), Asha’s arc, and Arianne’s arc, but even in Melisandre, Arya, Catelyn, Sansa, and Brienne’s arcs, each dealing with the question of gender in politics in some way. 

In light of this, it’s worth thinking through if the show’s decision to make Alicent more sympathetic truly is feminist if the books already explore the feminist theme of how women versus men react to the usurpation of female political power and the destruction of women who try to assert their rights in a patriarchal world. In my view, the books do a far better job of this. The difference in how Stannis/Arys Oakheart versus Arianne talk about Rhaenyra is subtle but it’s deliberate, rather than being a heavy handed attempt at moralizing about “oppressed, brainwashed women who have no choice but to hurt other women”. Moreover, the way in which Rhaenyra’s struggle is reflected by the women of the main timeline and how her story serves as a commentary or emphasis on their struggles is more intentionally thought out by Fire & Blood being a speculative historical volume from a biased, anti-Targaryen source, rather than a dramatic account. See here for why Cersei in the books is also a far superior character to Alicent for balancing the theme of “a woman can be truly evil and harm other women while still having her own nuances and vulnerabilities and trauma that undergirds her actions”. 

But what exactly are Targaryen traditions of succession? There is no example of female ruling Lady except Rhaenyra (Valyrians used to marry their eldest daughter to their sons to negate their claims). Later on, her own grand daughter (Princess Daena) was removed from succession in favour of his son (King Viserys II) citing her example. His own sons didn’t acknowledge her as ruler (instead claiming agnatic descent from Daemon).

Queen Visenya was the eldest child of Lord Aerion, but it was her brother Aegon the conqueror who became his heir. King Jaehaerys was made king (his sister had to give up the claims of her daughters). Princess Rhaenys (against the Andal tradition of succession i.e. sons before daughters, daughters before uncles) was removed from the succession in favour of her uncle Prince Baelon (father of King Viserys I).

And I don’t think either Rhaenyra or Alicent are feminist characters. Even Rhaenyra rejected the claims of female heiresses in the crownlands in favour of male claimants.

Before I delve into some examples, I want to make it clear that I’m not calling Rhaenyra a feminist. No ASOIAF female character can be a feminist because most of them are highborn women who derive power from being nobility and because feminism as an ideology didn’t exist during Medieval European feudalism. This doesn’t mean that the themes they represent aren’t feminist. Characters are vehicles for social commentary, cultural arguments, and thematic excavations of what the author is trying to point or problematize. In this sense, every ASOIAF female character who occupies a relatively chunky portion of the story has feminist themes in her narrative, and can be read through, and indeed should be read through, a feminist lens. Their stories are feminist because they deal with gendered violence, women in politics, and patriarchy at large. Thus, if I say that Cersei’s arc is feminist, obviously I do not mean that Cersei herself is a feminist. That would be ludicrous, because Cersei hates women and is as anti-feminist as one could get. However, the depiction of female trauma, surviving abuse, and how women approach their trauma differently (and not all end up being the kind of “good victim” that society wants to see) are important feminist themes in her arc. The same as I believe Clytemnestra is a vehicle for feminist explorations of misogyny in ancient Greek religion and society as well as a reflection of the misogyny of the classics themselves, I believe Rhaenyra is a feminist character for what she represents broadly and not for her actual values. 

The point of this post in particular is to demonstrate that there is a gendered divide in how the current timeline ASOIAF characters view Rhaenyra. As I pointed out, Arianne explicitly identifies Rhaenyra as precedent for independent female ruling in Westeros (even though Rhaenyra only ruled for a short time), while Stannis thinks Rhaenyra was a Usurper and buys the biased, male-centric, Maester viewpoint of Westerosi History. This is deliberate upon the part of the author. Again, Rhaenyra herself is not a feminist. She’s not a revolutionary woman in the slightest. But her story is feminist because it represents what happens to even the most privileged woman in the realm when she tries to live her life and assert her rights: she’s routinely called a whore or slut (especially by her half-brothers Aegon and Aemond), has her legitimacy questioned simply because of her motherhood (her three sons, Joffrey, Lucerys, Jaecerys), she’s sexually liberal (like many men, but men are allowed to be sexually liberal without being punished––see Aegon II, Aegon IV, Robert Baratheon), loses four of her children, becomes increasingly isolated and paranoid, and dies at the young age of 33 when her brother feeds her to a dragon. 

It’s not a coincidence that after the Dance, not only do the dragons die out, not only does magic sputter to a near standstill, but Targaryen women go from having some political power to being abused, sidelined, raped, treated nothing more as pawns to be married off, deriving their power mostly from marriage, and completely brutalized. Baelor Breakspear imprisons his sisters Daena, Rhaena, and Elaena in the Maidenvault because he views them as sinful. This is an assertion of Andal, feudalist, Faith-driven, religious patriarchy. Naerys is in love with her brother Aemon but is forced to marry Aegon IV and become his queen, and stand helpless as he routinely cheats on her. She asks him if they can live as mere brother and sister, but Aegon replies that for two Targaryens, that means they must be in a sexual relationship, a clear implication that Aegon was raping her. She’s a pious and demure woman who resigns herself to her lot. Daeron II marries off his sister Daenerys to Maron Martell despite the fact that she loved her brother Daemon Blackfyre (and this is one of the causes of the Blackfyre Rebellion). And while the marriage was good for the Realm because it brought Dorne peacefully into the fold, and we have an iconic moment of Princess Daenerys opening the Water Gardens of Sunspear to lowborn children (starting a tradition that has lasted to the current timeline), it’s sad that a Targaryen woman has to give up her happiness for her family and for the Realm, and can’t resist it. (Most people also neglect to mention that Maron was 30 when he married 15-year-old Princess Daenerys). Most tragic is Rhaella Targaryen, forced to marry Aerys II. She’s raped repeatedly and suffers multiple miscarriages. You then get to Daenerys Stormborn, who at the start of the series is sold as a bridal slave to 30-year-old Khal Drogo, who had an impoverished and unstable childhood with no home or security or safety, and an abusive, violent brother as her only guardian. 

Targaryen women did suffer before the Dance. I’m not saying that Targaryen men were feminist allies by any means. But Targaryen women were much more powerful before the Dance. To go from Rhaenys and Visenya the Conquerors to what happens to Naerys, Dany, Rhaella, the Maidens in the Maidenvault, is a tragedy borne of Targaryen assimilation into Andal culture/the Faith. You rightfully pointed out Jaehaerys passed over Rhaenys in the succession. That act was actually the seed for the Dance itself. Jaehaerys assimilated fully into the Faith and created the Doctrine of Exceptionalism so that Targaryens could fully convert to the Faith without their incestuous practices being a barrier to that conversion. And Jaehaerys isn’t the only Targaryen man to betray Targaryen women––Aegon II, Aegon IV, Aerys II are all clear examples of what happens to Targaryens when their men abuse and betray their women: the House and Dynasty itself suffer. 

While Visenya wasn’t Aerion’s heir, Rhaenys and Visenya were Aegon’s equals and actually ruled: 

Though none doubted that Aegon Targaryen was the final authority in all matters relating to the governance of the realm, his sisters Visenya and Rhaenys remained his partners in power throughout his reign. Save perhaps for Good Queen Alysanne, the wife of King Jaehaerys I, no other queen in the history of the Seven Kingdoms ever exercised as much influence over policy as the Dragon’s sisters. It was the king’s custom to bring one of his queens with him wherever he traveled, whilst the other remained at Dragonstone or King’s Landing, oft as not seated on the Iron Throne, ruling on whatever matters came before her.

Despite Jaehaerys’ misogyny, Alysanne herself was very active in creating and implementing policy: 

A few days later, the queen convened her women’s court in Lord Manderly’s own hall, a thing hitherto unheard of in the North, and more than two hundred women and girls gathered to share their thoughts, concerns, and grievances with Her Grace.
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“Above all else, a queen must know how to listen,” Alysanne Targaryen often said. At Castle Black, she proved those words. She listened, she heard, and she won the eternal devotion of the men of the Night’s Watch by her actions. She understood the need for a castle between Snowgate and Icemark, she told Lord Burley, but the Nightfort was crumbling, overlarge, and surely ruinous to heat. The Watch should abandon it, she said, and build a smaller castle farther to the east. Lord Burley could not disagree…but the Night’s Watch lacked the coin to build new castles, he said. Alysanne had anticipated that objection. She would pay for the castle herself, she told the Lord Commander, and pledged her jewels to cover the cost. “I have a good many jewels,” she said.” It would take eight years to raise the new castle, which would bear the name of Deep Lake. Outside its main hall, a statue of Alysanne Targaryen stands to this very day. The Nightfort was abandoned even before Deep Lake was completed, as the queen had wished. Lord Commander Burley also renamed Snowgate castle in her honor, as Queensgate. Queen Alysanne also wished to listen to the women of the North. When Lord Burley explained that there were no women on the Wall, she persisted…until finally, with great reluctance, he had her escorted to a village south of the Wall that the black brothers called Mole’s Town. She would find women there, his lordship said, though most of them would be harlots. The men of the Night’s Watch took no wives, he explained, but they remained men all the same, and some felt certain needs. Queen Alysanne said she did not care, and so it came to pass that she held her women’s court amongst the whores and strumpets of Mole’s Town…and there heard certain tales that would change the Seven Kingdoms forever.
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And so it came to pass that the second of what the smallfolk named Queen Alysanne’s Laws was enacted: the abolition of the lord’s ancient right to the first night. Henceforth, it was decreed, a bride’s maidenhead would belong only to her husband, whether joined before a septon or a heart tree, and any man, be he lord or peasant, who took her on her wedding night or any other night would be guilty of the crime of rape.

I am not calling Alysanne a feminist or a revolutionary, but the power she wields to help enact policies for women is certainly unparalleled when compared to previous Targaryen queens (save for Rhaenys and Visenya) and for Queens that come after her. She convenes women’s councils, holds town hall sessions just for women to hear their grievances, revitalizes the Night’s Watch, listens to the stories and complaints of the women who live near the Watch (women who are prostituted, trafficked, otherwise relatively ignored by the entire Realm), and abolishes the Lord’s Right of First Night, criminalizing it as rape (which, again, may not seem very shocking or subversive by modern standards, but for feudalist standards it was progress). And she abolished it after listening to women of all statuses and classes and hearing their burdens. Compare this to Cersei as Queen Consort, or Arianne as Princess of Dorne, or Asha as Princess of the Iron Islands––are they able to wield even this much power? Are they able to sway and create policy like this? 

That Rhaenys could be considered a successor to Jaehaerys is because Valyrians obviously had a policy of female succession. As did the Rhoynish (which is why Dorne permits female succession). It’s not a perfect policy because women are still passed over in the succession or marginalized. This is reflected in Arianne’s arc. Despite the fact that she’s her father’s heir, he doesn’t bother to train her the way he trains Quentyn and leaves her in the dark about his plans even until she turns 24 (and only lets her in on his plans after she stages a failed, disastrous coup). Yet the tragedy of a Targaryen woman being denied her right to succession doesn’t start with Rhaenys, it starts with Rhaena the Black Bride. She would have been her father Aenys’ heir, indeed was his legitimate heir, and married her brother Aegon, but her uncle Maegor, behind her in succession, killed Aegon and forcibly took her as his wife. He married her specifically to unite their claims and prevent wars of succession; thus he was only able to legitimize his claim by marrying her. He derived his claim to the Throne from marrying her, in essence. Furthermore, Maegor wanted to name Rhaena’s daughter Aerea as his heir.  He even disinherited Rhaena’s younger brother, Jaehaerys, to solidify his decision. When Maegor died and the question of succession came up again, Rhaena was one of the suggested successors, and as were her daughters, Aerea and Rhaella. Yet they were passed over for Jaehaerys. 

Even after the Dance, Baela and Rhaena of Pentos are suggested as successors to the Throne but the Maesters use their gender and the Dance as proof that they shouldn’t succed to the Throne. 

We see here a theme intertwined between Rhaena the Black Bride, Baela and Rhaena the Dragon Twins, Rhaenys the Queen who Never Was, Rhaenyra, and Aerea and Rhaella Targaryen: each of them are considered and suggested as legitimate candidates of independent succession to the Throne, each of them would have been legitimate independent female rulers, and yet each of them are betrayed by other Targaryens, especially Targaryen men, who assimilate to the Andal culture and thus prioritize male succession over female succession, no matter age or question of legitimacy. Andal culture and the Faith assert that only men can succeed the throne. By passing over these women, all suggested as legitimate heirs to the Throne, to give the throne to men, Targaryen men and even the women who aided them (like Alysanne, unfortunately, who did have a hand in her sister Rhaena being passed over in the line of succession) spelled ruin for their house. Assimilating into Andal culture and violating their own precedent of female ruling was terrible for the Targaryens. 

So when I say that there was precedent among the Targaryens for female succession, this is what I’m referring to. No Andal or First Men descended house would ever consider listing women as independent, legitimate successors to the Throne, unless literally every other potential male heir was dead or unfit to be heir. Look at Cersei, or Catelyn Stark, or other non-Targaryen women who have political power as some kind of ruler––do they have the power to create policies the way Alysanne, Rhaenys and Visenya, did? Asha tries to fight for the Seastone Chair, but she is resoundingly defeated. by her uncle Euron who wins the Throne. She is relegated to the side. Princess Nymeria and some of the following Dornish Princesses are really the only other ruling women in Westerosi history who had the kind of power Targaryen women did before the Dance. 

And all of that fades the moment the Dance ends. Not just for Targaryen women, whom as I already explained lose all their power after it. You’ll notice that thereinafter, Targaryen women were only ever Queen/Princess Consorts, never considered as candidates for heirs to the Throne itself. It was also for other women in the Realm. There’s a reason Tywin and Doran can get away with not educating Cersei and Arianne, their eldest children, why no matter how beloved or popular Asha is or how good a leader she is she can’t succeed to the Seastone chair, why the vast majority of the Queens and princesses in the current timeline series only derive their power from marriage or motherhood (Daenerys Stormborn is a significant exception to this), why even the wives of Lord Paramounts aren’t seen being involved in policymaking to the extent that their husbands are. 

We thus go back to the point of the original post: Rhaenyra is not a feminist, or subversive, or progressive. Her story, however, is all of those things, and what it represents to the women of the Realm in the current timeline can be seen through Arianne citing her as precedent for wanting to crown Myrcella. 

(I know that Stannis names Shireen his heir, which is a significant exception to all of this, especially considering that Stannis himself is very misogynistic, but he names her heir because he has no other children, so this goes back to the poin that non-Targaryen/Martell houses were not naming women their heirs unless there were literally no men available). 

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In short, if women are defending Rhaenyra’s claim, viewing her as a rightful Queen who was usurped and betrayed, and seeing her as precedent for installing a Queen Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms, and men dismiss her claim and legitimacy and view her as a traitor, then it doesn’t matter how ruthless or morally gray you think Rhaenyra “objectively” is or how bad you feel for Alicent or how resentful you are of a supposed “bias for Targaryens” in the text. These are not Targaryen characters, and yet even they have an extremely marked difference in how they discuss Rhaenyra and use her as justification for their own schemes. The events of history inform the political ideologies of all the characters. Catelyn, for example, uses the Blackfyre Rebellions as proof that bastard blood is treacherous, such that she warns Robb not to make Jon his heir. Naturally this is another example that follows suit, of two characters entangled with the political plotline using the history of Westeros to justify their ideology or schemes. If Alicent was meant to be read as a feminist or sympathetic character in the books, then this marked difference wouldn’t be so stark or clear and Arianne likely wouldn’t see the situation in the frame that she does. Yet it’s not a coincidence that we see a reflection of these historical events in the main timeline of ASOIAF; women throughout the main timeline struggle with their place in politics, most prominently reflected in Dany’s arc, Cersei’s arc (as similar to Alicent as she is, funnily enough), Asha’s arc, and Arianne’s arc, but even in Melisandre, Arya, Catelyn, Sansa, and Brienne’s arcs, each dealing with the question of gender in politics in some way.
No ASOIAF female character can be a feminist because most of them are highborn women who derive power from being nobility and because feminism as an ideology didn’t exist during Medieval European feudalism. This doesn’t mean that the themes they represent aren’t feminist. Characters are vehicles for social commentary, cultural arguments, and thematic excavations of what the author is trying to point or problematize. In this sense, every ASOIAF female character who occupies a relatively chunky portion of the story has feminist themes in her narrative, and can be read through, and indeed should be read through, a feminist lens. Their stories are feminist because they deal with gendered violence, women in politics, and patriarchy at large.
It’s not a coincidence that after the Dance, not only do the dragons die out, not only does magic sputter to a near standstill, but Targaryen women go from having some political power to being abused, sidelined, raped, treated nothing more as pawns to be married off, deriving their power mostly from marriage, and completely brutalized.
Yet the tragedy of a Targaryen woman being denied her right to succession doesn’t start with Rhaenys, it starts with Rhaena the Black Bride. She would have been her father Aenys’ heir, indeed was his legitimate heir, and married her brother Aegon, but her uncle Maegor, behind her in succession, killed Aegon and forcibly took her as his wife. He married her specifically to unite their claims and prevent wars of succession; thus he was only able to legitimize his claim by marrying her. He derived his claim to the Throne from marrying her, in essence. Furthermore, Maegor wanted to name Rhaena’s daughter Aerea as his heir.  He even disinherited Rhaena’s younger brother, Jaehaerys, to solidify his decision. When Maegor died and the question of succession came up again, Rhaena was one of the suggested successors, and as were her daughters, Aerea and Rhaella. Yet they were passed over for Jaehaerys.
Even after the Dance, Baela and Rhaena of Pentos are suggested as successors to the Throne but the Maesters use their gender and the Dance as proof that they shouldn’t succed to the Throne.
We see here a theme intertwined between Rhaena the Black Bride, Baela and Rhaena the Dragon Twins, Rhaenys the Queen who Never Was, Rhaenyra, and Aerea and Rhaella Targaryen: each of them are considered and suggested as legitimate candidates of independent succession to the Throne, each of them would have been legitimate independent female rulers, and yet each of them are betrayed by other Targaryens, especially Targaryen men, who assimilate to the Andal culture and thus prioritize male succession over female succession, no matter age or question of legitimacy. Andal culture and the Faith assert that only men can succeed the throne. By passing over these women, all suggested as legitimate heirs to the Throne, to give the throne to men, Targaryen men and even the women who aided them (like Alysanne, unfortunately, who did have a hand in her sister Rhaena being passed over in the line of succession) spelled ruin for their house. Assimilating into Andal culture and violating their own precedent of female ruling was terrible for the Targaryens.
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The War of the Five Kings was another war that was extremely devastating to the realm and the common people. One could also say that the audience should not pick sides in that conflict because the common people suffered so much. But I hardly hear anyone saying that. Then those same people who pick sides in the War of the Five Kings, rooting for either Stannis or Robb, say that we shouldn’t pick sides in The Dance of the Dragons because so many commoners suffer and die. They also say that the point of the conflict is to show how “evil” the Targaryens are, and how monarchy is bad.

Yet they rooted for Stannis trying to get the iron throne for himself and waging war to do it, and I never heard them calling monarchy bad then. The War of the Five Kings was a war that was started perfectly without the Targaryens help, given how in that point in time, the Targs were an exiled house and the Baratheon/Lannisters were in power. So these people acting like the Targaryens invented war and monarchy is ridiculous. Before the Targaryens there were literally seven monarchies who were constantly warring. So it’s ridiculous that these people act like the Targaryens are the sole problem because they created the iron throne. If the iron throne didn’t exist, the seven kingdoms would still have their own monarchies and the common people would still suffer. The Targaryens are not heroes but they aren’t villains either. They are just like any other noble house, trying to keep their family in power.

So in short, people who claim to be neutral in the House of the Dragon fandom are usually big hypocrites and secret misogynists, who only say that war and monarchy is bad because Rhaenyra is a woman waging war for the throne, but at the same time rooted for Stannis waging war for the throne and had no problem with his atrocities.

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