Chloe really thought she was doing something here lol.

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Sure Frozer was brief, but also! He was forgettable. 😗

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Wrong nickname, WRONG NICKNAME!!!!

They only changed a little from the original sketch.

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Swing and a miss.

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Just get married already.

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WhAt ArE tHe OdDs?

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Philippe has unknowningly pressed the Marinette Button. Big mistake.

Dang, almost had one.

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I'd demand a refund.

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You have to dress the part, DUH!

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When you're too good of a guy.

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Evillustrator doesn't count!

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Luckily they're idiots who are correct, so, good for you two.

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Tease your way into forgetting your problems U_U

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The zodiac signs

According to the French dub of Ikari Gozen, Marinette is Leo and Kagami is Scorpio (my sign, yay!)

According to the compability site I searched, their compability is low, given that Leo is a fire sign and Scorpio a water sign (which could be reflected on the show by the fact that Ryuko hasn’t used her Fire Dragon yet), but they have a strong attraction. But they have a personality clash, as well.

This is actually very interesting when you compare it to their relationship in the show:

Kagami and Marinette are very different, yet similar at the same time. They are both of Asian heritage, girls Adrien is attracted to, and have a strong moral compass. Not to mention Riposte’s trailer made many of us think Adrien would fall for Kagami because of how similar she is to Ladybug…

But, at the same time, Marinette has far less controling parents, far more experience at friendship, and a puts friendship and doing the right thing before romance; unlike Kagami.

Although Kagami is, deep down, as kind and hospitable as Marinette is, her upbringing has made her more stoic than the pigtailed girl. Furthermore, if the Battle of the Miraculous is anything to go by, Kagami is someone who puts her personal romantic relationships with people above her platonic ones. Unlike Marinette.

Now, I’m not criticising Kagami for it. I’m just using that fact to further explain my anlysis.

Like I stated earlier, Leo and Scorpio, though strongly attracted to one another; once Kagami and Marinette had solved their issues, they hang out together as if they’d been friends for a long time; their personalities clash. 

In Frozer and Ikari Gozen, we got a glimpse of the girls’ point of view on the other: Kagami saw Marinette as someone hesitant (something she’s not a fan of) and weird, and Marinette thought the fencer was too cold. However, in Frozer and Heart Hunter, we saw that, just like Adrien and Luka, they have opposite views on love. Marinette believes in letting the object of her affections go if it means they’ll be happy, whereas Kagami actually prefers to wait for the other person and be their special someone, rather than putting someone else’s happiness before her own.

I originally just wanted to point out the extra information that comes with different dubs, but it appears I’ve managed to add my two cents on the girls’ relationship and the possible meaning behind scenes. Ooops, I did it again.

My opinion on Kagami

I’ve been wanting to do this for a while, and the latest leak we got from Jeremy only gave me more reasons to share.

Now, know that I’m not trying to roast anybody or shaming them for their opinions under any circumstances. I just want to share mine.

Nowadays, my thoughts on her are… complex. The easiest way to sum this up would be with the same point many other fans experience through Lila: hate her character but love her design. Please, put the knives down!

I don’t hate Kagami, but I’d be lying if I said I’m happy with the way she’s being handled. From my point of view, she’s very cute! From all her freckles to her bright brown eyes… Not to mention her clothes! I totally saw one of my dream outfits in hers. In terms of view, what’s not to like?

Now, the way she’s currently written… That’s another story.

In my opinion, she’s kind of gone downhill since Riposte. Then, we got a glimpse of what a healthy love rival looked like. She acknowledged Adrien’s fondness of Marinette in no time, didn’t show signs of falling head over heels for him at first sight (no easy feat for this show, tbh) and didn’t treat Marinette as a threat right away! Bonus points for fencer girl!

But ever since Frozer… Kagami’s character has turned from determined and serious to judgemental. There’s nothing wrong with a character being cold and confident, especially if they’re supposed to be good guys, but by then she had started being just another love rival.

Why is this so important to me?

Well, leaving aside the importance of the romantic factor for a show based on the confusing love story of its two main characters, because I took Feri’s words to heart. Kagami and Luka were supposed to be charming, well-rounded characters, not just love interests. And yet, I get to see that in Luka a lot more than I do in Kagami.

This meant a lot to me because every single love rival Marinette has had so far has been/is a jerk to her! How are we going to show young girls that love rivals aren’t the same as sworn enemies if a show directed to them portrays just that!

And don’t tell me that’s just how girls act because if it’s wrong to let boys insist on asking out a girl who is clearly not interested so is letting girls cat fight.

Back to the point.

While I myself prefer to see Kagami’s interaction with Marinette as tough love/advice, both Thomas and Feri explained she basically told her to step up her game, or Adrien’s hers. Which, yeah. Can be both advice AND a threat. This last statement comes from the fact that Kagami’s last interaction with Adrien in Frozer turned out to be Kagami deeming Marinette as unworthy of Adrien’s affections. Hence, the “When you see you’re wrong [about your target], I’ll be there” moment. She basically told Adrien Marinette was the wrong choice.

And then, there’s Animaestro. Now, I do not condone Chloé and Marinette’s actions at all. But Kagami was no saint either. While there’s no denying Marinette and Chloé gave her the stink-eye first, she was just as jealous as them and fueled their insecurities when she took Adrien’s arm, which is nothing bad itself, especially since it didn’t make Adrien uncomfortable (take notes Chloé & Lila), but it looked as a “take that” move, y'know? And she also kept giving Marinette the stink-eye whenever she was around Adrien, to the point where she looked outraged by her mere presence. Things we’ve seen before in Backwarder, for example.

And… *sigh* how could we forget Oni-chan?

While her rage in this episode was righteous and it wasn’t directed at Marinette, it portrayed Kagami in a light that didn’t make her justice. It could be argued jumping to conclusions makes her more human, but don’t say it’s something we only saw in this episode because this whole post is about her making assumptions of Marinette. But I must admit this time took the whole cake! Her anger was terrifying. But I need to pretend the plot-convenient plot holes don’t exist for a minute to talk about something: that reaction was way over the top.

It would, of course, be understandable if we were aware Kagami’s met Lila before and she thinks of her the same as Marinette does. But that’s not the case. Then why does she react like that?! You’d expect that after hearing Adrien practically gush about Marinette and finding her almost everywhere they go (sometimes even per Adrien’s request), she’d be more sold on the idea of Mari being the one he loves. Yet, the only explanation I’ve found online is that she thought Lila was his girlfriend. Hello???? Wouldn’t it be the normal thing to do to wonder just who the Hell is this girl you haven’t even heard of and calling Adrien to find the answer? Well, apparently not.

And now that we know Kagami will be the Dragon miraculous holder I’m a bit disappointed. Don’t worry. It has nothing to do with all this. It’s because it’s… predictable. Way too predictable.

On the one hand, it’s true a friend of mine and I headcanoned she could get the horse miraculous, and I’m a bit bummed out about it. But for the most part it is because of how predictable it is.

Leaving aside their faces, which is where the heroes become more obvious to us, the viewers, if we take Marinette’s Ladybug costume, there are still clear differences between her hero self and her civilian self. While still using polka dots, they are far less numerous or notorious than Ladybug’s and, most importantly, her main colours are white and pink, as opposed to the superheroine’s red and black.

Kagami, on the other hand, uses red and black as her primary colours in both outfits. And, on top of it, she’s an Asian fencer, so the fact that she wields the Dragon (clearly Asian-based) miraculous which includes a sword is such a surprise…

But seriously! I don’t hate her!

She clearly has some great moments such as when she helped Marinette up, or as I call it, the “move I’m gay move”, or when she stood up against Chloé. It’s just that her role in the Love Square doesn’t look like it’s balanced. Kagami can be hostile to Marinette and fuels her insecurities, as opposed to Luka and Adrien’s chilled interactions and Luka’s effect on gradually making Adrien see Marinette as more than just a friend.

Well, as always, I’ll guess we just have to wait and see.