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anyway knd lore where we discuss the timeline, the nature of decomission if its ethical and right even IN universe context (its very mixed due to several reasons but what it represents in Theme its fine) anyway juggling three different thoughts at once

Don't launch me on that, I'll be up all night.

It's true that Alessandra's name was the biggest mind blowing thing this year/decade, cuz no one understood why the secret was kept this whole time.

I'm still doing a few fanart for myself, I still haven't advanced my fanfic, and I didn't hear about a big fandom project so..... I'll just talk about a few things for the funzies.

First the timeline. The 7th age of the Kids Next Door started (implied) in the late 50s/early 60s. They were probably the first operatives to build spaceships and the Moonbase. We know there was no girls in the previous age and we had the confirmation that Nubmuh 999, aka Numbuh 1's mom, as the first girl operative of the 7th age. Maybe she was an hidden figure of May 68, who knows. I like to headcanon that.

Further in time, we get the Junior High Rebellion of 1999, a few years prior the show's first events. We don't know much about it, only that during that event the Recommissioning Module got broken.

Some times after that, three years prior to the show, Abby graduated from the Academy and joined her sister in Sector V. Then she became the leader, meaing that Cree must have changed her role somewhere else in the organization, since I can't see her staying in Sector V and following her younger sister's orders. Mind you, I believe that's because she would have prefered Abby to be her own person/operative/leader without interfering. Then for some unknown reason, Cree betrayed the KND and was never caught by the Decommissioning Squad. Abby also didn't help Nigel who was kidnapped by the Delightful Children, and it resulted in him becoming bald and her losing her confidence as a sector leader. We don't know the reason she didn't want to help him, nor what the DC actually did to him, but personally I like to think she thought he wasn't worth her time and they try to delightfulize him. It's also unlcear when Cree's betrayal occured, was it before Nigel got in the KND or slightly after ? I put her betrayal slightly after Nigel joined Sector V. He witnessed it and thus it's what it solidified his disgust and disdain towards teenagers. Sector V then got the cake missions assigned by default, I bet it's because Nigel made it personal (i don't blame him). They went to around 15 cake missions together.

Important to note that Nigel and Hoagie are best friends since kindergarten, and Fanny went with them too (but they ain't friends, they just know each other since then).

Now, onto the decommissioning ethics.

Yes, it exists to preserve KND secrets and kids who join are aware of that fact, some accept it but a lot more are like "heeeey waitaminute, this is fucked up!!" (thus them turn traitors) because we don't know if decommissioning is rewritting some of the memories or not. Either way, the person loses a lot of his/her personality and in itself, it is messed up. If the kids deeply believe in their ideal, for the greater of good, it seems that they're fine with losing a part of themselves. But I'm just saying, they signed up for this, backing down from it at the last minute seems a little hypocritical. They knew they would get their memory erased, if they really didn't want that, they shouldn't have been operatives in the first place.

It brings a new question, is every KND operatives worthy of being one? Some seem to have joined because it looks cool or just wanted to be with their older brother/sister, without realizing the actual meaning of being a Kids Next Door, helping every kids, no matter who they are. Exemple, Abby: she didn't care much about one kid that he payed a heavy price for her neglect. Then she understood, and swore to never let that happen if she can do something about it. It's sad that she had to learn it the hard way.

Going back to decommissioning, we don't know what happens to the family of the operative: like, even if they didn't join the KND, their brother/sister saw them going on missions and stuff, and suddenly the operatives act like nothing happened. Yes, this is about the Uno brothers. It's always about the Uno brothers. Monty went through decommisssioning but what does that mean for him and his relationship with Ben? I know I like to think they got separated as kids, but at some point they had to met again right? Or if they stayed together, Ben had no one to talk to anymore since Monty literally forgot about their father's reign of terror. Monty became oblivious, and as seen in the show, pretty much everything goes over his head. I cannot imagine Ben's struggle. No wonder the brothers seem to be estranged. Monty never told Nigel he had a brother, probably because they had a huge dispute between them. OR IF YOU WANT MORE ANGST (come on, you come here for that, don't lie to me), Monty forgot all about Ben. Suddenly if that's the case, Father's hatred for the KND is justified (but not his actions, mind you). But it wouldn't make sense since Monty can still recognize his father, sooooooooooooo.............

trying to listen to fnaf lore and going ‘i see’ and then promptly closing out because Thats just. A lot.

Ahem, allow me to explain–

no kaz let ME explain. You see in the seventh age of the KND, it first started in the industrial revolution. of seemingly the 1900’s but evidence suggests its probably in the 50s or 60s due to the fact the show seems to take place in the 2000s. Now why I point this out is cause Grandfather himself seems to use his agifying powers to make things LOOK older from when HE was young vs how it actually was. We know Numbuh 19th century is… as his number implies. Is from the 1800s. With this in mind, we know the Family lineage of Father goes back about 200 years. Could it go back further? Evidence suggests so. Given the fact this is the SEVENTH age of the KND implying a much further history that we know of. Numbuh 19th century you would THINK is the SIXTH age. BUT. We know that KND came back to UNTHAW these operatives from the icecream they were frozen in. Now you can think the Sixth age was then but Grandfathers very existence implies 19th century or at least during that Ala Mode was possible the Fifth age. Bringing in a new generation of KND for the Sixth age thus Grandfather being the cause of THAT ending. Now how Decommissioning worked is another thing entirely-

[cracks fingers] Let's do this

The 7th age started indeed in around the late 50s/early 60s, if we consider Monty to be somewhere close to 40 years old. Grandfather does make everything look old with his powers, probably from his own youth time. The dude is maybe over 100 years old since one of the Triplets From Upon The Hill is his mother. Father says in CAKED FIVE that the Triplets' mother is his great-great-grandmother, so according to this logic, the family tree is clear.

Howewer, CAKED FIVE does not precise which age Numbuh 19th Century is from, the fandom just assumed it was the 6th. There is no confirmation nor infirmation weither or not it's the 5th or the 6th.

Sure, the 5'000 operatives who raided the Alamode got caught in the ice cream explosion, but there must have been some remaining operatives who didn't go on the battlefield, cuz who else took those photos? (i know it must be just for exposition, but let's ignore the out-universe reason) and they're also the one who defrost the unfortunate operatives. And it took them ten years to do so. You know what happened during that decade? The Triplets grew up. There was no indication that they were also caught, they probably fled their house cuz they knew it was trapped. Ten years after that event, they turned around 20, full grown adults facing a much more smaller group of active KND operatives (since the 5'000 got decomissioned), meaning it was easier for the Triplets to vainquished the 6th age of the Kids Next Door.

If the Triplets did indeed destroyed the KND at this point in time, it means that Grandfather was born in a world without KND. With no one to oppose this spoiled golden child. It doesn't feel like the KND existed while Grandfather was in power cuz if they did, they would have try to stop him before. That's why we think 19th Century was from the 6th age, with the few information we have, we can only deduce this fact.

Since we're also talking about disturbing lore, let me add a few things that you wish you didn't want to know:

Friendly reminder that Grandfather put kids in slavery, they were inchained to prisoner balls, and forced to make tapioca for the old geezer. It's really not just child labor, it's literally child slavery. He also put his own sons into slavery, even if they didn't have a ball attached to their feet. If you look closely to Ben's body language in the opening of op zero, you can see clearly that he was physically abused by his father. Monty was the most advantaged kid, he didn't received hits and punches like his brother. How do I know that? His body language. Monty does not care about his father's warnings, because he knows he won't get a big punishment, unlike Ben who's rightfully terrified. Any person who received punches will tell you that Ben got beat up frequently and Monty didn't. We don't know exaclty what kind of punishments Grandfather used, but knowing the guy, he probably used corporal punisments, using belts and stick to beat up Ben.