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I love the Jedi Temple. It must have been breathtaking, beautiful, jaw-droppingly gorgeous- the Jedi Temple must have been everything. A little taste of paradise, hidden in plain sight, the beauty of a thousand dreams nestled in the hearts of the Jedi. It was a home, a school, a place to be safe, to be whole.

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Hot Take:  If we were meant to see the Jedi as cold, unfeeling, and sterile, we would not have have seen their home framed in warm golds and peaceful pan shots and awe-inspiring art literally almost everywhere:

If we had been meant to see them as cold and unfeeling, Star Wars would not have been coy about it. STAR WARS KNOWS HOW TO SHOW US “CLEAN” AND “COLD AND UNFEELING” AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY AREN’T SHY ABOUT IT:

These two things are shown incredibly differently.  Kamino is shown in bright, sterilized white.  It feels cold just looking at it. In contrast, the Jedi are shown in these gorgeously warm colors, we see their great tree, we see their beautiful mural on the ceiling, we see Jedi walking together just to chat, we see children being absolutely adorable as they cluster around and Yoda teasing Obi-Wan while praising the wonderful minds of the children, we see the Jedi mourning their fallen brothers and sisters, we see warmth in them. If Star Wars wanted us to think they were cold, uncaring assholes, THEY KNEW HOW TO DO IT.  WE SEE THAT WITH KAMINO BEING RIGHT THERE.

Star Wars is one of the most overt pieces of media I’ve seen when it comes to landscapes and character designs and costuming being used as physical symbolism of good and evil. The villains wear black and have blood red swords,they are associated with metal and mechanization and minimalism and stream lined technology. We see the inside of the Death Star and Vader in a New Hope,we see the white plastoid armor of the stormtroopers. There’s a reason Luke is in all black for his finale fight,to make the audience absolutely question where his allegiances lie. Anakin’s steps to the dark side are easily marked with his physical appearance,first a robotic hand,then a scar,it’s in the color palet of his slowly darkening clothing,it’s in the color schemes chosen for his shots in Revenge of the Sith.

The art and architecture and backgrounds are exactly the same. They tell stories just as much as the dialogue. Just look at the grandiose scale of the temple,at the classical schools of architecture being drawn on. The designers for sets like this know how to utilize cultural shorthands for audiences to make unconscious associations. Those columns are Grecian and those arches are Gothic,the white statues and the mural ceilings,these are all hallmarks of great cultures westerners look to as pillars of civilization and society and art and learning.

They are calling on the cultural memory of the Greeks and the Romans,of the Renaissance and of cathedrals and great libraries. The artwork and the training rooms call to Eastern schools of learning and everywhere you look the color palettes are warm and honeyed and golden. The Jedi wear browns and creams and textured layers. These scenes are always so well lit because just look at all the towering windows letting in so much light. More than anything we are shown symbols of art and culture and learning,always learning with the Jedi.

I know that the Room of a Thousand Fountains is not something shown in the films and so it is a little less accessible,but the fact that one of the core elements of the temple is a towering greenhouse of waterfalls and plants is just the cherry on top to show that the Jedi are anything but cold and unfeeling.

They value warmth and life and growth,both spiritually and intellectually. The Jedi’s color schemes are the very archetype of this because again it reaches to cultural shorthands of telling an audience a story. Their colors are blue and green and golden browns,colors that we as human beings,even though this story is set in space and an entire other world,can draw on and associate with home.

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Color plays an extremely important part. The bad guys exist mostly in a black and white world; the good guys live in an organic world of browns and greens. Philosophically the bad guys live in an absolute world of black and white, where the good guys live in a more naturally nuanced world.- George Lucas, the Making of ROTJ

Excellent additions!

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Jedi Temple and Jedi Art

Inside, the Temple was no different. This was a place of contemplation, a place whose design invited the mind to wander and to explore, a place whose lines themselves asked for interpretation. Art was as much a part of what it was to be a Jedi Knight as was warrior training. Many of the Jedi, past and present, considered art to be a conscious link to the mysteries of the Force, and so the sculptures and portraits that lined every hall were more than mere replicas—they were artistic interpretations of the great Jedi they represented, saying in form alone what the depicted Masters might speak in words.

- The Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones novelization by R. A. Salvatore

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Time to bring back feels about jedi after RotS

The survivor padawans that we know about are Cal, Kanan and Ahsoka. Out of those three they dont show up later after empire is gone. They havent finished their training and its been so long hiding their culture.

Ezra - lost.

Luke? Not complete training either.

By the time of mandalorian they are a myth.

This is not counting everything that was destroyed and propaganda'd by the empire and sith.

So I just want ppl to find things that remained about jedi. By obi wan writing/recording anything and everything he could remember about jedi (and clones as well bc no one else will). He is a jedi master that dealt with times before sith and after sith were revealed.

Maybe have more things of the force like that recorder flower from pokemon and the mystery of mew.

I just want things to be found and remembered of jedi for the 'new' jedi that havent had an entire temple of force sensitive with a culture that can all understand you and your powers.

It would also be interesting if Din's covert was able to find some jedi things as well bc they have also been erased by the empire.

Feel free to add what you would want of jedi to be found:

Jedi being found family and just all members loving each other, having fun

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Based on @blackkatmagic

Jedi can end up anywhere and may be out of contact for a long time. So there are times when the temple jedi don't know if they are alive or dead. Things happen so if a Jedi isn't in contact or seen for a while they say they joined the force. Unofficially of course. Only when body or proof is when they are declared dead.

All this so I can make a joke about how sometimes Jedi can still hear the voices of those that joined the force only for that person to pop up and tell them to stop telling everyone they are dead.

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Have you seen some posts recently about the current trend of hyping up the Mandolorion culture as this all-inclusive family-focused culture with no downsides or flaws. While shitting all over the Jedi for 'stealing kids' and 'forcing them not contact their families'? Even if not, can you share your thoughts about this, especailly the Mando culture? I'm pretty sure you've done quite a few posts already talking about how Jedi don't kidnap children and force them to never talk to their parents.

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I’ve actually been thinking about this for awhile, largely through the lens of the bad faith interpretations I’ve been thinking of while reading Empire’s End or watching The Mandalorian and how easy it would be to make a case against the characters and cultures that we SW fans love.  (Hence the post from the other day, I’d been turning that over in my head for awhile.)I mean, Din is literally adopted by DEATH WATCH, you know, the group who wants to bring violence and fighting back to Mandalore.  He literally says he was raised in the Fighting Corps.

I don’t actually want to shit on Mandalorian culture, because I’m not sure we know enough about what that means for Din, what it means for him to never be able to show his face or see anyone else’s face, if that damaged him further or brought him comfort, what kind of guardians he had to help him through the trauma of seeing his parents being lost (did Death Watch have trauma counselors?  ANY KIND OF MENTAL HEALTH ASSISTANCE AT ALL??? or just “here’s a blaster, go shoot some things” as a way to help him “deal” with his trauma?).But I do think it’s interesting to compare it to the Jedi, where we explicitly see that the trend of their adopting children that come from really shitty circumstances, we explicitly see that training them focuses on the mind and understanding of self just as much as physical training, we explicitly see that they build a Temple so that they can protect their children and give them a safe, serene place to call home, a place of peace and security.  We see them explicitly teaching their children how to handle the mental onslaught that comes with being psychic in a galaxy like the GFFA.It’s interesting because I think you can draw a lot of parallels between two cultures who were (presumably) genocided nearly out of existence, who have religious beliefs that are NOT the dominant belief in the galaxy, but are sacred to them, who have a strong history of adoption of children in dangerous circumstances.And I can see how some bad faith arguments can come out of this–Din was raised in the Fighting Corps, it’s not exactly a huge leap to seeing how that could be super fucked up and damaging for a traumatized kid–and who gets the empathy in fandom and who doesn’t.  Who gets understanding and respect for their religion/culture and who doesn’t.  Especially when we have so very little re: canon on both of them, it often comes down to the things we assume must have happened, rather than what the cultures actually do or say.(Fans are and absolutely should be allowed their reactions and interpretations, regardless of how much we agree or disagree with them, I mean that with all sincerity.  I want to be as careful as I can to step around the idea that people who criticize the Jedi but not the Mandalorians are Doing It Wrong, because they’re not!  That’s not what this is about.  I mean, hell, also fandom isn’t a monolith, I can’t say “all Mandalorian fans are Jedi haters” because that’s almost guaranteed to not be true and I can’t speak for the reasons why someone likes/dislikes something for anyone but myself!)And that’s an interesting exercise to look at within myself–who gets my sympathy and who gets my disdain?  And why do I give that to either one?  How can I look at this fictional group of people and see them in a more positive or more negative light than I usually do?  How does looking at my extending good faith or bad faith arguments through a more distant lens affect my feelings towards those fictional groups?  Do I have more/less sympathy than before?It makes me feel like my understanding of the various elements at play in Star Wars is more satisfying for me, when I do so.  And looking at the other culture through the lens of my sympathy for the first one makes me feel a lot more AWWW YOU’RE GIVING ME FEELINGS about it, too!

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Master and Apprentice | by Claudia Gray ME AFTER READING ABOUT THE JEDI TEMPLE:

SOME THINGS WE’VE LEARNED FROM DOOKU: JEDI LOST ABOUT THE JEDI AND THE TEMPLE:

  •      Dooku mentions that they have “levitation classes” in the temple.  Later, he mentions they have FORCE SCULPTING CLASSESMaster and Apprentice talked about younglings poring over a historical holo, probably for a class project, Qui-Gon mentions to Dooku that he studied one of the prophecies for a class project as well and he’s doing a “report on the different schools of theosophy a century ago“ that he picked the subject on himself.      So, group classes are definitely a thing, but it’s interesting to note that canon is showing us there are history-type classes and Force skill classes, but also THERE ARE ART CLASSES.  I mean, it makes sense, their entire temple is full of art pretty much all over the place, in designs and murals and statues every five feet, but GOD I’D LOVE TO SEE A FORCE SCULPTURE CLASS, I BET IT’S SUPER NERDY AND SUPER COOL.
  •      Dooku says the Great Tree is rumored to have been originally from the first Jedi Temple on Ossus.  Interesting that Ahch-To seems to be where the Jedi Order first originated from themselves, but their first temple was on Ossus instead?  Or maybe Ahch-To has been lost to time and they don’t know it exists anymore?
  •      The voice in Asajj’s head, who can’t really be there, so take this possibly a memory or possibly as her view of the Jedi Temple, Ky says that the thing he missed most while on Rattatak was feeding the birds.  That he missed the beautiful birds that he used to feed on the training grounds, how they would flitter around the Great Tree, “so many colors, darting this way and that!”      THE JEDI TEMPLE IS A PEACEFUL DISNEY CASTLE:  CONFIRMED
  •      One of Dooku’s holos to his sister says that his day began like all his other days, they wake at dawn to meditate on the three pillars–the Force, Knowledge, and Self-Discipline–then they go to the refectory for breakfast, where he always sits next to Sifo-Dyas.
  •      Dooku also mentions that they went to the Room of a Thousand Fountains, led by Yoda, which means it’s been recanonized that it exists!
  •      Jedi initiates like to GOSSIP BY GLOWLIGHT AT NIGHT, over stuff like ~expelled Padawans~ that nobody’s sure if they ever really existed or what they actually did, but THAT IS AN ADORABLE IMAGE, also JEDI GOSSIPS CONFIRMED once again.
  •      Every year, they have a ceremonial lightsaber tournament and there are rumors that this year there are some Masters ready to take on Padawans.  Two of the Masters discuss previous years’ themes/settings, that sometimes they perform the ceremony in zero gravity or underwater and, one memorable year, IN A HURRICANE SETTING.     WHAT A BUNCH OF EXTRA FUCKIN’ NERDS, I LOVE THEM.

stormmodblog replied:

Ooooooh, so they can hold tournament in extreme settings? That sounds fun! And makes for remarkable training as well! I wonder how they manage it?

THIS REMINDS ME, there’s a scene in the audiodrama where Dooku also talks about working on small particles control (something like that) in a class and mentioned that they were shifting sand around with the Force iirc and I JUST HAD THE BEST WORST THOUGHT: CEREMONIAL.  LIGHTSABER. TOURNAMENT.  IN.  A.  SANDSTORM. Anakin is like 15 and spends the ENTIRE DURATION OF THE CEREMONIAL TOURANMENT just constantly 24/7 making this face:

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Original trilogy obi wan

I kind of hate a specific type of original trilogy fanfiction.

The one where people hate obi wan for lying and think anakin/Darth Vader is better. For not lying.

Like... Would YOU want to know that your father was an awesome warrior monk that turned dark, betrayed everyone and decided to kill an entire culture when the one who started the war and orchestrated a lot of deaths right there?

When he could have left the order? For his very secret (that obi wan knew anyway according to a deleted scene) marriage that he wasnt supposed to have due to his commitment to the order? Which again, he could have left.

Especially when he turns his men and the ones the Jedi have trusted for the war against them and themselves with no choice? Along with killing the ones in the temple which were most likely only the elderly, injured and young given that the others were in the field fighting for this war with said men that would have chips go off in their head?

And finally, the one he was doing it for, he decided it was a good idea to choke her when she was pregnant and not listen to her despite everything she loved him, and died by palps draining her life. Which defeated the purpose that anakin was trying to save her, yet didn't trust her or go to a med center.

But nope. Be mad at obi wan for lying to you about who your dad is, and now your going to side with him and the empire.

You know, not the guy who lost his culture, family, way of life and the men he had known to save the children of his apprentice who killed everyone and everything about his life and him just wanting to dissociate the person he raised and fought beside who became vader anf everything he did.

I mean, its not like he hasn't felt that way before. And padme and anakin didnt trust him, anakin trusted a SITH LORD over him.

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Weird star wars idea

So I found ancient spirits awaken by fallencellist and read the summary of Jedi and clones going to moraband (korriban) and thought of something.

Note that there may be some ideas of clone wars, star wars the old republic game, and red vs blue.

I'm imagining some Jedi and clones go to this planet from swtor but hasnt been in clone wars. It was an ancient battleground like swtor ish age. There is a 'box canyon' that has two temples on either side. One Jedi and the other Sith. I kind of want both Jedi and Sith characters from swtor to inhabit both temples. The Jedi knight is the one throwing insults and the Sith warrior, while the inquisitor and counselor watch and sometimes insult them creatively. And so subtle that they dont realize it until later.

So anyway the group from clone wars go and find these two groups. Only after thinking they are ghosts of the past trying to haunt them as they apparently haven't used their throut in a while due to them somehow overusing it with their screaming at the other side. And how they only have a temple there because the other side had that temple there. Also they try and tempt everyone there to go to their side. The Sith concentrate on the mandos as clearly they want to fight with them again.

They also tell stories of who and what they did. You know, because they want their story to get out.

I started this bc i wanted Jedi and clones to be scared of force ghosts until one finally gets their throght working like they overused it by screaming or dry throat. Somehow. Magic~ well force actually.

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So you have a Sith as chancellor

I was rereading Chancellor Obi wan Kenobi by @stonefreeak. And thought of something.

So in swtor

Well I thought one of the chancellors or senators was the Sith emperor but I cant find it... So i guess I put emperor vitate as a sneaky sith...

So I'm going to pretend he was possessing a chancellor back then. However, people blaimed the Jedi for not noticing. However with the Jedi not having anything to do with how the republic is won nor any voice, they counter argue. Especially bc there is an 'illegally', not with republic permission actually, on the Jedi homeworld of tython who they can't help their problems bc of the senate. And they live with them...

Similar to chancellor obi wan, they input something in the rules that are too numerous. If the people (senate and worlds) elect a sith into chancellorship (was going to be senator but palps is chancellor so...) Then the jedi, who know that if a Sith hides it is going to be hard to find... Will be able to take their order and leave the republic and domains of the Sith. This doesnt seem jedi like but the logic is if they like the sith, they can have their empire and leave the Jedi in peace as they dont want to help a Sith and the people who will most likely not care about Jedi anymore. Beacuse this was the old republic and they had a little more knowledge that wasn't lost AND were fighting Sith... They made it binding so the Sith couldn't do anything as they gathered the last force sensitive in the republic and known galaxy, then leave.

This happens during the clone wars when they realize the Sith was palpatine. So they went to the senate and activated this. (Also they take the clones that the Sith so generously gave them) and disabled then took out the chips.

The Jedi took their history, force sensitive they were able along with those that didnt want to be in an empire along with their men. They left known space to the 'unknown' which was still known back then.

So... Is this a good idea?

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Clones Deaging/Adoption

I was reading some drabbles where the clones de aged to around their live in the world, and that featured around Anakin and Padme hurryingly adopt the 501st. Also Plo Koon was way ahead of the game and adopted the Wolfpack a long time ago when they were still in accel age. That caused a big uproar.

Now I am just imagining the 212th wondering why Obi wan isn’t hurrying to adopt them, when he shows that he managed to adopt all past, present and future 212th with some paperwork he did in his downtime. He did this around the same time as Plo but didn’t get attention because it was either a busy day with the paperwork hidden or slow day when no one really checked what they were signing. So Obi wan was working with his children for about a couple years already. But if they want to see him actually write out each individual adoption, he now has time to do it and let them watch.

Also I bet that the clones on Coruscant are being adopted by the entire jedi order as they don’t officially have a jedi in charge, so Yoda adopts them. Because everyone else has their clones, he should have these younglings. 

Shaak Ti adopts all the ones on Kamino, and then either transfers or shares custody with the other jedi that receives the clones based on the younglings preference. 

Thing is though, Shaak Ti and Obi wan technically share all clones with each other and the jedi. Obi wan being the first jedi they met and Shaak being the one that stayed with them to train. 

Also wonder how 99 is.

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Jedi Friend Meta

I was thinking about how the jedi seem to outsiders, they are aloof with child stealing tendencies and mystic powers. This is not how the jedi are though, but because of dealing with people that just want secrets or ‘i banged a jedi’ or other things, they tend to have isolationist quirks. But what about those that actually help, not because of duty but other things, and they stay. They help jedi, and look beyond stupid rumors. What of those people? 

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From a conversation with @skymurdock because it really made me laugh.

darthluminescent Sometimes Obi-Wan starts to feel a little bad for Anakin, but then he thinks about that time how Anakin went on a three day no-sleep bender and led all the Jedi Temple droids in a revolt and wound up destroying an entire hangar in the process.

skymurdock Also the one time when he was a padawan that he used Artoo as a getaway vehicle to get to illegal podraces.   Imagine waking up to Artoo’s rocket boosters speeding past your window and then looking out and seeing a goddamn lanky-ass teenager screaming maniacally while hanging on to an astromech droid.  Take the laundry chutes like normal people, dammit.

darthluminescent Obi-Wan might have been able to tolerate it better, but Anakin was just.  SO BAD.  At sneaking in or out.  Obi-Wan was entirely insulted by how shit he was at it.   He would get stranded because he accidentally crashed his speeder into a wall and OBI-WAN COME PICK ME UP IT’S LATE AND I’M TIRED IT’D TAKE AN HOUR TO GET BACK VIA THE TRAIN instead of finding his own way home like any decent teenager sneaking out.   Anakin trips over the potted plant on his way out at like 12:30am.  Of for stars’ SAKE, Anakin, at least wait until you hear your Master go to bed and then half an hour later try to sneak out, not while he’s in the kitchen making tea that will take FIVE MINUTES and then he WILL SEE YOU.

skymurdock Fucking. Stubs his toe, shrieks, and then gets the hell out of the room,

darthluminescent At least when he finally manages to sneak out–and Obi-Wan has to very carefully look the other way to get him even that far–that time he accidentally crashes his speeder into one of the garbage pits and has to fight off like three of those giant garbage worms and fumbles to get out his comm unit and call Obi-Wan and shrieks HELP ME MASTER I CAN’T GET OUT OF HERE, it was at least pretty funny.  Obi-Wan may have stood at the lip of the garbage pit Anakin had fallen into and watched his apprentice try to climb his way out, the walls too steep to get any purchase on and too high for him to Force jump out of there.  Stood and watched for a good extra five or seven minutes.  He deserved to watch this.

skymurdock He always gets hauled back into the Temple, the few times he gets to sneak back in someone raises the alarm bc someone tripped over something valuable.  Turns out it’s just Anakin trying to sneak in via vents.

darthluminescent It’s embarrassing.  All the other Jedi Masters look at Obi-Wan like, “Aren’t you teaching this child ANYTHING?”  And he can only make a vague helpless gesture, because, honestly, he has TRIED.

skymurdock Windu keeps a stern face for the whole lecture and only when everyone has left, only THEN, does he break into a fit of laughter.  Best thing that has happened to him this week fuck yeah he’s going to tell Depa all about this when she wakes up.

darthluminescent Depa has heard ALL ABOUT Anakin Skywalker.  Mace absolutely abuses his position as Master of the Order to make Obi-Wan give him regular reports on Anakin’s antics and then hoards them like a dragon with treasure. Anakin thinks Master Windu hates him, but honestly it’s just that Mace is like I AM TIRED AND OVERWORKED AND JUGGLING ABOUT TEN THINGS AT ONCE TELL ME A HILARIOUS STORY ABOUT SKYWALKER BEING A DIPSHIT.

skymurdock Technically they are reports. Technically.   Really it’s just Obi-wan breaking out the vodka and bitching to Mace.

darthluminescent All that connection to the Force and this dumbass child can’t even sneak out of the Temple properly.  Obi-Wan is So Tired.

And then an addition from a conversation with @evaceratops evaceratops re: that conversation you posted: OKAY LISTEN THE JEDI WOULD TOTALLY TEACH THEIR KIDS HOW TO PROPERLY SNEAK OUT OF THE TEMPLE. (“The Temple’s security systems are very advanced, it’s fantastic stealth training!”) But Anakin wasn’t a youngling for long enough to learn properly, so he’s terrible at it, and thus Obi-wan becomes the unfortunate soul with a padawan who can’t even SNEAK OUT without Obi-wan’s assistance. darthluminescent That why I love this whole thing!  Anakin Skywalker is really, really talented in the Force, he can do SO MANY really skilled things! But stealth and precision are just beyond him most of the time. The Jedi are pretty okay with their teenagers sneaking out because it teaches them how to be stealthy and they trust their kids.  A Padawan sneaking out is a sign that they feel ready to take some steps out into the bigger world, as well as show that they’ve gained skills in stealth and that they know their environment. Anakin, on the other hand, is just ENTIRELY SHIT at it.  He has no patience to wait for the right moment or ability to be quiet about it.  He goes beyond where he’s really ready to go and crashes his speeder and then calls for help instead. Most Padawans sneak out and just sort of go out to the gardens at first.  Then maybe venture into the shopping district a bit. Anakin, no.  Anakin goes straight for the Underworld, crashes his speeder on the way there, and calls Obi-Wan to come pick him up. Obi-Wan sighs and tries not to look too impatient, but for stars’ sake, Anakin, you’re a JEDI, you should be able to find your way back without calling me.  You should know your limits better than this. Anakin doesn’t really take it as “you should be better at this” and instead feels like he’s not supposed to sneak out at ALL and never really asks for clarification and Obi-Wan, who was raised in the Temple, honestly has no idea that Anakin hasn’t picked up on it. evaceratops Bonus points if Anakin finds out, like, halfway through the war that Ahsoka’s been sneaking out to do whatever at least once every time they’re on Coruscant and he is SHOCKED anakin: ahsoka i can’t believe you’d break the rules /secretly/ like this, rather than out in the open like you should-“ ahsoka: uh i appreciate your pride in breaking the rules, skyguy, but, uh… what rules anakin: the rule against sneaking out! ahsoka: that’s… not a thing darthluminescent Anakin stomping over to Obi-Wan, WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL ME??? and Obi-Wan looks So Tired just remembering it. Obi-Wan says it was pretty obvious when I was CLEARLY STILL AWAKE and didn’t get up when you would sneak out of bed, it was only when you would SLAM THE DOOR SHUT BEHIND YOU that I had to get up and say something. Obi-Wan was TRYING to teach him to think and judge a situation for himself, to become more aware of his surroundings, to know his own limits.  If Anakin recalls, he got in trouble for getting CAUGHT, not for sneaking out. Anakin:  Wait, what? Obi-Wan:  When I gave you extra meditation time for it, it was when you came tripping in through THE FRONT DOOR, not when you managed to remember to climb back in through the air vents. Anakin:  I totally got in trouble when I came back through the vents!! Obi-Wan:  Anakin, you dropped a quarter ton steel grate into the middle of the Grand Hallway when you slammed it open with the Force.  You were NOT subtle. Anakin:  ….I cannot believe ANY of this. Obi-Wan, staring right at him:  You broke the statue of Master Valara in the middle of the foyer. Anakin:  Yeah, but still.

During 'curfew' ahsoka slips out and goes to clone barracks with some other jedi. They at psyched that they have successfully escaped. The troopers worry about it until they explain. However when she calls obi wan he just goes into a rant about how awful Anakin is at sneaking out and yet these younglings can so... Where did he go wrong.

Also what if the Jedi video every successful escape, to show the masters for bragging rights and a way to know who has left along with skill. In between anakins though is obi wans reports and Maces rants at this.

This has been left untouched by the clones and sith, so when Luke finds it he puts it in to play, forgetting that he brought news crew with him for recording history or something. It just has a beginning message about how the young ones growing into being confident of themselves. It goes to show Jedi sneaking out and there is commentary from some Jedi including their master if they have one and they just do a points system, rating the escape.

It is a competition among the jedi. They skip until there is obi wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker for luke to go through.

Qui gon is proud of his padawan being so sneaky.

When its anakins turns, obi wan just asks what he did wrong with Anakin always getting a 0 bc he sucks. He is not sneaky at all. Then skip to where Anakin calls obi wan to pick him up. Mace is all laughing bc Anakin is so bad. Ahsoka however gets great points and reviews bc she clearly inherited her skills from obi wan and not Anakin.

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From a conversation with @skymurdock because it really made me laugh.

darthluminescent Sometimes Obi-Wan starts to feel a little bad for Anakin, but then he thinks about that time how Anakin went on a three day no-sleep bender and led all the Jedi Temple droids in a revolt and wound up destroying an entire hangar in the process.

skymurdock Also the one time when he was a padawan that he used Artoo as a getaway vehicle to get to illegal podraces.   Imagine waking up to Artoo’s rocket boosters speeding past your window and then looking out and seeing a goddamn lanky-ass teenager screaming maniacally while hanging on to an astromech droid.  Take the laundry chutes like normal people, dammit.

darthluminescent Obi-Wan might have been able to tolerate it better, but Anakin was just.  SO BAD.  At sneaking in or out.  Obi-Wan was entirely insulted by how shit he was at it.   He would get stranded because he accidentally crashed his speeder into a wall and OBI-WAN COME PICK ME UP IT’S LATE AND I’M TIRED IT’D TAKE AN HOUR TO GET BACK VIA THE TRAIN instead of finding his own way home like any decent teenager sneaking out.   Anakin trips over the potted plant on his way out at like 12:30am.  Of for stars’ SAKE, Anakin, at least wait until you hear your Master go to bed and then half an hour later try to sneak out, not while he’s in the kitchen making tea that will take FIVE MINUTES and then he WILL SEE YOU.

skymurdock Fucking. Stubs his toe, shrieks, and then gets the hell out of the room,

darthluminescent At least when he finally manages to sneak out–and Obi-Wan has to very carefully look the other way to get him even that far–that time he accidentally crashes his speeder into one of the garbage pits and has to fight off like three of those giant garbage worms and fumbles to get out his comm unit and call Obi-Wan and shrieks HELP ME MASTER I CAN’T GET OUT OF HERE, it was at least pretty funny.  Obi-Wan may have stood at the lip of the garbage pit Anakin had fallen into and watched his apprentice try to climb his way out, the walls too steep to get any purchase on and too high for him to Force jump out of there.  Stood and watched for a good extra five or seven minutes.  He deserved to watch this.

skymurdock He always gets hauled back into the Temple, the few times he gets to sneak back in someone raises the alarm bc someone tripped over something valuable.  Turns out it’s just Anakin trying to sneak in via vents.

darthluminescent It’s embarrassing.  All the other Jedi Masters look at Obi-Wan like, “Aren’t you teaching this child ANYTHING?”  And he can only make a vague helpless gesture, because, honestly, he has TRIED.

skymurdock Windu keeps a stern face for the whole lecture and only when everyone has left, only THEN, does he break into a fit of laughter.  Best thing that has happened to him this week fuck yeah he’s going to tell Depa all about this when she wakes up.

darthluminescent Depa has heard ALL ABOUT Anakin Skywalker.  Mace absolutely abuses his position as Master of the Order to make Obi-Wan give him regular reports on Anakin’s antics and then hoards them like a dragon with treasure. Anakin thinks Master Windu hates him, but honestly it’s just that Mace is like I AM TIRED AND OVERWORKED AND JUGGLING ABOUT TEN THINGS AT ONCE TELL ME A HILARIOUS STORY ABOUT SKYWALKER BEING A DIPSHIT.

skymurdock Technically they are reports. Technically.   Really it’s just Obi-wan breaking out the vodka and bitching to Mace.

darthluminescent All that connection to the Force and this dumbass child can’t even sneak out of the Temple properly.  Obi-Wan is So Tired.

Like during the clone wars Anakin is injured or something and mace is there and in the open he has obi wan explain how Anakin tried escaping this time while showing his troops and 212 and 501st the ones when Anakin was still a padawan for laughs bc Anakin sucks at sneaking in and out.

He then says that at least obi wan was better than other padawans but Anakin has not learned anything. When ahsoka explains her ways of getting in and out she forgets about obi wan and windu for a moment until one says that they too used that way to sneak.

Literally everyone does it as a way of learning the temple and force but Anakin has nothing to show for it.

Depa Billaba also shows the manuscripts that she got from mace to kanan for future blackmail.

(If order 66 and rebels still happens, he 'accidently' puts the files on the projector in front of ahsoka, rex and the team. Ahsoka laughs and they compare ways that they snuck out of the temple, with everyone else staring.)

Also mace may have slipped obi wans ways of sneaking out of the temple to depa so now ahsoka and the rest see footage (why wouldn't there be security cams in every place for sneaking out?) of anakins lame ways and obi wans long suffering reports of how obvious it is, and maybe even qui gon about obi wan. Padawan obi wan going out with friends and actually being sneaky.

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A real good example of jedi and clone relationship from the jedi’s point of view.

Points out some things about the misconceptions of the jedi and plausible reasoning for their traditions, and how when they have given a lot, they receive nothing in return except what they have made on their own and how the clones are theirs. Finally they are given something in return.

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TINY!OBI-WAN AND THE RED MAN, PART VII

Summary: When an intruder with a red lightsaber invades the Temple creche, 6-year-old Obi-Wan Kenobi’s life is set on a new course. But taking a different fork on destiny’s path doesn’t necessarily alter your destination…

The room is empty.

No, wait, that’s not true – their prisoner is still in his cell…

“Dead,” Mace says grimly. “He appears to have taken his own life.”

“Or someone wanted us to think as much,” Qui-Gon murmurs, eyes scanning the crumpled figure. The dead man’s hands remain locked tight about his throat even in death.

But where is Obi-Wan?

“There’s something here,” Mace says. “It stinks of the Dark Side.” He nudges at a section of the duracrete floor with the toe of his boot.

Qui-Gon can’t see anything that distinguishes that section of the floor from any other – it’s the same color, and equally smooth and flat, seamlessly connected to the rest. But he trusts his friend.

Mace stretches out a hand, eyes narrowed in concentration, and pushes.

The floor cracks open right at the spot he had indicated, fault lines extending from it like a fractured web.

“Ready?” Mace asks, raising an eyebrow.

Normally, this is where Qui-Gon would tease his solemn friend, insisting that since the find was Mace’s, so too should be the first leap into the gaping abyss.

But with an Initiate’s (Obi-Wan’s) life on the line, Qui-Gon isn’t in the mood. So he merely jerks his head in reply and, lightsaber at the ready, steps into the black nothingness.

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