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woke up cackling from an extremely dumb dream where Spidey got poisoned or some shit and had a few hours to live so Deadpool was helping him track down the guy who did it to save his life. but some clue took them next door to like a cheap car dealership where the owner had painted this fucking weird like….golf cart/trolley hybrid in spiderman colors as a publicity stunt and Wade was already in the driver’s seat trying to hotwire it like Peter we HAVE to steal this. there’s no other option here. and Peter is like Wade. that is a Crime we stop crime I’m not stealing a car. meanwhile the owner of the dealership has fully run out with a bat and is waving it threateningly at Peter. And Wade’s like ‘ITS A PETTY CRIME-’ (”GRAND THEFT AUTO IS PETTY??”) -AND ALSO YOU WILL LITERALLY BE DEAD TOMORROW. LIVE A LITTLE. STEAL.’ there’s a crowd that’s finding this entire situation hilarious and Deadpool gets them to start chanting ‘steal’ with him and then the owner hits Peter with the bat and Peter’s like. is that. a wiffle ball bat you painted to look like metal. and the owner is sobbing he’s like PEOPLE USUALLY BACK OFF WHEN THEY SEE IT I’VE NEVER HIT ANYONE BEFORE I’M SORRY JUST TAKE THE CAR. and that’s how Spider-Man was peer pressured into robbing a small business<3 (bugle had a field day)

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Scott Lang has successfully trended #notmyCap on Twitter for the past month and Hope has removed his phone privileges because of it. It’s ok though, seeing it not trending, Peter Parker has taken up the challenge to keep it trending until Sam is cap like he, and the world, deserves.

Sam Wilson needs to rule this world. That's the only way any work is going to get done, sensibly and WITHOUT bloodshed.

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maxximoffed

Marvel Comics #1000: We’re Calling Him Ben

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sulemania

I feel this is an important addition. He saves so many people on a regular basis that this just keeps happening. And he feels so much for his uncle that the answer is always the same.

Honour thy father 😭😭😭👏👏👏

I swear to God just when I think Peter can't get sweeter, he does something like this. 😙😙😙😙

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Steve [on call]: Bucky where are you?
Bucky: I waved to a man because I thought he was waving at me. Apparently he waved another woman. So to get out of the awkward situation I kept my hand up and a taxi pulled over and drove me to the airport. I am now in Portland where I'll be spending the rest of my life. Goodbye Steven.

This post will probably happen to me at some point in my life 😥😥😥😥

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traincat

Do you have any opinions on, or know of of any good articles or posts about the socio-economic changes made to the world of Spider-man in the MCU? Because I'm very bothered by it but can't articulate it. Especially the effective replacement of Uncle Ben with Tony Stark.

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This is definitely a topic that I have a lot of thoughts on, though unfortunately I’m not aware of that many outside articles on the topic, which is a shame because I think the fact that it has to be addressed at all is very, very telling. @karenpages has a very good meta post about Spider-Man: Homecoming in general that heavily touches on the movie’s economics here that I highly recommend.

I think there’s one thing we have to be very clear on, though: the MCU didn’t want Spider-Man to be poor, because it wanted to make a fun movie, and being poor isn’t fun. I’m not being facetious, and I’m not trying to be edgy by hating on the popular and current Spider-Man film adaptation; if you look at the film, this is literally what’s going on. You cannot, in good faith, argue that MCU Spider-Man honestly experiences financial difficulties in the finished film. I know there’s a deleted scene involving unpaid bills, and I appreciate that, but the point is that scene was deleted, and it is not in the final product. MCU Peter Parker, unlike basically every other version of the character, doesn’t need to have a job. He doesn’t need to work for the Bugle to support himself and his aunt. This too is related to the erasure of Peter Parker’s Jewish coding and history – he’s just an ordinary, relatable kid in the MCU, and for the MCU that means he’s not Jewish and he’s definitely not poor, because that wouldn’t be very relatable, would it, regardless of the fact that far more people are in bad financial situations than the opposite. In 616 comics canon, during Peter’s teen years, Aunt May is too frail or in too ill health to work. Peter explicitly has to get a job in order to support his family. He even laments the fact that Medicare doesn’t cover enough of the costs for her healthcare, which, if we’re going to talk about relatable content, if you’re not independently wealthy and you have had an ill relative, I’m sure you can understand the stress involved there. In 616, there’s absolutely no denying that Peter is aware of the stress of being poor, and that he feels deeply not just for himself and for his family but for complete strangers who are also facing financial hard times. He’s very empathetic, the way only someone who has experienced these kinds of hardships can be:

Amazing Spider-Man #50 – it is depressing how long ago this comic was published and how, when you look at it, very little has changed.

Spider-Man: Homecoming’s ad for Marvel’s partner, Synchrony Bank – spot the difference. Not only is using Spider-Man to advertise savings accounts totally out of touch with the material when one of the things Spider-Man as a hero is most famous for is living paycheck to paycheck like an ordinary schmuck, but it’s totally glossing over the fact that in comics canon Peter knows that banks are not the ordinary person’s friend. In Marvel Fanfare #42, for example, he blackmails a bank manager with said manager’s sexual affair in order to make sure he apologizes and gives a single mother her job as a teller back after she’s fired because she won’t respond to said manager’s sexual advances. This is the Spider-Man we deserve and that we need. When talking about superheroes and the economic climate, it’s important to address the fact that superheroes shouldn’t only care about beating up the big bad guy of the picture. If they don’t honestly care about the disenfranchised, they aren’t super – and that’s always what has made Spider-Man special, because he comes from a background where he uniquely suited to understand the plight of those in need. He defends people in apartment buildings where the landlords are trying to push them out so they can raise the rents and gentrify the neighborhood. He saves victims from muggers. These are ordinary people, without great financial means. He’s angry – justifiably – at the abuse of the elderly, at neglected children, at people who prey on the victims of society. He doesn’t whine because he wanted to spend time with his crush on a fancy European school vacation. 

The MCU’s Spider-Man, on the other hand, eschews the idea that Peter Parker is poor, and it does this in a very subtle but very simple and powerful way that I’m going to outline, because this is very easy to miss. That’s the point of it. They wanted to do away with the notion that Peter Parker is poor – because that’s so depressing, nobody wants to think about poverty in their fun summer movie – while being careful not to do it so blatantly that their erasure was noticed by their greater audience. It’s not as simple as moving Peter to a mansion, or having him throw around hundred dollar bills. No, the way you know MCU Peter isn’t poor is very simple, and it goes by very fast. I’ve said this before, but the way the MCU employs the concept of fun within their Spider-Man franchise is dangerous in terms of what it allows them to erase all with barely any fan reaction at all, because of course we all want to have fun, don’t we? If anything, those among us in more troubled financial situations are more desperate to have fun than most, because we see so little of it compared to the stress. Those in good financial situations are less likely to notice entirely because the notion simply never occurs to them; they exist in a place of financial comfort and a good portion of them don’t question that reality. They may be aware of the alternative, but it’s not pertinent to them, because they don’t experience it personally. Everything is different when it’s personal.

Now I’ve always been very clear about my belief that the MCU didn’t do wrong by Spider-Man right off the bat; in his first appearance within the MCU’s continuity in Captain America: Civil War, he appears to live in quite a nice and modernly furnished apartment (as opposed to his more traditional childhood home in a freestanding house in Forest Hills, Queens, usually somewhat old fashionedly furnished to reflect the Parker family’s current lack of finances and the age of both Ben and May, a setting that was dismissed by Homecoming’s screenwriters are “old fashioned”), but the MCU’s sets in general tend to be lacking in the department of personal character. Basically, every room looks like an IKEA show room. I mean, they put a cross in the room of Wanda Maximoff, the daughter of Magneto, one of the most famous Jewish characters of all time. To say the MCU’s set design is both lacking and careless is to say that grass is green. It’s hard to fault the Parker apartment for this specifically when everything looks like a magazine layout or a Macy’s showroom. In CACW, Peter dumpster dives for tech and has created, albeit shabbily compared to the more advanced wardrobes of the other heroes, his own costume. Everything is as we would expect of Peter Parker in the moment, being a bright and creative young man who is good at problem solving and creating his own tech with limited resources. Spider-Man: Homecoming near immediately changes that with about one line.

Early on in Spider-Man: Homecoming, Peter loses his backpack by carelessly tossing it on the ground, a scene that completely broke the suspension of belief for me. I find it hard to believe any inner city kid – especially one we’re expected to believe is a genius – would toss their belongings on the ground in public, walk away, and still expect them to be there when they get back. It’s especially grating when, in comics, Peter regularly does leave his belongings outside – webbed up out of sight and out of reach. Surely no child who is aware of their family’s financial struggles would treat their personal belongings with such a lack of care, additionally. Sure enough, when MCU Peter returns to the scene of the backpack drop, his stuff is gone. Shocker. When he confesses this to Aunt May, she doesn’t express concern over how they’ll replace the bag or the contents wherein – something that, depending on how many textbooks or how much school equipment was within, could be very expensive – instead simply saying they can replace it, no problem, it’s just like all the other backpacks he’s lost, revealing that this isn’t the first time and that this is not an issue for them because they can afford to continually replace things due to his carelessness. The MCU Parkers aren’t poor. I cannot stress this enough. They aren’t poor because they movie has not portrayed them as such. They do not have financial troubles. They may not be billionaires, but the movie treats them as safely comfortable. Peter is not expected to be financially responsible or even to have the kind of common sense that prevents you from leaving your backpack on the street lest it be stolen. He feels no responsibility to provide financially, a total opposite to 616 Peter, who supported both himself and May with his job at the Daily Bugle. 

”She’s pawning her jewelry! She must be desperate for money! But she doesn’t want me to know! She doesn’t want me to worry!” – Amazing Spider-Man #1. As in, literally the second appearance of the character after Amazing Fantasy #15. This is not incidental stuff, this is not in the background; financial worries were baked into the character at his very inception and at his core. It’s like if you created a version of Batman who kept all his investigative tools in a storage rental he paid by the month and the plot frequently centered on him worrying about how he was going to make the rent.

(Amazing Spider-Man #24)

“The way you supported [May] and yourself throughout high school by selling pictures to the Bugle. We’re so proud.” “Someone had to.” - Amazing Spider-Man #377

Previous movie adaptations of Spider-Man have never before left this aspect of the Parkers out. In the Raimi movies obviously Aunt May and Uncle Ben are quite a bit older than Peter as they are in the comics, and you can tell from the films that money is an issue. Peter works menial jobs such as pizza delivery in able to make money. In The Amazing Spider-Man series, the financial worries are directly addressed in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, which makes it clear that Peter is working for the Bugle and that he is contributing to the household finances:

May’s plot in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is very rooted in the financial aspect of their identities – here she’s hiding from Peter that she’s started taking nursing classes, explicitly stated later that it’s so she can pay for him to go to college (”I have to take nursing classes with 22 year old kids so I can pay for you to go college”) because she doesn’t want him to worry. Spider-Man: Homecoming’s screenwriters were very disrespectful to this version of May – and I would say the character of May in general – saying that their version is a professional, she’s not “waiting at home for Peter to bring the eggs.” Except we don’t know what MCU May does for a living. It’s not important, because the MCU doesn’t view May herself as important. She clearly does something, but is it interior design? Is it investment management? Is it a whole lot of tax fraud? It’s never made clear. The Webb movies, on the other hand, tell us exactly what May does: she works as a waitress. She is taking classes to be a nurse. This information about May is viewed as being worthy of being in the movie itself, because it takes her seriously as a character and as an influence in Peter’s life. It doesn’t gloss over the financial troubles she faces.

Let me be very clear in my beliefs that you cannot tell a valid Spider-Man story if you do not at the very least address the fact that the Parkers are not economically well off and go into Peter’s social standing because of that fact. By having him jet set with his whole class – really? a whole class of kids from Queens? on a whole ass European vacation to multiple countries? I 100% have a harder time believing this than I do a radioactive spider-bite – or by removing the need for him to make his own costume because everything is provided by billionaires or above government agencies. The fact that J Jonah Jameson will be appearing in Far From Home when this Peter has no relationship with him and no need (and for Peter in comics and most adaptations it very much is a need) for a job at the Bugle is highly suspect – JJJ doesn’t mean anything without his relationship with Peter and with Spider-Man. Without them, he’s just a “bring me pictures of Spider-Man” meme. There’s no story. There’s no meaning. There’s no connection. It’s an empty appearance without that push and pull between the characters – and without realizing that Jameson is a rich man, albeit a self-made one, and Peter is quite commonly his broke employee.

Amazing Spider-Man #99, where Peter is lobbying for a salary because he plans to ask Gwen to marry him and he wants to be able to support her financially. In 616 canon, Peter wants to provide and Peter wants to protect, and one way he’s able to protect is by providing. He’s very aware of the value of money. He’s not naive about that in the least because he knows exactly what it’s like to not have money. To erase that from the character is to lessen him, but the MCU doesn’t care about the character. It doesn’t care about the values put forward by Spider-Man as a story. It certainly doesn’t care about responsibility.

All the MCU cares about in relation to Spider-Man is fun. (Even it’s emotional hits are hollow – audiences are supposed to accept that Peter is going to cry over Tony Stark’s death, but the only mention made of Uncle Ben has been a vague line from CACW and a piece of luggage that will apparently be appearing in Far From Home bearing the initials “BFP.” (And stop trying to tell me that the MCU didn’t replace Uncle Ben with Tony Stark. It does a disservice to all the characters involved when Tony Stark was never meant to provide this kind of influence on Spider-Man because he’s not a Spider-Man cast member, and when Uncle Ben can’t even be mentioned by name within four and counting films worth of appearances.) We get it, you’re borrowing the Richard Parker briefcase from the Webb movies.) And how are you supposed to have fun paying $15 for a single movie ticket if your main character is concerned about how he’s paying for his aunt’s medication? There’s responsibility and there’s relatable content – real relatable content, not meme-worthy fluff moments – in Spider-Mans’ socioeconomic status and takes in the comics, but they’re there so you think. That’s the last thing the MCU wants you to do with its Audi-riding, bank-partnered, Uncle Ben-forgetting, “the world needs the next Iron Man” Spider-Man. Shut up, stop thinking, and put up your cash so Disney can break some more box office records.

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kyraneko

1) The dismissal of whole genres of potential characters as “unrelatable” is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and Disney’s repeated preference for erasure of such traits rather than keeping them part of an (already-related-to!) character is functionally an act of bigotry.

2) I’m noticing a trend in remakes/continuations in general of most of the meaning of the story being stripped out in favor of a very flashy empty shell that explodes in all the right places but has nothing under the surface, and in all honesty it’s reminding me of the Hays Code era where things like moral complexity, “distasteful” subjects, and anything critical of established power structures were banned from being depicted. Nowadays the concept being defended is “enjoyment” rather than “decency,” but the result is the same.

The erasure of Uncle Ben irked me so much. He has always been such a big part of who spider-man is!

It's like removing Batman's parents!

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My thoughts on endgame and their disservice to Peggy, Steve and the shattered hopes of the Stucky fandom.

I found the ending to be a disservice to both Steve and Peggy. Peggy moved on. Simple. She grieved and then found someone with whom she had an entire family. And Steve is well aware of that. He knows that she lived a full-filling life and it just doesn't make sense for him to go back and erase all that. 

That is NOT Steve Rogers, at least in my books. He would never destroy someone's happy ending for his own reasons. Plus from what we see in Infinity War, Steve himself was doing a pretty good job of moving-on with his own life. He was travelling with Nat, going to visit Bucky at Wakanda and being a Dad to Wanda. He was fighting his fight on his own terms and had stopped caring about the governments. Steve Rogers was very much moving-on and succeeding at life. 

So, you see there are somethings that you can move-on from and some (like half the universe being wiped out) from which you can't. I wanted him to retire and live a peaceful life. But the way they gave it to him just felt so wrong. It seemed OOC for him to me. From what I understood in THAT scene, him and Bucky definitely talked about his decision. But it all just felt so wrong to me.

Especially, the distance created between the 2 BFFs! When the whole Steve-squad came, I was surprised to find Bucky missing. Like WHY? First they build up this incredible relationship that is the heart of the Captain America trilogy and then just destroy it by ignoring it in EVERY. MEANINGFUL. MOMENT! 

We are probably never going to see Steve on screen again and never going to see the incredible friendship between him and Bucky play out. 

This was it. 

Endgame was the Stucky fandom's last hope and they shattered it! 

Now I'll go and cry in my pillow. 

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