Can we please have a god damn Superman and Wonder Woman centered movie, tv series and comic now?????
Yes, come on , WB & DC. Where is Kingdom Come? Or Soule's SMWW Power Couple arc in animation? Why haven't we gotten a new 52 earth comic yet? It's a travesty we have to beg for these things.
What do you think of the MCU? What did it do right that the DCEU did wrong or not do better?
Everything.
World Building.
Casting
Plots lines
Character development
Risk taking.
Patience
Technical skill
Visual Effects
Resulting after 10 years of work: One Billion Dollars in days and a brand the movie going public trusts.
Hehehe. This looks freaking awesome! Zeppelin!!
Lots of movies to look forward to this year but I feel this is my most anticipated one. I loved the first 2 installments. This trailer ...gave me chills and feels. Amazing. Caesar is turning out to be one of my favorite fictional movie characters ever.
Batman v Superman screen grabs
My eyes are just riveted on Henry and Gal. They look perfect when in frame together. It just baffles me they didn’t get to interact more than they did or say more to each other. This is freaking Superman and Wonder Woman! The Power Couple! The source material always has them as very close allies and or sometimes even lovers. Hell, when the Avengers met they spoke more than one sentence to one other and gave each other eye contact! I think this was a wasted opportunity for a memorable first meet by Snyder and Co of two major players in the DCEU. The Trinity isn’t even getting a chance to become a Trinity because one of them is now dead! And there was no need to kill him at this stage. You have to be alive and have a dynamic to earn the title, haven’t you? So even calling them the Trinity is sort of premature and pointless. sigh.
Anyway if I think about all they did wrong in BM v SM I will start to go off on a tangential rant. And I just want to appreciate the superwonderful Henry and Gal now....oh yeah and you too in the back there, Ben!
These are my thoughts.My opinion. It should not invalidate anyone else’s if you love it and think it should win Oscars. Some spoilers, so be warned.
I went in wanting to love this movie. This movie was built on a lot of hype and expectation. It was featuring Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman for the first time together on the big screen. That alone was worth going to see.
The movie I will give credit for trying to bring something big to the screen and explore real world concepts and philosophical themes about xenophobia and Gods vs men and heroism etc. Trying being the operative word. It only succeeded partially because the script byTerrio was lacking. Or maybe it was a mishmashed script of Goyer and Terrio...either way...it was lacking. It delivered on some beautiful cinemaphotography. Yes, Zack Synder has an eye for a good frame. But there was real problems with getting solid characterization and motivation and emotion. I guess this happens when you try to cram too much into a movie. But thing is there was stuff they could have chopped from this movie easily and it would not have hurt it. There was a huge problem with pacing and editing and some sub plots that were pointless. They just dragged the movie unnecessarily.
There were sequences that was awesome like Bruce Wayne’s witnessing the Zod and Superman battle. Very powerful, well excecuted. The Batman fighting. Fact Batman came off better than every one simply because it felt like his movie and like he got the most character development. So yes Ben Affleck was a good Batman. I won’t say the best Batman because the movie was not the best and it is way too early to even compare him to Bale. And when he battled Superman, I just thought Batman was being an asshole. It wasn’t a fight so much as it was a bully beating down on someone who doesn’t want to fight.
Henry Cavill. sigh. As a Superman fan I was disappointed. Not with Henry but with Zack. Henry looks the part. You see him and you think, yes, this is Superman but rarely Henry is allowed to display that power and charisma. There are flashes, moments of seeing Superman before you but it is fleeting You do not get the sense that Snyder understands Superman’s core character well. I get he has a slightly different origin for this Superman but still, his Superman from Man of Steel, to now is one of the most reactive Supermen I have ever come across. Sure he does Superman stuff but it feels like the character is not being allowed to soar. He is being smothered by his own lack of a clear personality. He is not allowed to articulate his position as Superman. He is constantly told what to do and how he should feel by others. His motivations as Clark going after Batman seemed flimsy and even when he is supposed to look as if he is an astute reporter, he never gets to. We want to hear Superman speak...not whine how sad he is, show how burdened he is all the time. In comics Superman feels his alienness but the guy gets to show how smart and empathetic he is. Not this guy. As soon as the guy seems to be going to actually do something...he has to run off and save his girlfriend. Now I have no problem you need to save your girlfriend but it was done in such a way it was not helpful to Superman’s overall character development.
The guy drops everything and I mean everything the moment she starts hyperventilating or screaming. Yet he he can’t save his own mother. He bails out on Wonder Woman who is struggling with Doomsday to try and save the world no less...the world from this creature...and he flies off to not only save Lois but linger to make goo goo eyes at her. I wanted to scream, get back and fight you fool. You can suck face later. It’s like he is her personal 911. And let’s not forget that little extra piece of gold Snyder tosses in there to further suggest Lois Lane defines Superman’s morality. Yep, she not around...he might go insane or destroy humanity. What a disservice to Superman’s character. A hero is not a hero because he gets everything he wants. A hero is a hero because he chooses the high road despite life tossing crap at him. If Lois dies Superman can get sad sure...heck even mourn and go away for a while...but no way on earth should the commentary on this hero be that he relies on one person to make him stay connected and define his moral core. That is not humanizing. That is tossing the character under the bus to try to make another character relevant.
Amy Adams’ Lois Lane. Amy tries.very hard to create some relevance to the character but again the script lets her down. Plus she is a mismatch for Cavill’s Superman. There is very little chemistry between them. I am not sure what Superman learns by being with Lois other than he gets some bathtub sex and rescues her. They want to say these two are in love but I don’t get that impression. In fact I want to ask, why are they in love other than he saved her in Man of Steel ? They share an apartment but to me they seem disconnected, especially from Cavill’s side. They keep trying to have other characters say how she has balls and she’s so tough etc and yet we see none of that. Tell and never really show. Amy Adams comes across as a nice and inoffensive Lois and that is the problem. She isn’t ballsy nor tough no matter what they say. She becomes giggly and simper when she gets saved as well and very quickly is willing to forget Superman saving her in Africa caused a ton load of shit to. hit the fan. He couldn’t even save Jimmy Olsen. If you’re not named Lois Lane in this movie, Superman doesn’t really seem to go the extra mile it seems. Her subplot was not important other than them trying to desperately convince us she is such a great reporter. Her investigation adds nothing really to the plot other than making it drag. She is the girlfiend who is there is be a plot device for the male character. It felt like she needed saving at every pivotal moment. It was distracting and annoying not romantic.
Jesse Eisenburg’s Lex. I did not like him. I just did not find this guy threatening. He was trying to be awkward, unstable, some mishmash of camp and schizo. Just did not work for me. I did not even quite believe in his motivation to hate Superman.
Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman. Yes she was a scene stealer. But it wasn’t very hard to do in a movie like this. She was a real relief when she showed up in battle, ready to kick ass and embracing it like a real hero. Was the only time my cinema reacted. Her appearance got applause and the Is she with you, I thought she was with you got the only real genuine laugh. Her unimpressed by Bruce Wayne’s playboy antics was good to see as well. It was nice to see one woman not used to further the male hero’s plot but drive her own character.. The battle with the Trinity was too short. I could have done with ten more minutes of them. Cut out other unnecessary scenes and give us more them vs Doomsday. They barely spoke to each other as a trio too and that again was disappointing. The Trinity is iconic and people love their dynamic and they barely got a chance to even have any real introdcution to each other as a trio... come Justice League Superman is not around so...Snyder takes that away from audiences again.
Doomsday. Very poor CGI I thought. The fight with the Trinity was not clean. Too much static and explosions and you could barely see what they were doing. It did not make for a great spectacle. I have seen better battles.
Other supporting characters were good but standouts were Lawrence Fishburne and Jeremy Irons. Diane Lane was good too in the small part where she spoke to Clark about being a hero etc but she was not used much other than to be rescued as well.
The actual Batman v Superman fight. Visually good but they gave it all away in the trailers leaving little to surprise audiences. The fight is referenced from comics like Dark Knight Returns and Justice League Origins Vol 1 and even JL War and was nice to see it on the big screen. But again it all was very anti climatic with their mothers’ names being the thing to make Batman suddenly stop wanting to kill Superman.
Then the death of Superman. It did not feel earned. Just felt so soon for me because the death story was premised on this hero loved by the world and his JL colleagues etc dying and what that meant. The guy is barely known by Batman and Wonder Woman. The loss felt by these characters in the comics when Superman died had more emotion because they actually loved him as their friend. But as Zack Snyder says he did it to get rid of Superman so Batman could build the League and Superman is too powerful. Yes, Zack you really care for Superman, don’t you? Superman for decades in the Justice League was never an issue for DC but for you it is. Come JL 2 wonder what you’ll do to get rid of him then.
The Justice League cameos were kinda shoehorned in there but hey the fan inside you loves the idea the wider universe is kicking off.
All in all, I have mixed feelings towards movie. I don’t hate it but I don’t love it. I am glad I saw it and urge anyone who is a DC fan to go and see it. There is stuff to geek out at because it is the first time we are seeing them that might make you forgive Snyder but I think if Snyder does not come better next time...fans won’t be as forgiving. The split will become wider. There were flashes of a better movie in there somewhere but it got too ambitious and tried to take itself too seriously and is still struggling to give Superman his voice. I guess I am glad we will see Wonder Woman soon. Justice League? Part of me is glad to see it but ...the heart of the Justice League was always Superman and imo Snyder took away the heart.
I give this movie a 6/10
“And then my soul saw you and it kind of went, ‘Oh, there you are. I’ve been looking for you.’— Iain Thomas
I will squee so hard in that cinema if they meet like this in the movie verse.
#Superman #wonderwoman #henrycavill #galgadot
Just had to put them together! I can’t wait to see their first meeting on screen.
Justice League War with a scene from Superman/Wonder Woman #4. #NODIBS
Makes me laugh even harder.
Oh to see Lantern whine in a future movie about this!
The image is in homage to the French 1938 movie poster of Bringing Up Baby. Clark, the mild mannered reporter and Diana, the free spirited princess, must take care of the unpredictable hound from Krypton.
Hmm, must be serendipity again. We’ve had several images of Supes with a beard this last week and here he (Henry Cavill) crops up again in Man of Steel.
Batman is not the only hero who has the remit to get scruffy. This guy is probably working and traveling for his living. I hope they use that slant. Makes sense for Clark Kent.
If anyone saw the recent images of Henry in filming MOS he does NOT wear the glasses yet!
Glimpse of Henry Cavill in the Superman suit during filming of the Man of Steel. No red underpants.Nice body though.
Love this movie. The romance is not faithful to the book but this is one instance when the Hollywood treatment created magic. Great drama and such chemistry between the leads.
"Andy Dufresne, who crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side. Andy Dufresne, headed for the Pacific. Those of us who knew him best talk about him often. I swear, the stuff he pulled... Sometimes it makes me sad, though, Andy being gone. I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright and when they fly away, the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice, but still, the place you live in is that much more drab and empty that they're gone. I guess I just miss my friend."
The Shawshank Redemption (1994), one of my all time favorite movies. It's about brotherhood,justice,redemption and a jailbreak. See it if you haven't.
