mostly for curiousity’s sake i was compiling all of the times they use a straight-on shot of stede’s bedroom windows for emotional impact but i’m realizing that a) oof they use it more than i remember, and b) not only do they use it to frame a lot of the moments that pertain to stede & ed’s relationship (& the obstacles to it), but it’s literally styled to be a fucking theatrical proscenium arch. a physical framing device that was invented to tell stories. built into the set. framing stede’s bed. and two windows. stede pulling open the grand drape in episode one and basically spelling out, “this is going to the heart of this story.” LIKE
Aziraphale’s bookshop
Aziraphale collected books. If he were totally honest with himself he would have to have admitted that his bookshop was simply somewhere to store them. He was not unusual in this. In order to maintain his cover as a typical second-hand book seller, he used every means short of actual physical violence to prevent customers from making a purchase. Unpleasant damp smells, glowering looks, erratic opening hours - he was incredibly good at it.
I was examining all of the statues in Crowley’s flat in the hope of finding the promised “wrestling” statue, which is at one end of a hallway:
I think that hallway goes about all the way through his flat,
and at the other end of it there’s this statue,
which looks like the statue from the bombed church:
and which we know survived the bombing because we see it intact behind Aziraphale when he has his epiphany.
I didn’t think a single hallway could contain a statue I’d find more loaded than the evil-triumphing-over-good one, but kudos to the design team for making that happen.
Even just from the most surface-level possible analysis of that, there’s a sculpture representing a struggle between their powers at one end of the hallway and a sculpture associated with cooperation at the other. I love it.
*Waneking intensifies*
I would say that’s beautiful thunderbird art.
I’m seeing lots of speculation that this is Cas related, but … I’m sure that’s a thunderbird? A pretty important part of (some) Native American myths for slightly varied reasons, but considering we have a Native American dreamwalking character in this episode, I suspect it’s relevant to the idea of being a the link between this world and the underworld.
The fact that it’s framed with Dean in the foreground seems to emphasise his ongoing connection with death this season, but hey, context is important! I’d love to know where in the episode this falls, it could be foreshadowing or just subtly reminding the audience of an ongoing plot thread.
oh @kayanem thank you for pointing this out.
Now that we’ve seen the episode, I’m wondering if it might be specifically a rendering of a Lakota Thunderbird? since Derek seems to be Lakota (he says the word wasi’chu) and they are in that area. It seems most likely to me. I wiiiish they would give Kaia a specific ancestry. I don’t really want to speculate on that, though I will say that I’m fairly certain Yadi has Latinx ancestry… anyway, so I’m thinking Lakota is what they would go for if they like, were directing the artist to do specific Thunderbird symbols/imagery. My dad’s side is First Nations but I don’t have any authority whatsoever on Lakota legends (though a lot of it has similarities to many other Thunderbird stories). I can share what I’ve researched, recognizing, of course, the spiritual context, which I don’t wish to denigrate or misrepresent.
As far as I can tell, Thunderbird could be called wankinyan in Lakota. At least one source (John Lame Deer in 1969–so I don’t know anything about the context of his interpretation, but it does seem to be just about the easiest semi-reliable source to find, so if one art department was looking, this would likely be what they find) has said that there are actually four thunderbirds, one for each of the cardinal directions. Going off of that, this seems to fits best as a representation of the thunderbird of the south, which is said to be white and/or blue. (and also to have no eyes or ears, though the thunderbird can still see and hear).
But there’s no telling if it was meant to be that specific. It could be just a symbol of great power. Thunderbirds are generally considered very powerful, even to have the power of life and death by some. And, according to John Lame Deer, if you dream of them, you get a little of their power.
Also according to John Lame Deer, sometimes they scare you, but they do it to test your courage during a vision quest (which he calls “crying for a dream”), and they are good spirits that like to help people.
In more than one version of the myth, thunderbirds show a protector capacity by defeating water monsters (specifically in this myth it’s Unktehi and her little water monsters) that are threatening humans (in John Lame Deer’s explanation of the myth, the thunderbirds defeated them with fire).
(It’s interesting then that the Bad Place seems a sort of Purgatory 2.0 when the Thunderbird seems to me basically the antithesis to the Leviathan, which were essentially water monsters that came from Purgatory)
But anyway, thunderbirds are connected to rain (storms, thunder, lightning), fire, and the truth. So this mural could be pointing to something having to do with one of those; it could also just be representing a link between the natural and supernatural worlds, as thunderbirds are (in my understanding, and I think in the Lakota tradition), a more spiritual being than physical. It’s even said that it’s impossible to see a thunderbird, or at least the entire form at once. And finally, the Thunderbird is said to have a contrary nature (like the weather), and thus, in the Lakota tradition, if one dreams of a thunderbird they are destined to become a heyoka (described as a sacred clown that does the opposite of what is expected). It is also said that if you have a vision of regular birds, you are destined to become a medicine person. (Interestingly, there are also regular birds in the mural (or perhaps little thunderbirds like those that joined in the fight against the water monsters)). (Those are birds, right? I know in some Pacific Northwestern traditions the Thunderbird has what I guess could be described as yellow lightning snakes that come out of the wings, so I suppose it could be an abstract representation of that, but I think they’re supposed to be birds). (Also according to my shoddy googling on the Lakota, yellow is also sometimes cited as the “color” of the southern direction (though sometimes of East..), so that’s two things possibly pointing south although I have no idea what the relevance of that could be).
So yeah. I don’t really know where the idea of a thunderbird fits into the show, but I love the idea that that’s what this is meant to represent. I think it’s just a little nod and not really going to go anywhere, although now that I’m thinking about it, I suppose the giant footprint we saw in the Bad Place could be from a giant bird… though I sort of… hope not…
Though, TPTB have hinted that Kaia has a connection to this world which she doesn’t understand yet. I suppose this could be foreshadowing.. maybe she draws her power from her dreams of the bad place, or maybe through the creatures there, she will learn about herself. Or it could be just a one-off symbolic representation of Kaia and her powers, or nothing I’ve brought up. Just thought I’d put forward some thoughts on the subject.
*Waneking intensifies*
I would say that’s beautiful thunderbird art.
I’m seeing lots of speculation that this is Cas related, but … I’m sure that’s a thunderbird? A pretty important part of (some) Native American myths for slightly varied reasons, but considering we have a Native American dreamwalking character in this episode, I suspect it’s relevant to the idea of being a the link between this world and the underworld.
The fact that it’s framed with Dean in the foreground seems to emphasise his ongoing connection with death this season, but hey, context is important! I’d love to know where in the episode this falls, it could be foreshadowing or just subtly reminding the audience of an ongoing plot thread.
Y’all Wanek really got into horseshoes this season. They’re literally everywhere. I wish I had kept screenshots of all of them. *files away for later*
Horseshoes are meant to keep away the devil, aren’t they--beyond just providing good luck in general?
Guess who was super thirsty for Ruby´s Springs this episode? (Kit Verson, or the kid version)
All the water in there was Ruby Springs.
So in light of this, I of course was very curious if the water Dean was drinking was also Ruby Springs.
…But no, he was taunting Cole with ‘Emerald River’ water.
“Emerald River” like the Emerald City? Given the way Charlie was such an anvilicious Dean mirror earlier this season, this is good news. Charlie figured out how to achieve balance. I will ponder this later.
Scans of TVGuide Comic Con issue from SpoilerTv
useful for fanfiction reference :)
This is so awesome.
*heart eyes*
I wanna marry Jerry Wanek
Hi :) I really love your metas, i could spend days reading it, you're really amazing :) I notice certain things (especially in set design) but otherwise I kinda suck at it, so I wanted to ask if there's something I can do to be better at it? Like know something about structure of stories, tv tropes and I don't know what else? Could you give me some tips on what to read and which information should I know to understand the story more?
Hi Nonny, thanks for the message!
There’s really no right way to go about analyzing film/tv, so bear in mind that this is just the angle I come at it from because of my background in screenwriting.
As a rule, so long as you can back up your interpretations with examples from the media in question, you’re golden. If you can’t back up your interpretations? Then they’re headcanons—and that’s fine, too.
Now that the disclaimery portion of the reply is out of the way, you can find my actual response under the cut :)
Jerry Wanek on Supernatural in the December 2010 - January 2011 issue of Perspective: The Journal of the Art Directors Guild
Everything has a purpose and a purpose for every thing.
Incredibly useful floorplans: Bobby’s house in Sioux Falls and the MoL bunker in Lebanon—the latter being the show’s actual production plan (basically Jerry Wanek trying to convert Ben Edlund’s fantasy into affordable reality). Larger versions to be found on the SuperWiki here and here. Share & enjoy!
“I know that’s not the room from The End does anyone know if there was a motel that looked like that?" (via elizabethrobertajones )
I guess it looks like “In the beginning,” precisely the room where Cas was besides Dean when he was sleeping with his jacket indeed covering him.
….
Well then.
(Part 1; Stupid Tumblr Eatin' My Asks) Heya! You're fantastic and your meta is a godsend, including all the links to other metas. I read it all and I just can't stop thinking about it. My eyes are still sore ;_; but that's not the point. I wanted to ask where you think SPN is heading with Dean/Cas relationship in S10 and if you're still optimistic about Destiel.
(#2!) Also all that stuff about lighting is crazy good, and I was wondering how you’re able to analyze and process their meanings in regards to the scenes set designers (?) use them for. I think the whole bi thing is touched upon more blatantly in scenes with greater gravitas (i.e. the cut to Naomi’s office and the fact that one portion of her wall is pretty much a giant bi pride flag) where it matters. What of the subtler uses, even beyond pride colors as ; do they carry as much significance?
(#3; Sorry this is so long, I just wanted to add a tiny tidbit, as well) I guess this goes into colors as meaning, as well, what with the variation in Deans clothing and certain set pieces displaying certain sets of colors (blue/purple/pink). I think I lost where I was going with this, sorry if this makes no sense… either. Heh. I fell down the meta rabbit hole last night and I guess I’m still stuck. ;_;
Thanks, Nonny—and sorry it took me a while to get back to you!
Because of reasons, I’ll address parts two and three before circling back to part one… and I’ll do it under a cut because it got long. My bad.