The message I wanted the Naruto Series to send us.
That sometimes what you want isn’t what you need.
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That sometimes what you want isn’t what you need.
Someone from the fandom and i were talking and they were telling me how they added new panels in the Boruto manga that wasn’t in the movie. Check it out:
Then we also have this official art drawn by Kishimoto himself for the Boruto manga:
I mean isn’t that kyuubi sage mode? So what does this mean?? Is it possible that this is a foreshadowing of the Kyuubi being transferred to Boruto? Would they actually go as far as to kill Naruto off for the sake of giving Boruto a power up? In my opinion i wouldn’t be surprised if they did, but a lot of fans would be super PISSED (me included).
What do you guys think about this?
Considering there is no canon anymore they'll just make Naruto give Kurama to Boruto like a pet or something, won't even be sealed.
What you think about the ending?
Isn’t the question that everyone asks?!
Thank you for asking me, now get ready for a long text my child.
So without talking about those half-ass ships (because everyone knows they don’t have development or healthy relationship), let’s talk about the universe of Naruto in general.
I think some messages portrayed during the whole manga were wrong, but then the ending was much more disappointing.
What really pissed me off was the “endure” thing that Naruto tells to the brat in the ending. First, its really OOC of Naruto to say that because himself don’t want to endure to be hated in the village at part one, but also the fact that this manga was talking about revolution and change. Rock Lee doesn’t want to endure the fact that he can’t become a ninja, Sasuke doesn’t want to endure that his parents are killed by his brother, everybody was fighting for something, nobody wants to endure. But at the end, you are saying that you just have to endure to make things right? Wtf?
The truth of the Uchiha massacre was not revealed, the system of Konoha was such garbage (and the villagers suddenly forgot what they do to Naruto when he saved the village, this truly make them pathetic because they didn’t even realize their fault haha) and the shinobi system that shows in the whole manga how stupid it was didn’t change. And this series looks like a big fail.
All the promises (the fucking Huygga clan) were not achieved and Naruto is now the biggest scumbag ever. Sasuke is still on mission (?) and Sakura waiting his husband to come back, everyone seems lost and pitiful and character development goes to shit.
I am not saying that part two was really good but it was great compared to this ending who does not make sense.
I was waiting for an ending where Sasuke and Naruto change the nations and learn more about politics where they can solve all the problems that we have seen during the whole manga. This may be unreal but it gaves us at least a good message: you have to fight to change things.
Team 7 will be back and I think everyone would be happy.
Thanks again for asking this question anon, I think you probably already see those arguments somewhere but I have to let this out.
Its been two years but yeah, this ending is still garbage, time won’t change that.
(Wtf is even the Bleach ending imao)
Hi everyone, I thought I would share with you something that had came into my inbox not even five minutes ago and I must say that this actually did hurt me a little bit. I write fanfiction because it’s what i enjoy, and I’ve gotten better with Anon hate, as if they can’t come show their real face then obviously it isn’t that big of a deal, but it really hits me at the fact people say this to others simply because we’re over the internet. You see, I am obese, and yes I am a virgin by choice, which shouldn’t be that big of a deal or that big of an insult because saving yourself for the person you see a future with and who you love is just as wonderful as loosing it as soon as you want to with whoever you want to, but I’ve been struggling with not killing myself since I was eleven. It’s this type of behavior that makes me really hate the Naruto fandom. If someone doesn’t ship the same things you do, that is no reason for you to tell them to kill themselves, much less to try and cyber bully them when you can’t even show your face.
I work hard on my stories, do some of them need work? Yes, they do, do some of them need to be rewritten? Yes, they do, but when you do this stuff, it reflects on the entire fandom, which why I left for the most part and mainly focus on just writing fanfiction. If you don’t ship what I do, that is perfectly fine, not everyone is going to have the same likes or dislikes as me, but the fact that they would take time out of their day to try and make me feel bad about what I took hours on end to write, why couldn’t you have just left and found a story much more to their liking? I, personally, don’t hate Sakura at all, I only did what I did for two stories, after all, you can’t say I hate her because she is a main character in another one of my stories and I actually do have plans to make more stories that involve her.
I just can’t unserstand why you would do this to someone, is it simply because you’re behind a computer screen because if that’s the case, you shouldn’t say such mean things at all. It never seems to accrue to people that perhaps a person might be struggling with something, such as me struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts (Which I thank my friends for being there for me when I needed them most and still staying by me even now ) and if anything, if tonight had been one of my bad nights, and had my friend Brittany not been telling me everything was going to be fine, I probably would have done just that. Don’t be a ass to people because of a ship, because honestly, you don’t know what they might actually do, and honestly, if I knew who you were, I could honestly get you put in jail because it is an offense to tell someone to kill themselves, and it’s even more so of a offense if they do it.
If you want me to die, then say it to my face and be ready to face the charges you’ll get.
okay so Nazi!SShitheads and Nazi!NHtards call people bitches and crazy and how we should kill ourselves….
Hello earth
They love/adore/worship them
We hate them
To each their own
But who are they to attack us? They act like we were attacking them personally or a member from their family. Am I the only one who see how crazy af fuck they are? How self-centered they are? How hypocrite they are?
Funny how the adjectives they use against us describe them perfectly.
I can’t believe some people get frightened or sad about their laugheable and pitiful attempts at attacking people. Let’s wake up, not only on tumblr but in life because some people are so far up their asses they think they’re God.
God knows I don’t care about their ships, no matter how flawed they are, but I joined the hate-wagon to remind them that SS and NH are FICTIONAL and FLAWED af, that kishimoto is not that amazing, that they’re NOT shpechul snowflakes and neither kishi or them are God. Might they deal with it :-p
P.S: My dear Haters comrades, why bother answer them when they are cowards hiding behind insukts and anonym messages? That they think we are heartless or whatever equals us shitting on kishimoto’s writing skills. The best arm is reveling the shittiness of the plotlines, and the bs logic. That’s what hurt them. That’s our force.
We need a heart because we are not getting lurred by pity and guilt-trip (we should be kishi’s bicthes because he’s a human, we should love ss and nh because those bitches were crying and lusting behing guys…)
They need brain
I used the VIZ translation you know the one done by people who know what they're doing and aren't biased unlike fans? The translation you used was done by fans the version I used was done by unbiased professionals. Not a rushed translation. The VIZ one matches the raw more anyways.
Don’t be so cheeky. Why do you argue against a straw man? Or areyou misinterpreting my answer [ link ] on purpose to show that Sasukesupposedly loves Sakura?
“Iused the VIZ translation you know the one done by people who knowwhat they’re doing and aren’t biased unlike fans? (…)”
→ Appealto bias. You discredit my arguments because you imply I and thepeople, whom I got the translated panels from, are biased. You don’teven know which site I used; yet, you accuse me of using wrong/rushedtranslations. Butlet’s play your manipulative game:
The website isn’t available for me. Surprise, not everybody lives in America. There are other countries in the world. Unbelievable, I know. Nevertheless, I searched for the translations you mentioned, and I found them.
The apparently false translated panel I used:
The apparently correct translated panel you mentioned:
You:
Me:
Hilarious. :-)
Jeez, what is it that makes everyone so pissed off about people criticizing or simply discussing salad's identity or choices. Why are they so fixated on glorifying one kid when all we really know is her thoughtproces and upbringing are flawed. At this point everything is still up for interpretation, yet Naruto canon officially ended. Those expanded universe books or fillers actually aren't helping anyone's case. Why insult others when their guess is just as much as yours? Superiority complex?
I can’t tell if people are slow on the uptake—thus, their readingcomprehensions are inadequate—, or if they misinterpret my posts onpurpose. I agree, Anon. What I said was that we can’t prove who themother is. Everything we state are hypothesis at the moment; yet,they try to convince me? Who knows from where this brash behaviourresults… It may have several causes; e.g. underlying insecuritiescombined with a natural tendency to bloody-mindedness.
Where did the naruhina-haku thing come from? Huh, was she already introduced at that point? Why would he work Against fulfilling a scene? Tbh I think hinata's an example of how someone's selfish feelings can be potentially detrimental for team solidarity. Kiba and Shino went full try-hard all the time. She should've been already inspired by her two badass teammates or her more than capable female teacher. Kiba had big dreams, and his dad wasn't there for him either.
To the best of my knowledge, a NH shipper made a long post about this. He presented miscellaneous facts in a twisted way, but it makes sense for people, who desperately search forevidences, that convince themselves into thinking NH was planned fromthe start. Since I am not fond of essays that lack any objectivity, I decided toclarify one or two things. Personally speaking, I think emotions—beit positive or negative ones—deceive when it comes to analyses.Living in an illusion isn’t that pleasant, now, is it? :)
No, Hinata was introduced along with the fullcast of Rookie Nine in the second arc (= ChuuninExams)of Part I. Naruto declared her as “A weirdo who looks away when I look at her. A shy, dark girl”, and confirmed later on that he indeed thought she’s a ‘plain-looking, dark weirdo’. Fair enough, he changed his mind afterwards.
Moreover, I agree with you. She behaved egotistical throughoutthe series. First of all, she isn’t selfless. She craves Naruto’sattention. That’s why sheeven tries to help him cheat. Onthe surface, this action might seem selfless, however, if you digdeeper, the egoism is brought into the light of day. Hinata doesn’t think twice about her comrades, the only thing that is important to her is being noticed by her crush (whom she barely knows at this point).Pretty naïve as for the folks saying goes.
Secondly, her motives are never particularly kind-hearted, rather,her actions result from the mere fact that she feels some sort ofadrenaline kick (the series describes this euphemistically as hernindou). It isn’t per se a bad thing when you view an individual asyour source of inspiration, nevertheless, it’s questionable whenyour whole existence evolves around this someone.
To be honest, Kiba never interested me that much, but he isn’t abad character. He’s average, and it makes himsomewhat realistic. Hinata, on the other hand, is one-dimensional.
When a naruhina/ hinatits fan trynna prove Hinata is stronger than Sakura but can’t state facts and responds with “hahaha” when they know they don’t have shit to say
I’m Ayy lmao btw lol
Why should I care what you think when the *canon* tells us otherwise?
“He purposely let Kurama take over everytime, he sometimes even begged Kurama to lend him power. He’s never resistant to using Kurama’s power, he’s quite happy to leech on Kyuubi since the very beginning…”
What does this have to do with him comparing, on panel, the difference between the Sasuke (let Kurama take over on purpose) vs Hinata situation (being so mad he let Kurama take over without even thinking about it after he had declared he would never use Kurama again)? Your argument was that the Sasuke situation was on the same level as the Hinata situation. My argument was that canon disagreed. Stop deflecting and stick to the point.
My argument was always Naruto got upset and used Kurama’s power all the time, even about small shit like Orochimaru talking about Sasuke. I don’t see how this reflects on him caring about Hinata. Personally I don’t think he cares about anyone except himself.
I didn’t ask you to “care”, you already show you care enough to spam my inbox repeatedly.
He let Kurama take over on purpose in both situations cos he’s weak, he knew he wouldn’t stand a chance without Kurama’s power. Kurama’s power was his last resort in the Pein’s fight.
He vowed not to use Kurama again? He also vowed to change the Hyuuga clan, he also vowed to bring peace to the world. He habitually makes promises he never intended to keep. He didn’t mean them.
“I don’t get what’s so big deal about him going kyuubi, he does it all the time, who cares.”
No, he doesn’t. Naruto doesn’t get filled with the worst emotion he ever felt and allow Kurama to take over subconsciously all the time. He doesn’t nearly get rid of the seal altogether either.
His emotionally shallow, his worst emotion for seeing nakama got killed had as much depth as seeing a ramen got spoiled. It’s canon he couldn’t tell the difference between love for food and love for people. Everytime he let kurama take over was a conscious decision, except the first time in wave country arc cos he wasn’t aware of Kurama’s power and how to let him take over and harness that power at the time. Once he discovered it, the decisions are conscious.
It matters because it shows that Hinata has some impact on him as the main character, in contrast to what you say.
lol, he cried his eyes out when some fodders got sucked dry by god tree too, fodders had impact on the main character too. What’s so special about it? it’s a trope.
“WTF?? this is shonen, you can’t go back to a lower power level. He could only go up, he couldn’t go back down to 3 tail after going 4 tail…”
This isn’t even an argument, just a sad attempt to appeal to a trope.
It’s an argument, you’re using the same trope as an argument. cos the whole argument about MC got a emotional power up shows he cares IS a trope. Personally I don’t agree, some people get angry and lose their shits more easily than others, anger is not always evidence of meaningful relationship and feelings.
what nh fans always keep forgetting is that it took a movie to justify and actually make NH happens through a forced, a shonen turned shojo, a fake ass-pull villain and a forced love triangle just liked in trash romance books. Even in that movie… Goooooood!!
If he got angry because love (and “ lol, he cried his eyes out when some fodders got sucked dry by god tree too”. Totally agree. He showed so much emotion for so many stuffs and people…) why the hell the Last started with naruto still being clueless and hinata cried over a stupid scarf after seeing him with a girl? So she has time to meet up with sakura and speaks with her, but not naruto? Are we stupid not to see they had more than plenty time to talk together yet a random girl glue to naruto with hinata STILL in the background?
Come on, just like sasuke calling sakura annoying and implying how uninterresant to him she is TOTALLY annihilate whatever theories about sakura being his light (lol), the last starting with NH’s relationship being the same as in naruto part I, annihilate the possible theory that he had feelings for her. Why else during the war when his dad asked if sakura was his gf, he answered that way? Like Kishimoto made an extra effort to show us how sasuke and naruto were so not in love with their fangirls by 699 AND TADA: fanservice and they are all married!!!!
A couple weeks ago, I saw this bullshit post which complained that “you can’t ship anything dark anymore” and that all the PC ships were “vanilla”. *Wouldn’t you know it, they were also a Dramione shipper in addition to being hardcore Skyeward. Figures.* In light of recent events, like the emergence of Jessigrave and Reylo shippers, this post holds even more importance.
STOP SHIPPING PEOPLE WITH THEIR ABUSERS. *Specifically women, they get it a lot more than the dudes do.* It’s not edgy, it’s not cool, and it’s definitely not “hot” “sexy” or whatever ridiculous adjective you will use to describe it. It needs to stop. It’s a disturbing pattern across multi-fandom lines and it needs to go away.
Let’s talk about Grant Ward. He is similar to a lot of these villains mentioned above. Like Draco Malfoy, he was part of an fascist organization. Like Kilgrave, he was abused as a child. Like Kylo Ren, he had difficulty fitting into the prototypical villain mold. But that does not change the fact that he is (ultimately) a villain and a serial abuser. If you’re going to be an active part of a complex character’s fan club, then you have to recognize the good and the bad.
You know the names-I recite them all the time-Skyeward, Mayward, Karaward, Mockingpuppy, Fitzward, Biospecialist. That’s right-Grant Ward is shipped with each and every person he has abused. A quick breakdown: 1) Skyeward/Daisyward/Quakefire*if you still buy into the Hellfire shit*: Ward x The woman he manipulated and lied to, kidnapped, and threatened to rape. 2) Mayward: Ward x The woman he actually did rape. (By deception, but it WAS STILL FUCKING RAPE.) May I remind you that both of these female characters are heavily criticized by the GW fandom for not being sensitive to HIS feelings and HIS abuse? The double standard is real. 3) Karaward: Ward x the victim of brainwashing and torture he manipulated with his professed love, used as a tool, then shot and killed. 4) Mockingpuppy: Ward x the woman he brutally physically tortured, then set up a machine gun to kill her ex while she watched. 5) Fitzward: Ward x the the guy he gave brain damage to, then victim-blamed him about it for fun. 6) Biospecialist: Ward x the woman to whose best friend he gave brain damage to, then tortured her to get at said best friend.
To those of you who claim that the Grant Ward fandom is really pro-victim, what the fuck is wrong with these ships? Can you explain to me what is not abusive about them? What makes them sexy and cool and okay?
I know some of you will dismiss this as just another SJW post. Just another stupid girl getting her knickers in a twist about nothing. It’s just a TV show…right? But the sad part is, what we ship on TV is reflective of what we think is okay in real life. When we actively shove these ships down the fandom’s throat, we invalidate the fact that there are real abuse victims out there who are shocked and horrified by this blatant romanticization of abuse.
So before you go write your Skyeward fanfiction, take a second and think. A real person, a real abuse victim, could be horribly scarred by this ship that in real life, any normal person would condemn. When you ship inherently abusive pairings, you invalidate the struggles real victims face. You turn a blind eye to the sufferings of real people. And that is not okay.
To the author of that post…I have nothing to say to you except #VanillaShipsForever.
OH MY GOD PEOPLE SHIP JESSICA AND KILGRAVE? What is wrong with these bitches, can't they just go find a serial killer of their own to write letters to while he rots in jail or something? Ewwwwwwwwww
but it’s actually so heartbreaking, because naruto didn’t decide to stay with hinata because he loved her, but because she loved him. he pitied her so much that he decided to put her feelings over his own.
because that is what the real naruto would do.
same with sasuke. His ‘thank you’ are mostly ‘thanks for loving me’ and that’s the drama of life. Surely if being gay was mainstream sasunaru might have hit it lol. I might not ship it but at least it seems story/plot wise the more ‘natural’.
I used natural because nh and ss romances exist out there, which prove to be a problem with the divorce rate or dangerous relationship, especially for ss. Imagine it if sasuke was like a baby-raper or psychopath?
sakura: I know I couldn’t save you but I love you, blalabla let get back to the beginning blblabla. God the horror
Hinata is anothere story. She should have travelled a bit away like sasuke to get a better grip of herself. God knows I hate love-struck fangirl and one character should exist outside the relationship. EPIC FAIL for hinata on that one
There are A LOT of Sakuras out there. We see them in the news when people arrest men who are raping their daughters and their wives who openly consent to it, and even sometimes will beat the daughters up to stop them from denouncing the rapist fathers to the police.
sasukesrinnegan ha risposto al tuo post “Just wait till he gives another interview… did you know the Last…”
psycho pass the movie, a anime with two seasons (one was only half a season) made 2 billion yen alone in the first week and completely smashed what Naruto made, so yes, Naruto the Last was an utter failure. pp is amazing tho
oh another good, interesting news ^^
i really should start psycho pass too °-°”
Been telling peeps it was a flopcopter for months...
After hours wasted on writing out my trauma of the Naruto ending I came to the conclusion that before ranting anything more, I need to make a normal objective opinion on The last by watching the movie. I did it today. Oh boy. What a an epos of brainfarts. And how beautifully...
Lemme put truebond's info here because it's actually very relevant (bolded and highlited by me for emphasis):
Pretty much sums up most of the bullshit about this movie.