I'm uncomfortable with this. People who totally quietly and without a lot of fuss talk about being abused, online, and to lash out at a fictional character and his fans. It doesn't seem to me to be the place or the place to expose such sensitive topics, let alone use them in this context. And beyond that I don't find it fair to use topics like this to impose one's own view on a ship or a character and claim that it is the 'only way and the right way to confront that. Perhaps you should realize that it is not. TVA is in some of its parts a dom/sub relationship with sexual kinks. If you want to talk about abuse you have to talk about the part of TVA where the coven is present or the 'beginning where there is the abduction by the Turks. But of course it is not that interesting because the former is religious trauma and the latter is too short! Second of all, if you are so bothered by the Marius/Armand because you think it is abuse then you should also be bothered by the devil's Minion because, in fact, this relationship in the books on one hand is abuse. If somenthing so horrible have happen to someone you deserve respect and all the love, support and care in the world, you don't need to lash out online about your personal things, for make a point. Just take care of yourself instead.
Hello! I adore your VC artwork, especially your works with Armand and Marius. I feel you capture Marius’s face so wonderfully. And your style and thoughts intrigue me. I don’t know if you do requests so forgive me in advance if not, but if so, I’d love to see a work in your style of when Amadeo pressed his cheek to Marius’s cheek when he had a fever. (Such a sweet little moment) Thanks!
Thank you very much, anon, you are very kind and I apologize for the delay in replying. I was hoping to have time to paint this moment between Marius and Armand and combine it with your words, unfortunately this last period has taken me away from being able to paint fanart of the chronicles. I hope to find time to paint this moment. But you know I am extremely slow, a mini sloth in painting!Consider this also, but I will try to do as soon as possible. Thanks again
Never fear again - Marius x Armand ( fanart © malisvaart )
“Amadeo was destined for me. […] Yet in his mute expression now I saw pure trust. “Master,” he said softly in the Russian tongue. I felt the tiny hairs rise all over my body. I wanted so to touch him once more with my cold fingers but I did not dare. I knelt beside the bed and leant over and I kissed his cheek warmly. “Amadeo,” I said to him so that he might know his new name.” - BaG p.421-423 for @anepotter
amadeo :
I'm thinking of the time that passed between this moment in TVL:
... and this moment in Blood Communion:
There was a time when Marius raised Lestat from his grave, and then came a time, when Lestat helped Marius out of his coffin. I see something incredibly beautiful about this.
(Yes, but also Lestat's very first thought was about Armand:
This golden retriever boy is the biggest marimand shipper ever, OK?)
One thing bothers me deeply, these fans of the show who keep associating the figure of the canonical Marius from Anne's books with the Rashid character from the show. Stop it, with this idiocy, and with painting Marius' severed head. You people are ridiculous. The canonical Marius of the books has nothing to do with Rashid.Marius has not even appeared on the show yet, and I sincerely hope they don't get to portray him, because they would perhaps irreparably destroy the wonderful character of Marius with their crap writing and ideas and bullshit. I get that the show's fandom is toxic and fuck up, I don't care, happy them, happy everyone. But enough of these attacks on fans of Anne's books, and enough of stealing canonical characters and inserting them into cheesy fanart. Personally as much as I hate Santino, I wouldn't want to see him in such a situation either, and he really deserves it among other things. But out of respect or decency or a normal mind, you don't get to propose such subjects in a fandom. Shame on you.
Do you think that Marius prefers Lestat in every way? He always seems to choose him over Armand. It feels like Marius has a bit of a lack of respect for Armand. Do you believe that Marius loves Lestat more?
I think it is fair to start with a premise, namely, that my personal opinion is that Lestat, somehow, especially in the last trilogy, has been elevated by Anne to the universally most beloved character of any vampire, regardless. Probably because Lestat has always been her favorite character, and also because it is through his voice, more so, that Anne has told the vampire chronicles. I think Lestat is somehow the platonic love of all the other vampires, because for Anne, they all had to love him immensely. And I would like to point out another thing as well, love, at least for me, in the chronicles is an immense term. It is not simple romantic love, or simple ship, or sexual attraction. What I see now often in fandom is this, and personally I find it mortifying and reductive. I find all this animosity aimed at showing how one character loves this character or this character more absurd. It is childish and not appropriate behavior in a lore like the vampire chronicles. The love in the chronicles, I repeat, is immense, and it embraces an infinite if not all types of love that human beings experience in their lives.
From romantic love, to brotherly love, to friendship love, or love that can be turned to a father figure or mentor, etc., and in addition, the love of these characters changes, expands, evolves, transforms, and never stays still. It is constantly changing, sometimes it detaches, although it remains strong and alive in the hearts of the characters, sometimes it remains and is experienced with more or less intensity, but it remains. Love in the chronicles always remains in the hearts of the characters even when it changes. Having said that, I think they are two extremely different relationships between Marius and Lestat and Marius and Armand. The first thing that comes to my mind is that I personally believe that Marius sees a lot of his younger self in Lestat. Marius and Lestat have always had a very similar view of the world, about humans and their relationship with them, about posing positively toward the world and life, they are kindred minds. I could even be presumptuous and say that Lestat is a little bit of a young Marius, we know that as a human Marius was prone to adventure, to searching, his was a wandering heart, full of questions and constantly searching for answers. Just like Lestat.
With the only big difference being that Marius has always been his own teacher, open and critical always willing to confront and question thinking. And I think here is one of the important points. Lestat seeks Marius because he wants answers, we could say that he seeks him fervently, almost maniacally, with determination and innocence at the same time. Lestat sees in Marius something to aspire to, something he can "lean on," something in which he can find peace in his wandering. As I said, it is a strong and love-filled relationship, Lestat loves Marius unconditionally, but their love is that of a son choosing a father, and of a father who is alone and defeated, and is moved by the ardor of this young vampire. And I would also like to point out, it is not exactly true that Marius is always ready to help or choose Lestat, in "The tale of the Body Thief" Marius decides not to help Lestat, he tries to make Lestat realize that he has gone too far, that he has pulled too far.
I would also like to say that in my opinion Lestat and Marius also share, unfortunately, the trauma that Akasha generated in both of them. They are traumas of different nature, but Akasha, she has somehow traumatized both of them. Akasha, she has always been evil, she is a villain, she is cruel and ruthless, and both Marius and Lestat have been confronted with Akasha's evilness. It's another commonality that somehow like an invisible thread, binds them, and brings them closer together.
On the other side Armand, it is a different story. Meanwhile, I think it is fundamental that Armand is the choosen fledgling of Marius. The one and only one that, Marius ever chose, the only one that he desired and for whom he fought himself, because he did not want to deprive him of his mortal life, because Akasha did not want Armand around, because Marius did not want to turn him so young, the thousand why all indiscriminately killed by an immense and indestructible love, on both sides precise, just for clarity.
I don't think any other relationship in the chronicles has the intense and burning passion the religious ardor of adoration and need for belonging that there is between Marius and Armand. I don't have any other way to talk about the two of them, they belong to each other, they both carried the ghost of the other inside for centuries, and they accepted that ghost as long as they didn't give up their love. Armand has a way of confronting Marius that no one else possesses. Armand knows very well Marius' limits, and Marius knows very well Armand's need to challenge him, in various ways, and with various results…which in the end are always pleasant I might add ;). Marius is everything to Armand, father, master, lover, creator, savior, guide, Marius is the reason why Armand accepts and wants immortality. And Armand is everything to Marius, son, disciple, lover, the one who was chosen, the precious love who saw him and longed for him and loved him with a human heart, and who saw the immortal creature and did not take a step back, on the contrary offered himself with even more love to him. I don't think Marius disrespects Armand, on the contrary, it is precisely because Marius appreciates and esteems Armand's mind and heart that he pushes him to study to understand to ask questions.Pushes him to confrontation, to growth through confrontation.
And finally, no, I don't think Marius loves Lestat more than Armand, I think he loves him differently, I think each of them loves the others differently, and I don't think there is a more or less. But instead, I think it is perhaps much more intense and in some ways even funny, how both Lestat and Armand love Marius in such a deep and dedicated way. And I find it beautiful that in the last trilogy Armand compares Lestat on this. It's a crossroads between the two of them this love that they have for Marius. It was one of the most beautiful things to see how Armand is jealous of Marius and that generates this strange love/hate relationship with Lestat.
In the end as I said at the beginning, love, whatever kind it is, is one of the wonderful constants in the chronicles. It is a little like watching a wave, the love in the chronicles comes and goes, but the sand remains wet from that wave, as the soul of these characters from love, and as that wet sand waits for the wave to return, so is love for Anne Rice vampires.
Thank you for the ask!
marius lestat and louis.. cats
De Romanus Coven Halloween Event:
DAY 7 - Event End
Theme -> New Orleans
2-Prompt -> Interview with the vampire
Do you sometimes think about this quote from PLatRoA:
I mean this is already a strong statement if you view it out of context but once you realize that it's Derek, a Replimoid, who immediately saw Marius and Lestat as father and son… as soon as you realize how these Replimoids procreate… this becomes an even stronger statement. When Derek says it, it really hits differently.
And then there's another layer which gets unpacked as you think of Derek and Dertu in particular but I can't put into proper words. Something about both Lestat and Dertu being simpler souls compared to their "fathers", less sensitive/thoughtful but more efficient in emergency situations.
(The second paragraph is just here to show some appreciation towards their different styles. "... as though he'd never slouched or slumped or relaxed in his entire long immortal life..." - somebody plz give this old man a beanbag chair and a head massage OK?)
De Romanus Coven Halloween Event:
DAY 7 - Event End
Theme -> Satan
1-Prompt-> Angel heart
or
Theme -> New Orleans
2-Prompt -> Interview with the vampire
De Romanus Coven Halloween Event:
DAY 5
Theme -> Lovecraft
1-Prompt-> In the mouth of madness/Chibi David,detective of the unknown
De Romanus Coven Halloween Event:
DAY 6
Theme -> Cannibalism
1-Prompt-> The silence of the lambs
or
Theme -> Weird
2-Prompt -> Crimes of the future
The last chapter!!! It's finally finished!!!
We hope you enjoy the end of the story - though there may be a little epilogue coming.
Enjoy chapter 5 of Copper and Rubies, and thank you for sticking around to read all 27,000+ words!
Written by @herbeloved82 and me!
How would Marius react if Armand called him dad? 🫣
De Romanus Coven Halloween Event:
DAY 5
Theme -> Lovecraft
1-Prompt-> In the mouth of madness
or
Theme -> Medical horror
2-Prompt -> The human centipede