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Female/20+. Multi-Fandom but focus on Oshi no Ko, Steins;Gate, ML Sugar, and Sailor Moon.    MAL anime list: https://myanimelist.net/animelist/SailorLily MAL manga list: https://myanimelist.net/mangalist/SailorLily
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Love Square Screen Time Records

Hey, everyone! As some of you may know, I've recently completed calculating the exact screen time for all the love square ships for all the episodes we have up until now, including the Miraculous World Specials. Now I've decided to list all the noteworthy moments in love square screen time based on the data I've collected.

We're going to start with doing some general overall records, then we're going to see the noteworthy moments of love square screen time for all the love square ships individually. so let's begin, shall we?

General Records

  1. First episode to include all of the love square ships: Cat Blanc

Of course it's "Cat Blanc' of all episodes to not only be the first episode to have screen time for all the love square ships, but also the only episode by far to have screen time for all the love square ships. It's already one of the greatest episodes of all time, so why not add some screen time for all the love square ships with it too?

We have the Adrienette dating montage, the battle between Ladybug and Cat Blanc, Adrien saving Marinette from akumatization as Cat Noir and revealing his identity along with it too, and finally Ladybug starting this mess by coming in to deliver her gift to Adrien, allowing him to catch her and piece together her identity.

2. First episode to include none of the love square ships: Representation

Closely followed by "Conformation" as the second. Who does this episode have to thank for to having this record? Gabriel, of course. Since Gabriel sent his his son to London specifically so that he can't spend time with his girlfriend anymore, this was the result. Adrien and Marinette weren't able to get together again until the end of "Re-Creation".

3. Love square ship with the most screen time in an episode: Adrienette in "Oblivio"

Not that surprising since a lot of the episode was spent in Adrien and Marinette running from the titular villain and re-learning who they are. It was only towards the end that they were able to figure out how to activate their powers again, thanks to Master Fu, giving Adrienette a total of 9 min 3 sec of screen time in this episode.

Adrienette Records

  1. Episode with the most Adrienette screen time: Oblivio

Since this episode already has the title for ship with most screen time in an episode, it will obviously also have the the title for episode with with the most Adrienette screen time. No need to repeat what I said earlier.

2. Season with most Adrienette screen time: season 5

No surprise here. We don't need to know the exact screen time to know that this season was full of Adrienette. First third of the season had a few patches of Adrienette here and there but from "Transmission" onwards we had a continuous stream of Adrienette content up until "Revolution" where Gabriel separated them by sending Adrien to London, after which the only got back together at the end of "Re-Creation".

Even though Adrienette didn't dominate this season like Ladynoir does every season, it still had over a third of the love square screen time and had 45 min 57 sec of screen time this season which a lot more than it usually has.

3. Season with least Adrienette screen time: season 4

Just like the other love square ships this season, Adrienette took a significant hit, having been reduced to having 12 min 38 sec of screen time as opposed to its usual half hour of screen time per season (roughly). It makes sense though considering that this season is more focused on the plot than past seasons have been and this is supposedly the season of Ladynoir.

4. Miraculous World Special with most Adrienette: New York Special

Makes sense for this to be the special with the most Adrienette as this special had the plotline of Marinette trying to be nothing more than a friend to Adrien, giving us a total of 7 min 40 sec of Adrienette in this 1-hour special, even surpassing Ladynoir in screen time.

5. First episode Adrienette surpasses Ladynoir in screen time: Gamer

Yes, this is an actual category since it's usually the norm for Ladynoir to have the most screen time in an episode. Not only was this the first episode where Adrienette surpasses Ladynoir in screen time, it's the first episode where any ship surpasses Ladynoir in screen time, and also the sole episode in season 1 where an episode surpasses Ladynoir in screen time. Adrien and Marinette being partners in the Mecha Strike tournament really did well to increase the Adrienette screen time.

Ladynoir Records

  1. Episode with most Ladynoir screen time: Mayura (Heroes' Day- part 2)

Kind of an interesting episode to have as the one with the most Ladynoir but OK. This part had the secondary heroes up until now put out of commission by scarlet akumatization in the first few minutes of the episode, leaving Ladynoir to fend for themselves, them against the world just as always.

2. Season with most Ladynoir screen time: season 1

Of course it's season 1 with the most Ladynoir screen time, with this being the show being at its most formulaic at this time, leading the focus to be more on the usual battle with the akumatized villains than with progressing the plot, gives us a total of 1 hr 53 min 26 sec of screen time that season which is nearly 2 hours.

3. Season with the least Ladynoir screen time: season 4

Ironically, the supposed Ladynoir season had the least Ladynoir screen time out of all the seasons. Despite it having the most screen time in terms of percentage, it still had the least screen time in terms of actual value, having a total of 59 min 24 sec of screen time this season, which isn't even an entire hour, although it's pretty close. But since this season focused more on the plot progression than any season we had before, it makes sense.

4. Miraculous World Special with most Ladynoir screen time: New York

Similar to Adrienette, Ladynoir also gets the most screen time it's ever gotten in the New York Special, and just like Adrienette it makes sense given that this special had a lot of focus on their relationship and how Cat Noir broke Ladybug's trust by coming to New York, giving us a total of 6 min 29 sec of screen time.

Maricat Records

  1. Episode with most Maricat screen time: Glaciator 2

Out of all the designated Maricat episodes, this was the one that got the most screen time for Maricat having a total of 8 min 14 sec of screen time. Makes sense, given that the whole episode was them practicing Marinette being able to confess her love to Adrien and going on a "date". "Elation" would be a worthy contender but as it turns out it didn't have nearly as much screen time as we thought though it was still a fair five and a half minutes.

2. Season with most Maricat screen time: Season 4

While season 4 had the least amount of screen time for Adrienette and Ladynoir, it had the most amount of screen time for Maricat, although it was only featured in 3 episodes of season 4 and most of the screen time was concentrated in "Sentibubbler" and "Glaciator 2". This gives it a total of 9 min 44 sec.

3. Season with least Maricat screen time: Season 2

Season 2 had Maricat take a huge hit due to which it became the ship with least screen time in a season for the first time. It only really got to shine a little bit in the designated Maricat episode of the season "Glaciator" and other than that had small moments in "Befana" and "Anansi", leaving it with 4 min 7 sec of screen time in the entire season.

4. First episode Maricat surpasses Ladynoir in screen time: Weredad

After 2 seasons of Ladynoir taking away their designated episode of the season, Maricat was finally able to surpass Ladynoir in screen time with 3 min 57 sec of screen time. Considering that the episode revolves around Marinette getting herself into the mess of Cat Noir thinking she has feelings for him and the awkward date between them set up by Tom and Ladynoir was only present at the beginning and towards the end of the episode, you can see why.

Ladrien Records

  1. Episode with most Ladrien screen time: Desparada

The episode where Ladybug entrusts Adrien with the Snake Miraculous gets the title of the episode with the most Ladrien screen time. It's obvious why since a good portion of the episode is Adrien as Aspik trying to woo Ladybug and failing terribly because he's focused more on that rather than defeating the titular villain.

2. Season with most Ladrien screen time: Season 2

After only having most of its screen time concentrated towards the end of the season aside from "The Bubbler" and "The Mime" in season 1, Ladrien was finally able to get its moment to shine in season 2 with there being several episodes focuses extensively on Ladrien, some even surpassing Ladynoir in screen time, giving it a total of 8 min 46 sec in the entire season which is the most it will ever get as from here on out it, its screen time decreases with ever season.

3. Season with least Ladrien screen time: season 5

Ladrien already usually gets the short end of the stick in Miraculous due to it's lack of a requirement for any development, so naturally, season 5 ends up being the season with the least Ladrien screen time, with us only getting Ladrien in "Passion" with detransformed Adrien holding a Venomed Ladybug and the small scene in "Deflagration" of Adrien handing Ladybug's Miraculous to her. Hopefully, future seasons will give us more Ladrien, but I doubt it.

4. First episode Ladrien surpasses Ladynoir in screen time: Riposte

Since season 2 was the first time Ladrien ever got to shine, it also contains the episode where Ladrien surpasses Ladynoir in screen time, that being the first Ladrien-focused episode of the season, "Riposte" involving the titular villain going after Adrien, hence Ladybug having to protect him and Adrien being unable to go off somewhere to transform.

Conclusion

Well, that's it for all the love square screen time records. Let me know what you think about them and feel free to find any other notable records in love square screen time history by checking my work here. Until next time!

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On monuments and symbolism in season 5:

See this in Jubilation?

This is just after they dismiss their Jubilation dream as fake. The Eiffel Tower symbolises their duty towards Paris. They can't be together because they are superheroes.

Unless?..

When Chat Noir feels that it is ok for him to love someone who isn't Ladybug. When Marinette feels that it is ok for her to love someone who isn't distracting her and putting everything at risk.

The Statue of Liberty. They are free to love. Or so they think for a second, before they come to their senses.

Chat Noir can't be with Marinette because it would be taking advantage of his standing as basically a figure of authority. Marinette can't be with Chat Noir because, as she figures out, it makes her nearly get akumatised.

And here we are, at the end card, back to square one.

The Eiffel Tower between them, distancing them more than ever.

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not them saying their love for each other as ladybug and adrien was too heavy to bear only to turn around and have the same issue as marinette and chat noir (which we already knew but like oof for them)

love square is textbook star crossed lovers but i will storm zag studios myself if they don't get their happy ending

they will

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ok so the love square, if imagined as a combination of two love triangles, is actually a love parallelogram mathematically given that the two triangles are equilateral

[Image ID: Two black-outlined equilateral triangles that look the same attached to each other to create a parallelogram. The corners of the parallelogram are highlighted with coloured circles. The upper left corner is highlighted dark blue with 'Marinette' written on top of it. The upper right corner is highlighted red with 'Ladybug written on top of it. The lower left corner is highlighted green with 'Adrien' written below it. The lower right corner is highlighted black with 'Chat Noir' written below it. End of ID]

Why The Love Quadrilateral is a Parallelogram

Assuming that side Adrienette is equal to side Ladrien which is equal to side Ladynoir and that the angles between these sides equal By proxy of this, side maribug= side adrichat and therefore,

Triangle MAL and Triangle CLA are congruent and equal to each other

If we put them next to each other like i've shown in the figure, it's clearly a parallelogram as side Adrienette is equal and parallel to side Ladynoir and side Maribug is equal and parallel to side Adrichat. However, the angles are not 90 degrees (pi/2 radians) as the two triangles are equilateral meaning that the angles are 60 degrees (pi/3 radians)

=> the given quadrilateral is a parallelogram

Why The Love Quadrilateral Cannot Be a Square

[Image ID: Two black-outlined right angled triangles that look the same attached to each other to create a square. The corners of the square are highlighted with coloured circles. The upper left corner is highlighted dark blue with 'Marinette' written on top of it. The upper right corner is highlighted red with 'Ladybug written on top of it. The lower left corner is highlighted green with 'Adrien' written below it. The lower right corner is highlighted black with 'Chat Noir' written below it. End of ID]

For the LQ to be a square, the angles at the corners would have to be 90 degrees (pi/2 radians) and since the square has to be made of two triangles, the triangles have to be right angled triangles. Since the triangles have to be right angled, there needs to be a hypotenuse aka the longest side (in the figure, it's marichat) which,,,,i don't think we can decide objectively

It's not that the LQ *can't* be a square it's that i don't think think it can objectively be a square yk?

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people say they want a reveal but have they considered whether we as a society are ready for a reveal. we’ve spent close to a decade creating an entire fandom culture building up a divide between the sides even stronger than in canon and what are we gonna do when canon takes that wall down. are we really ready to live together in harmony. marichat and ladrien walking hand in hand. will we will have four separate lovesquare months when these separations are rendered meaningless by canon. are we adaptable enough to shift our entire way of life or will these institutions remain,,

this was not a criticism of canon nor was it an invitation for anyone else’s criticism of canon. sorry that you can’t appreciate the world’s most chaotic slow burn but i did not ask to hear about that. i want to watch these idiots stumble around blind forever. i want at least 5 more fake reveals. i want them to each have at least 2 more secret identities on top of the ones they already have. i want fandom to keep writing the most absurd accidental reveals they can think of. i want to see adrien’s face filled with wonder as he realizes his lady is marinette and i want to see marinette lose her fucking mind. i’ve read it 10,000 times and i’ll read it 10,000 more. canon can’t stop me as i will continue to be on my bullshit after the final reveal and i hope you all will too.

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