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It’s so embarrassing for Daenerys’ haters that the only Hugo Award GRRM has won for ASOIAF is for his Daenerys centric novellas. The Starks have 6 POV characters and 162 chapters, and yet “the heart of the story” couldn’t win GRRM what Daenerys has. Same for the Lannisters (3 POV characters, 78 chapters) and the Greyjoys (4 POV characters, 26 chapters).

Tee hee. I imagine that Dany's chapters supplied that wonder, heart, tragedy, etc. as well as thrills that other chapters don't have as much. It must be so embarrassing to not see which character pays in GRRM's bills and keep his beard clean.

A lot of people might counter with Dany being the only Targ left and needing the "extra" stuff about her family bc they're all dead, whereas the others' families continue to actively move the narrative forward. Honey, Dany's chapters has some of the most poignant and intense political intrigue of the entire series! Magical, too,, and the magic adds/shapes the story alongside Bran's. In political intrigue, only the Lannisters and Ironborn Greyjoys really are coming close to Dany.

Or that Dany's family were the ruling family and that it'd only make sense to write thema all up bc if you do, you inevitably explain the rest of Westeros...um, we still only got details about non Targ houses when they were connected to Targs intimately! And all really to center her!

Whatever, Dany herself is defined by her intuitive beauty. Haters can die mad.

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Is George had interview on AI topic or even talk about them in general? asoiaf/got/hotd got massive AI generate image, videos as their content even people making money out of this

Next year we probably got an adaptation from his book generate by AI and it's scary! if he dislikes fanfiction so much I don't know how much he would despise this thing, Linda Antonsson even using Ai picture on her wiki! that even fans start to draw those side forgotten characters so that Ai image got remove from the website.

I don't go to wherever Linda is, so I can't confirm she uses ai art as her social media cover or what have you. I also don't know if GRRM has ever spoken about ai "fanart". I do know that writers tend to be less stringent about fanart (this was before the rise of ai) than fanfiction bc fanfiction is an investment of rewriting or tweaking or creating something newish from their original work and those authors believed that was a copyright violation. Anne Rice infamously went after fanfic writers to the point that there were none put on the usual platforms until after she died; GRRM has never gone to that extent, but neither do I know if he ever changed his views.

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Another New GRRM Interview (Re: future of the series/unanswered mysteries)

source: (x)

In the last Jon Snow chapter  from ADWD, for the first time there’s a temporary ellipsis in the story of events. Is that a deception for the reader?

Oh, I don’t think is the first time, I’ve done it plenty! (laughs) There are a lot of conversations we didn’t get to listen (laughs). Anyway, it is uncovered a few minutes later in a more dramatic way. Jon gives this great speech  in front of everyone explaining what Tormund and himself had decided: Jon is going to ride South with his army against Bolton’s bastard and Tormund will command the bulk of the Night’s Watch to Hardhome. That’s what they were discussing. - There must be a trick there, I know (laughs) (laughs) You surely are suspicious (laughs) -When Ned and Robert are discussing the murder of Daenerys in AGOT, Ned says “Why did we rebel against Aerys Targaryen, Robert, if it was not to end the murder of children?”* Aerys committed a lot of atrocities but it is never mentioned again that he killed children. Is it a slip on Ned’s part or is there something we don’t know yet? Well there were times when Aerys ordered to kill children. It is revealed in later books. Just as with Blackwater when they take the city and kill most people including the youngest children of the rebelling Houses, like House Darklyn or House Hollard. I imagine there were several situations when the same thing happened. You slaughter a complete House. You don’t kill the father and let the children grow to avenge later. This becomes an endless circle… Targaryen children were murdered themselves.

How did Ned Stark run into Syrio Forel? Well, I’ve never given it much thought. Ned was searching for a fencing master who could teach Arya, and he knew it couldn’t not be a conventional master at arms or a knight, or the castle master at arms, because he didn’t think his young daughter could handle a broadsword (or maybe longsword) the way man with greater strength in their torso could, so he decided the Braavosi style suited her best. Who was available in the city that might fit the bill? Obviously, somebody had to recommend him to Ned. I believe Syrio must have been in the city at the time, because there wasn’t enough time to send for someone all the way from Braavos. How did Jaqen H’ghar wind up in the dungeons of King’s Landing? Wow, that’s also a mystery (laughs). You really pay attention when you read, don’t you? (laughs) How many theories have you gleaned from these books? (more laughs) Have you settled on whose POV you’ll use for the epilogue of A Dream of Spring? Yes, I made up my mind (laughs).

And is it going to be 7 books? I’m hoping for 7, but I can’t promise anything. Seven is my aim, but I’ve learned how bad I am at estimating. What is the origin behind the Azor Azhai prophecy? The prophecy comes from the countries of the east (my own note: in Spanish it said west, but they acknowledged this was a mistake on the transcriber’s part), it’s not a Westerosi prophecy, you can infer that from the name. Westeros has its own prophecies, different from the one about He Who Was Promised. What was Robert’s reaction to Rhaegar naming Lyanna Queen of Love and Beauty? I can tell you it didn’t quite sit well with him. He should have crowned his own lady. This is gonna be a “keep reading,” but I have to try. Is Coldhands a wight? If so, why isn’t he like the rest of them? Keep reading, (laughs). Are the Faceless Men under contract to kill Dany’s dragons? Not yet (Interviewer: Hmm…) Did Howland Reed stand witness to the promise Ned made to Lyanna? (Silence) No. (Interviewer: Hmm…2) Why are the Others moving south? Well, I don’t know, you should ask the Others, I guess (laughs). Why did man go north? Why are countries invaded and the inhabitants killed? The Others don’t like us that much… In A Feast for Crows and  A Dance With Dragons the POV characters are well spread out from each other. Are they gonna stay that way in Winds of Winter? How much of the sixth book have you written? The idea is for the sixth book to bring the two storylines together. The fourth and fifth book saw them spreading further apart, and I now hope to reunite them in order to have all the characters in a single volume. I have 200 pages of Winds of Winter in their definitive version, and another 200 more that I am revising. They are in an early stage, so they need more work and I need to polish more details until they read the way I want. Bear in mind that the MS of the last book, A Dance With Dragons, had 1,500 pages, so I still have hundreds of pages ahead of me. As soon as I am done with the long tour I hope to go back home, lock myself up, and write like hell. At any rate, let it be clear that the sixth book won’t hit the shelves for a long time. It won’t be out in 2012 or 2013, either. I trust it can be published in 2014. Now, I take all these estimations with a grain of salt, because I’m bad at calculating deadlines and dates. Besides, what worries me is that people value the saga for its literary quality, and not how smoothly each book has been published. What I can assure you of is that I’m doing the best I can within my abilities, I’m working full tilt and I think that’s how I must deal with this book.

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On the ADWD cover for Brazil, I put Daenerys at the top of the stairs of the meereenese pyramid. I had undoubtedly been, unconsciously, influenced by the series. And George told me that Daenerys wants equality for everyone, she wants to be at the same level as her people, so I had her climb down to keep it consistent” - Marc Simonetti

Here you can see the original one and other asoiaf art he drew

George told me that Daenerys wants equality for everyone, she wants to be at the same level as her people.”

Louder please for the idiot antis in the back!!!!

Such a villain.

Just to clarify:

And there is a reason why this is important, because the thrones and what they symbolize is a running theme with Dany in the books. Even when it “does not befit a queen”, Dany prefers a simple bench over an fantastic throne. She doesn’t act based on what is proper and improper according to society; rather she strives for equality and simplicity. She genuinely wants equality or everyone, even when it reduces her own grandeur. Even when others think that as a queen, she should place herself above her subjects, she does NOT.

There is a reason why her thrones are brought up repeatedly in the books:

Her audience chamber was on the level below, an echoing high-ceilinged room with walls of purple marble. It was a chilly place for all its grandeur. There had been a throne there, a fantastic thing of carved and gilded wood in the shape of a savage harpy. She had taken one long look and commanded it be broken up for firewood. “I will not sit in the harpy’s lap,” she told them. Instead she sat upon a simple ebony bench. It served, though she had heard the Meereenese muttering that it did not befit a queen. ASOS
Daenerys Targaryen had preferred to hold court from a bench of polished ebony, smooth and simple, covered with the cushions that Ser Barristan had found to make her more comfortable. King Hizdahr had replaced the bench with two imposing thrones of gilded wood, their tall backs carved into the shape of dragons. The king seated himself in the right-hand throne with a golden crown upon his head and a jeweled sceptre in one pale hand. The second throne remained vacant. ― ADWD 
Hizdahr’s grotesque dragon thrones had been removed at Ser Barristan’s command, but he had not brought back the simple pillowed bench the queen had favored. Instead a large round table had been set up in the center of the hall, with tall chairs all around it where men might sit and talk as peers. ― ADWD
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Can I also add that it’s interesting to note the size of her profile has also reduced with GRRM’s input. Previously, she appears as a large yet distant imposing figure from high on above. And with the revision, she’s brought closer to the ground and appears smaller in stature, more human and therefore more approachable.

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Anonymous asked:

"jaehaera can't die, george himself said.." well… so thanks ryan doesn't seem to do anything george wants from what we've seen so far.. watch them throw a fit if ryan kills this girl

and to be honest I'm 99% sure that's exactly what RC will do, just because of George's tantrum

Where did GRRM even say this and how did he say it? Because Jaehaera dies after the Dance and after she marries Aegon, so GRRM likely meant she can't die yet at this point of time in HotD.

GRRM isn't having any sort of tantrum, either, when he's just saying that he wants the storylines he says are critical--and are critical--need to be written into the show. We're taking the show(s) and any HBO visual adaption too seriously and as if they matter more then the real canon.

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Anonymous asked:

George saying that Jaehaera is Aegon's heir is quite contradictory to what he wrote in the book itself because she was NEVER even seen as a possibility of being heir, perhaps by 1/2 houses that were still supporters of the greens but not by her own father the most important? Aegon was already thinking about the heirs he would have with the Baratheon girl for god sake...

("The Sad Short Reign of Aegon II")

I believe that he uses "heir" in the sense that Jaehaera was the only living candidate to be his heir...but while Aerea and Rhaella were Maegor's true "heir presumptives" (a person entitled to inherit a throne, peerage, or other hereditary honour, but whose position can be displaced by the birth of a person with a better claim to the position in question), Maegor declared them as such and so they were. Aegon never declared or claimed Jaehaera as an heir presumptive at any point in time, and instead, as you say, marriage for male heirs. So she was neither his heir apparent, nor his heir presumptive. And no, just because he said that Jaehaera's children by Aegon III--if allowed--could become inheritors, doesn't mean Jaehaera is a "legally" declared heir just as Henry VII's mother--Margaret Beaufort--wasn't a heir apparent nor an heir presumptive but could birth possible claimants and pass down their "right" through her own lineage.

So if George wants to express that Jaehaera was Aegon's "heir presumptive" or that "heir presumptive" means something a little different in Westeros, then he should have said so in the text somehow. Yes, I'm being firm even with the author of the series, bc this is how lore/fantasy writing works. You need to be consistent and clear for some things if you make statements about how such a detailed world works.

There is still, again, also the possibility that either he forgot or was, again, just trying to express Jaehaera's new only-child status offhandedly.

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In regards to GRRM and Rhaenyra its not that he hates her, its more so the fact he loves Daemon more so half way through the Dance he made it all about his favourite character instead of the ruling Queen fighting for her throne.

That being said however focusing on the people around the monarch rather than the monarch themselves is typical GRRM fashion. Rhaenyra basically got the Robb treatment, Richard Madden’s pretty face gave him extra screen time in GoT but if you actually read the books he’s barely in them.

Lmao yeah you can definitely tell Daemon is his favorite. Though I do really like your idea about the monarch treatment. It's a very interesting pattern GRRM has set up. Though I do think it serves to highlight the differences in his prospective monarch characters.

Daenerys, Jon, Arya, and Bran are all major pov characters who are all going through leadership arcs. They are growing to be great rulers/leaders. This is in stark contrast with Young Griff, who is treated like the other monarchs we've encountered. Hence why he isn't meant to be a future ruler, he is just another in the old cycle of rulers; a cycle that needs to be broken.

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Anonymous asked:

I never held much with slavery […]. You can’t just go… usin’ another kind of people, like they wasn’t people at all. Know what I mean ? Got to end, sooner or later. Better if it ends peaceful, but it’s got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood, you see ? Maybe that’s what them abolitionists been sayin’ all along. You try to be reasonable, that’s only right, but if it don’t work, you got to be ready. Some things is just wrong. They got to be ended.

This is an excerpt from George R. R. Martin’s novel Fevre Dream (1982). The context here is that when Abner Marsh, the book’s protagonist, is first introduced he is against slavery but doesn’t do anything to stop it. After the events of the novel, he comes to empathize with the slaves and radically changes his stance. Sometimes, Fire and Blood isn’t such a bad thing. 

The only morally correct thing that Daenerys should have done is kill ALL the masters. Every single one of them. It is understandable of course why she wanted to kill as few people as possible. She has a gentle, merciful and compassionate heart and I believe she will learn how to balance her heart with the harsh but necessary choices she will have to make in the future.

finitefall/the former theblacqveen has a post saying exactly this HERE.

Agreed!

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“From my mother’s stories, I always had this kind of sense that I was like disinherited royalty. Here was this dock that my great-grandfather built - it wasn’t ours anymore. Here was this house that my mother had been born in - we didn’t own this house anymore. We didn’t own any house, we had an apartment. So it was like, ugh, I came from greatness - like Dany! And I will take back what is mine with Fire and Blood! I think on some level, that must’ve gotten to me.” —George R. R. Martin

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