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Okakuri Deserves Rights

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Female/20+. Multi-Fandom but focus on Oshi no Ko, Steins;Gate, ML Sugar, and Sailor Moon.    MAL anime list: https://myanimelist.net/animelist/SailorLily MAL manga list: https://myanimelist.net/mangalist/SailorLily
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let me whisper one of the reasons ladrien and ladynoir make me go feral. a lot of fandom talks about marinette being unappreciated in her life and of course there’s the bane of my existence “true selves” but i think that fundamentally overlooks the fact that marinette is fucking adored and loved and well cared for by most of the people in her life. most people look at marinette and are like yes! that is someone to love!

meanwhile when she’s ladybug she has all this pressure and stress and burden that she carries but for everyone else she has to put on the face of strong and capable and able to take on anything. and of course paris loves a hero, of course paris loves their hero, but no one in the entire city knows or gets ladybug like chat noir. chat noir sees her at her lowest and worst and loves her for it. they push back at each other and support each other and ladybug is not just a figurehead but like the realest of real people to him. and so when ladybug comes to him whether he’s chat noir or adrien there’s this level of tenderness that just rips me apart like i’ll watch the last five minutes of strike back and lose my mind because we see ladybug devastated and panicking in adrien’s room while adrien works to calm her down and then we cut to chat noir reassuring her that they will fix this together and there’s nothing they can’t face and just… with him ladybug gets to fuck up and break down and he still loves her and maybe loves her more for it. idk this is not a comprehensive breakdown of why i think marinette as ladybug deserves love and recognition too or why seeing her at her alleged strongest being taken care of and loved and known intimately makes me so warm inside but i wanted to try and put it into words just a little bit.

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I still can’t get over what a great idea the Lovesquare is, for engaging people with a ship. 

Just having two characters be cute together is fairly simple, but it’s rarely enough to get people super interested in it, to get really invested in the relationship. In a lot of media, the most interesting couple, and the one that’s written about the most, isn’t the canon one that the series is actually trying to push. The canon couple often has fairly shallow interactions, the relationship between the two characters isn’t as important or emotional as between a different set of characters (this happens in Shounen a lot, with rival characters almost always thinking about each other more often, being motivated BY each other, more than the protagonist and designated love interest are).

But with Adrien and Marinette, that’s not the case. Adrien and Chat Noir both play HUGELY important roles in Marinette’s life, and Marinette and Ladybug both play very important roles in Adrien’s - especially Ladybug. They’re constantly thinking of each other and taking actions BASED on each other, are motivated by each other. The relationship between the two of them is the bedrock the series rests on, whether romantic or platonic.

And then there’s the facets that the Lovesquare adds, the added angles and dynamics. Adrienette, Ladrien, Marichat, and Ladynoir - each have their own distinctive dynamics and things going on, and interactions on one side affects how they interact in at least two other sides of the square. It keeps things interesting and complicated, as well as presenting lots of different angles to explore the relationship between these two characters, and exploring the different sides of the characters themselves in the process.

The dramatic irony of it all is also just so tasty.

Usually with any sort of secret identity superhero media the protagonist(s) and audience have roughly equal knowledge of what’s going on. Lois Lane is in the dark, but Superman knows everything we do. When she tells Clark to be braver and stop running from the action, he’s in on the joke.

With ML, and especially the love square, there’re extra layers. Marinette might be snickering at Chat’s exaggeration of an event Ladybug was present for, but at the same time she’s missing that it’s Adrien involved.

This is part of why reveal stuff can be so fun, as they start to unravel all these extra dimensions. An offhand remark to Marinette and a harmless personal detail shared with Ladybug, and suddenly the pieces click and she’s got a whole new perspective on Chat.

That’s another aspect of it, I think. An extremely frustrating part of any goofy romance is unnecessarily bad communication. If they’d just talk! ML and ML fandom is guilty of this in a lot of ways, of course, but the lovesquare enables a lot of “you played the game perfectly and still lost” scenarios. With the best of intentions and without any forced errors, there’s still so much room to spin drama and extra relationship interactions without anyone being at fault.

Chat respects Ladybug’s boundaries and stays professional, then quietly admits to his friend Mari (trustworthy Marinette, who would never tell a soul) that he has feelings that aren’t worth hurting his partnership to bring up, and suddenly she has to balance that. Marinette relaxes around Chat (her goofy partner, that she trusts with her life) and her distance from Adrien is now so painful. Ladybug hypes up a civilian by minimizing how bad the situation is without Chat, and it hits at his deepest insecurities.

And they can be trying so hard! Ladybug would never talk down her partner! Marinette is doing her very best to be a real friend to this boy! Chat is just trying to make everyone happy! They both overthink anything that might reveal their identities, not realizing that they’ve given one person every piece of the puzzle.

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Anonymous asked:

hey! so, genuinely curious, what pushed you to enjoy ladrien more as a side of the lovesquare? asking here cause ladrien’s never clicked with me, but I really want to see what I’m missing and understand/appreciate it more~

Hello! sorry, these have been in my inbox for a while but i knew it would be a long answer lol (i love ladrien a lot) so i was waiting until i could give it the proper attention. but now i would love to tell you why i absolutely love ladrien 😌 (i apologize that this has zero structure or coherency it’s literally just me babbling about ladrien for a VERY LONG TIME im sorry, i couldn’t stop,,,)

first of all, ladrien represents the dynamic that is one of the most powerful and delicious ones out there: mutual pining. as much as you might love a good friends/enemies-to-lovers slowburn, mutual pining is always where you want to end up and it is the thing that drives you absolutely BONKERS!! knowing that they Love Each Other so deeply, that they Long for each other, but they don’t know if the other person feels the same, and there’s something in the way, whatever it may be, which just makes the longing more intense? PLEASE im about to hyperventilate that is……...the Good Kush. periodt

and ladrien’s brand of mutual pining is so Pure 😭 they are both such good kids with the BIGGEST hearts and their love is literally going to save the world. if you enjoy the romantic half of ladynoir and adrienette, that’s ladrien. chat noir’s utter devotion to his lady and marinette’s pure but powerful adoration for adrien...combine those and you get the ultra-romantic, heartwarming yet semi-tragic COSMIC FORCE that is ladrien. the way that both of them continually sacrifice for each other, the way they put the other’s happiness before their own, the way they keep trying to love each other despite so many setbacks and failures, the way that at the end of the day they will always be there for the one they love, as a friend if they can’t be more, because they want to give the other person what they need…...it’s ladrien baby

im always blown away by the sheer POWER of ladrien but also by it’s beautiful, beautiful intricacies and subtleties. because of the secret identities, we are able to have mutual pining AND a slowburn at the same time. and honestly that is one of my favorite things about the ladrien dynamic!!!

just think of it. they are so completely, madly in love with each other. but they can’t tell each other, because they think that the other person barely knows them, so the most they’d have an “excuse” for is a celebrity crush, which is such a laughably weak thing compared to the devotion they actually have for each other. and of course they have their identities to protect, which means that they end up tiptoeing around each other, all the while holding back all this love they have, desperately trying to not to give themselves away. but the more they are around each other the more cracks appear in their dams and the more starts leaking out without their permission and greater the threat is that the dam will break and all the love they’re not supposed to have will come gushing out and eventually it’s inevitable and it does break...but imagine their surprise and their utter joy when they find out that it wasn’t just them—that the other person had a dam the whole time too and now they are both just drenched in love, soaked to the bone and they are so happy because being loved by this person is the cherished wish they’ve been unable to let go of for all this time and it turns out that it’s real, it’s true, it’s theirs.

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Y'all the takeaway wasn’t “Catwalker was too perfect and distracting and Chat Noir isn’t perfect and distracting which is why he’s the better partner for Ladybug” it was “Chat Noir is Ladybug’s partner. It’s not about whether or not he’s ‘the best’ for the job, it’s about him being Ladybug’s best friend and the one she CHOOSES as her partner.” After everything with Catwalker, Ladybug wasn’t thinking “Chat Noir was the perfect partner because he wasn’t so distracting” or anything related to their job, her only thought was the same as the little girl’s thoughts about Kuro Neko: “This isn’t my kitty. I miss my kitty.”

That’s far more meaningful and romantic than showing that Ladybug “needs” Chat Noir, imo. She DOESN’T “need” Chat Noir to be her partner, she could find someone else, but the one she WANTS by her side as her Cat is him and him alone. Love is about choosing each other.

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