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@holyfunnyhistoryherring

is it not enough to just vibe
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aro-bot

idk can we stop…treating a.ce disc.ourse like it’s some haha funney cringe compilation or whatever the fuck because it fucking destroyed the entire ace and aro communities. there is no solid aspec community on tumblr anymore (which was by far the biggest number of aspec ppl). exclusionists took our community and fucking smashed it to pieces and y'all treat it as this fucking stupid joke when they traumatized, gaslit, and abused an entire group of queer people back into the closet. fuck every single person who doesn’t take that seriously.

My personal experience is just that, but it’s really indicative that I have watched almost every single ace and aro person I know, irl and online, actively recloset themselves as a direct result of the consequences of The Disc Horse™

I watched irl queer groups disintegrate bc a few ppl who got into leadership positions used that to make the space hostile towards ace ppl (among others as well), saw friends go from being loud and proud aces n aros to actively avoiding any mention of it and letting ppl assume their sexuality. I myself, having been IDing as ace for 10 years at least, have in the past couple since this whole “"discourse”“ came into being, actively and intentionally stopped telling anyone at all that I’m ace. To put that in some kind of perspective, I am incredibly out as trans and will actively out myself pretty constantly except to total strangers I will never see again. I feel safer telling ppl I’m trans than ace. Especially in queer spaces. It’s fucked me up so much I didn’t even quite grasp how much but today my therapist asked me for the first time about like romantic relationships and I physically could not say I am aro and ace. Completely incapable, utterly frozen, and I just kinda let her believe what she will. Ironically the fact that I’ve gone from being willing and ready to tell ppl I’m ace as just another facet of myself to entirely unable and unsolicited to tell anyone, is probably a thing one might want to talk w one’s therapist about.

This has really fucked not just the community at large but fucked up individual ace ppl in so many ways. It’s not something “funny” or remotely harmless, it’s absolutely devastated us.

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swampgallows

for people in the notes looking for “elder” aces, i just wanna say that i’m 28 years old and am also desperately searching for that representation. i first found out about asexuality through tumblr when i was 21 and started identifying as asexual when i was 21-22 (around 2012). i’ve sought other online ace communities but nothing compared to tumblr. i mean, props to aven for existing as a repository of resources but in terms of just chatting with other aces “in the wild” as it were, tumblr was the perfect place.

but then this fucking shit happened. around 2015 is when it really kicked into high gear. “discoursers” or exclusionists or aphobes or however you want to refer to them consider asexuality to be a joke and that everyone who identifies as ace is a cringey cishet college-aged white girl who loves dr who. recycled biphobia, homophobia, and even terf rhetoric made its way into the mainstream tumblr conscious by reframing the arguments to target ace people (you’re only X because you’re ugly/can’t get laid; you aren’t part of the community if your partner is of a different gender; maybe something happened to you to make you this way; have you had your hormones checked?; by accepting this identity you are allowing the oppressor to infiltrate our spaces; etc.). you know, in case you think this is just about “snick snack” memes.

this has alienated ace people of color, who already struggle with desexualization/hypersexualization, disabled aces, ace survivors, trans aces, mentally ill aces, neurodiverse/AUTISTIC ACES (you guys get REAL fuckin nervous when i highlight that the majority of your jeering about aces’ perceived awkwardness, missed social cues, infantilization/dehumanization, or “unfuckability”/“cringey-ness” are repackaged ableism, especially considering that a good percentage of the ace community is also autistic), and both young AND older aces. 

younger people are being discouraged from exploring the possibility of being asexual by exclusionists for reasons that vary from internalized homophobia to asexuality being a side effect of SSRIs. they are being told that they are “actually” something other than what they say they are, or that they are broken, or that they’re too young to know, or that our ace identity is simultaneously something that must be excruciatingly examined to determine its “cause” yet so irrelevant that it’s unworthy of discussion or representation—”nobody cares that you don’t want to have sex”. i WISH i had known about asexuality as a teenager, as a kid. I wish i had saved myself from so much grief, abuse, pain, and corrective rape by not subjecting myself to experiences that i hoped would “fix” me. 

and older people like me, who in the grand scheme of things is uhhh really not that much older than the majority of tumblr, are ridiculed for having a presence on tumblr in general, let alone as an asexual person. aces over 30? 40? 50? unicorns. conjured rhetoric. people straight-up don’t believe they exist. people ten years my junior attempt to deny and erase the lived history of aces by saying asexuality was “invented” only ten years ago. i have been terrified of attempting to enter Q* spaces irl because i have heard from even my IRL gay friends that aces do not belong, that “it’s not important enough to form an identity around”, that we are not oppressed enough or we just desperately want to be oppressed. 

i have only heard in passing of people much older than i am who are ace. i have absolutely zero examples to turn to of people like me continuing to live a long life or any evidence that i am worth loving unless i become a parent, which i don’t want to do. when you’re a teenager there’s more discussion about sexual boundaries, but what about dating in my 30s? what adult is going to be satisfied knowing i can never validate their sexual attraction, unless they were ace like me (less than 1% of the population)? am i forced to be alone forever? you can imagine how bleak my future feels. 

it pisses me off that i’m seen as a curmudgeon who “just doesn’t get the young people’s humor” when i have to beg people that i consider friends, for the eight billionth time, to stop making/reblogging jokes about how “cringey” aces are or are tongue-in-cheek declaring themselves to be aphobes, and then those people try to assuage me with respectability politics about how it’s about “THOSE” aces on tumblr and not, yknow, me, who is “one of the good ones”. and since the jokes themselves are so juvenile, it further compounds on the poor social graces and stoicism assumed of asexual people if I’m getting upset over ace war criminal moodboards or whatever the fuck. EVERY time i post about asexual ANYTHING on tumblr, to this day, i lose followers. without fail. people dont bat a lash when i spam 20 untagged posts in a row about a fandom they dont care about but i post two positive words about asexuality and theyre gone.

the environment promoted on tumblr condemns asexuality as a social deficit, as an attack on other Q* identities, as a subject of derision and embarrassment, as an identity lacking in “woke” capital, and makes every effort to expunge us from communities we have already belonged to in favor of making our own while also actively seeking out and dismantling those communities. if tumblr really is in its last days, i sincerely hope that these awful practices will die with it. 

this picture was taken in 1973, asexuality has been part of the lgbt+ community longer than you’ve been alive.

The first mentions of asexuality as an orientation are from a leaflet published in 1896 and the X on the Kinsey Scale for non-sexual was added in 1948. It was not invented by white teenage old girls on Tumblr.

ASEXUALITY WAS NOT INVENTED BY TEENAGE GIRLS ON TUMBLR.

For more information on sexual history read this http://wiki.asexuality.org/Asexual_history

Before aromanticism was used as a term there was non-limerant. Limerance described romantic attraction and so a non-linemerant person didn’t experience romantic attraction. It has a lot of similarities to aromanticism and it’s first documented appearance was in a book called ‘love and limerance’ published in 1979.

Aromanticism was also not invented by white girls on tumblr.

AROMANTICISM WAS NOT INVENTED BY WHITE GIRLS ON TUMBLR.

Tumblr might be the first place you saw these terms and where they are most used but the orientations were not invented here maybe the words were first used by a lot of people on here but the orientations not.

(Image transcription: The sign behind them reads: “YEA - IT’S A HEAVY TRIP. BUT! This is a chance to CHOOSE YOUR OWN LABEL instead of having someone else do it for you: straight, asexual, lesbian, bisexual, anti-label, dyke separatist, ?, lesbian feminist, [something partially obscured but i think it might say anti-sexual], or whatever”)

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lovinnelily

When I saw the picture I just started crying and what came after it… I cant, is like someone put a hand on my shoulder and said “is okay to exist” and I’m sobbing right now.

I did know I needed this. But I never thought it would get me to tears. I never knew I needed it for me, to show to myself, to tell me it’s fine to be me.

I can’t stop crying, fuck.

💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

This is why representation is important. This is why visibility is important.

Sometimes I see exclusionists shooting their mouths off about how the way you can tell aces aren’t oppressed is that our main need is for representation, that our positivity posts are about being valid.

And I’m just like… you have maybe temporarily forgotten what it is like to not see yourself reflected anywhere?? You maybe have been lucky enough to find people like you in history and in media before you came out?? Perhaps you are blissfully unaware that if you don’t have that kind of representation, the only messages you get are that you are a shitty gross broken person that doesn’t have any worth????? Possibly you do not know the effect of hearing that from both the straight and the “LGBT” communities at once??

I don’t know if anybody has studied this (I’m gonna find out!) but I would bet a lot of money that that stuff has a huge impact on health, and that it’s a big part of the reason that m-spec and a-spec people (including aros) have such incredibly high rates of things like suicidality.

We’re valid. We have worth. We are incredible people, part of incredible communities and cultures and histories. We deserve to exist, and the world is much better off with us.

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vaspider

There were older aces on here. I watched 2 ace folx in their late 30s, one in her early 50s and one in her late 40s get chased off of here by constant harassment. I’m in contact with all 3 on other platforms and have been friends with all of them for 5+ years, so.

One of them specifically came to Tumblr to be a resource for younger aces (the one in her late 40s) and left in horrified disgust over the level of direct, awful harassment she received.

So, yeaaaaaaah, they’re out there, and Tumblr dis.course succeeded in making Tumblr so vile to them that they left.

I also want to point out the exclus also usually have sideblogs for this stuff, so they can choose when they engage in dis.course, but us Aces can’t choose to engage or not engage in it, because we are always Asexual. 

We especially can’t escape when it’s purposefully flooded into our positivity tags. 

So: I am asexual. I hate it when people are actively working to shove us back into the closet and fracture our community when we have been acknowledged as existing since ancient times, and when we have had a term to name ourselves since the 1900s. 

This is our history, we have always been here, we will always be here. 

-FemaleWarrior, She/They 

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sees art with thick smooth line art: ah yes i want my art to look like that
sees art with sketchy thin line art: ah yes i want my art to look like that
sees lineless art: ah yes i want my art to

…… this isn’t my post. i didnt makethis post. why does it say i made this post

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faunlord

not to be boring and solve the fun mystery but it says that bc it’s a “chat” post, not a text post. which used to not include the OP’s username, so tumblr assigned you op I Guess (source: i made this post in 2014)

thank you for giving me custody of this post 🙏 i just picked it up from elementary school and tomorrow it has soccer practice

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hawkpartys

POV you made a popular post about insects

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karthonic

@bogleech Post simulator tbh

[Image: a post that goes

(red square icon) OP, "I love The Animal and really appreciate its contribution to our ecosystem"

(green square icon) dipshit, "uhmmm have you considered that The Animal is gross and disgusting and we should kill it with fire? I think that we should drive it to extinction because I think it's icky :/"

(red square icon) OP, "what is your fucking problem"

(blue square icon) enlightened_dipshit, "wow OP no need to be rude it is perfectly valid opinion to want to drive and entire species to extinction and the fact that you aren't being nice to people talking about how they want to kill something you care about is proof it's YOUR fault that people want to kill The Animal"

/End description.]

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firawren

Which of these would you rather see on your dash?

Hey @staff. This is a perfect example of why collapsed reblogs is such a bad idea. Seeing the full thread, you go like this: 😮 ooh, that's cool 😀 "they're free," hehe! 🤣 "16 cents," perfection!!

I have achieved joy, I feel positive feelings toward Tumblr, I want to engage, I want to stay, my eyeballs land on more ads, you make more money, everyone wins! 🎉

Seeing the collapsed thread, you go like this:

😮 ooh, that's cool 😐 "16 cents"? yes, that's literally what the pic shows, not sure why you felt the need to say that

There is no motivation for me to uncollapse the reblog chain—it looks like a boring conversation about the denominations of coins. And even if I do uncollapse it, you've ruined the joke by showing me the punchline before the setup. I am sad, Tumblr is boring, I go elsewhere to entertain myself, I see less ads, you make less money, everyone loses. 😥

Reblog chains are the best thing about Tumblr. They are your unique super power. They are the thing that makes people screenshot Tumblr and share it around. Why on earth would you kneecap them??

I don't know exactly how you plan to implement this. Give people the option to keep them collapsed if there truly are people who are annoyed by how long they can get (you already have a version of this feature), but don't collapse them for everyone or new users by default. Please. It will make Tumblr so much more boring.

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junkcentral

Also, with how fucked up the app is there is such a high possibility of opening a thread and then when trying to return to the dash the whole thing will unload and you'll end up at the top of your dash again

You know what that means @staff ???

PEOPLE WILL JUST LEAVE

If your app doesn't support this kind of loading/unloading page hopping, don't try to force it!!

LITERALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAID THE EXACT SAME THING IN A POST ABOUT THIS CHANGE HANG ON

Okay so turns out I misremembered by mentally adding this post to another post, but I still wanna talk about it

I would fucking LOVE it if @staff would implement a way to remove SOME of the reblogs on a post, effectively making it possible to, as @junkcentral proposed, more easily "reblog from" deactivated blogs in the context of a reblog chain.

If a chain made from users A-B-C-D exists, and I like the interaction A, B and C are having enough to reblog it but don't want to include D's addition in said reblog, what I have to do right now is go to user C's blog and reblog the post from there. If user C happens to be deactivated, this becomes more complicated, and if user D is also deactivated, it actually becomes impossibly complicated. I cannot now remove user D's reblog without also removing user C's reblog, which I want to keep.

I don't want to say that this is "easily" fixed, because heaven knows I know next to nothing about actually coding professionally, but - this is an example of something we, the users, actually want. If you're gonna be adding changes to the way reblogs work, try making the "remove reblogs" button able to handle specific requests. Like, you press "remove reblogs" and you enter the "remove reblogs" mode of editing your post, wherein you can click on one of the reblogs and remove it and all that comes after. Or something. Maybe the "remove reblogs" button becomes moveable-aroundable, and you drag it to the point at which you want the post to stop. Maybe you click individually on seven "remove this reblog" buttons, starting from the bottom, for the seven additions you want to remove. Maybe something else entirely. But just. Consider it? Maybe?

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Love how tumblr has its own folk stories. Yeah the God of Arepo we’ve all heard the story and we all still cry about it. Yeah that one about the woman locked up for centuries finally getting free. That one about the witch who would marry anyone who could get her house key from her cat and it’s revealed she IS the cat after the narrator befriends the cat.

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meraarts

Might I add:

The defeat of the wizard who made people choose how they’d be to be executed

The woman who raised the changeling alongside her biological child

The human who died of radiation poisoning after repairing the spaceship

The adventures of a space roomba

Cinderella finding Araura (and falling in love)

I don’t know a snappy description but the my nemesis cynthia story certainly lives in my head

I am in love with you /p

What about the one with the princess locked in a tower learning to become a wizard? That’s lived in my mind for years and I haven’t seen it in a long time

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elidyce

So many more additions!

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It’s amazing how on the internet I’m like hey here’s a thing that helped me. Maybe it will help you.

And then someone is always like if I do that thing though it will kill me.

Probably don’t do it then. Idk what you want from me, man.

If I’m like adding tomato to your sandwich is yummy and you’re like “but I’m deathly allergic to tomatoes what am I supposed to do”

Idk dude. Not eat tomatoes I guess.

I’ve got this old post where I was like hey sometimes it’s fun to try to get a chore done while you’re waiting for water to boil or something. Might help if you have adhd. It’s free deadline.

And I still get people commenting on that post like uhm no some of us have anxiety so bad that we’d pass out if we did that.

Like. Probably don’t do that then?

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alex51324

Tumblr has trouble with the concept that there's a huge range of options in between "forbidden" and "compulsory."

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loombreaking

tumblr post made by a 27 year old woman frustrated bc her boyfriend leaves her with the burden of household chores: god I wish men would stop "forgetting" to do the dishes

15 year old with adhd in the replies who has just been yelled at for forgetting the dishes: what if he's neurodivergent and you're bullying him

mra blogs, by the dozen: this is why Matriarchy has failed our most vulnerable men

This is actually such a good point. 100% of posts I make with an opinion are things I made while a bit pissed off that don’t stand up to any scrutiny and should not get more than 2 notes

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senadimell

[ID: tags read:

 #this really puts into perspective how often people forget that tumblr is in fact primarily a blogging website #not every post someone makes is supposed to be some sort of social commentary that’s supposed to get a bunch of notes

#a lot of people just come on here and post about personal experiences #not expecting the posts to get a whole bunch of notes or leave their circle of friends and followers #and when they do this always happens #because again people forget that tumblr’s main function is in fact BLOGGING.

Blogging is written in all caps. End ID]

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peachdoxie

Honestly the queue and schedule post options on Tumblr are extremely underrated. No other major social networking site has the ability to do that with the same ease as Tumblr does, and we've had them for like a decade now. They're fantastic features and Tumblr doesn't get enough credit for having them.

I'm actually willing to assert that Tumblr actually has some of the best site functionality:

- queue/schedule system

- tagging that doesn't interfere with the actual content of posts

- the ask/inbox system

- ability to make likes/following lists private

- ability to reblog posts multiple times

- the "Keep Reading" feature

- ability to easily post different media. AFAIK Tumblr is the only social media site that lets you post audio without it being a video.

- dash is always in reverse chronological order

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aethersea

the ability to almost entirely customize your home page is pretty neat, too

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jb612

I could go on about this forever but I firmly believe that Tumblr is a remnant from a time before companies figured out how to efficiently monetize social media, and as such it's designed with users instead of advertisers in mind.

That's both why it has continued to have active avid users in spite of a lot of technical /policy issues, and why it hasn't been massively profitable.

I treasure this garbage site.

May I just add

  • working filtering/blocking system
  • reblog chains
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cea-tide
working filtering/blocking system

Oh yeah I hate how you sometimes can't completely block something on other sites; only "see it less", like that ever did anything. It is back the next day, a week if you're lucky.

Some more:

  • tags can have spaces so you can talk in the tags
  • the ability to mass edit (or comparing to some sites, to just be able to edit) posts
  • minimal tracking of users
  • fully self-curated dash (with optionally minimal recommendations)
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Honestly, the worst part about spambots is looking at each profile icon and thinking, "That is a picture of a real life woman. I wonder how badly she would consider this a misuse of her appearance and violation of her privacy?" And the answer is likely different for every picture.

It's thoughts like that that keep me motivated to report and block the bots whenever they appear. Kill them all.

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aurora1040

this is actually a really good point

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potsiefaerie

Yeah I keep wondering - is she a model? Was she paid for this? Or is this a stolen vacation photo? Or...AI?

I literally thought that yesterday.

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tsukithewolf

At this point if I see this 

I know it’s the tumblr equivalent of

[ID: Image one is the Destiel confession meme from Supernatural. With teary eyes, Castiel says: “I love you.” Dean looks unruffled. Image two is a graphic that says “Breaking News” in big block letters against a red background. Image three is a tag that reads: “#I had to unblock destiel because this is how we share news on this fucking webbed site.” End ID]

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i get so thrown when i see people call tumblr a hellsite and start talking about discourse theyve seen. when i call this place a hellsite im referring to the fact that if youre on mobile and interact with your queue in any way itll immediately launch you back up to the top.

other ways tumblr is a hellsite, especially on mobile: i tried to click on a link on a post and it told me id need the tumblr app to view it. i was then helpfully taken to the tumblr app store page where i was told i already had the tumblr app

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i love abortion and i love divorce

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red-twist

i pop some pills and i ride my horse

i log onto tumblr and i start discourse

eyyyy macarena

this has the strongest 2014 tumblr vibe i’ve seen in a while, can’t believe this post is 5 days old

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adorablecake

THIS POST IS FIVE DAYS OLD???? I THOUGHT IT WAS AT LEAST 2 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!

happy 9 day anniversary to this post 💖

date of origin: April 18, 2021

Look at that subtle off-kilter humour… the tasteful length of the reblog chain… oh my god, it even has a deactivated blog

[Image: a dude from some movie looking intently at a small piece of paper. End ID.]

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mousemilf

you could make a post like “getting enough sunlight is good for your mental health” and once it broke 70 notes someone would be like “oh my god OP not everyone can just get sunlight. just say you hate people living in the arctic circle -_-”

post “hey guys if you have a headache you might be dehydrated! remember to drink water”

comment 1: “your privilege is showing OP. imagine thinking everyone has access to clean water lmfao”

comment 2: “ok but a lot of neurodivergent people have a hard time drinking water??? acting like its that simple is so ableist”

comment 3: “actually dehydration was invented in the 80s to sell sinks to more americans. your body cant tell the difference between water and a vodka redbull *link to a medium article full of broken links*”

comment 5: “drinking water doesn’t help against every headache. stop spreading false information.”

comment 6: “one time I drank so much water I had to go to the hospital for water intoxication and I almost died. how dare you not warn people about this?”

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lovely-v

Ive reblogged so many posts about Glass Onion that tumblr thinks I’m really into onions. It’s recommended me an oil painting of onions and gifs from a documentary about garlic. Thickest algorithm in the world please never make it smarter

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milkwizard

@onionpainter u notice an uptick recently or

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onionpainter

[ID: Kronk saying "oh yeah, it's all coming together." ]

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athelind

The Most Tumblr Punchline

I've noted before that my favorite punchline on Tumblr is "hang on, gotta look something up/okay that's funny."

Let me explain why:

  • It is a way to say "I don't get it" without blaming the joke or the teller.
  • It is a tacit admission of ignorance without shame or judgement.
  • It assumes responsibility for acquiring the knowledge the respondent doesn't already have.
  • It cues other people who Don't Get It to do the look-up themselves, allowing them to get that full impact of Getting It without derailing the post with explanations.
  • It gives subsequent readers, whether or not THEY got the joke, a little frisson of good feelings when they realize that someone else is now In On The Joke.
  • It not only makes the original joke funnier, it gets funnier the more often it's used.
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