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Devil-O-Angel

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Random idea:

What if there was a possibility that, during the Clone Wars, the Republic could vote Palpatine out and replace him with a Jedi? Like, sort of by a really obscure, little known piece of legislation that technically counts the member of the Jedi Order - especially members of the High Council - as senators.

So Obi-Wan somehow finds himself elected Chancellor of the Republic and refuses to not be a General still. Though he changes the entire set-up of the war, simply because he’s a well-known Jedi to separatist worlds - some of which he’s been to personally before the war - and they trust him personally.

Dooku ends up losing a load of planets because “we know Jedi Kenobi well, he is trustworthy and now that he is Chancellor, we wish to return to the Republic” and has to either admit defeat or attempt an all-out attack on Obi-Wan. Or try and enact Order 66 somehow.

Though, since only the Chancellor ranks higher than the Jedi, and the Chancellor is also a Jedi, that’s pretty much impossible.

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stonefreeak

Tell me more *chin hands*

Actually, I’m just gonna go for it. Lol. As always, I’m incapable of being brief, even in a directly-into-tumblr-ficlet.

The Senate building is bustling with activity; the Senators are taking their places and talking amongst themselves already. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Mace Windu have been called to represent the Jedi Order.

Honestly. Obi-Wan isn’t quite sure why their presence was demanded. It’s not as if they can cast any votes. To have Jedi in the Senate occasionally certainly isn’t a bad idea, but to demand their presence for a specific Session is rare, if not unprecedented.

Obi-Wan is tired; the war has dragged on for far longer than he would have ever dreamed or hoped. The Jedi hardly take missions outside of leading troops into battles these days, and the fighting and distance from their ideals is taking their toll on the Order and all the Jedi in it. Several Jedi have already left, unable to cope.

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I just want fics where Obi-Wan doesnt have a beard in the clone wars and all the media with him in it gets a backlash of ‘YOURE LETTING A 16 YO BE A HIGH GENERAL??????’ And whenever they senate is all ‘omfg he’s not 16 Kenobi tell them ur not 16’ Obi-Wan, the little shit, just goes ‘🥺 they make a lot of teens and preteens fight here. It’s not my first war either 😔’ and somehow it all gets blamed on Palpatine and it really makes things mild when someone finds his dead body in his office. There were a lot of lightsaber scorches and even a few dozen knife wounds in his chest. They ruled it a suicide 😔 a tragedy.

But really I just want Obi-Wan lookin like a shiny while Anakin won’t stop asking him why he shaved the beard and the clones are all ‘HES OLD ENOUGH TO GROW A BEARD????’ And it’s. Amazing.

I wrote a thing....

This is beautiful and I love you thank you 🥺🥺🥺

😂😂 I love this and I think it’s funny but I also want at the end for Obi-Wan to grow his beard back if only to prove to the clones he can because they refuse to believe he’s older than 20

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Parts of The Great War That I Haven't Gotten to Yet But Still Want to Share Pt. 4(?)

For context: Cody just punched Anakin in the Resolute's hangar after seeing Obi-Wan in the medbay, Obi-Wan telling him some things while hopped up on pain meds, all after Kadavo.

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For a moment, everyone was too shocked to react as Skywalker went tumbling to the floor, which allowed Cody to get one more good punch in before shouting ensued and Helix and Fives dragged him off of him---Fives saying something about the Kaminoans and consequences and other things that Cody couldn't give less of a fuck about.

He struggled against them, gaining inches of ground even as they dug their feet into the metal floors.

He was gonna fucking kill Skywalker for ever daring to lay a hand on Obi-Wan.

The other 501st soldiers in the hangar looked panicked and confused---unsure of whether to protect Skywalker, help reign Cody in, or simply watch- (the wounds from Umbara still too fresh for them to be sure if they can trust their "general").

The one thing that got through Cody's head was Helix's voice.

"He asked you not to do this."

Of course Cody knew who he was talking about.

"You told me that he asked you to never commit violence in his name. Believe me, I understand how you feel, I heard it all too, I want to fucking kill him, but do you really think Obi-Wan would want this?"

And Cody stopped struggling, breaths coming hard and every muscle in his body wound up like a pressure mine.

Fuck, he wanted to keep going, he wanted to rip Skywalker's fucking face off-

But...it wasn't what Obi-Wan would've wanted.

So he took a step back, Helix and Fives hesitantly releasing their hold on him. He turned around to leave, careful to keep his hands unclenched so that he didn't give in to the urge to hit him again, but before he left, he turned his head back slightly to look Skywalker in the eye.

"If you ever fucking touch him again, I will not stop. Understand?"

Skywalker glared at him, shadows from the surrounding ships falling over him---casting darkness all across his face.

"I thought you were loyal to the Jedi," He said through gritted teeth and a bloody mouth, mocking the emblem that stood proud on Cody's shoulder---an emblem that almost all of the clones wore. An emblem that was starkly missing from the 501st's armor, not because of their own choice, but because of Skywalker's disdain for the meaning behind it.

"You're no Jedi," Cody spat.

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STAR WARS:  THE CLONE WARS:  OBI-WAN KENOBI:

Obi-Wan Kenobi is truly a great Jedi who finds himself at the heart of galactic turmoil as the Republic unravels and finally collapses.  Although cautious by nature, Kenobi has a healthy independent streak and truly formidable lightsaber skills.
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Obi-Wan: *holding onto the bars of a caged medical room, throwing a tantrum to end all tantrums, threatening to end full lineages* -SO LET ME OUT OF THIS BLASTED CAGE BEFORE I BLOW IT UP IM HUNGRY AND WILL END EVERYONE TO GET A CHEESEBURGER-
Master Che: *threateningly pulling out a sedative* Kenobi, I really don’t wanna have to use this-
Obi-Wan: *bursts out into tears and throws himself to the ground out of reach so she’ll have to open the cage if she wants to* BEING MEAN TO PRISONERS IS ANIMAL CRUELTY-
Bant: Obi, chill, it’s just a cold. You’re just hangry, lunch is on it’s way. We can’t let you spread a cold strain half the temple isn’t vaccinated for.
Obi-Wan: *looking up at her with sad pathetic abused baby tooka eyes* Bant, please, they aren’t being nice, they’ve threatened to put me down-
Che: He’s delirious, Bant, I threatened to sedate him if and only if he couldn’t calm himself.
Obi-Wan: And now they’re starving me because I called Master Dooku an overly important blowhard-
Che: ?? When did you do that???
Obi-Wan: And I’m not being allowed communications or entertainment-
Bant: Obi, you texted me two minutes ago.
Obi-Wan: MY VISION IS BLURRY I CANT SEE WHAT IM TYPING I NEED A SCRIBE
Bant: *deep sigh, sees Qui-Gon coming down the hallway with a take out container from Dex’s and Obi-Wan’s favorite storybook* Oh look, your master brought you lunch! *makes a hasty retreat because no one’s paying her to entertain her brother with a 104.7 degree fever*
Qui-Gon: *slides the takeout box through the slot on the floor, moves to sit next to a weepy Obi-Wan who shoves a handful of fries in his mouth, still crying* Tough day, buddy?
Obi-Wan: *sniffs* Master Che hits me when you’re not looking.
Che: *deep sigh and quietly notes down ‘chronic liar when he has a fever’ on Obi-Wan’s patient chart*
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Debunking the "The Jedi Are Evil" Theory Made by The Film Theorists PT 2

Point 2 - That Luke was Right in the Sequels

In the Sequels, Luke says this:

"Now that they're extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified...but if you strip away the myth and look at their deeds, the legacy of the Jedi is failure, hypocrisy, hubris."

And, after bringing this quote up, Matthew says this:

"While this kind of tea spill coming from Luke was considered pretty sacrilegious, both by other characters as well as the audience, I think that Luke has a point if you examine the movies with a little more scrutiny. His criticisms aren't exactly unfounded."

Now, first of all, what Luke is saying here cannot be trusted as "fact" or anything to go off of, mainly because of two reasons.

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1. He's trying to convince Rey not to be a Jedi or, at the very least, to not make him train her (which is pretty much the same thing), and at this point in time he pretty clearly hates himself and blames himself for the state of the galaxy. He's been stewing in his rocky hideaway for who knows how long, with nothing but the ocean and his own self-loathing to keep him company.

He's saying this here so that Rey will give up and not make him train her, because he's scared of making the same mistakes he did with Kylo Ren and fucking up the galaxy even more (we see a similar thing with Obi-Wan in the Kenobi show, where he refuses to save Leia at first because he's scared of not being able to save her--like he wasn't able to "save" Anakin).

And the traits, the "legacy," he's assigning the Jedi...isn't actually the legacy of the Jedi. It's him assigning what he believes to be his own legacy to the Jedi as a whole, because it's easier for him to deal with his own failure that way.

and 2. Luke is framed as being wrong for saying this. None of the other characters agree with him, eventually he does end up training Rey, and eventually he lets go of his pain and fair and grief and "becomes a Jedi again" and faces his "legacy of failure"--Kylo Ren.

It's obvious that the movies are clearly making him out to be wrong when he says those things, you don't need to have a neon sign posted above his head that says "WRONG" in order to see it. So taking his words at face-value is just trying to take a bad-faith reading of the Jedi--rather than the "objective scrutiny" that Matthew is purportedly putting the Jedi up to in this theory.

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I would also like to argue that Luke's only real knowledge of the Prequel Era Jedi and their actions/beliefs/traditions/etc. is...lacking, to say the least.

The Empire literally destroyed and desecrated every Jedi Temple that they could find, they wiped out all the information they could about the Jedi, and then spread anti-Jedi propaganda through the galaxy for years. Not to mention that, by this point, pretty much every Prequel Era Jedi is dead.

There's no one around to really tell Luke about the Jedi's actions or culture and what little information he might've been able to dig up probably wouldn't have amounted to much. So, when Luke says this, it can only really be taken as a commentary on the Post-Prequel Era Jedi, because he doesn't know enough about the Prequel Era Jedi to make any criticisms.

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Matthew then says:

"There are certainly examples of the Jedi doing some pretty unsportsmanlike things to innocent victims throughout the old movies, like manipulating-" [plays a video cut of Obi-Wan in ANH, mind-tricking the stormtroopers into thinking that R2 and 3PO "aren't the droids they're looking for"]

This example is pretty easy to debunk, because Matthew leaves out the context.

Obi-Wan has to do this.

Because let's look at what would probably happen if he didn't:

1. He and Luke would be arrested and turned in to the Empire, probably Vader, and Vader would immediately recognize Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan would get murdered.

2. Vader would realize Luke was his son and probably try to indoctrinate him into an Imperial way of thinking, and Palpatine/Vader would probably have Luke "trained" (read: tortured) into becoming an Inquisitor.

and 3. The droids would probably either be memory wiped or destroyed, therefore destroying the plans for the Death Star that the Rebellion needed to destroy it--and the Death Star wouldn't be able to be destroyed, more planets and people would probably be killed.

Aside from the thing with the Death Star plans, Obi-Wan probably knows that that's what's gonna happen--and, if the Empire is looking for the droids, then it's pretty obvious that the droids are important to the Rebellion. So it wouldn't be a stretch to say that Obi-Wan probably understands that the Rebellion would be hurt by their loss.

Not to mention that stormtroopers aren't "innocent victims."

They actively sign up to work for the Empire and take part in the oppression of countless peoples and worlds. And It's not like Obi-Wan pulled aside a random stormtrooper just so he could mind-fuck him, they were approached by the troopers first and he reacted defensively. He didn't even make them do anything bad, he just told them "these aren't the droids you're looking for" and had them go on their way.

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Matthew's quote, continued:

"-stealing spaceships and crashing them-" [cut to a video clip of Obi-Wan and Anakin in RotS, crashing the Separatist vessel they escaped on after rescuing the Chancellor]

Once again, this is pretty easy to debunk because, again, Matthew leaves out the context.

The Separatists literally kidnapped the Chancellor of the Republic and the Jedi had to rescue him. They had to steal the ship to escape or be captured, and likely executed, by the Separatists--therefore allowing the Separatists (who are literally enslaving and oppressing countless other systems and run by a fucking fascist dictator) to win the war and take over the rest of the galaxy.

Once again, the Jedi were acting defensively.

And I feel like, all things considered, the Jedi stealing that Separatist ship, to escape from a situation the Separatists caused, in order to keep the galaxy from falling into the hands of an oppressive dictatorship and attempt to stay alive...is a pretty damn reasonable decision, don't you think?

And, just for added context, the ship was literally falling apart when they crashed it. They didn't crash it on purpose, it was an emergency landing. If you're gonna say the Jedi are bad for "crashing" the ship, you may as well get mad at every pilot who ever initiated an emergency landing because it's literally the same thing--and if we're putting the Jedi up to "objective scrutiny" then there shouldn't be any double standards.

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Matthew's quote, continued:

"-or just outright lying about their own powers-" [cut to a video clip of Mace and Yoda talking, where Mace says they should tell the Senate their ability to use the Force is diminished and Yoda saying they shouldn't because it will only multiply their adversaries]

Here the Jedi weren't lying, like...at all.

No one was asking them about their ability to use the Force, so they couldn't be lying. They were withholding information, information that the Senate--as non-Jedi--had no right to know about unless it would actively affect the Republic. Which, again, at this point in time it wouldn't.

But, fine, let's just pretend that the Jedi were lying...

...they were lying for good reason.

Yoda is right here. Even if we ignore the fact that Yoda is a stand-in for GL and what he says is quite literally the canon truth (since he's the creator), the Senate is already pretty at odds with the Jedi, which we see later in AotC when Palpatine and the Senate pretty much strong-arm the Jedi into accepting the role of Generals in the war, despite being told point blank by Mace Windu that they're peace keepers and not soldiers. Do you really think the Senate (read: Palpatine) wouldn't have used this information against the Jedi?

And, are you completely ignoring the fact that Mace is literally saying that they should tell the Senate and Yoda is disagreeing with him?

Obviously Yoda's take on what they should or shouldn't tell the Senate isn't something that the entire Order believes--it's just his opinion on what they should do.

You can't say that "the Jedi are liars" and then play a clip that literally debunks that by having two Jedi disagreeing with each other about whether or not to tell the truth.

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Okay, but consider: feral nerd padawan Obi-Wan.

Devours 500 page novels in under two days. Trying to learn seven languages at once. Knows the native mythology of at least eighteen different planets. Decided to run a classical conditioning experiment on Quinlan. Has several small jars turned terrariums with insects that he wants to observe. Has a certification in space excel and pretends to gripe about getting assigned to the rotating data entry assignments with Madam Nu to fit in but secretly enjoys it. Regularly falls asleep in the archives. Geeks out over the native fauna of planets that are actively trying to kill him (Qui-gon worries sometimes). Has read every encyclopedia and Jedi history text in the archives. Keeps ridiculously meticulous to-do lists just because he enjoys being able to check things off of them. Tightly wound ball of organized chaos.

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