editorialized torpedo

That's what I've bascially been saying in past, earlier posts like THIS and THIS (scroll to "Why I Think None of the "Accomplishments" or Any of the Cool!Alicent Moments of the Show Really Matter") and THIS about show!Alicent.

I've talked about Rhaenys and Rhaenyra/Rhaenys' characterization already HERE, HERE, and pessimisticpigeonsworld's post HERE goes exactly into what you're talking about, anon, when you say HotD fails to show the hints or suggestions of female unity/companionships.

I agree, basically. They dislike Rhaenyra most of all, in a word. Green stans and many neutrals refuse to reckon with all the obvious signs that their chosen people were not those who GRRM favored nor was even "fair" towards in accordance to "two sides bad, not about misogyny" shtick.

So they're floundering and denying or have never read ther text: Baela, Rhaena-Jeyne Arryn, the fact that the little women who are in the green side or are greens themselves are not real actors during the war and really it's only alicent....and that there is a reason for that; they can't point out impressive F&B Dance women on the green side other then Alicent. Which is partly why they ride for her so much. As for the writing, I think it's a mixture of ignorance and deliberate isolation, because they wanted to present an all-suffering kind of heroine for people to like or sympathize with her enough. Because that's the sort of society we are in.

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Yeah, this seems the most likely one, but who knows, maybe Condal will work out of spite (since I know he [or whatever team he's giving instructions to] loves to stoke out fandoms or review them for the tea so he can attmept to stop burning when he tries to brew some stuff).

A) He really should think of how this show is supposed to end or have a strong choice so he can orient the entire show around said end...this is another indication of how/why the show is as weirdly written and outright badly-written it is. He just doesn't seem to know or take confidence in what he's writing and directing the writing of and partly bec he insists on treating it like a marketing project. He writes towards what people like and what will get them to watch instead of writing a story.

B) I'm not sure why I or the audience has to feel like this ignorance of an end will be like is copacetic thing, esp when it's not supposed to be a long prequel show. And I know very well that it could not end with a marriage or wedding at all; people are speculating precisely bec this guy doesn't know his onw ending AND the show has been a cacophony of bad decisions that have befuddled audiences in whether its inconsistencies of plot and character and whole events were intentionla for later plot twists, "complexity", or just bad writing.

How would we see Lucemond in any form in the show, though, when they don't do flashbacks (unfortunately) and Lucerys is dead? If anyone is using AI to make Lucemond content, then it'd more likely be fans, not the production. Then we'd go after fans for abusing the actors' images, since one doesn't need AI to recreate just photos.

I'm assuming you mean they'd produce video content of Lucemond by using actors as themselves out in the "wild"?

Well, there has been "crying" about Rhaenys and Aegon. For years. You are right there hasn't really been a movement (what else can I call this? idk) for a character to not get killed on the basis of not wanting a child to die when they do die in the orig series for a narrative purpose.

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I think this is a good comparative analysis, too. I've watched Bridgerton and I've watched Queen Charlotte despite the weird thing it has about race--even on the premise of racism being "done" when these are not dealing with unreal characters, in a world where Queen Victoria doesn't exist, apparently colonization isn't happening?hmmm--and can confirm that they manage to write women pretty well and QC is where they shined.

I wouldn't say I'm a part of the fandom, because I don't engage with its fans at all. Like nothing.

Spending more time online, I have come to the conclusion that I prefer ships that do, could or have a good argument for how it could happen within the original story's lore, circumstances, and structure. That might sound either boring or narrowminded and harsh, but I just don't have the tolerance for some ships when they revamp the orig character(s) entirely or even oppositional to what they would/could do in canon. Plausibility, basically, is everything to me. Hence another reason why I dislike HotD. Lucemond is not a ship I've ever explored, so I am indifferent towards it other than not seeing how I could like it bc these two could never like each other, much less be intimate.

Not that you are weird for not wanting to ship a character that has the likeness of a child with another character witht eh likeness of an adult, but (unfortunately) ASoIaF fandom is not made up of only adults, either, anon. Again, I am ignorant of Lucemond and its shippers, but is it possible that a fraction of its shippers are also underage? I suppose the likenesses of the actors is enough for people, but another air-cleaning moment. At the same time, I think Lucemond shippers mostly take the show at face value when they ship them and thus they ship a canonical teen with another canonical teen--Luke (not the actor, though he is too, but I am talking abt the character) is 14 and Aemond is 16 as Condal/the writers aged them by the time of S1E8-10 (again, face value!). However, it can be tough to see the casting choices impose a near 30 yr old actor to play a 16-19 yr old in a show/film. I think this is an effect from weird Hollywood practices, too.

I also never really got using actor's likenesses or ages as if said actors were those characters, or really make as if the actor's actual ages and appearances equaled their HotD universe/in-world likenesses instead of incidences of casting and makeup decisions. Once you see the HotD producers didn't want to at least add purple eyes post-production and in the editing--but they will add unnecessary and nonsensical scenes--you have to level the actor's appearances as likely more incidental than show!"canon" are an important part of the story itself. Of course you can like said likenesses and use them for art and stuff or imagine such as having their actors' likenesses bc these actors' likenesses are how you get any likeness for a character in the show, but the reason why you have different eye colors amongst a set of siblings when the orig story itself writes against such (example, Rhaenys' black hair is gone bc they didn't give Targs purple eyes), is not always bc the casters and writers knew such happened in the orig story or to really further their own story or add some depth, but bc of costs and convenience and acting ability or nepotism.

It's an odd one. As odd as Aegon and Rhaenyra, and like Helaemond needing one or both characters to be totally revamped to make sense. Which means I'm not all that interested. The ENITRE Dance would have to be done different or not exist at all, which is sometimes not that bad for a fic where we're pretending Dany doesn't appear for some reason and we're in self-indulgence mode.

Laena, Laenor, Baela, and Rhaena are all already "mixed" race, though. It's simply that that Baela (both her actors) are dark skinned. Two different things that don't necessarily always have a causal relationship.

HotD!Daenaera has little hope to be 100% Black or darkskinned, since, as you mention a "white mother"--canonically her mother was a Harte. If they want Daenaera to have two Black parents--or especially be darkskinned--they need to make the Harte house another Black house in Westeros OR make them like a dark skinned SouthEast/West however Asian House. If they care more about internal consistency. If not, look below.

She definitely shouldn't be white or have two "white" parents, that's true. And I can see Ryan try to use a fandom argument in a situation where it doesn't fit or doesn't backfire on him, like he tried to excuse the choice of suing Black actors to show how "obvious" Rhaenyra's "infidelity" was and how their boys were "obviously" not trueborn as if that were ever the thing we needed to emphasize as an enthical consideration in the midst of all we knew about Rhaenyra's limitations. He could have just said that these actors were right for the job and left it at that, bc things were a little weird already considering how dark Baela was (having a "white" dad and "white" grandmother) and ask the audience to do as audiences have done for plays for years for the sake of story: suspend disbelief. Better than re-perpetuating racism and sexism.

I mean...maybe I'm being too ugh when I say this, but just because there's a dildo in this straight-led man's room, doesn't mean he's queer or questioning. the dildo could be for any woman he grabs consensually or wit money, to assault women with, or a way to piss off his parent for attention. From what I've heard, some st-men just want to direct other men's pain/pleasure to feel in control, even direct a 3rd party for that.

He seems like a dude who'd not experiment for fear of losing his masculinity card because he already feels so inadequate.