new updated drive with psych abolition resources! it’s sorted into folders for specific subtopics for things like harm reduction, different types of support, disability justice readings, mad liberation zines, etc. it’s not complete yet—there’s a bunch more resources I want to add once I’m at my laptop again but wanted to share now!

Pspspsp can we please bring back the concept of enorders please?

Imagine.

Imagine!

Autism Spectrum Enorder being so ruined even the aspect supremacists cannot touch their own idea because the woke transid havers have touched it

Aaaaaa

(Anyways we are rageview and are upset people don't know about enorders more!!)

Enorders.

ENORDERS.

@mudarchive, @maki--archive, @frb-but-cooler because first one is relevant, the other two we interact with a lot, feel free to as for add-on or removal of blogs.

therapists drove it so hard that "it's over now" and "let go of those old irrelevant coping skills/ maybe that WAS useful in abuse, but now we've decided you arent being abused anymore, we've decided it's your maladaption that is the primary problem in your life" and also that thing that says "when you grow up in a burning house, you think the whole world is on fire [because you are so crazy from abuse, but you're wrong]" and "your trauma worldview lense distorts your vision of reality" and im so tired of it. im the one who is capable and willing to acknowledge when shit is fucked. im not simply doing ptsd hysterics because my brains are scrambled. "if it's negative, it's a lie" is not real. wake up. look at the world with your eyes open. acknowledge when shit is fucked so we can all move faster towards making it better as soon as possible you dumb clown.

im tired of trauma and ptsd being treated like its some kind of delusion. therapists treating me like the lessons i learned while being abused are the real problem, and focusing on breaking those apart 1000000000x more than making the world a one in which those lessons are not true anymore. my trauma is not a lie. my ptsd is not irrational. the abuse was real, and it will continue to be real, and abusing me more in order to "treat" it is not the flex you think it is. thats what the real tragedy is: that the things trauma taught me are true. instead of instilling me with thought reform and literal mind control to not let me acknowledge reality, how about you help me escape actual real abuse????????????????????????????

they wont.

its so stupid how hard grained their storybook narrative is... abuse only exists in the past, if you think you are still being abused its because your brain is faulty, ptsd makes you so crazy :( but you definitely aren't still in hell because bad things never happen in the present! the world is good and people are good and you need to learn to trust in a world and in people who will abuse you again the second they get the chance :) recovery. everything is nice and fine all the time, you're just crazy. maybe things WERE bad (and not even THAT bad because nothing truly is that bad), but now they arent bad! cause thats how the Story goes. learn to believe the correct beliefs and draw the correct conclusions from your (allegedly) sad experience: forgiveness, forgetfulness, and learn to trust everyone no matter again what like a good, sane person does. happily ever after (as long as you do everything we tell you without comment) :) arent you so lucky to have been blessed with this Opportunity for Growth. you get to be traumatized and to recover so you can tell other people about it later and inspire them. grins.

i remember leading questions too like "things are a lot better now arent they :)" and when i said they werent actually, that i still need to escape abuse, they say its my irrational delusion of ptsd. period. they have a lifetime movie in mind when they meet people with suffering, and its not allowed to be anything else or im crazy and im misunderstanding my own life.

Honestly not much radicalized me in regards to bodily autonomy the way being a chronic selfharmer for 10+ years has. And one of those things that really are so awful to deal with is a lack of privacy.

When I go inpatient and they ask me if I have wounds, and I answer honestly, they dont just write that down. They make me undress and show each single one, otherwise I wont be "processed" and let into my room.

In the underage psych ward I was in they would sometimes search the rooms of known selfharmers while we were away at a therapy appointment, or seeing family in the visitation room, etc. They wouldn't tell you. They would lie about it if you asked about it. But all your shit had been moved around slightly, enough for observant people to notice. If they found blades, or any other sharp object regardless of it you had used it to selfharm though, you would obviously be punished.

One time I cut and went to the nurses for help, I was scared because it had never been that deep before and their response was tossing my room after I had voluntarily given them the two blades i had, while a male nurse kept saying how uncomfortable he was that he "had to" inspect my pads, saying "why would you need that many", ... they had metal detectors. They could've just swiped it across everything. But that wouldn't have been humiliating enough like seeing a nurse dig through my underwear and pads and diary.

Outside of the psych ward, my family kept up a similar approach. They did not search my room at least, knowing it was futile because there were always knifes in the house if I was desperate anyways, and a store down the street that sold razors. But locked doors were my mothers enemy. If I locked my door to masturbate, and she noticed it was locked? She would knock and yell until I opened it. If I simply wanted to relax in a bath but she decided it was suspiciously long ? The same.

When they couldn't catch me in the act but my scars kept getting more and more theyd threaten me with being hospitalized again.

When the hospital ER would send me to the closed ward for cuts that had nothing to do with suicidal ideation, but they decided I must be lying because it was deep enough, no matter how often I said I simply "messed up" because of adrenaline and blades that were sharper than expected. They had no legal ground to lock me up again but who cares, right. Its just one of those freaks who cuts themselves anyways.

And none of this kept me safe. None of this prevented me from cutting majority of the time. It made me distrust the ER. It made me distrust nurses. It made me hide my body even around my family. And when it did momentarily work I simply started harming myself in other ways. I ended up covered in bruises, with minor concussions, increasingly starving myself, depriving myself of sleep, ...

No one ever went "let's really try to figure out why you do this." Instead they went "why the fuck wont you just chew some bubble gum and roll a spikey ball on the soles of your feet you depressed fuck" or some shit like bro I am being severely traumatized by the world and this is my reaction. It's all "you are the problem".

And as an adult whos decided that I'm not interested in quitting, who "only" practices harm reduction I know that absolutely no one wants to accept that as a choice I should be allowed to make. Doesnt matter that I'm an expert at taking care of wounds and I have not had a single infection in 10+ years aside from once on wounds that got fucking stitched at the hospital. that I actively do my best to avoid lasting damage. That I try to keep the frequency low. They put me through years of surveillance and shame and threats without ever trying to see the root cause, only ever treat me as a bratty problem child who's being difficult just to fuck with them, and can not understand why that wouldn't make me want to stick to the goals they have set for me.

Therapists genuinely lose their mind when I tell them I don't want ~sobriety~ I just want to reduce harm and get on with my life. Their teachings do not allow for this to be but a short term compromise. I do not care.

that cop therapist post is probably not wrong (i don't know the stats offhand but i would not be surprised if there's a cop to psych professional pipeline, at least for jobs that don't require grad degrees) but it's also irritating that it's missing the more fundamental point that psychiatric institutions are carceral institutions and psychiatry as a discipline serves a carceral function. serve time in court mandated 'treatment' or serve time in jail / prison. act in a way deemed too aberrant and get medicated or institutionalised against your will. etc. this applies regardless of whether your psych or therapist trained as a cop or social worker or physician and it's why people who think "defund the police" means "replace them with psychiatric intervention" are not just foolish but dangerous. psychiatry is part of the carceral apparatus, structurally; its practitioners are cops, structurally; stop redirecting this to complain about individuals or specific career paths

everytime i see someone promoting crisis lines i just remember the times both a suicide hotline and a domestic violence hotline hung up on me lmao

to elaborate on this further why i despise crisis lines:

suicide hotline operator told me to go check myself into the psych ward. i explained i cant do that because im living paycheck to paycheck and had this wild idea that maybe coming out of the psych ward afterwards and now being homeless wasnt gonna be helpful to my mental health actually. they got bitchy and said "i cant help you if you dont want to help yourself" and hung up

domestic violence operator told me to go to a battered womens shelter, informed me they only had 12 day stays before you had to leave and asked me if i had somewhere to go afterwards. i said no. she said "than why did you call the hotline" and i was completely speechless. she went on to berate me because i didnt want to lose literally everything i owned because starting your entire life over from scratch is fucking HARD and told me then it must not be that bad. this was something i had heard from cops already 100 times. and then she hung up on me.

fuck crisis lines.

to add to this, I feel like there has been a huge emphasis on NOT asking your friends for help because ohhh it's sooo bad to rely on others or have other people deal with your emotions. or whatever. but in reality they are your best bet and your friends would agree that it would be well worth the trouble to be there for you. even if it's heavy, even if it's hard, even if in reality you can't physically do much. it's still always a step above crisis lines.

if you're having a hard time, please message a friend you can trust. if you know someone who might be having a hard time, check on them. if they say they're alright? ask twice. make sure they're okay.

no, your friends aren't your therapists, but your friends ARE your friends, and you should rely on them when you need to, even if its messy and socially unacceptable. we did not get anywhere as a race by relying on ourselves, we relied on each other. go talk to your friends right now

I am begging Mental Health Culture to stop broadening the definition of "self-harm." If you want a term to convey the concept you're trying to express, may I suggest bringing back the term "bad habit"? "Self-harm" is grounds for involuntary commitment. Do you want people to get involuntarily committed for spending too much time on the internet before bed or volunteering for too many projects? No? Then don't give coercive psychiatry ammunition by broadening the usage of their coercive terminology! When I first started out in the Mad liberation advocacy movement, one of the arguments we made against involuntary commitment and coercive intervention for "self-harm" was that neurotypical people do things that are "bad for them" all the time, like playing football, smoking tobacco, or eating candy, and they still have the bodily autonomy right to make those "unhealthy" choices. The point was to highlight the double standard that some people were denied rights because of doing things that were allegedly "bad for them," while other people were allowed the dignity of risk and freedom to choose. Our point was "The neurodivergent/Mad person picking her skin should have the same right to bodily autonomy as the neurotypical person dancing ballet, even though both are doing things to their bodies that could be described as 'bad for them.'" The argument was that neither should be pathologized. Current discourse would pathologize both, as well as even more variations on human behavior. That's a big step backwards. "But it's only self-harm if it has certain emotional motivations" -- let me stop you right there. Coercive psychiatry does not ask us what our emotional motivations are. It dictates to us what our emotional motivations are, and increases the coercion if we disagree with it (because disagreeing with their assessments of our emotional state is also A Symptom). Do you think the Parental Surveillance Industrial Complex is going to listen to their children before following through on moral panic articles about how parents should take away their children's hobbies because they're "self-harm"? Don't ascribe good faith to coercive psychiatry, because coercive psychiatry doesn't ascribe good faith to you.

Honestly, mabye self harm just isn't a good term to have. Like, it only exists to lump in behaviors that people get abused for. It might make sense to just drop it, and describe things like skin picking or cutting with the specific terms we have for them.

I absolutely would abolish the term "self-harm." Inherently "harm" is a value judgment -- maybe I don't think what I'm doing to my body is "Harmful," because it's what I want.

"Oh, but if you're objectively causing injury--" it's objectively causing injury if I let someone stab a needle through my earlobe so I can hang jewelry from it, but that's perfectly socially acceptable.

Counterpoint: what we should be saying is that it's not fucking okay for psychiatry or anything/anyone else to take away the autonomy of those who Actually Really Self-Harm.

Self-harm can be a useful term. There's a difference between me staying up late because I want to finish my painting and between me biting my arm because I need to externalize my mental pain or to punish myself (just personal examples, and the point is about the goals not the actions I just don't immediately recall an action I'd do for both). That difference should not have to necessary be erased so the latter does not get me involuntary hospitalized!!! Let's fight the taking of autonomy itself, not go "hey actually these are things Normal People Do we are Normal People so we don't deserve to have our autonomy taken away". I am not saying that you are saying that there are those who do. But you are still approaching it from the wrong side.

And I am not telling anyone how to label their experiences. But you are.

Appealing to psychiatric authority will not bring long term legitimacy to plural systems. We have seen the attempts to show modern pro-system and pro-endo sources to antis and cringers fail to change their minds time and time again. And even if it was an effective tactic, legitimizing psychiatry is dangerous in its own right. In order to create a society primed to accept all ways of being, we need to foster acceptance of the strange and abnormal, NOT fight to be assimilated into normality.

People have compiled impressive and comprehensive lists of sources that show how modern psychiatry and psychology is not as hostile to the idea of systems, whether traumagenic or endo, as antis believe. It has likely been very validating to the community, but has it actually changed the minds of skeptical singlets and anti-endos? I'm not seeing much evidence of that. Time and time again we see interactions where anti-endos are given the sources, but they do not read them, do not engage with them, and do not provide sources back for their own points. It might be fun to laugh at them, to feel validated in their inability to engage with sources or arguments, but aside from feeling our own validation and feel as if we ‘owned’ someone, what does it accomplish?

Anti-endos do not trust the sources that pro-endos provide. Period. Why would they? Most anti-endos already think they know what scientific authority says, and like transmeds, feel this is a situation of appropriation and delusion. Cringers don’t give a damn either. We’re all just freaks who think we’re more than one person, or a bunch of silly children pretending to have a ‘mental illness’ to them. We’re an acceptable target for them to make fun of. Both anti-endo systems and singlet cringers have entire communities at their back to affirm their existing beliefs about what science says, about what is possible. Put yourselves in their shoes. If a conservative came to you and said you were wrong about something, and provided a long laundry list of sources to prove you wrong, do you think you would read it all? Trust any of it? Or would you dismiss that information because of who is presenting it to you? Most leftists would! Because looking over sources, especially scientific sources, is difficult, it's time consuming. Trying to change people’s minds through pure evidence and logic does not work. It's not capability with how most people function.

But is this evidence maybe convincing so-called neutrals, or mainstream singlets who don't know any of this discourse yet? Possibly. But it feels less about actually educating folks on systems and plurality, and more about convincing the mainstream left to adopt plurals into their assimilated group along with gay, trans, and other queer folks, so that there is a social pressure to accept the identity. Because NOT accepting a valid identity gets you kicked out of the in-group, and accepting the wrong identity does the same. That’s the band-aid solution, make enough appeals of authority to get a seat at the valid marginalization table, and right now, the anti-endos want in on the basis of being a valid disorder, so endos aren’t allowed. But it is just as shaky a foundation to argue that all systems belong at this table BECAUSE there are scientific sources that say it is so.

But assimilation will not save systems. It will not save the freaks, or anyone with an identity strange, bizarre, and too unresearched to make the cut to the validity table. I’m done arguing for a two-pronged approach. I am done with the idea that we need to shill psych research and defend a field that is rooted in harm and has continued to do harm throughout its whole existence. I will not legitimize an institution that abuses its power, its patients, and serves capital, not people. Because that IS how it functions, no matter how good intentioned those that enter the field may be. A good intentioned cop is still a cop. A good intentioned therapist is still inside a system that works to make everyone normal, good, and productive under capitalism. Just because they’re starting to see some systems as normal, doesn’t mean the foundations of their philosophy aren’t toxic, harmful, and wrong. I will not give them any more social power by pretending I give a damn what they have to say.

Legitimizing psychiatry is dangerous. If we use their words to prove our own validity, what happens when their attitudes change, aren't radical enough, single out certain sections of our community as invalid or something that needs to be cured? If we continue to point to scientific research to prove that gay, trans, plural, and others are valid, what happens when their ideas change? What about those with neurodivergencies or other identities that aren’t validated by science or even dismissed by them? Priming the public to trust psych more does not prime them to trust peoples’ words about their own internal experiences and desires.

Being gay and transgender were disorders until activists fought to change that. It wasn’t as if cis and straight people woke up one day and decided, oh actually we should do some research to make sure these aren’t disorders.

Every time a new identity group becomes more public, they become a laughing stock to the right AND the left. People on the left compare them to being gay or trans and other marginalized groups. They’ll say, ‘you’re not oppressed like trans people, your deluded,’ or ‘you just want to be oppressed,’ to a wide range of folks including plurals, nonhumans, and more. Maybe once systems get tarred and feathered enough they’ll get that application for assimilation. Maybe we’ll see ‘We believe in science’ and ‘Trans rights are human rights’ alongside ‘Systems are real’ on someone’s lawn someday. But will accepting conditional assimilation on the basis of scientific authority pave the way for all systems to be accepted, and other fringe identities to be accepted? Or is it just continuing the cycle of assimilation and gambling our continued acceptance on the hope that psychiatry won’t come back to bite us in the ass? If we keep pandering to the institutions in place, instead of working to teach society to accept everyone’s identity based on their word, then we’re relying on a shaky foundation that is only a few conservative movements away from being swept out from under us all entirely.

-Mod Simon Metafarers

Every form of abuse commonly perpetuated by parents is also commonly perpetuated by teachers and therapists.

Every form of abuse commonly perpetuated by teachers is also commonly perpetuated by parents and therapists.

Every form of abuse commonly perpetuated by therapists is also commonly perpetuated by parents and teachers.

Yet discussion of abuse by any one of those agents is always met with the response that the other two agents can solve it, like a constant, depressing three-way loop.

If you respond to abuse by teachers with "This is why parents need to be more involved!" and respond to abuse by parents with "This is why therapists should be more involved!" and respond to abuse by therapists with "Parents and teachers should stop this!" then... what happens to kids who have parents, teachers, and therapists who are all abusive in the exact same way? Which is... quite a common scenario?

For people who haven’t heard: this month, the DSM (diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders) are planning on updating the criteria for getting an autism diagnosis. On paper, this sounds like a good thing. It’s not.

The DSM is the handbook used by healthcare workers worldwide, for diagnosing mental disorders and the like. You may have read that the autistic diagnosis criteria is getting updated and, like many in the autistic community, hoped that this meant that it would be expanded, to make it easier for AFAB, transgender, and non-white people to be diagnosed (as it is notoriously hard for anyone except for white, cisgender men to obtain an autism diagnosis). However, they recently released a statement saying that they were not expanding the criteria, but were instead making it more ‘conservative’, as they feel autism is being ‘over-diagnosed’. (Which is, of course, bullshit for a whole plethora of reasons which I’m sure you’ve heard before.)

As-of my posting this, they have not released the official, updated criteria yet, so there is not much we can do right now. But there is one thing that we must agree upon: DO NOT SHAME PEOPLE FOR SELF-DIAGNOSING WITH AUTISM. Because obtaining an autism diagnosis is, quite literally, only getting harder.

The DSM seriously made the criteria, found out that it applies to more people than they expected, and instead of understanding that it’s because autism is more common than they expected, they decided that their own diagnostic criteria must be wrong and the solution is to make it even more inaccessible for anyone other than young white boys to get diagnosed.

What the actual fuck.

So, yeah. Don’t shame people for self diagnosis, because for a lot of autistic people that’s the only option they have. And it’s getting worse.

All of the above but I *will* add that if autism diagnosis was extremely accessible shaming anyone for self-dxing would still have to have no place.

In my experience, the only "tool" that therapists have against a suicidal individual that most normal people usually don't, if you can call it that, is that they can threaten to throw you in an institution where you'll be forcefully drugged and lose what little personal autonomy you had in your life. That could happen, the threat of being thrown in a place like that could dissuade someone from killing themselves in the short term, at the expense of further traumatizing the vast majority of people that pass through such places. But it only works once. Because once you've been through that experience you'll internalize that you should not broach topics such as suicidal ideation or psychosis in front of people ever again. Instead you should keep everything to yourself until you work up the courage to die without communicating anything to your friends or therapist.

Hint: no one knows how to deal with suicidal people perfectly well! It's awful. Friendship and in fact every human relationship is premised on the idea that even if we think we know someone pretty well, we don't fully understand what is going on other people's heads all the time, yet we do our best to not wound them. Friendship is built on that assumption, that whatever you do or say, it is done sympathetically. And yeah, it is terrifying. You don't know whether something that is meant in kindness might hurt someone. No one knows until they've spoken it. People just say "only therapists know how to deal with it" to excuse themselves of that fact, to pretend there's a class of prescient people that are incapable of making such mistakes, so that they don't have to take any risks when speaking to their friends. That just makes you a worse friend. It doesn't fucking help them.

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Psychologists are trained to deal with things that most people have no idea how to deal with. E.g. what if someone came to you saying “I want to kill myself, in fact I have planned it for tomorrow”. Do you know what to do to help them not kill themselves? You might make it worse. Or dealing with kids with ASD? Or learning disabilities? Sorry, therapists aren’t just Expensive Friends.

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Also jesus fuck “kids with ASD” like autistic children are not psychiatrically abused on a horrible scale.

Also the phrase feels objectifying tbh.

i often see posts going around saying “it’s bad to freakshame saying ‘go to therapy for being a freak,’ because therapists are actually supposed to/actually help people to feel less distressed, not to make them normal.” this is an extremely harmful take. ideally, therapists would all only help people to feel less distressed (on their own terms), and not target deviance. unfortunately, this is not the reality right now. many, arguably most therapists are actually freak-haters too and do want to/try to make abnormal people more normal. it’s often even in their job descriptions. in fact, if you study the history of psychiatry it becomes incredibly obvious that much of the modern psych establishment wasn’t begun to genuinely help people, but to try to remove deviance. it is incredibly triggering for survivors of therapist/psychiatric abuse (especially abuse targeting deviance) when we see these posts going around pretending our trauma doesn’t/couldn’t exist, implicitly aligning our interests as freaks with the interests of our abusers and oppressors. stop doing that. stop reblogging those posts (uncritically, at least).

the bigots are right, actually, that “go to therapy” as an insult invokes a medical authority which basically agrees with them. but the solution to that isn’t to try to pretend that therapy (in general) Is Good Actually; the solution is to stop doing all of the above, as a whole.

My preadolescent experiences with multiple different mental health professionals were all focused on getting me to behave normally, at the cost of my own well-being. I have more than one friend who has faced intense and blatant bigotry from transphobic psychiatrists. Being harmed and even abused in mental health treatment is not rare.

the thing about being a psychiatric survivor is that there is truly no way for you to perform sanity or rationality well enough to prove yourself. your intimate knowledge of the psych system + your experiences with providers will always be a result of "disorder" + liberals will politely tell you that your informed opinions are delusional but ~uwu it's ok sweetie, there's no shame in that~

on the other hand, their knowledge + experiences with the psych system are, of course, objectively correct + unquestionably rational :)

As someone who's been through therapy for it, yep, it sure is abusive. I had no privacy and was yelled at for throwing up because they refused to believe I was genuinely physically ill from fear foods and not just making myself do it out of self hatred. Unsurprisingly my body almost gave up on me after it all and I had to go to the ER for it... because they don't know how to actually help people. They're given the label of a professional but that degree is in memorizing habits more than it is to actually help people like me. Bunch of other awful stuff beyond that happened to.

Now that I've found my own shit out I'm still NullARFID and TransBED because that's what brings me comfort. So, Anon eat dirt, and OP I love you lots you're amazing.

Finally! We Can Talk About The Dissociation And Hallucination Post!

Yes, I made a post saying I share guides that teach people to dissociate and hallucinate, although the timestamp clearly says it was January, so it's still not at all related to the misgendering post from the November incident. (Unless I said something similar before that, which I'll admit is possible.)

Now that I've finally been publicly called on that old post in the syscourse tag with a screenshot and its full context, we can finally have the conversation I setup months ago.

I know people had been syscoursing about it for a while, but mostly on blogs that had me blocked, and it was confined to reblogs which made it difficult to respond. So disappointing. 😔

But yes, I made this post!

Yes, I used the D word. I also used the H word.

I'm surprised the hallucination part of this somehow got lost most of the time people referenced it. I was sure that would be the main thing people would fixate on.

But that is the post I made where I phrased beneficial and common tulpamancy practices in a way I expected would elicit a reaction from anyone browsing my blog looking for things to take out of context and attack me on. I really expected we'd be discussing this back on January 10th, not mid-September. But better late than never! 😁

All Switching Guides Teach Dissociation, All Imposition Guides Teach Hallucinations

Actually, I'll go further and say even basic mindvoice communication with your tulpa is inherently hallucinatory, even if it's not fully acoustic the way imposed voices are. (Most tulpamancers disagree with this view though, and only use the H word when discussing imposition.)

Many tulpamancy guides will actually use these words. Many imposition guides will refer to it as such when explaining what imposition is. Likewise, many switching guides will use the word "dissociate" when describing how to get the host to tune out so the tulpa can takeover the body.

This should be differentiated from the involuntary trauma dissociation seen in dissociative disorders or the types of hallucinations that manifest in Schizophrenia. But they are still dissociative and hallucinatory.

Ironically, my own guide doesn't use the D-word. Well, not that D-word. My guide uses the word "detachment." But make no mistake, detachment IS a type of dissociation.

So it absolutely is technically true that I "provided instructions on how to dissociate." And I will continue to do so completely unapologetically in the future.

(And I'd argue that headmate creation itself falls under compartmentalization type dissociation too, but that's a topic for another day.)

Dissociation and Hallucinations Aren't Inherently Bad Things

Yes, these can be bad in the context of mental illness. But there are many cases where they aren't. Many cultures and religions practice non-pathological forms of dissociation and hallucinations. Whether through mental training or through use of drugs.

In fact, many religions that do similar practices report positive mental health benefits as a result, and psychological studies conducted into them refer to them as hallucinatory or dissociative practices.

Despite the stigma, these are not bad words.

These ARE the Tulpamancy Practices

The thing is, these are basic, common tulpamancy practices. Practically every member of the tulpamancy community is aware of them and of what they are. And they, along with tulpamancy itself, are generally associated with positive mental health benefits like the religions that conduct similar practices.

These sorts of practices are what the tulpa community was built on. We have a wealth of guides dedicated to honing these skills. We don't use the scary words (dissociation/hallucination) much in day-to-day use, but we don't exactly hide what these practices are either.

Recently, there has been a faction of so-called neutrals (who spend most of their time spreading anti-endo content) pushing for the tulpamancy community to change its terms. Especially with the rise of "pro tulpa, anti-tulpa terminology" as a label for those who claim to support the tulpamancy "practice" but not the term.

Personally, I feel and have always felt that much of this was in bad faith.

That most people who claim to support the practices but not the term will turn on the practices too the moment you talk about what they actually are.

Supporting Tulpamancy/Paromancy/Whatever Alternative You Make Up Is Supporting Practices That Involve Dissociation. That Involve Hallucinations. And Yes, Will Likely Permanently Change The Brain of the Practitioners Over Time.

If anyone honestly claims to support the practices but not the term, then I want to make certain they know exactly what they're supporting.

If the concept of me sharing guides that teach people how to dissociate (for switching) and hallucinate (for imposition) scares you so badly, then you don't support tulpamancy practices and any claims you ever would be fine with tulpamancy if we used a different name were lies.

And you're not safe for, not just tulpamancers, but also the other religious and spiritual groups that use similar dissociative and hallucinatory practices to the benefit of their practitioners.

It's not just a hesitation to diagnose systems with DID because of the wave of so-called "fakers".

Over the past year or two, we've seen several threads in medical forums - nursing forums, nursing and medical subreddits - about places having certain protocols in place for people who come in to the hospital and who claim to be a system. These protocols involve not treating or diagnosing these systems properly because "if they're faking DID, they're faking their symptoms that led them to the hospital".

It's shameful. And it's going to get systems killed from medical neglect.

We Crew don't even work in healthcare anymore and we're embarrassed on behalf of those nursing professionals, embarrassed to share the same profession.

Yes, it's possible that some people coming in to the ER are "magnifying" their symptoms in order to get treatment . That doesn't mean their symptoms are imaginary. And it's not a problem unique to systems. It's something a LOT of chronic illness sufferers do - we're so used to a degree of pain and problems that when that pain and those problems get worse, we don't LOOK sick enough to be treated like we are actually as sick as we are, so we have to "act sick" in order to get treated properly.

And medical neglect of systems on the basis that they're systems is HORRIFIC and, unfortunately, widespread. And there's not much we can do about it except advocate, advocate, advocate.

Wow. I didn't realize. That's terrifying.

The oppressive psychiatric system also denies people both psychiatric and bodily autonomy. Like even ignoring every other part of this anon, psychiatry is a system BUILT on restricting the autonomy of marginalized people, and sysmedicalism is actually an integral and foundational cornerstone to that.

Quite frankly, if you came out as trans after transmedicalism had started to decline, transmedicalism won't necessarily have harmed you as much. I'm pangenderfluid and can honestly say the extent of the harm transmedicalism did to me was just to make me question exactly what transition measures I wanted a little longer than I otherwise would have, and maybe make me less aware initially of my more obscure genders. There might be more I haven't unpacked, but I came out well after transmedicalism had started to fade into obscurity.

Sysmedicalism, on the other hand, is still on an upward climb. I am one of those DID systems that doesn't feel safe in DID spaces. I have been invalidated, harassed, bullied, fakeclaimed, and harmed to the point that it is one of my sources of complex trauma - as in ongoing severe trauma over a significant length of time to the same extent as my neglect and abuse in infancy or my later severe emotional abuse in adulthood. The only other trauma that has come close is a similar ongoing experience with transintermisic people who deny the existence of transandrophobia and exorsexism.

As for this:

Sysmeds are the result of an actively ableist ideology that harms all psych survivors but especially systems due to its inherent pluralmisia. That ideology is based on the idea of "ableist singlets romanticizing and fetishizing a trauma based disorder and taking resources away from real systems just for the sake of seeking attention".

Sysmeds absolutely force systems to jump through extra hoops for medical care - both sysmedicalist psychiatric professionals and physical medical professionals as mentioned above. As well as that, they also actively discouraging systems in more social settings from seeking therapeutic care - both for disordered symptoms and for normal interpersonal relationship and life struggles that singlets also share and benefit from help with.

Sysmeds ARE what gives ME a strong fear of the IRL disordered and traumagenic system community. It was a sysmed IRL that fakeclaimed me so hard that they delayed our realization and worsened amnesia and barriers and communication to the point we still haven't recovered to the extent we were before (which was not great, but not as bad).

Just because you ignore or refuse to listen to people who have been harmed by sysmeds to a far worse extent than you were, anon, doesn't make you right. And you say you're "pro-endo", not endo yourself. Consider that if you are a disordered traumagenic system, the reason they haven't harmed you to that extent is because you are, to them, "the right" kind of system. In terms of being targeted by sysmeds specifically, you have privilege.

Just like binary gender conforming trans people were hurt less by transmedicalism, traumagenic disordered systems are hurt less by sysmedicalism. Not "not hurt at all", but less.

We're mixed origin traumaendo and have still been harmed to the point of complex trauma, and we know there's STILL endos, tulpas, soulbonders, and other systems that have been hurt worse than us by sysmeds.

Listen to the people that use that term about why they use it, instead of imposing your own experiences, which are not universal, as a reason the term is "harmful". Yours would be a weak argument if it was even applicable to most of the plural community in the first place, but it's inaccurate and wrong to boot. Stop ignoring the majority of the harm done by sysmeds.

Quite possibly, you also need to stop erasing it just because you think non-traumagenic and nondisordered systems are a more acceptable target for pluralmisia, just like the trans community erases the harm done to trans men because they're "privileged men". I don't know for sure that that's occuring, I've just seen it as a common attitude even among pro-endos who haven't fully unpacked their pluralmisia and endomisia.

Remember too that while trauma should not be a requirement for being treated with basic decency and respect, many endogenic and nondisordered systems DO in fact have trauma, it simply did not cause their system to form nor affect their system in distressing ways or cause them to become dysfunctional. Remember that sysmeds also attack endogenic disordered systems and traumagenic nondisordered systems (usually ones that have successfully achieved functional multiplicity). Remember that harassment, bullying, and fakeclaiming are themselves a source of trauma as well.

I'd like to end with "and then take your 'sysmed is a transphobic term' and shove it up your ass" but I think that would undercut my message and I'm trying to remind myself that people can be better. I'd rather my addition to the post help anon really think about some things and address some of their own internalized bigotry than just rant for my own benefit. (Sometimes in the face of complete assholes, ranting is cathartic, but I'd like to believe anon isn't one.)

So I'll just say: do better. Please. You are absolutely hurting people by policing accurate and helpful language for a very serious form of bigotry and abuse in the plural community, and ignoring that sysmedicalism IS as harmful as transmedicalism to the majority of the systems actually primarily affected by it.

Especially when you are using the very serious accusation that the word itself is transphobically bigoted when it was coined by trans systems specifically noticing the parallels in ideology, just because "this kind of bigotry isn't as harmful so it using the same root word somehow takes away from discussions of transphobia". That has never been a good argument, nor has it almost ever even been accurate to the actual experiences of people affected by said forms of bigotry. Not for transandrophobia/transmisandry being "transmisogynistic", not for "sysmed" being transphobic, and not for any other terms.