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Anonymous asked:

Hiya! I’ve been seeing this hc circulating around for a while and I wanted to hear your opinion about it. I don’t know if you’ve seen it before, but someone posted a long analysis about how when Emily mentioned killing someone in the Doyle arc, she wasn’t referring to Declan but to some person she might’ve actually killed, a civilian maybe (possibly while undercover). It’s difficult for me to imagine a situation other than Emily trying her absolute hardest to keep someone away and failing, which is what would cause an untimely death completely unrelated to her involvement. Idk just the idea of her killing is so against her character and so against everything she stands for in the show, I think it’s more she thought she had something to do with someone’s death - in an impossie situation - rather than actually having a hand in it.

Hi! So I'm not 100% sure if we're thinking about the same post, but if so I think I might've replied to it at some point. And disclaimer before I say anything: many interpretations are valid, and one of my favourite things about this arc is that it introduces so much complexity.

Personally, I think he's talking about Declan. Not because of any particular character thing about Emily - just because it makes narrative sense. The entire arc is this slow unveiling of what he is actually getting revenge for, and it's Declan. So from memory here's kind of how the 'reveal' of Declan goes. I am definitely going to miss things.

  1. "You took the only thing that matters to me." - we have no idea what he's talking about here, just that whatever it is, he wants Emily to pay with her life.
  2. "Happy birthday, my love." - again, we don't know who he's talking to, but he's in a Catholic church lighting a candle at a side altar so they're probably dead.
  3. The whole reveal about the gimmel ring and the flashback to him giving it to her - we learn they were in a committed relationship and that he wanted to marry her. (This is another place the fandom differs but it's at least complicated for her, and he does seem to genuinely love her in his own fucked up way.)
  4. Some members of the team are used narratively to try to plant the idea with the audience that maybe this ruthlessness actually does say something Bad about Emily. Whether you think this is clumsily done or a logical place for Morgan's mind to go is up for interpretation, but the things he says are there in the script to plant the question 'is she bad, actually?'
  5. "This won't be the first time you've killed an innocent, but it will be the first time you have to watch". We're like 'omg what is he talking about', because we still don't know about Declan. [[From his POV, as far as he knows, she was the only person who knew about his son, and his son was killed by someone else to break him. She caused his son's death, but didn't have to watch. It just feels overwhelmingly more likely that this is what he's referring to here than anything else, because getting her to confess to this is the entire point of capturing her and torturing her.]]
  6. That weird hammy scene between Rossi and Ashley where Ashley is like "WHY FAMILIES???" that leads to the team realising Doyle killing a child he could've chosen to spare could be the key to figuring out why he's taken Emily. Clyde wonders, if Doyle had a kid, why Emily would've kept that from him, and we don't know the answer.
  7. Doyle tells Emily if she knew where to find him she knows "what this is about", and it's time for her last confession. She says "take me to where he died" - this is the first time we hear her acknowledge Declan at all and it's like 15ish mins from the end of Lauren.
  8. The flashback of her with Declan. She clearly loves this kid and cares about protecting him. Uh oh did she actually get this child killed????
  9. Doyle shows her the photo of Louise and Declan. They very much appear to be dead, she is the only person who knew Declan was his child, she admits to putting him in the profile and Doyle says the photos were what broke him and got him to talk. She's crying about it. It very much seems like this child is dead and she is responsible. (I honestly think as long time fans and people obsessed with this arc, we forget how late this reveal comes and how much the audience does not know what really happened yet at this point.)
  10. "There's something you don't know about those photos" etc etc etc where we hear Emily fill in what Doyle (and the audience) didn't already know, and makes her behaviour fit with what we already knew about her - she put a lot on the line to protect this kid, even kept him a secret from Clyde, who has been established as Even Shadier Than Her, and all is well with our understanding of our ruthless fave.

Narratively, almost every single thing Doyle says to or about Emily is slowly revealing to the audience what he understands of what happened to his son, and then from 'there's something you don't know about those photos', it's Emily telling us what Doyle didn't know. It doesn't really make any sense (to me) for this one thing to be totally unrelated to that, especially for him to choose this particular moment to not to make it about Declan. Fahey isn't a stranger - Ian is about to have her choose the life of one innocent person she knows over another. As far as he knows at this point, she bonded with his kid and then had him killed as a means to her own end. Pointing a gun at two friends and an acquaintance and making her choose who to kill is the perfect moment to torture her with that fucked up choice he fully believes she already made.

I think with hindsight, looking back when we already know the whole story, it's easy enough to spin it another way. But in the context of this whole arc being a slow unveiling of Declan, it just doesn't make any sense to me for that to be an unrelated statement about some other shady thing she did, because all Doyle cares about is getting revenge for her getting Declan killed.

(That said, I think Emily is a pretty morally grey character, and I always think about what Reid says about the undercover cop in Retaliation - "good guy doing bad things". I'm sure Lauren did plenty of bad things because you need to if you're not going to blow your Bad Guy cover. I think Ian does that fond 'hello, Lauren' when she says to shoot Fahey not because he's familiar with her making the choice to kill someone, but because he's familiar with the ruthless logic she uses, and the way she protects the people closest to her first. It's very Emily, and apparently very Lauren too.)

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reckless (just enough) - ch 2/3.

Rating: M

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply (but we're talking about pregnancy, abortion and Emily-typical Catholic guilt, and there's a decent amount of non-graphic vomiting going on; this chapter has sexual content, as clearly consensual as sex undercover can be.)

Relationships: Eventual Hotchniss in chapter three, but this chapter has Doyle/Lauren and mostly-lone-wolf Emily.

Summary: Emily Prentiss and three pregnancies: at fifteen, thirty-three, and forty. (Demonology, Lauren arc and Hotchniss vibes.)

Chapter Excerpt: Emily turns away, white knuckling the glass of water in one hand and gripping the counter with the other, her throat burning, chest tightening, because she doesn’t have a village, and she’s spent her life telling herself she doesn’t want one. She’s never stayed in one place or been one person long enough. She still hasn’t even told her mother she’s pregnant, because every time she considers it, fifteen-year-old Emily surfaces in a wild panic and drags her into a spiral that passes through layers of guilt and fear and shame and lands her back in bed with the covers pulled up to her chin, Lauren’s baby rolling and kicking in her belly, reminding her that the time remaining to pull herself together is slipping rapidly through her fingers.

“Emily,” Louise says, a gentle hand between her shoulder blades. “I’m telling you I’m here. You’ve nothing to hide from me – I’ve seen it all and heard the rest. Now, the father – is it –?”

“Don’t,” Emily interrupts softly, because it’s not safe for anyone to know the truth, and the target she’s already put on Louise’s back is too much. “I can’t.”

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Anonymous asked:

a lot of people think that Emily and Lauren are separate people and thus, Lauren was in love with Doyle and some part of Emily was too. What do you think of this? I disagree and I think that mostly Emily has a very clear imagine of who she was dealing with but sometimes the lines blurred a little, whether she was seeing him being soft with his son or Ian having a brief moment of kindness, but I think right after that he’d do something horrible that snaps her right out of it. I don’t think she was ever in love with him and the idea that she was is literally crazy😭

Ohh interesting.

I think she loved him. I don't think it was ever simple. Like I don't think she ever thought he was a good person. But nobody is all bad, and I honestly think for some people (me, for example) it's very hard to be that close to a person and not love them at least a bit. I think she saw the humanity of him, and for some people. . . love is how they approach humanity. And then on top of that, she's having to do all the things that physically, chemically make us fall harder for a person, to do her job.

And I don't think Emily grew up with the right kind of love around her - I think she's always been someone who was starved for love and affection, and I think having the kind of too-bright love Ian had for Lauren would be so addictive.

Everything is chemicals, love especially. So yeah I think she loved him, and I think it was complicated.

I also don't think he was like on the daily doing terrible things. I think being as high level as he was, day to day at home with her, he was probably just a guy. And idk how much you know about the IRA, but. . . there are still a lot of people who basically agree with their principles and that their methods were an acceptable means to an end. He 'went freelance' obv but he was raised in a set of beliefs that I don't actually think would've felt outlandishly evil to her. And I don't think she thought, even then, that she was squeaky clean. She's exceptionally nonjudgmental.

I think she was there to do her job and she was always going to build the best profile she could and get him arrested and locked up, but I think it felt complicated. I don't think Lauren felt completely separate from her.

All that was a long way of saying I think you're right that she had a clear idea of exactly who she was dealing with. But you can love someone a lot without thinking they're a good person.

One of my favourite things about this arc is that it introduces so much complexity. Like there are a lot of reasonable ways to interpret this imo.

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The thing is...the Lauren arc goes so hard partly because of the chemistry between Prentiss and Doyle. The look on her face when she finds out he's Valhalla? The way she tries to offer him an out? The softness in his eyes when he sees her playing with Declan, the coldness there when he meets her again years later? Their scenes are electric. And when he says "you wanted to get back in my head. I changed the locks" like??? CHILLS.

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