I'll never unthink that Ogygia was basically eternal time-out corner for Calypso and Odysseus ended up there too because he had to think about his actions too
Not Sorry For Loving You be manipulation disguised as remorse but then Six Hundred Strike is (my) happiness disguised as cruelty. Sorry not sorry but even without the music I enjoyed the idea of swiss cheese Poseidon
LOVED the Vengeance saga, hated Calypso's song I'm sorry
**is being creepy and obsessive over a man who's clearly in distress and doesn't like her, as well as she ACTIVELY keeps him on her island for SEVEN YEARS against his will** "W-Well my love is just too much for you"
I get she didn't rape him in EPIC, but she was still terrible towards him and washing down to "her love was just too much for him" is a bit iffy to me :((
Honestly? I think "I'm Not Sorry For Loving You" is actually fantastic in showing HOW Manipulative and selfish she is.
She's doing a "Woe is me" with her loneliness, she is still somewhat putting the "blame" on Odysseus with her "My love being too much for you, sorry that you can't handle it", when it's straight up not taking no for an answer, she even constantly speaks over Odysseus. Yeah, she's "not sorry".
Even with her beautiful voice, (wonderful job Barbara Wangui!) and sweet melody, it's like she IS supposed to be this "perfect paradise, song, goddess, etc."
What really bothers me is Epic Odysseus' "I love you...Just not in the way you want me to".
So, for what Odysseus said "I love you... But not in the way that you want me to." I am actually wondering if too, and I think it might be him not wanting to anger Calypso, we're dealing with an unpredictable goddess here. Recipe for disaster. But even if he actually does love her, platonically, it CAN have an explanation. Trauma bond is the strong emotional connection that is formed between two individuals, one of which is treating badly or abusing the other interspersed with periods of positive behaviour. That could definitely be Odysseus and Calypso's dynamic. It's a different thing than shared trauma; shared trauma is when two people bond over a traumatic event that happened to them and were both the victims of.
Yep! I know it's possible that it's a trauma bond (Before my health got stupid I was planning to go to college for psychology.), and if that is the case, then it IS a very brave thing for Odysseus to even say to Calypso.
What kind of bothers me is that...yeah...We don't know if that's the case. As Odysseus doesn't talk about his feelings while he was on Ogygia again in the Saga.
Like if there were even a small moment about Odysseus realizing "holy fuck, I AM free. I CAN go." added in Dangerous. Seeing his relief and excitement other than "I was made for danger >:3 " like buddy, you were fucking suicidal the last time we saw you. How are you doing? How you feeling? You okay?
Yes, he has so much going on that it's probably pushed into the back of his mind. (it's kind of why maybe part of his walloping on Poseidon in which he didn't hold back while Poseidon was asking him to stop, was him possibly taking out his anger on just everyone, Calypso included. Because she didn't let him go when he begged.)
I simply wish we had more time to somewhat dwell and/or hear his side. oh fuck, here's some angst: During "Would you fall in love with me again", him being worried about coming off too strong and/or forceful like Calypso was to him to Penelope. Penelope rejecting him would break him like it nearly does in the Odyssey but he would do anything and everything to make sure she never felt like he ever did.
In my mind, the reason he appears so happy and refreshed in Dangerous is because of the hope he has just gotten. He was just released from an inescapable jail and then a God appeared to help him. I think everything was forgotten for a little because his goal finally seemed possible after all these years of it seeming totally impossible. And yes, I totally agree with the Poseidon part. He was just lashing out everything he's felt - yes, part of it by Poseidon, but still not all of it was by him. And that angst is so sad ngl. As a huge Calypso hater, I can't ever imagine how that would feel, thinking you're as bad as she is.
LOVED the Vengeance saga, hated Calypso's song I'm sorry
**is being creepy and obsessive over a man who's clearly in distress and doesn't like her, as well as she ACTIVELY keeps him on her island for SEVEN YEARS against his will** "W-Well my love is just too much for you"
I get she didn't rape him in EPIC, but she was still terrible towards him and washing down to "her love was just too much for him" is a bit iffy to me :((
Honestly? I think "I'm Not Sorry For Loving You" is actually fantastic in showing HOW Manipulative and selfish she is.
She's doing a "Woe is me" with her loneliness, she is still somewhat putting the "blame" on Odysseus with her "My love being too much for you, sorry that you can't handle it", when it's straight up not taking no for an answer, she even constantly speaks over Odysseus. Yeah, she's "not sorry".
Even with her beautiful voice, (wonderful job Barbara Wangui!) and sweet melody, it's like she IS supposed to be this "perfect paradise, song, goddess, etc."
What really bothers me is Epic Odysseus' "I love you...Just not in the way you want me to".
So, for what Odysseus said "I love you... But not in the way that you want me to." I am actually wondering if too, and I think it might be him not wanting to anger Calypso, we're dealing with an unpredictable goddess here. Recipe for disaster. But even if he actually does love her, platonically, it CAN have an explanation. Trauma bond is the strong emotional connection that is formed between two individuals, one of which is treating badly or abusing the other interspersed with periods of positive behaviour. That could definitely be Odysseus and Calypso's dynamic. It's a different thing than shared trauma; shared trauma is when two people bond over a traumatic event that happened to them and were both the victims of.
'I'm not sorry for loving you" should have been called "emotional manipulation - the song" because oh my god
It's basically an "i'm sorry if you feel that way but actually i'm not sorry at all because i'm the victim"
Calypso they could never make me like you!!!!!
THANK YOU
That was literally my first thought - "Calypso is being a manipulative bitch here and I hate her for it"