the world needs less jealousy tropes and more polyamory
Hey so your girlfriend got put into a fandom and um, they kinda. Yeah they made her the Mean Lesbian Friend. Yeah it's entirely because she's the only girl who's not overtly caring or kind. Sorry. Also they-- yeah she's characterized entirely as a wingman for the popular gay ship. Sorry again
"This is so me lol" "I do this" this is a complaint post. This is a post complaining about when this happens. This post is about the constant 1-dimensional characterization that happens to women characters in fandom when they are not cute or nice. The last part especially is complaining about how once these women are made Mean Lesbians they are characterized entirely though their "endearingly rude" support of a relationship between two men.
this is the worst book description I’ve ever read like I’m actually having a stroke
This is just a pile of random things that are trendy. It makes no sense together.
WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE PLOT WHAT'S THE FUCKING PLOT??????
I looked up the series. The photo is the last paragraph of the synopsis. Here's the full thing. Looks like the last part is just a dump of tropes to sell the book. Something that is, unfortunately, needed for anyone on the Indy scene to get their book seen. Search results and all, you know. Not saying it sounds like a good book but it was a lot more than that last paragraph.
Wow that's actually worse.
$20 says she's 17 (19 at the ABSOLUTE oldest) and he's at least 500 years old
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I get it, I get it! It's about the fantasy of being wanted and desired as a young woman, and the coercion aspect is a way to approach sexual attraction and desire without guilt and shame! We've done this so many times!
I really do not think stories like this are best analyzed as "glorifying unhealthy relationships" because that doesn't take into account why they are being written, why people like them, and what those people are getting from the story. The generic Fantasy Bad Boy[tm] is not, in the world of the text, an abusive predator or a fascist—sometimes he is, BUT if a striking share of exchanges between reader and text are getting something completely different, you gotta pay attention to that in order to observe how This Says A Lot About Society.
"Exudes sin?" That certainly is a word choice. "Sin?" (And "exudes?")
...but seriously, these SJM clones are fantasy erotica for people who are too embarrassed or too supervised for the "Claimed by the Biker Werewolf Alpha" section of goodreads, and the reason why they seem to focus on such breathtakingly toxic dynamics has a lot to do with how wholesome and sweet have meant "there's no sex in here" for a long time, and books have had to be like "Look, this romance is edgy and taboo" to communicate that the characters want each other sexually and act upon carnal lusts.
In YA the lust part has to be even further displaced and obscured. I feel like male characters with ridiculously intense, possessive desires for the female protagonists are so common because the acknowledgement of that realm of powerful feeling is grown-up and taboo to acknowledge, and it implicitly acknowledges that the main Experiences Desire without directly attributing it to her.
Wait I just saw the title is "A Court of Ravens and Ruin" I want to dead
the wife that dies in the beginning of a movie
i have such a profound hate for stories that go 'what if just some guy like literally just some guy was thrown into these horrible circumstances with huge stakes' and then take it back and go 'haha he is not just some guy, he's the specialest little boy in the planet, last in a long line of specialest little boys, it was in his blood all along'
why does no one talk about why renee didn’t go to bella’s graduation
I mean I personally am just…not that interested in renee? she is the way she is for Plot Reasons and that’s lazy writing, but not so much that I, like. care about it.
welcome to a tried and true trope in YA and other writing: the Guilt-Free Disposable Parent
it was obvious from minute 1 that smeyer was trying to portray bella as having a distant relationship with her parents (the calling them by their first names unironically?? so weird) so that when she inevitably chose to become a vampire and leave them behind, she wouldn’t seem like an asshole to the audience.
but like. in order to take what is supposed to be THE closest familial relationship a person can have and make it distant and not a big deal, someone’s gonna have to look like an asshole. it couldn’t be bella, the POV character and protagonist we need to like. so it’s renee. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
what’s more remarkable to me is charlie. he was clearly also set up to be a Guilt-Free Disposable Parent: so comically out of touch with bella that he doesn’t realize she’s cut her hair, generally unaware of what’s going on in her life, only ever mentioned in passing unless the plot demands an Obstacle (like when she has to break his heart to run away in book 1) or some Stakes (whenever the supernatural world threatens to bust out and harm charlie. see: most of eclipse.)
but through these Obstacle and Stakes interactions, he kind of evolved into a much bigger, more three-dimensional, and more likable character than (I suspect) smeyer ever intended. and thanks in large part to Billy Burke and all the fun charlie moments in the movies, he’s now a fan favorite (and rightfully so!)
and when it comes to twilight, I’d rather celebrate the (however accidental) successes like charlie than dwell on the clumsy writing failures like renee. I see what you did there, stephenie, and I think it was stupid, and that’s about as deep as my thought process goes here.
so, yeah. it’s dumb that renee didn’t go to bella’s graduation. if they were real people with agency, that would be really shitty. but they’re not, and it’s clear stephenie just didn’t want to have renee around in eclipse (or for 95% of the books, lol.)
like next time just give your protagonist a dead mom like in every disney movie @ stephenie
harem anime but at the end all of the girls get sick of the main character and leave him to start a polycule
crime shows are like "this character is being obnoxious and causing problems by not letting police enter somewhere without a warrant, you know, like what the law says" and everyone just lets them
crime shows are like "this cop only feels bad about murdering a suspect after discovering that they were actually innocent, implying that the murder would have been okay if the person had really been guilty" and everyone just lets them
Crime shows are like “this suspect asks for a lawyer (making them seem guilty) after being harassed and beaten by the police but oh wait plot twist OF COURSE they were the criminal the whole time which makes it all okay actually” and everyone just lets them
LITERALLY and then crime shows are like "asking for a lawyer or demanding police come back with a warrant is an obvious sign of guilt instead of yknow just being your basic rights as a person" and then everyone just Believes them
hate when theyre like. *unfounds your family*
heres some shipping nonsense i can’t stand
What do you think of the "revenge bad" tropes frequently found
it actually pisses me off sooooo much when characters are like “ohhh but if i hurt or kill the bastard who made my life and others’ a living hell i’m just as bad as they are!” like grow up and shoot him what are you catholic
“but i’m too good to kill anyone! :(” i’m not. give me the gun.
in movies, when a scientist is held hostage and is forced to make a bomb or virus, like my guy, those villains don’t know shit about science. just make a gumball machine, my dude
eighth grade science fair volcano, but fancy looking
i just want once where the villain is like, you are too late, i detonated the device and instead of doom and gloom it is just confetti sparklers with abba’s waterloo playing and the scientist is like, bitch you thought
every time a scientist gets kidnapped to build a terrible weapon, they think about just bullshitting it, but then a tiny voice in the back of their mind says, but don’t you want to see if you can? don’t you want to laugh madly as you show them all? don’t you want to just go feral?
Honestly when’s the next time you’ll get this kind of grant funding?
YA books: There are 2 boys, the protagonist girl HAS to date one, but how can she choose? They are so incredibly different in every way!
The boys:
worst type of villain is ‘person who holds a fairly reasonable ideology that makes sense in context, but then a bunch of bafflingly evil stuff is added onto it in an obvious attempt to demonize that ideology’
More Cliches To Toss In The New Decade: Female characters who don’t give a shit about men, or romance, or sex, or reproduction, until they spend an hour with Lord Jerkass Esquire and suddenly dropping their entire lifeplan to pop out babies for him sounds like a great idea.