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Discussed Judges 19 with my brother (who is a theologian) since I thought it shows a disregard for women, but I’d like to hear more opinions.

Judges 19 (NIV) takes place when the people or Israel were ignoring God and His teachings. It begins by explaining how a Levite’s concubine had been “unfaithful to him,” and then runs out on him to hide with her family. When the Levite tracks her down, the concubine’s family treats him warmly:

[The concubine] took [the Levite] into her parents’ home, and when her father saw him, he gladly welcomed him. His father-in-law, the woman’s father, prevailed on him to stay; so he remained with him three days, eating and drinking, and sleeping there.
On the fourth day they got up early and he prepared to leave, but the woman’s father said to his son-in-law, “Refresh yourself with something to eat; then you can go.” So the two of them sat down to eat and drink together. Afterward the woman’s father said, “Please stay tonight and enjoy yourself.” And when the man got up to go, his father-in-law persuaded him, so he stayed there that night.

The family are gracious hosts and care for their guests well. After this delay, the Levite does not want to stay another night (despite the father's protests again) and takes the concubine with him to travel back to his home.

After being on the road, it becomes night and they need a place to stay. No one is willing to give them a space besides an old man, who treats them well in his house. While he seems to be the ideal host, it quickly changes when “some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house.”

The wicked men made their intentions clear:

“Pounding on the door, [the men] shouted to the old man who owned the house, ‘Bring out the [Levite] who came to your house so we can have sex with him.’”

The old man decides to dissuade the men, but his methods are worthy of criticism:

“‘No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing. Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But as for this man, don’t do such an outrageous thing.’”

My brother brought to my attention this is echoing what was taught from the story of Lot (Genesis 19: 1–38), but is worthy of a separate post by itself.

Comparing the old man as a host with the concubine’s family as a host shows a significant difference, as one was the ideal host while the other is willing to sacrifice their daughter and one of their guests.

However, the old man does not sacrifice his daughter, instead it is the Levite that makes the call:

“[T]he man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night...”

The woman then dies due to the horrific abuse, and is left for dead by the wicked men. The Levite’s reaction is not described besides when he “said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go,’” and, upon the realization she’s dead, he simply “put her on his donkey” and left.

This alone is a bad enough tale: men prioritizing their own safety from rape because the rape of men is unnatural and (in their eyes) worse than the rape of a woman. They do not protect the woman and sacrifices her like chum.

However it takes a worse, more graphic turn:

When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel.
Everyone who saw it was saying to one another, ‘Such a thing has never been seen or done, not since the day the Israelites came up out of Egypt. Just imagine! We must do something! So speak up!’”

I understand this story is meant to show how the Israelites were without God’s guidance: men wanted to rape outsiders and hosts abandoned their guests. But it’s obvious to me how the sanctity of men are prioritized, but not just because they’re men. As a concubine, that woman was property. As an unfaithful concubine, she was corrupt.

The Levite is the one to toss her out the door, not the old man. He does not seem to grieve the loss of a person, but a belonging. She does not receive a proper burial, she is made into a message. He does not find her attackers, he moves on.

Can I have thoughts on how others view this story, whether it be by Christian scholars or those simply interested in feminist theory?

Judges 19 is definitely a parallel story to Lot and his daughters; my assumption is that one of the stories is based on the others but I don’t have the biblical studies cred to speculate which (although imo the smart money’s on Judges 19 being the original).

The concubine in Judges 19 is treated abysmally by the text. She’s unnamed (as is the Levite) and her only act of agency (leaving the Levite to return to her father) is overridden by men (the Levite and her father) without any concern for her wishes. In life her choices are made irrelevant. In death her body is a tool for war propaganda (it’s very important to read Judges 19 in the context of Judges 20-21, when the tribes of Israel very nearly commit genocide against the tribe of Benjamin*).

*The resolution to the near-genocide of the Benjaminites also involves women’s agency being overridden by men. The last chapters of Judges are fucked-up even by the standard of the Book of Judges

Not to be all “it gets worse,” but the text doesn’t actually say the Benjaminites rape the concubine to death. The Hebrew in 19:27 describes her as nefelet petah ha-bayit v’yadeha al-hasof (lying [at the] entrance [of] the house and her hands on the threshold). In v. 28 the Levite tells her to get up but v’ein oneh (but no reply). The Septuagint clarifies that she was dead (kai oun apekrithi oti ein nekra), but that’s an interpolation into the Hebrew; not part of the original. It’s entirely plausible to read the concubine as unconscious or dazed and her death not occurring until the Levite cuts her up.

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Anonymous asked:

Wasn't the whole sodom thing not even talking about being gay, but being shitty?

I'm not a bible scholar in the slightest. But honestly, to me it's not really about what it does or doesn't say, what it's true intentions are or are not. The bible could be thrilled about gay sex, and I would still think using a religious text as basis for law is bad.

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So the story of Sodom (Genesis 19) should be read parallel to the story of a certain Levite (Judges 19). Both feature roughly the same events, but I especially want to compare Genesis 19:6-8

6 Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him,  7 and said, “I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly.  8 Look, I have two daughters who have not known a man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.”

with Judges 19:23-24

23 And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, “No, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Since this man is my guest, do not do this vile thing.  24 Here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do whatever you want to them, but against this man do not do such a vile thing.”

In both passages the host implores the townspeople not to perform a wicked act, but in Judges it’s made abundantly clear why the act is wicked: “this man is [his] guest.” Hospitality was taken seriously in the Ancient Near East, hence both hosts are willing to sacrifice their daughters (and in the Judges story the Levite’s concubine) to the mob to keep harm from their guests. Now, it’s entirely possible that the fact that the men of Sodom and the Benjamine town wanted to rape a man added to the depravity, but the fundamental issue is protection of guests.

Compare also Ezekiel 16:49-50′s explanation of why Sodom was destroyed:

49 This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease but did not aid the poor and needy.  50 They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.

If you want to add a New Testament perspective, the Epistle of Jude is probably your best biblical basis for the sin of Sodom being homosexual sex rather than violating hospitality

7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
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I just remembered something vaguely disturbing.

Remember when God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? Before he did, a few men of God visited Lot and the men of Sodom wanted to have sex with them. Right?

INSTEAD, Lot offered his young, virgin daughters to them.

And yet, the only thing I was really taught about that passage was the men wanting to have sex with the men and how gross it was. There was never a narrative defending the daughters. There was never a discussion about rape and disrespect for women.

And that’s MESSED UP. Holy crap. We never talk about the girls who were nearly raped and beaten at their father’s whim. What the hell.

Judges 19 is a parallel story that’s even worse. In that one, the man does give the woman (his concubine in that story rather than his daughter) to the mob. Phyllis Trible refers to as a “text of terror.” (I haven’t read the book, but I’ve had it recommended on good authority)

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One of my favorite stories in Christian mythology is Samson and Delilah. I’ve always thought their story was terribly romantic. I toying with the idea of doing a mini webcomic with them, but I really don’t have time. Anyway, this is my version of the first time they meet.

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I am really curious as to how you see their story as romantic. Because their story is basically “Samson falls in love with Delilah, Delilah repeatedly tricks him into revealing his weakness so that her people can kill him.”

A large part of a relationship is sharing ones vulnerability with another person and hoping that they will understand and guard the secret as their own. In Samson and Delilah, he knows he’s taking a huge risk in sharing the secret of his strength or else he wouldn’t have lied the first three times, but he tells her anyway. He clearly loves her and hopes she’ll be true. I think that is romantic. The tragic aftermath reaffirms how much of a risk samson took in revealing his weakness. I guess i like my ending on the dark side.

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One of my favorite stories in Christian mythology is Samson and Delilah. I’ve always thought their story was terribly romantic. I toying with the idea of doing a mini webcomic with them, but I really don’t have time. Anyway, this is my version of the first time they meet.

Created with a huion tablet on FireAlpaca

I am really curious as to how you see their story as romantic. Because their story is basically “Samson falls in love with Delilah, Delilah repeatedly tricks him into revealing his weakness so that her people can kill him.”

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Someone in the #christianity tag is reading the Bible cover-to-cover and blogging each chapter. They’re currently in Genesis. They’re bored and think they’ll be glad to be done with it and start Exodus and I’m just

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I don’t know how Jews do it. The Torah isn’t close my favorite out of the books in the Christian Bible. I mean, Genesis is nice. Lots of nice little stories. But the rest is pretty long and drawn-out. Lots of names and numbers and begots. There’s a funny story about Jacob’s wives fighting over a mandrake at one point. And misogyny. Lots of that, of course. And that awful story about the female slave who was gang-raped all night long but somehow managed to crawl back to the place her master was staying before she died and when he woke up, he found her, said “Oh, there you are, get up, let’s go” and he realized she was dead. But I don’t think that’s in the Pentatuech.

  1. I believe you’re referring to Judges 19-21
  2. The story is much worse than you remember

Yeah! Judges. God, I hate that book. The female judge is cool, though. What’s her name–Deborah? And oh, I remember the story in detail. I just don’t want to mention it all. Especially the part about the cutting into pieces … 

Btw did you notice that the story in Judges is just like Sodom and Gomorrah except that instead of refusing the offer of the woman, they do accept her and rape her wantonly all night. Dr John Corvino drew this parallel in discussing that narrative and its relation to queer theology.

It’s fairly obvious that one of the stories is based off the other. I’m not enough of a biblical scholar to know which, but I’d bet that the one in Judges is older.

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Someone in the #christianity tag is reading the Bible cover-to-cover and blogging each chapter. They’re currently in Genesis. They’re bored and think they’ll be glad to be done with it and start Exodus and I’m just

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I don’t know how Jews do it. The Torah isn’t close my favorite out of the books in the Christian Bible. I mean, Genesis is nice. Lots of nice little stories. But the rest is pretty long and drawn-out. Lots of names and numbers and begots. There’s a funny story about Jacob’s wives fighting over a mandrake at one point. And misogyny. Lots of that, of course. And that awful story about the female slave who was gang-raped all night long but somehow managed to crawl back to the place her master was staying before she died and when he woke up, he found her, said “Oh, there you are, get up, let’s go” and he realized she was dead. But I don’t think that’s in the Pentatuech.

  1. I believe you’re referring to Judges 19-21
  2. The story is much worse than you remember
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I like to think of the story as a final condemnation of human sacrifice. (Some accounts say that Isaac was willing too—like Josephus)

How do you interpret the story of Jephthah’s daughter?

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Was it written by the same author? 

(I’ve read some probably sugarcoated analysis that probably said she was just supposed to work at the Temple as a maid or something but that’s probably not the case, right?)

No, they were written by different authors. The story of the binding of Isaac is from the E source, whereas Judges is a mixture of Deuteronomic history and other texts incorporated by the Deuteronomic historian.

I find the exegeses arguing that Jephthah's daughter was not literally sacrificed to be dubious in the extreme. It is certainly possible to read the story of Isaac as a retelling of Judges 11, just as it is possible to read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah as a retelling of Judges 19-21, but I don't know how much support there is for that in the academic literature.

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Judges 19-21

I’ve been slowly making my way through my Bible in no particular order. Judges 19-21 has been the toughest passage for me so far and I’ve read it twice. The second time provided some much needed clarity and understanding. Praise God for online commentaries!

First of all, in the context of the rest of Judges, I realised that this was a lawless period in Israel’s history. Although God still made an appearance in their lives, He often wasn’t put first and He definitely wasn’t what they were centered on. I definitely understand what that’s like.

When God isn’t your first stop in any situation you end up resorting to all sort of immoral ways to fix your mess. That’s what they did in Judges 21.

While we as Christians see God as our heavenly Father to whom we can apologise and make solemn petition, they seemed to see God as unapproachable. They didn’t even try to seek Him to help right their wrongs. Instead they succumbed to worldly ways to mend their mistakes and created more blunders.

It kind of made me understand that the Bible isn’t just an account of God. It is also a narrative of a people’s history. As such I can’t assume that God always agreed with their conduct.

It's fairly heavily implied that God supported the near-genocide of the Benjaminites. In 20:23 God commands the Israelites to again go to war with the Benjaminites, a command repeated in 20:28. 20:35 says that God gave victory to the Benjaminites, giving the fatalities among the Benjaminites in the same breath.

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Bible Inconsistency #006

In Genesis 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.

BUT!

Revelation 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

Joseph is the father of two tribes of Israel: Manasseh and Ephraim because he's Jacob's favorite. Levi became the priestly clan, but had no associated territory, and so was not considered a tribe.

A better example of this contradiction is the Song of Deborah in Judges 5 where the tribes are Ephraim, Benjamin, Machir, Zebulun, Issachar, Reuben, Gilead, Dan, Asher, and Naphtali. Note especially the absence of Judah, David's tribe.

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[Text: Am I the only one who thinks Jephthah made his oath/To have an excuse to kill his daughter?]

Explanation for non-biblical folks: Judges 11 is the charming story of how Jephthah promised YHWH that if YHWH gave him victory in battle, he would sacrifice the first thing* to come out of his house on his return as a burnt offering to YHWH. Now, when Jephthah came home, his daughter was there to greet him, and Jephthah makes a great fuss about how he cannot take back his vow.

But why was his daughter there? To greet her returning father as was right and proper. As he knew she would. And clearly he did not tell her about his oath, or she would have sent a goat or a slave** out instead. He knew she would be the first out of the house, he knew she would have to die.

Jephthah: J'accuse

*Most translation read "whatever" or in Judges 11:31. The NRSV reads "whoever." The Hebrew word is yatsa which Strong's concordance translates as "to come out of"; no subject is supplied for yatsa. A brief concordance study (i.e. reading the first page of the concordance for yatsa) shows that the word was used to refer to both people and things.

**Presumably she'd only send out a slave if Jephthah's oath required specifically that a person be sacrificed to YHWH.

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