this is hilarious for so many reasons bc my post was literally just “leftist antisemitism exists and stalin was antisemitic”, this dude tried to use a wikipedia page for the jewish autonomous oblast as a reason why the guy who hunted jews totally wasn’t antisemitic, and when i gave him an npr article educating him about how the jao was actually a massive failure and resulted in more antisemitism, he decided that was “supporting fascism and colonialism.” i guarantee this dude is talking about israel and is assuming that because i’m jewish i automatically personally suck bibi netanyahu’s dick. like sir just call me a (((zionist))) and get it over with.

anyway this is why jews don’t trust leftists, bc y’all literally go out of your way to harass us. “i was shown this post as part of the algorithm” maybe because you interact with a lot of posts from jews, and my guess is you’re not commenting in support of them.

this was two years ago.

Oh holy crap, I straight up didn't notice. Good Lord.

major congrats to my friend the conversion student who found out at shabbat tonight that he's probably actually jewish because he mentioned his ancestors, the *goldbergs who left germany in ww2* and when we were like "um" he proceeded to describe multiple 'weird family traditions' that are just nibbles of judaism

Same thing happened to a friend of a friend! He's Latino and had mysterious family traditions like lighting candles every Friday night and making what are basically kosher versions of different foods, so needless to say his Jewish girlfriend (now fiancee!) had a big "uhhh" moment when she found out about all this. He'd already been drawn to converting and got pretty emotional when he found out his ancestors were conversos.

you will not be surprised to learn that not only was the commercial spot in question not “about how we all need to stand with Israel”, but israel & palestine are not referenced or alluded to in any way whatsoever.

here’s the ad:

it’s not even an ad primarily about antisemitism. it’s a campaign called “Stand Up To All Hate” about standing up to racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, sexism, antisemitism, etc.—all hate, as the name suggests.

and, for a split second, there’s a kid wearing a kippah. that’s it. shaq appeared in an ad where a kid wears a kippah and that is what is getting him accused of “supporting genocide”

For anyone unable to watch the video atm, I didn't even notice the kippah on first viewing, and I was literally looking for it. There's also a woman in a hijab featured as well, and many of the speakers are POC. It has a good amount of diversity in it, at least considering how short the ad is.

For the message itself, I have some hearing problems so this may not be verbatim, but the dialogue after the coaches call 'timeout' and Shaq starts talking (and with every sentence/clause being spoken by a new speaker):

I don't even know what to tell you at this point. It makes no mention, allusion, or implication toward Palestine or Israel at all. People are criticizing a black man for speaking up against bigotry - against antisemitism specifically, in their own words - and saying he'd support a genocide if paid enough. That is so beyond gross that I don't really know how to respond.

This post is a fantastic opportunity to check in on our critical thinking and research skills in a time when we’re seeing more misinformation than ever!

My message here is, if you’re feeling a big emotion, always remember:

You are severely misrepresenting literally every single screenshot you provide of the FCAS newsletter (which can be found in its entirety here), often in ways that are directly contradicted even in the words of the screenshots themselves.

Does FCAS “consistently conflate” all Jews with Israel?

Actual evidence of the claim that the FCAS “consistently conflate[s] all Jewish people with the country, leaders, and policies of Israel”, are notably absent from the actual newsletter. Reading through the entire thing, there isn’t a single instance in which an actual criticism of a specific Israeli policy or leader is antisemitic. the ONLY time Israeli leadership is even mentioned is in a screenshot of an antisemitic tweet doing exactly that (conflating Jews with Israeli government) by accusing Netanyahu and “God’s Chosen”, the Jews, of “betraying” Trump because Jews voted overwhelmingly Blue:

It’s tweets like that, scapegoating Jews (whether in America or in Israel) for the results of the US presidential election and playing into tropes about dual loyalty & the stabbed in the back myth, that provide the context for the first screenshot you showed, where you have cherrypicked the phrase “support of the Jewish people and Israel” to pretend FCAS is saying “any criticism of Israel is antisemitic”.

In reality, if you go back to the heading of that section, and even the first line, it’s clear what FCAS is actually focused on there: Jewish voters being the target for ire from both the left and right for the way they voted, in America:

It’s true that blaming Harris’s loss on Netanyahu & Israel is a conspiracy theory that makes zero sense if you think about it for even two seconds (however critical one might be of Biden & Harris’s foreign policy, Trump promised to be worse), and finding a way to reach & blame the result of the entire US election on Jewish individuals; whether “all Jews” or “some Jews”, whether in the Israeli government or not, still is an example of scapegoating Jews for the outcomes of US politics, and that it is something you can and should expect an antisemitism watchdog group to point out. but that’s not really what FCAS is focused on.

look at how this is framed: in a section about Jewish voters facing backlash for how they voted, FCAS shows rightwing tweets reacting negatively to a poll showing the fact that 79% of Jews voted for Harris, followed by leftwing tweets saying Harris’s platform was “genocide”—the implication of which is that voting for Harris is voting for genocide. the logical end conclusion of saying that when 79% of Jews voted for Harris, is the accusation that 79% of Jews voted for genocide—an accusation I personally have seen before and after the election.

far from “conflating Jews and Israel”, here we see an instance of FCAS providing a very blunt example of that conflation as an example of antisemitism from the right, and of people abusing criticism of the Israeli government in ways that rope a majority of Jews who aren’t even in Israel into the blame for its actions (the same conflation, just with extra steps) as an example of antisemitism from the left.

“Conflating Jews with Israel”

But while we’re talking about it, the idea of “conflating the Jewish people and Israel” as you are presenting it is an inherently problematic misrepresentation of what was said and what that phrase even means.

In its original form, the idea of “conflating Jews with Israel” is a Jewish criticism of the dual loyalty trope (treating Jews as suspicious or assigning guilt to Jews due to association—real or perceived—with Israel) primarily, and secondarily, philosemitic support for the Israeli government/military as a substitute for actions that provide actual care for Jewish individuals in more tangible/direct ways. What it means is that we are not a hivemind that slavishly serves a foreign nation at the cost of the countries we live in, and that support for Israel is not a substitute for supporting Jews. It does not mean that the Jewish people as a whole is not deeply connected to or does not identify with Israel—the land, the country, and its people—or that acknowledging any overlap or alignment between Jews and Israel is somehow problematic.

The simple reality is that there is a MASSIVE overlap between the two and most Jews do view themselves as connected to Israel. This is not my opinion; it is an empirical fact supported by all available data. Nearly HALF of the entire Jewish population in the world lives in Israel, and practically every Jew that doesn’t either has friends/family in Israel, or is close with someone else who does. When polled, the overwhelming majority (80-90%) of Jews consistently say they have long-standing connections to Israel, care about Israel, that doing so is an important or essential part of being Jewish and of their identity, that Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state, and even that the US should support Israel in some way. Many of the kosher items that Jews in the diaspora need to follow kosher laws and live a Jewish life are manufactured/produced in Israel because that’s where the largest most concentrated population of Jews lives; it’s the only place where that kind of infrastructure can exist at scale. So in a real, material, practical, literal sense, what affects Israel affects Jews. This is not incompatible with the fact that many Jews—myself included—are critical of Netanyahu, of Likud, and the actions of the IDF, and other aspects of the Israeli government.

But the weaponization of this phrase against Jews to problematize any acknowledgment of this overlap or reference to shared interest between Israel and the Jewish people is a bastardization of this criticism. It’s also a bastardization that, ironically, is falling into exactly the dual loyalty trope it exists to criticize.

Because when you see a Jew or a Jewish organization simply acknowledge the overlap between Jews and Israel, or point out how a specific criticism of Israel is rooted in a specific antisemitic trope, and you conflate that criticism of antisemitism or support for Israel (in the sense of being a country—support for the people there, & their right to live in peace) that most Jews share with the worst of the individual politicians & policies in the Likud government, in that case, you are treating Jews’s benign love of a country—its people, its culture—as inherently suspect & sinister & accusing that Jew of having “blind support” for (ie, a dual loyalty to) the Israeli government that they haven’t really expressed.

“Israel Means Government; Palestine Means People”

There’s also another weird conflation—or rather a rhetorical splitting—happening here that I’ve noticed is common in the Israel/Palestine discourse (ubiquitously on the Pro-Palestine side, mostly at the more extreme/conservative end of the Pro-Israel side), in regards to the distinction between a country, its government, and its people.

For some reason, according to the way you are treating FCAS and their criticism of Cornell & Columbia faculty, “Pro-Israel” automatically means “Pro- the worst policies & people in the Israeli Government”, but “Pro-Palestine” is never meant to be understood as “Pro- the worst actions & people from the Gazan government (i.e. Hamas)”. (even in the case, as with the listed antisemitic faculty, where they have actually said deranged things in defense/support of Hamas itself)

You can’t have it one way with one country and another way with the next. If Palestine is the Palestinians and not Hamas, then Israel is the Israelis and not Likud; if Israel is the Israeli government and not the Israelis, then Gaza is Hamas and not the Gazans.

Even pretending for a second that these faculty members had not said anything antisemitic, this framing of “Pro-Israel = Pro-Netanyahu/Likud/policy/killing Palestinians, but Pro-Palestine = Pro-Palestinian” is still a double standard, and one I think anyone would be forgiven if they couldn’t help but notice, happens to be erasing the peoplehood of half the world’s Jews and the more than 2 million Arabs living in Israel.

Antisemitic Faculty

Personally I think this is the most egregious misrepresentation here.

You claim “the newsletter is saying: opposing Israel is antisemitic. Being pro-Palestine is antisemitic” but that is just a bald face lie. The newsletter is very explicit about what they’re saying is antisemitic and even cites and links to its sources, which if you spent any time looking at, is shocking in its brazen antisemitism.

So let’s walk through this point by point:

Cheyfitz’s framing of Palestine as a “Colonizer Vs Indigenous” issue with rhetoric like “Gaza, Indigeneity, Resistance” and calling Zionism “Settler-Colonialism” is an erasure of Jewish indigeneity. This is an erasure of Jewish history and Jewish identity, which is antisemitic

As if that weren’t bad enough, here are just a few of the deranged things he’s tweeted over the years:

You keep saying it’s FCAS “conflating Jews and Israel” but here is Eric Cheyfitz, the person you’re claiming is just “Pro-Palestine”; he’s the one saying Jews. That is antisemitic.

He routinely engages in Holocaust Inversion, calling Jews Nazis and appropriating Jewish suffering in the Holocaust to project it onto Palestinians. This is DARVO directed at Jewish trauma, and that is antisemitic.

He calls Hamas, which massacres and tortures Palestinians and Jews alike, which has passages about Jewish Free Mason control of the world quite literally cribbed from Nazi propaganda & about hunting Jews to the ends of the earth in their charter “freedom fighters” “the resistance” “leaders”. This is antisemitic.

Okay, but what about the other guy, Joseph Massad?

He’s written multiple racist screeds in Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye, and Electronic Intifada—all organizations with ties to Hamas—about how the Jews aren’t the real Jews, and don’t experience antisemitism, and actually Palestinians are the Jews nows

It’s just repackaged Khazar Theory—the same antisemitic conspiracy theory that the antisemitic doomsday cult Aum Shinriyko, Christian Identity white supremacists, and Kanye West believe—with more Holocaust Inversion sprinkled in

All of this is pretty cut and dry antisemitism, and FCAS is entirely right to call it out.

in further refutation of the idea that FCAS or Robert Kraft are saying being Pro-Palestinian is antisemitic, here’s an earlier addition on this post going over the millions in aid that Kraft gives to orgs that help Palestinians

you will not be surprised to learn that not only was the commercial spot in question not “about how we all need to stand with Israel”, but israel & palestine are not referenced or alluded to in any way whatsoever.

here’s the ad:

it’s not even an ad primarily about antisemitism. it’s a campaign called “Stand Up To All Hate” about standing up to racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, sexism, antisemitism, etc.—all hate, as the name suggests.

and, for a split second, there’s a kid wearing a kippah. that’s it. shaq appeared in an ad where a kid wears a kippah and that is what is getting him accused of “supporting genocide”

aaaand of course exactly the people that ad is directed at found my post

here’s the thing. even if literally everything this person said and more were true, the accusations leveled against Shaq, which my post was responding to, do not follow from what they said.

A reminder, the claim was that Shaq did a commercial spot:

…none of which is supported by the attempted character assassination of Robert Kraft or the FCAS.

FCAS could have been founded by Meir Kahane himself and that would not change the fact that nothing in the ad Shaq appeared in promoted Israel, its government, its military actions, told anyone to support Israel, made the claim that not supporting Israel was antisemitism, or made any statement that could in any way be understood as advocating for any genocide by any even semi-reasonable person. even if you believe FCAS’s position is “any criticism of Israel is antisemitic”, nothing in the ad made any reference to Israel or criticism of Israel, even in passing. the word antisemitism didn’t even appear in the ad outside of the name of the organization; the only reference to antisemitism or Jews in the ad itself was the appearance of a visibly Jewish child for a fraction of a second in a half minute ad that featured multiple other minorities, including Black, Asian, Muslim, and disabled people.

and that would be the case even if what they were claiming about Kraft and FCAS were true. But, of course, those are bullshit too.

they claim that Robert Kraft is

…none of which is true.

I can find zero evidence of any specific statement from Kraft that expresses anything approaching hatred or racialized animosity for the Palestinian people, or saying that any criticism of Israel is inherently antisemitic.

What I can find is people like this chucklefuck making that claim with zero evidence, and articles about Kraft pulling funding from Columbia after the leadership didn’t adequately address antisemitism & safety concerns on campus.

“What antisemitism & safety concerns?” you may ask. People telling Jewish students to “go back to Poland”, calling them “baby-killers” (which is blood libel), and the self-described “militants of Hinds Hall” locking people in buildings they were forcibly occupying, obstructing campus grounds, and openly voicing support for officially designated terrorist organizations such as Hamas & the PFLP. That’s it. Those are pretty cut-and-dry safety & antisemitism issues.

Oh, and those awful terrible evil MILLIONS supposedly going to “The Occupation”? Yeah, no. they went to a couple startup incubators that support underrepresented groups in Israel including Palestinians and Arab Israelis, and an Israeli kids football program.

idk, donating millions to groups that provide financial support to Palestinian-owned businesses doesn’t sound like the actions of someone who’s trying to exterminate the Palestinian people. it sounds like this person just heard “Israeli” and blacked out

I can find zero evidence of him “donating millions” to Israeli settlement efforts in either of the Palestinian territories (the only thing that could reasonably be described as “The Occupation”), so they’re either deceptively referring to any existence of Israel whatsoever as “The Occupation”—tipping their hand that they themself are the one advocating for the destruction of an entire national group & not Kraft or Shaq—or just pulling shit out of their ass.

after all that, I only have one question for the people spreading these lies:

fixed it.

If ripping down flags and racism warrants the proper response of a lynch mob...

what kind of response does the october seventh attack warrant?

Full surrender to Islamic terrorism and the dismantling of the Jewish State. Obviously.

there is something deeply fucking wrong with you people. (it’s antisemitism. that’s the thing that’s wrong with you)

I don’t agree with the antisemitism but I agree that Israel needs to stop

you could have stopped at “i don’t agree with the antisemitism.”

(In response to text in the images)

Do these people just flat out have no idea what the fuck they're talking about?

Carpet bombing is a fuckload more intense than anything Israel has done, ever. They've been using precision munitions for the most part and giving more warning than any other nation has ever, so even if it was truly carpet bombing, they'd still not be in the wrong. However, Israel has been using targeted strikes. Just because it's a lot of strikes doesn't mean it's carpet bombing, which would be especially hard considering Israel's distinct lack of bombers. While possible to do it without them, that ain't what's happening.

Using terrorist communicators, that were going specifically to terrorists, as weapons against them is completely reasonable and legal under the laws of war. And being that explosives were placed inside of the pagers before they left the factory, no, it really didn't take much in terms of non-physical hacking.

Oh, so just the soldiers, huh? I'm calling bullshit considering you're supporting 2 organizations that want Jews dead globally.

Sounds like a lot of coping and malding to me

"I oppose genocide. Also, I want an entire nation to no longer exist, and support a group that has violently and directly attacked Israeli civilians for decades." Of course they misuse "carpet bombing". Words mean whatever is convenient at the time, apparently.

Don't you get they were supposed to just let the attacks happen and not retaliate/s

I've seen a few people say Israel should just magically be able to respond with absolutely no civilian casualties. Strangely enough, I don't remember a single one of those people who discussed the civilians Hamas targeted and murdered, unless they were somehow victim-blaming Israel.

Domestic abuse and violence against women are rightfully condemned, loudly and publicly, as utterly criminal and wrong under any circumstances. However abuse doesn’t stop there. There are countless forms of less obvious, insidious abuse that affects people of both genders, non-physical abuse that most of us are kinda expected to just put up with. Especially men.

The hashtag #maybeshedoesnthityou is trending on Twitter, and it’s a real eye-opener. Men are sharing their personal stories of manipulation and emotional abuse, and it’s highlighting all kinds of problematic behavior. (Source)

PLEASE RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS OF ABUSE!

Women are more than capable of being physically and emotionally abusive. i see it a lot as a paramedic and it is so hard for men to admit or face up to. As a woman i will call a woman on it just as fast as i will a man. Abuse is abuse, no matter who is doing it.

fucking australia’s trying to get everyone to link their government id to their social media accounts else you cant use them anymore, the actual fuck is wrong with this country

please, actually, get fucking mad over this, the entirety of australia basically just banned all social media for anyone who doesnt want to give up their privacy to the government, there was no vote on this, no nothing, they just went ahead and fucking passed this ridiculously privy law and barely anybody’s talking about it the actual fuck

okay so to actually explain what exactly is happening, it’s an age thing. theyve used ‘protect the children’ and ‘let kids be kids’ as a weapon again. anyone under 16 is banned from social media, but to enforce this they have openly admitted everyone will need to link their government id to their social media. this whole ‘protect the kids’ thing was a very obvious trojan horse for getting ppl to give up their privacy.

and yknow, that alone is a very shitty law even without the whole surrendering your private information to the government thing.

theyve made outside uninhabitable, there’s nowhere left to go. public areas have degenerated, theyve turned hanging out into a crime with loitering, streets feel unwalkable sometimes, parents are more wary of letting their kids walk around on their own than they used to be, and now theyre trying to ban one of the main ways kids manage to distract themselves inside the house.

when i was 15 i was depressed and lonely, unable to leave the house very far, no friends, nobody. the one place that helped me feel less alone was online communities. i wouldve killed myself if it werent for the support i recieved on there. and now theyre trying to ban that for future generations, in a world that hates them being both outside and inside.

and even still, this is still a fucking trojan horse to get you to give up your privacy.

some proper info on this bullshit

Jewish men draped in prayer shawls perform the Cohanim prayer during Pesach at the Western Wall in the Old City of Jerusalem. Thousands of Jews make the pilgrimage to Jerusalem during the eight-day Pesach holiday, which commemorates the Israelites’ exodus from slavery in Egypt some 3,500 years ago and their plight by refraining from eating leavened food products. Photos by Menahem Kahana

Not many of the boycotts get under my skin and it may just be due to stress from moving and the recent events in Europe but holy fucking boycott batman, they're trying to boycott Mary (2024) which hasn't even releases yet.

I don't know much about it, however it follows Mary (the religious figure) after she gives birth to Jesus and has to flee.

Now let's lay some facts out first.

Both Jesus and Mary were jewish, not Palestinian. They lived in Judea, centuries before Palestine existed. Jesus and Mary also practiced and followed judaism.

There are a few reasons as to why people are boycotting, all equally silly and due to Mary being played by an Israeli Jewish actress.

Some people are ignoring fact and are claiming Mary was in fact Palestinian. To them, the movie is participating in a historical inaccuracy and erasing Palestinian history.

For anyone who actually knows the history more than reading an Instagram post, knows that, like we've established, Mary was a jew from Judea and not Palestinian. I also find it racist to think that Palestinians cannot have their own history and have to piggyback off of another culture. Palestinian history should be taught and represented in the media, without having another groups history rebranded as Palestinian to give legitimacy. Palestinian history should have legitimacy on its own.

The other reason for the boycott is the Israeli jewish actor playing her, Noa Cohen.

And to this I have a few thoughts.

Firstly, I thought (and still do) that the best representation in media is when a character is portrayed by someone of the same identity. Israel is the closest thing to modern day Judea. You aren't going to get any better rep than that.

Secondly, people need to understand that you are going to be uncomfortable at times!!! If an Israeli person being in a movie makes you uncomfortable, tough fucking titties just cope. Israeli citizens are not their government and it is bigoted to think so. So just learn to cope.

I have zero clue if she served in the IDF or not, but if she has and that's a factor in the boycott, I need people to also just cope. Most Israelis have served. By banning every Israeli who has served from being in movies and shows, you are banning the majority of Israelis from a whole profession.

What the actual fuck???

Have the dipshits bitching about the movie ever read their Bible? Like clearly this is a movie based around Christianity, one would ASSUME anyone paying attention to it (and the many people not paying attention but having grown up in a Christian household) would know that Mary is Jewish. Like... that's a real big part of WHY MARY GAVE BIRTH IN A FUCKING BARN.

I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but "Jesus and associated people were actually Palestinian" is not a new take among the "Antizionist" cult; I've been seeing it for over a decade. And they're not alone--literally every historical and biblical figure who was historically Jewish was apparently "actually" Palestinian--including King David, Moses, and Abraham.

#jumblr#poli#tw antisemitism#yeah ALOT of anti-israel people think this is “zionist propaganda”#theyve been erasing the jewishness of mary and jesus for years now#so many people don't even know there was ancient jewish kingdoms predating palestine#my hamsnik sister was a history major and president of a history students union and didnt know either#despite us growing up anglican and being taught about that from a young age#there is a lot of historical education that straight up erases it#i had to give up on encyclopedia bittanica for falling for that#they call the land prior to roman occupation and the fall of the second temple and their renaming it syria palestina by the name palestine#even thousands of years before it existed under that name#the names the land was called before modern palestine#from canaan until syria palestina matter too#to aknowledge when the land's name changed (even though to jews it remained eretz yisrael-the land of israel)#is not anti palestinian to acknowledge real palestinian history (which is long and complex and important on it's own)#but it *is* antisemitic to write jews out of history#especially for the benefit of another group#anyways: CHRISTIAN FRIENDS GO SEE THE MOVIE!!!! BRING FRIENDS AND FAMILY!!!!#im so happy to see a jewish woman cast as mary for once

@gay-jewish-bucky, your tags remind me of this comic:

Oh they caught me! They figured it out! My post warning people about the possible dangers of hallucinogenics if you have certain genetic history was actually part of my big evil jew plan to make people like israel more!

bro i can’t rn…

i personally am predisposed to several physical and mental illnesses due to genetic reasons, these conditions are seen more commonly in specific ethnic populations largely due to epigenetic reasons, intergenerational trauma etc…

there is no substance i could take that would suddenly pierce through some invisible veil and give me some transcendent knowledge about my ancestry… and thinking that way might actually be indicative of magical thinking but idk man… i’ve dealt with psychosis as a part of my mental illness cocktail since I was 15, and psychoactive/hallucinogenic substances might induce and make me feel positively about a psychotic episode but they could just as easily send me into a state of intense paranoia, give me frightening delusions, and destabilize me. i was told since i was a young teenager that these kinds of substances can be very dangerous for people like me, we are more vulnerable, and i have felt myself pushed into that danger zone before. when/if i choose to take something i know i am taking a risk and that’s also part of my struggle and seems to be common amongst psychotics is substance-seeking…

also worth mentioning that i feel it’s a lot easier to lean into antisemitic beliefs if that’s your cultural context and you are psychologically/cognitively are predisposed to delusional, suspicious, paranoid and hyper-associative thinking… not saying OMG PSYCHOTIC PEOPLE ARE MORE ANTISEMITIC because, hi, psychotic jew here, but… idk hopefully this makes sense.

this was missing the incredibly important next picture where she got mad at the camera like its their fault she bit the soap