@faded-mind / faded-mind.tumblr.com
listen, all i’m saying, is that if you open a bag clearly labeled “dead dove do not eat,” and then you pick up the dead dove and take a bite out of it, and all this time you’re in a building with a sign saying “dead doves in bags convention” and you had to sign in at the door, you don’t get to complain about people who put dead doves in bags
Jeepers fucking crikey.
And all they did was genderbend the dads. That’s it.
This is why I hate what tumblr turns fandoms into.
I agree that the person shouldn’t have had death threats sent to them, but their art was transphobic as well as fatphobic, and overall just… Bad. Don’t defend the artist for bad art because people crossed the line. They literally drew a 30-40 year old fat man as a 20 year old looking girl with big ol’ boobs and no fat. That’s gross. Not to mention unless you are very delicate about it, it is VERY VERY BAD and VERY OFFENSIVE to genderbend trans characters. And finally, they took healthy looking adults, and made them look unhealthily thin as fuck because its ~pretty~, despite the fact that most of them are very muscular, or not thin as all hell. The only really thin looking ones in game are Damien and Mat, and overall at their age they SHOULDN’T look like… Whatever the hell the artist drew.
It’s fucking fan art. I think you may be too invested in fiction if you’re this fucking mad over a piece of fan art.
I’m curious if people combed through your entire blog for anything they could latch on to and then whip up a witch hunt, directed at you, you’d be so fucking quick to condemn this person.
Fuck off. No, seriously, fuck right off.
You’re the fucking cancer that kills fandoms. You’re the kind of asshole who makes Steven Universe the laughing stock of the entire internet. You’re the kind of dipshit that turns people off of engaging with your fandom. You’re the jackasses who tried to threaten the Voltron creators unless their ship was made canon.
You’re the awful kind of human being that ruins something people create because you have nothing of value in your own life to cherish. NOT the artist. The artist, if anything, would’ve fucking promoted the game more than you.
Compare your fucking actions. The artist made a piece of fan art that maybe got more people into the game, got more people into the fandom. YOU have actively discouraged people from enjoying the community and made it toxic, to the point where the developers have had to step in and condemn it.
How the fuck do you think the game devs feel about your and others’ shitty behavior toward this artist, who has done NOTHING wrong.
So I’ll say this again.
Fuck RIGHT off. Go away. And stay away. For everyone else’s enjoyment.
im dying at this. you think this is a life changing fucking thing for me. I dislike Steven Universe and Voltron, so uh… have fun with your assumptions. I literally have just said that what they drew is offensive. Yes, me being critical of fan art makes me the ~cancer of the internet oooooo~ Aaaaa yes, bring in the assumptions despite the fact I’ve literally been telling all my friends to buy the game and have been excitedly telling everyone about how much I love it. I’m toxic now for saying that a piece of art is fatphobic and transphobic, well damn i guess i should get sent to the guillotine for having my own opinions on this topic and talking about my own opinions on fanart. I straight up have done nothing to this artist, my critiquing of the obvious fatphobia and lowkey transphobic vibes that they probably won’t even see is harmful… How?
Yes.
You are the exact kind of person who made Steven Universe’s and Voltron’s fandoms shit. I never said you WERE part of the fandom, I said you were the kind of person who made those fandoms awful and toxic.
You’re the kind of person who are like in Steven Universe, who will fucking call anyone who draws any character a shade too light racist. And guess what? That’s led to the entire fandom being comprised of nothing but toxic callouts as people attempt to prove to one another that they’re the most fucking concerned about “isms”.
THAT is how it is harmful. Because you’re so fucking obsessed with “calling out” this piece of fanart that you felt the need to make this post.
You saying “They shouldn’t be getting death threats, but…”
No buts. Nothing needs to be said. Anything fucking after that is you masturbating to your own fucking virtue and moral superiority.
You’re not the fucking champion of trans people or fat people. If anything, you’ve made those groups look fucking deranged by participating in this witch hunt, justified by crusading for those groups.
You’re doing far more goddamn harm than good.
The absolute irony is that if all 5000 of my followers suddenly flooded your inbox right now with genuine criticism of your point, and never left you alone, you’d be screaming harassment accusations at me.
People calling the art transphobic are just admitting that they don’t see Damien as a real man after his reveal so really, who’s transphobic here
I CAN’T FUCKING BELIEVE IT TOOK PEOPLE ONE WEEK TO GET THE TEAM TO TELL THEM TO SHUT THEIR FUCKING MOUTH
Okay, so I’ve seen enough purity wank at this point to notice a common slip of the fingers among multiple wankists that admits the main complaint: some people feel that tagging a work that has dark themes or triggery content in the ship or character tag that they follow on AO3 is akin to posting in a tumblr tag as an anti.
I’ll go ahead and clearly state: that is not true.
The tags on AO3 literally mean “X content is in here.” X may be a ship, a character, a trope, a setting, a fandom, a gender category, you name it. But that is literally all it means: “X is here.”
That doesn’t mean you’re going to like the X that’s in a given work. You might hate it. It might include your squicks or even your triggers. That’s okay - you don’t have to open it. The point of having multiple tags plus summaries on works is to help you make an informed decision. I break out into chills just thinking about opening a high school au. In some fandoms, that means there’s barely anything left. That’s okay. It’s not up to creators to make stuff that I like. It’s up to them to tag clearly and accurately so I can avoid stuff I won’t like.
(For the record, that includes both underage and character death, but I will absolutely stand up for anyone who wants to make those things in ships and for characters I love, because I don’t have to open them. Someone else out there does want those works, and that’s great. More power to ‘em. I’ll be over here buried in fluff and curtainfic, which I’m sure someone else out there hates.)
I have much more sympathy for those who complain that posters are tagging with ships or characters or concepts that don’t appear in the work or are only mentioned once, because that’s a case of tagging something that isn’t there on the screen, just in the creator’s head. But if something is there on the screen? Doesn’t matter what else is there with it. The work belongs in the tag.
Tags on AO3 don’t belong to a specific group of people. I have seen people be run out of tags by harassers dogpiling them, and I’m here to say that is not on. No matter how much you like a thing, the tag for it is not yours to decide who gets to use it and who doesn’t. Don’t like, don’t read. You have a scrollbar and filtering. Use them like a responsible adult.
(If you’re not an adult, don’t lie about your age to get through the age filter and then complain about what you find on the other side.)
The “anti” problem arose because Tumblr has no functional community structure, meaning people started using the tags themselves to replace the communities from back on LJ. In that context, tagging a negative post with the tags that apply was making the posts show up in the only viable community structure, which was a violation of LJ etiquette (where communities were self-selecting and moderated). This was exacerbated by the lack of functional cut tags, so everything was all completely visible, and you had to scroll past every post in its entirety. The culture of “don’t post anti in the tag” was a social concept developed to deal with Tumblr’s non-functionality for fandom purposes.
That’s unfortunate, but it’s Tumblr’s problem, not AO3′s. AO3 is not a blogging or social media platform. It’s an archive. It relies on a fairly unique tagging system that only works properly if posters tag fully. Don’t import Tumblr social norms about what belongs or doesn’t belong in a tag onto AO3; they don’t fit. All they do is break the tagging and filtering system by bullying people out of tagging fully.
Yes, Hydra Trash Party works belong in the Bucky/Sam tag if they are about Bucky/Sam (filter for removing all 8 htp works from Bucky/Sam). Yes, works about Derek Hale being Superman belong in the Supergirl tag (filter for removing all 2 Teen Wolf crossovers from Supergirl). Instead of dogpiling people, learn how to use the filters to your advantage. Here’s how to remove Hux/Kylo and Kylo/Rey and similar ships from the Star Wars TFA results, or remove the above plus Hux entirely. Seriously, I could go on all day. Ask me for any filtering need you have, and I will show you how to do it.
We need to stop harassing people for making what they love instead of what we love. That makes fandom a more awful place for everyone.
It’s not up to creators to make stuff that I like. It’s up to them to tag clearly and accurately so I can avoid stuff I won’t like.
honestly if you dont think like, the tumblr feminist scene, with all the occasionalyl cheesy kawaii-aesthetic misandry art, hasn’t had an impact on anyone at all like
you dont remember what the average teen girl in a fandom was like before this. you don’t remember how we used to make hate-sites about female characters who “got in the way”, games where you could beat them up, how much we hate our gender and bragged about not being like other girls, used to completely reject everything girly. a lot of us just wanted to be one of the guys. there was a lot of internalised misogyny there
now you get these 15 year old girls loving other girls and loving themselves fiercely, even at the total cost of male approval and just. god. if like 14-year-old me could see this shit now.
and like if you dont think teen girls learning to love themselves and their body and each other isnt important than i do not know what to say to you
“why are you in fandom when you’re 20+”
because we built this kingdom, motherfuckers, with the trekkie zine housewives before us.
