I’m trying to prove a point to someone at my work and a need a very specific clip from Dragon Ball GT:

Does anyone have a link to that clip?

I’ll take YouTube, TikTok, a pirating site, whatever can be watched on a phone.

Dragon Ball GT fic I will never write

Someone went through my blog today and reblogged a bunch of my old Dragon Ball posts and its got me remembering that I once had an idea to do a long fic series taking place after Dragon Ball GT.

That's right, GT. I didn't like the series, but I did really like parts of it.

Does anyone remember the ending?

Not the 100 years flash forward with Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. that was the "epilogue". I mean the Ending, when Goku got on Shenlong's back and they disappeared and the Dragon Balls disappeared with them.

Goku's wish was to bring everyone who died back to life; and that's exactly what happened: everyone who died as a result of the evil dragons came back to life (plus Kuririn who was killed by Super 17).

BUT THAT'S IT!

The people came back to life, but the cities weren't rebuilt, the land wasn't repaired. All the people who just came back to life didn't have homes to live in, the livestock that died wasn't revived, the farmlands weren't repaired.

How did Goku expect the people he just brought back to life to survive?

Goku doesn't have to think about that because Goku vanished with the dragon.

Its everyone else who has to deal with it.

Bulma, Gohan, 18, Kuririn, Yamcha, Vegeta, Trunks, Goten, Pan, Roshi, etc. (I'm not gonna list everyone). They're the ones who now have to figure out how to house, feed, and provide healthcare for the population Goku just revived.

Also-!

(My favorite scene) Remember Vegeta's very well done trauma scene during the final battle? When he was -literally- crying over watching his second home being destroyed. Earth will still need champions and Goku just went poof.

But Goku never taught anyone the Kaio Ken and Genki Dama, the two moves that consistently save the Earth every time, or the Instant Transmission which is arguably Goku's most useful technique. How is anyone supposed to defend the Earth when they no longer have their champion or the means for a new champion to rise to the occasion?

Anyway, my fic idea:

The first part was going to be a "team building" fic of Vegeta going around collecting all the next gen characters

(he tried really hard to get Gohan but Gohan insists that he could do more to help in his capacity as a scholar/doctor/scientist/whatever Chi-chi made him major in, and rebuilt Earth's infrastructure.)

Marron volunteers but she's fully human and isn't the reincarnation of any kind of powerful djinn like Uub, so Vegeta turns her away (and maybe he calls her useless).

So, Gohan and Bulma was working on rebuilding Earth, Vegeta is being a tyrannical task master trying to train most of the kids, and Marron goes to Master Roshi and convinces him to train her in the Kame Style exactly how he trained Goku. Marron wears the turtle shell, she delivers milk, (I forget what else Roshi had them do in Dragon Ball, but Marron does it).

Bulma and Gohan are making great progress rebuilding society. Marron is advancing quickly in her Kame training and is confident and happy. Meanwhile, all the other kids are miserable under Vegeta's strict drills.

Some character development and plot happens, but basically, they realize that they need a "Kuririn" in their group.

They need a human who may or may not be very useful in the actual battles, but never the less never gives up, has a healthy relationship with fear and understands mortality, and is still willing to sacrifice themself if it means saving others.

Marron, even though she was rejected from being a member of their champion group still continued to train independently from them. She'll never be as powerful as the Saiyans or Uub, but its not about power for her, its about doing what she can. She understands her own mortality and has a healthy relationship with fear, but still wants to help in whatever capacity she can.

Marron is their Kuririn.

Vegeta doesn't fully get this concept even if he recognizes that its necessary. He's also too proud to admit that the team might benefit from having Marron after he rejected her the first time.

Trunks is the one goes to Kame House and invites Marron to join the team.

That was gonna be the end of part 1.

Part 2 was gonna be centered around the techniques that Goku never taught to anyone else even though he had plenty of opportunity to teach them to Gohan in the Room of Spirit and Time in Z, or Trunks and Pan during GT.

Vegeta has Bulma build another space ship and sends the kids on a mission to the same planet Goku crashed on after the destruction of Namek to learn the Instant Transmission technique from the original people who taught it to Goku in the first place.

While they're off planet, Vegeta tries to work with the remaining Z Senshi to try and engineer their own version of the Ginki Dama. They all have experience lending their power to Goku to form it, Vegeta was almost killed by it, and Kuririn has actually held and thrown it before. They all have first hand experience (albeit from different angles) with the technique. Vegeta's hope is to have a workable version of it ready to teach to the kids by the time they get back.

(also, there was gonna be a TruMar subplot)

Some opinions on Dragon Ball ships (specifically just with Trunks):

In complete and total honesty, my OTP is actually a crossover ship. Trunks with Chibiusa from Sailor Moon. Both royal brats, both time travelers, from a dystopian/destroyed future, motivated to protect their parent(s), SEVERE DADDY ISSUES! ...they have so much in common to bond over and build a relationship on. As far as I'm concerned they're soulmates. They just have to get over the one little hurdle of existing in two different universes. But as far as ships that stay within the Dragon Ball universe, Trunks is my favorite character. All versions of Trunks. Mirai, Chibi, GT, Time Cop, etc. I love him all. So I'm very picky about who gets shipped with him. I hate how after GT the vast majority of the fandom shipped him with Pan. Not only does Pan irritate me as an independent and unattached character, she is too young. Remember the end of Dragon Ball Z? She was a TODDLER when he was 18. There is a fourteen year age difference between them. That’s gross, and creepy, and just no! In addition to that, (as is appropriate for her age) Pan is  immature.In GT she’s  self-centered, nagging, obnoxious, small minded, petty, and not clever enough to be with Trunks.  Mai, I really have no compelling feelings about one way or another. It is technically canon, so I do have to give it some small amount of acceptance, even if I do disagree. I can see how/why she would be a good match for Mirai Trunks. Mai is a soldier and a survivor -figuratively, but in the Mirai timeline, literally as well. She has gone up against Goku and truly understands how dangerous Saiyans can be, but she's not afraid. She sees Trunks as a person, not a power house. Similarly, because of her experiences with Goku, she has a healthy fear but no hesitation when it comes to Goku-Black. She knows she can't defeat him, but she also won't hesitate to support Trunks against him. She is a good partner for him in the Miria timeline. However, shipping her with Chibi Trunks in the main timeline I have very strong feelings about. It is creepy. Lets remember that, while Mai may be in the body of a child, she is actually a woman in her forties (fifties?). She is old enough to be Trunks' mother! Mentally, an adult. Physical ages be damned, SHE SHOULD NOT FIND A TEEN/PRE-TEEN BOY ATTRACTIVE! The whole idea of Mai with Chibi Trunks makes my skin crawl and I do not like it. Its the exact same objection I have to TruPan, just the reverse.  I think Trunks and Goten is cute, and I can see them experimenting together in their late teen/early twenties. In their experimental years. But they also grew up together. In a lot of ways they're more like brothers than just best friends, and sometimes shipping them together feels a bit more like incest. They're cute. But, over all, I have to be in a mood to read a Truten fic -even a clean one. 

Likewise, I can see why people ship Mirai Trunks with Mirai Gohan. But, again, to me their relationship feels more familial than romantic. I’m pretty sure in the English dub Gohan even calls Trunks “little brother” at one point (its been years since I’ve watched it so I might be wrong about that detail). But it’s kinda hard to ship a pair of characters after a line like that. Certainly they care about each other, of course! But I just can’t see them romantically. 

As for Gohan and Chibi Trunks from the main timeline, that one shouldn’t even be on the radar. Gohan is eleven when Trunks is, like, one! There’s a 10 year age gap! Gohan was old enough to change Trunks’ diapers! And I’m pretty sure Bulma or even Chichi would have asked him to help out at some point. I’m sorry, but you can’t date someone after wiping their shit-smeared ass for them. Finding Gohan/Trunks fic in the archives seriously creeps me out! Keeping things strictly within the DB universe (multi-verse?) and not crossing it over with other anime, my main ship for Trunks is Marron. 

They are my solid ship. Their ages are perfect. Close enough to not be creepy or even just "uncomfortable". But still far enough apart so that they didn't really spend too much time together as children so they're not pseudo-siblings like Trunks and Goten. 

GT tried to make Marron some kind of "wilting flower" having her claim she's afraid of flying, but lets get real for a sec. Do any of us honestly believe that Android 18 would allow her daughter and only child grow up to be afraid of flying? No. Eighteen would want to make sure her daughter can take care of herself. Not just fight and defend herself, but also make sure Marron was never stranded and always had a way to get home. Marron would definitely be trained in ki techniques. Of course she’d never be as powerful a fighter as anyone in the core team, but definitely not the dead weight GT made her out to be. 

Also, Marron knows what it's like to grow up with a former villain as a parent. A former villain parent whom the others in their group might still be low-key afraid of or intimidated by. A former villain parent who has used her power for intimidation and extortion -like when she tried to put the squeeze on Mr. Satan for the money he owed her. Marron and Trunks have a lot in common to bond over and use as the foundation to build a relationship. A solid foundation. For a solid relationship. 

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