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Why is it always the Jedi who are the repressed person when up against the clone characters?

Why isn't the CLONES who struggle with admitting to their own emotions, who can't even IDENTIFY what they feel and will deny it even if they can? Why isn't the CLONES who struggle with appropriately taking care of themselves with things like medical care and sleeping and eating more often? Why isn't the CLONES who have the self preservation instincts of a particularly creative lemming?

And the JEDI who have to slowly teach them how to take care of themselves? The JEDI who make sure they remember to eat and sleep better and go to medical when it's serious? The JEDI who are constantly having to remind the clones not to waste their lives blindly because they're NOT actually expendable or replaceable? The JEDI who help them understand what they're feeling when the clones don't understand it themselves, who show them what these emotions are and how to regulate them so that they don't feel so out of control of themselves all the time?

Why is it always the Jedi, who are educated in things like mental health since childhood and raised in a supportive and loving community that takes care of each other, who are treated like children all the time, while the clones, who were sheltered in an isolated community that taught them nothing beyond what they'd need to fight a war and raised by people who consider them no better than machines made of flesh, are treated like they somehow spontaneously learned how to be mentally healthy adults from the air and need to teach this to the poor repressed Jedi who can't figure out anything for themselves.

Just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense in context to me.

I like the idea of Kanan at some point opening up to Rex about the clones he'd known in Depa's battalion. He's mourned Depa and the Jedi, he's learned the truth about the chips, he's started to build a better relationship with Rex, but he's never truly allowed himself to mourn the men he'd considered friends and lost during Order 66.

Rex didn't know them, of course, the clones wouldn't all have known each other or anything, but it doesn't really matter. He listens as Kanan talks about Grey, the commander who took him under his wing, or Styles, the captain who liked to tease him. Kanan talks about how different the four survivors of Depa's original battalion had been from the rest of the men, the way that history with each other had defined a part of their relationship to each other that just wasn't there with the rest of the battalion, but how protective they were of the men who'd joined afterwards (including Kanan himself).

Kanan expresses his regret that he never realized the truth or went back to try to find any of the men, and Rex assures him that this would have been a death sentence and not a single one of those men would've wanted him to make that sacrifice for them any more than Depa would've. His men couldn't tell him to run the way Depa did, but if they could've spoken to him, that's what they'd have told him, to run and not look back. Rex says that while he hadn't known Kanan's battalion, he had met other clones who'd ended up with younger padawan commanders and the one thing all of them (including Rex) were able to agree on was how proud they'd been of the padawans and how lucky they all felt to be able to serve alongside them. So he KNOWS Kanan's men loved him and would've wanted him to be safe, even if it meant leaving them behind.

And Kanan finally allows himself to shed tears for his men, for the loss of the friends he'd only just started to get to know. Rex holds him and stays until Kanan cries himself to sleep on Rex's shoulder and that's how Hera finds them hours later.

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May the 4th Be With You!!!

Celebrating Clones✨

for 2023!

Can you name them all?

(from The Clone Wars, The Bad Batch, Republic Commando, Live Action, More✨)

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Version 2: Names Labeled!

Hope this helps with identifying them!

I've also listed each clone's primary media. These may not be the *only* things they appear in, but they're what I consider to be their main source material! These include but are not limited to live action films, the Clone Wars, the Bad Batch, and various Legends.

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Last version of this art I swear!

Here are the various groupings of clones in my May 4th clones art.

Everyone was arranged very intentionally, fitting into at least one or more groups with the others around them! Some of these groups were shared in the WIPs, but i thought it would be need to have a final visual as well.

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Something very dear to my heart is the 501st thinking they're the badass rebel loose canons who do all the reckless crazy shit compared to the straight-laced, spick and span 212th who are extremely formal and put-together by comparison...

...until they start running joint campaigns and the 501st realize that the 212th are a disciplined, orderly, well-mannered battalion of ABSOLUTE FUCKING LUNATICS

That episode where 212th dog piled Grevious

Wow so this episode REALLY hammered home that Hunter and the rest of the Bad Batch (sans Echo) just... aren't real clones. Like not even in the more scientific genetic aspect of it that they so clearly are closer to what we'd consider engineered offspring than a more legitimate clone, but in the emotional sense.

Hunter just never understands why it's important to Echo to save the clones. He initially assumes Echo's just trying to take down the Empire and Echo almost angrily replies that it's about saving "our brothers" and Hunter's only response is to say "sure, but when will it be enough."

Because whether it's "enough" or not so clearly isn't the point to Echo or Rex or Fireball or Gregor or any of the other clones who are working with them. Of course it's never enough, they're never going to save everyone. But they saved Howzer. They saved two more of Howzer's men. That's three clones who are still alive and free that would not have been otherwise and that means the world to those three clones. Of course it's sad that they couldn't save Howzer's other 6 men who got taken to the prison, but it still MATTERS that they saved Howzer and the two other left. It matters to TRY, to not just ABANDON all of the other clones to death and torture at the hands of the Empire that enslaved them.

But Hunter (and Tech and Wrecker) don't have the same values and priorities as the real clones. They just don't. We know that they didn't really view the war the same way the clones do based on how they've spoken about it in TCW. The clones generally tended to believe in lofty causes, to believe in ideas and ideals. They fought because they believed in the Republic, in freedom and justice. Rex said last season that he's always been fighting to save the Republic and can't really figure out how to stop doing it even when it's become an Empire. The clones had a lot of emotions about the war. As Rex said, they wouldn't exist without it, but many of them hate it because of how it kills them and traumatizes them. They believe in the cause and can't deny that they only exist because of it, but they don't care for the lack of choice they were given and the consequences it has for them. TBB seem to see the war as more of an extended mission without a lot of emotion attached to it. And they prioritize themselves and their own personal survival over literally everything else. They will never put themselves on the line to protect someone else unless they care about that person or someone they like cares about that person. Echo (and sometimes Omega) often have to cajole and convince the rest of the squad into doing things like that, unless they're on the mission because they're getting something out of it like money.

So for Hunter, he's prioritizing his family, which solely consists of Omega, Tech, and Wrecker, with the occasional admission of people like Echo, Rex, and Crosshair. But for Echo, all of the clones ARE his family in some way. They're one giant extended family, they're a community connected through an experience no one else can understand. But TBB are not, truly, clones. They aren't part of that community, they don't truly understand that shared experience because in many ways, they didn't share it. They isolated themselves from the other clones and alienated themselves from that community. They used a separate term to refer to the clones, even, to differentiate themselves even more. There's a reason that they all have such an easier time integrating themselves into the community on Pabu than they've ever managed to do with the clones.

They call themselves clones because they were raised on Kamino and created in a lab, but in all the ways that truly matter, they're not clones at all. And that couldn't have been made clearer this episode in that conversation between Hunter and Echo.

I have to assume you're solely referencing the "bullying" we're told TBB experienced since there's literally zero real evidence of this outside of TBB other than some EXTREMELY basic boasting from the Bravo Squad to the Domino Squad and incredibly generic teasing between the men we see otherwise.

And quite honestly given that we see TBB being complete prejudiced assholes throughout their entire introductory arc, to the point that Crosshair literally tells Rex that Echo isn't worth saving BECAUSE he's a "reg," it seems ridiculously stupid to try to turn that into a reasonable response on their part by adding in this whole tragic sob story about them being bullied by the real clones.

It's an incredibly lazy and insulting writing choice because the clones' entire theme up until TBB are brought in is that appearances and genetics don't define who you are, you do. That is quite literally the ENTIRE MESSAGE behind writing the clones the way they do in TCW, it's stated within the very first fucking episode by Yoda himself, in fact. We spent SIX SEASONS with the clones epitomizing that message, learning how to think for themselves, learning who they were outside of war, fighting against their programming, fighting for their rights as people. And then TBB comes in looking completely different both to each other AND to Jango Fett, with basically magic superpowers that none of the real clones could ever possibly replicate that make them effectively a four person army. And they all look down on the real clones. To a man, they look down on every single one (barring perhaps Cody).

So to then imply that these super special magic white man looking prejudiced assholes were actually bullied FOR THEIR LOOKS by the other clones in order to force sympathy for them from the audience is the laziest possible choice they could've made. It also leaves these characters quite literally nowhere to grow and no way to connect to BEING clones which means that making them "clones" to begin with is completely and entirely meaningless as a character and narrative choice. It just doesn't impact them.

"Building to something we haven't seen yet" is bullshit. There are TWO EPISODES LEFT in the season, a two part finale. If it were building to something, maybe we should've been able to pick up on that by now. The only thing they've been building to so far is the squad getting captured AGAIN because Omega is so super special to Nala Se and then rescuing Crosshair. That's it. And again, NONE OF THAT has anything truly to do with being a CLONE. Not really.

The real clone-centric storyline in the season is ECHO'S. And Echo quite literally had to get WRITTEN OUT OF THE SHOW in order to do it because there's legitimately no in character way to let him do it while being part of the "I Hate Real Clones" squad. It's also not so subtly being set up as a SPIN-OFF because, again, there's no way to connect it to TBB while letting those characters remain in character. Because they genuinely could not give less of a shit.

Which brings me to the point that if they were going to disconnect these characters from the clones SO MUCH to the point that writing clone-centric storylines requires sidelining every single main character on the show, WHY MAKE THEM CLONES AT ALL? Why not just write their A-Team in Space bullshit with a bounty hunter crew like the one we saw in Hostages back in Season 2 of TCW? They even introduced a couple more in the Deception arc in Season 4? Why not just do another rag-tag group like the Ghost Crew? It would amount to the exact same dynamic they've got now and the exact same stories to tell.

There's no good reason to have made them fake clones who hate real clones. None. It ruins the entire message behind the writing for the clones in TCW, it's lazy writing, it's insulting to the fans who enjoyed the clones, and it's quite honestly just plain boring.

AND ANOTHER THING!

The writers THEMSELVES clearly realize it was a dumb fucking decision because they wrote in Mayday this season, a real clone who sees Crosshair and never once questions whether Crosshair is a clone or ever makes fun of him for being different. And at no point does Crosshair ever seem to point out that this is strange behavior for Mayday to have, the narrative doesn't either. There's never an ounce of mistrust on Mayday's end or any sense that he thinks Crosshair's any different from himself. Crosshair's alienation from the other clones is his own choice and his own fault, not theirs.

And within the latest episode, we're clearly intended to be on Echo's side about saving the other clones, they literally have him working with Rex and Gregor to save Howzer, all fan favorite clones. When Hunter asks "when will it be enough" I don't think we're supposed to be on his side at all. It'll be enough when they're all saved or Echo's dead, because that's what you do for family. That's what Hunter would do for Omega and Tech and Wrecker and even Crosshair ultimately.

Which is leading us towards the conclusion that while it's totally fine for Hunter to not consider the real clones his family and to focus on the people he DOES consider family, it also means he's not truly a clone, not in an emotional sense. He connects far easier and more comfortably to the refugees than he ever has to the clones. He works so hard to help protect the people of Pabu and rebuild their home for them than he's ever worked to help the clones. It's automatic with Pabu in a way it never has been with the clones. Hunter and the rest of his squad aren't clones. They don't understand why Echo calls them his brother, why Echo would die for them, why it's even important to Echo. They've literally had to convince themselves that Echo isn't truly a "reg" in order to include him in their family at all, to the point that they seem to forget that he IS. He's not actually one of them, and he's got a community that's important to him that they aren't a part of by choice.

The Bad Batch are clones by the barest of technicalities, they call themselves clones by habit more than because it's true. In reality, they're just... one more set of refugees. They're bounty hunters who happened to all be trained by the same organization for a long time. And that's really it.

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The Chancellor made a mistake

All it takes is a single mistake and generations of planning goes down the drain.  It’s actually kind of impressive when you think about the sheer amount of forethought that the death of the Jedi took.  Because all it takes is moving just a little too fast and a thousand years of hiding go out the window. 

Sheev Palptine was a font of patience when working toward his aims, but, well he had been listening to rants about Obi Wan Kenobi being the ‘Perfect Jedi’ for years. That he was detached, alien to the wider galaxy in a way that few beings ever were. Those rants sparked an idea. A way to isolate the Jedi further from the galaxy by showing them the ‘Perfect Jedi’.

And yes, Obi Wan Kenobi is one of the best representatives of what it means to be a Jedi who currently lives. But it was not for the reasons that Anakin (encouraged by Palptine) thought. The mistake Palpatine truly made was forgetting that the ‘Perfect Jedi’ image that Anakin held was created by Palpatine himself. 

There is an artifact in Palpatine’s collection (one of the few that he had both legally and visibly) that is the center of Palpatine’s plan. It is a thing of Sith magic (and could be considered a device of torture, not that any one outside of Palpatine realizes that at first) that projects key moments in the subjects life for everyone to see, to hear, and even to feel a reflection of what the subject feels (It could be considered torture becaus the subject is forced to relive these memories in their entirety, as if they were happening again. Also they have no control over what memories are being shown and once started this process cannot be stopped until it has found all of the key moments).  As it uses the Force the moments can be seen from a third person point of view.  Palpatine had even found a way to connect the artifact to a broadcasting system, meaning that the entire galaxy can see and hear and feel what it is to be the ‘Perfect Jedi’. 

At first the plan goes exactly as it was supposed to. In the guise of ‘fostering relations to disprove the horrible rumor of Jedi warmongering’ Palpatine maneuvers the Senate and the Jedi Order into Obi Wan Kenobi being the subject of this artifact and putting himself on display for all the galaxy to see. Anakin is visibly excited about this. Obi Wan is put in a Pod hovering in the center of the Rotunda, visible to all. Many Clone Commanders (and, though Palpatine had no way of knowing, Ghost Company) ring the top of the Rotunda, looking down at the General. Mace Windu and Yoda are in the Jedi Pod, looking weary (they know what a violation this is, even if no one else seemed to. The Clones, particularly those assigned to the 212th understood as well). 

The one concession that Obi Wan had managed to get is that neither he, nor those he was working with, could be prosecuted for anything that might appear in the memories (using the logic that he did not want to be prosecuted for giving away military secrets if that is something that is shown to the entire galaxy). 

The plan went wrong from the first memory (and it could not be stopped, even if Obi Wan was killed and the artifact destroyed, the Force itself would continue projecting until the memories had run their course). 

The very first memory comes with the echo of fear and pain and the sensation of being unable to breath.  The galaxy watches a tiny redheaded toddler being held under a river by a woman that could be his mother.  A jedi of Togruta descent comes upon them and pushes the woman away and gently lifts the toddler. The reflection of a warmth easing the feeling of drowning echoes and comforts, the fear also easing. The woman then shrieks that the boy is cursed; is Obi Wan Kenobi. As she runs off the Togruta looks down at the toddler, smiles sadly and says “Not to worry, little Obi Wan, where we’re going, having the Force is no curse.”

A ripple of horror spreads throughout the galaxy. The darkness that the Sith had worked so hard to cultivate begins to thin, as beings of all kinds absolutely fall in love with the red headed toddler whose earliest memory is being rescued by the Jedi.  It thins further though moments in Obi Wan’s childhood. Instead of seeing indoctrination or baby stealing the galaxy sees sentients doing their best for the children under their care. Yes there is bullying, the misunderstandings and teasing of any group of children and too few caretakers. But there is also Grandmaster Yoda playing prank after prank on and with the younglings.  There is sleeping in a pile of crechemates, feeling safe (even in the presence of a bully). There are ‘adventures’ of sneaking into the kitchen with friends. Daycare workers, Nannies, and caretakers the Galaxy over have never felt closer to the Jedi than experiencing Obi Wan’s memories of the Creche.

The galaxy sees the teachings of the Jedi from the eyes of their children, and it is easier to understand there is so much emphasis on self control when a tantrum causes every toy in the room to shoot up to hit the ceiling then rain down on children. They see the mistakes, because there are always mistakes and things that could have been done better when raising children. They see Obi Wan’s visions and nightmares, and how they are handled. They see the places where rigid tradition is to the detriment of the Order but they also see the soft moments. The moments of comfort. They see Yoda calming Obi Wan after a nightmare and how the words “Always in motion, the future is” is not just an admonishment but also a comfort. 

And they see the mystical powers of the Jedi being taught. That it is not just some magically granted power, but something that is taught and studied and worked for. They see behind the magic, what’s more for the first time the majority of the galaxy feels the Force the way the Jedi do (an odd consequence of the artifact being tied to the broadcaster like it was, is that most of the galaxy never really lost that sense after, even if they were not Force Sensitive enough to use the Force) for the first time.

And Sheev Palpatine is undeniably evil, there is no question about that. He is, in fact, proud of that. But even he feels…something when he watched a grown man tell a twelve year old Obi Wan that he is destined to fall (that memory alone swelled the darkness again).  Through the memories, and armed with hindsight, the galaxy can hear the Force whisper to Obi Wan, telling him he is destined to be a knight. Compassion lights up the galaxy, shaded with horror, when the bomb collar locks home.  And for many of the comfortable in the galaxy, even among those that consider themselves ‘good’ this is the closest they have come to experiencing slavery, the fear, the cruelty, the hollow ache. They hear and feel the secrets that slaves keep and vow to take action (it is a vow that turns to words again for many, but on dozen worlds it sparks into a bonfire that roots out slavery where it finds it). 

When Cody hears Qui Gon Jinn tell Obi wan that the reason he is taking him as a padawan is because he was willing to die, he scoffs softly and murmurs “so that is where that comes from”. (Gree asks him why he is not surprised by any of this, since Skywalker visibly is. Cody looks at Gree and says that the General had already told these stories, all they had to do was ask).

It is with the memory of Obi Wan leaving the Order for the Young that it first occurs to Anakin that this was a violation. They should not be watching Obi Wan’s most intimate memories. This is not how Anakin should be learning about his former Master.   The horror grows as he feels with every moment of the war that is shown. Then Cerasi dies. Three quarters of the galaxy sob outright for this young girl, who in her last moments spoke of Peace.  It is nigh on impossible not to feel for these tired child soldiers and the Jedi Padawan that fought with them, they find the peace that they fought for but it took so much. Too much.

Then Obi Wan returns to the Temple. These are sentient beings, with hopes and dreams and flaws, the galaxy is reminded again and again. Nearly every memory has something that someone in the galaxy can relate to. The successes and failures that they can see through Obi Wan’s eyes. 

When the child version of the Hero with No Fear is brought before the council the entire Galaxy feels the ache of never being enough, for always feeling like the second, the third, the last choice. Not even a thought during Qui Gon’s last moments. The grief of losing a parent is all too common, the stress of having to suddenly raise a younger sibling, of subsuming your own grief to be there for someone else and feeling alone in the world are not much less. And every parent in the galaxy knew the feeling of the teen years, where it seemed like everything Obi Wan did was a mistake or a misstep (Anakin remembered those years differently, shaded in a defensiveness that he was not sure the origin of now). Most of all everyone could feel the love that suffused Obi Wan every memory of Anakin,  this boy who should have been his brother but instead was his son.

The attempted assassination of Senator Amidala drew Obi Wan to Kamino. For the first time the galaxy and, almost more importantly, the Senate saw the Clones through the eyes of the Jedi. Instead of rows of identical, interchangeable faces, it was constellations of stars in miniature. Each unique. Each beautiful.  It was profound. It was striking. 

Reflected horror only grew with each memory of battle. With each memory of grieving with Clones, they became more real.  Even the Kaminoan Senator was discomforted, could not quite maintain the line that the clones were flesh droids. 

There were memories of Obi Wan meeting with other Jedi, with Commander Cody, with Commander Fox, within his own Battalion trying desperately to protect the Clones and the Jedi. It hurt a number of the Senators and representatives to realize that they were the ones Obi Wan was protecting them from. An ache that served to Lighten the Force even further grew when Obi Wan and Cody acknowledged their desire to be together, but put that desire to the side so the could always be ‘above reproach’ to be able to protect other relationships (Padme/anakin, Aayla/ Bly, a number of others that involved either Jedi or Clones). An ache that grew when they watched from Obi Wan’s eyes as Fox and Quinlan Vos did the same.  When several Lieutenants came forward with a plan to reduce Bacta (and other resources) use enough that they could send the excess to the Coruscant Guard, since they are never given enough.  Countless discussion of where to move Clones to, either for their own protection or to protect others. The updating lists about which Senators the Clones must never be alone around.

There is a flurry of notes taken when Obi Wan explains to Ghost company that relationships with Jedi are not forbidden by the Council, but formalized relationships (marriage, parent/child, any relationship that have a legal basis) were made illegal by a treaty with Naboo some three hundred years before. This treaty does allow for exceptions to be approved with restrictions (Ki Adi Mundi’s exception is cultural, he is only allowed to have contact with his wives when trying to get them pregnant and is not allowed contact with his children. If he has a boy he will be required to dissolve that marriage and if the ratio of male/female stabilizes he will be required to dissolve all of his marriages).  The consequences for breaking this treaty are severe, particularly for the non Jedi party.  These consequences include imprisonment for approximately 1/10 of the beings potential life span, with any children born of the union to be surrendered to be studied (The law does not say that they will be studied expressly, but it is certainly implied). This was explained as part of a lesson on how to subtly discourage gossip about a topic (primarily Padem and Anakin’s marriage). When asked he also explains that there are two reasons that he would ask them to do that. One reason is personal, Anakin loves Padme and it would hurt him if something happened to her. The Second reason has to do with what happens with Politics and Scandal.  That once it becomes known that they had married, Padme would effectively become poison to anything her name was on. And Padme had long been a champion of the underdog. Her name was on a lot of less than popular measures, including everything to do with Clone rights (He had tried to bring this up with both Padme and Anakin, they didn’t listen). He explained how important image was in this case, that was why he tried to make sure his troops were both visible and seen doing positive things. He was hoping that by the time the marriage became common knowledge they had enough goodwill to survive the fallout. (In the audience three of Padme’s advisers along with Padme herself start hyperventilating slightly when they do indeed find that little known treaty. Up with the Clones, Commander Thorn went ‘huh. I wondered why the 212th rarely got arrested on shore leave anymore’)  When asked why the Jedi of that time let that treaty be signed, Obi Wan sighed and told them that he Jedi were not consulted.

The very last memory shown is Obi Wan, being told that he would need to be hooked up to a Sith Artifact and expose all of his best and worst memories for the Galaxies entertainment.  His quiet dread looking at the pod that they were currently seeing him in. 

For a moment the Light overtook the Force. Every being in the galaxy was bathed in the Light of Force. They saw themselves, both their flaws and their beauty as it truly was. 

The Artifact shuts off and before anyone else can do anything, Ghost company descends on Jetpacks. They landed the Pod and bundled their General out of the Rotunda.  

In the aftermath there were many that weren’t affected by what the Galaxy had seen, there always would be, but there just as many that did. In spite of the assholes, most people thought themselves as good, wanted to give more than they took, wanted to be happy and have those around them be happy. 

A young scientist on Kamino looked into a mess hall crowded with Clone cadets. The day before they would have seen one cadet indistinguishable from another, mechanical instead of organic. Today all they could see were shining stars, individual and unique.  In that instant they made a choice that would change the galaxy. They approached Shaak Ti and Commander Colt asking to speak privately. They explained that each clone was decanted with an inactive inhibitor chip (knowledge of which had been explicitly barred from being given to the Jedi) and that on these chips there was a set of orders hardcoded, they did not know what the orders were, that would take precedence over even the clone own free will. They handed over a flimsi with a frequency on it. This frequency would shut off the chips once they were activated, but would not do anything to them until that point. They could not be removed without alerting whoever included the orders and the chip in the contract.

Colt asked the scientist why now. The Kaminoan was quiet for a moment then said ‘yesterday you were interchangeable. Today you are not.’ and leaves. 

On Coruscant a senatorial aide moves toward her next meeting. A few of her colleagues were further down the hall talking and complaining about the clones, the cost of creating more, calling them things and equipment, and jokes about their deficiencies. Not five feet away is a member of the Coruscant Guard, standing guard.  She considers herself a good person, a kind person but it strikes her how many times she has seen this exact scene play out. It strikes her how many times she has ignored the beings protecting her, and how she was considered among the kindest beings in the senate for it. Looking at the red painted guard all she can see is Obi Wan Kenobi's memories of meetings with Commander Fox, lists of people they needed to protect the Clones from, a tiny list of people outside the Jedi and the Clones they can trust.  Abruptly she decided that her meeting could wait as she squared her shoulders to confront the talkers, she knew what list she wanted to be on and it was time to prove it. 

It took a thousand years of planning to carefully darken the Force to the point where the Sith could hide on Coruscant itself. A thousand years to cloud the Force, all to be ready to destroy the Jedi.  It took a thousand year and all it took was one day, not even a day. It took the six hours that Obi Wan was in the clutches of the Artifact to destroy all of that planning. 

Palpatine didn’t even realize what it meant, at first, when the entire Galaxy seemed to get six shades lighter. Then, two tenday after, a new bill was introduced contending that the Clones met all the requirements to be considered a previously unknown near human variation.

It should have failed. He owned 75% of the senate outright. It should have failed. 

It passed. It passed overwhelmingly because too many of the voting morons thought they were giving a pittance they could then ignore. Not that being declared a near human variation automatically granted the rights he had spent so long denying the clones. 

Then some sour apple tried to prosecute Amidala for marrying a Jedi (Palpatine was holding that in reserve, to get ahold of any children), Commanders Cody and Fox for the very obvious collusion to assist in the desertion of GAR Clones, prior to their rights being granted, and Jedi’s Vos, Windu, Koon, and Kenobi for the same reason. Which was now impossible because a blanket pardon was issued for any crimes that came to light as a result of Kenobi’s memories. 

Petitions were already streaming in to have the treaty that makes Jedi marriage illegal broken and they seemed to be going to people that would actually do it (A spontaneous group formed, nearly 40,00 people strong across six system composed of both Republic and Seperatist citizens, whose sole goal is to get Codywan together and married).

At first Palpatine tries to wait it out, tries to keep with the plan because he is not one to act impulsively. Six tenday later, he realized differently. The Galaxy continued to lighten, kindness springing up. Slavery was in a downward spiral as more people stood up, spoke up, and tried to make things better. His empire was slipping from his grasp. 

He executed Order 66.  For a moment the light of clones dimmed and their minds compressed. Then the Clones who had taken his call jolted as if stung. There was a sharp crack and the remaining darkness fell apart. And Palpatine learned a lesson that few Sith lived long enough to, too long standing in the dark make the light fatal. 

I really like the specific niche of star wars fans that are just obsessed with clones (like myself) bc I swear, we are the most avoidant group of ppl the galaxy has ever fcking met.

But I am not just another number. None of us are. - ARC Trooper Fives

This is not Commander Cody this is some haole named Kyle:

Nothing but respect for the real Commander Cody:

What if the clones DO have a concept of incestuous clone relationships, but it’s if it’s your BATCHMATE that’s nasty, but just some brother from the next battalion over? Everybody’s done that! Who cares!

(the next battalion over is the 501st, EVERYONE has done that guy, his name is Bicycle, he is now my most treasured OC)

People have been misunderstanding this post. Let me say very clearly this is not me “justifying clonecest.” I do not need to justify this fictional and harmless thing that I enjoy. I will ship a brother with his batchmate in a heartbeat and feel great about it. This is a funny post because oh boy are people uptight these days and I just wanted to talk about my boy Bicycle, slut of the Five Oh First. Thank you for your time.

I know his name is Bicycle because of the joke, but do bikes exist in Star Wars? Would his name be Speeder? Because I feel that would also be funny.

Anakin: Your name is Speeder, right? Is that because you’re fast?

Hardcase, yelling from across the room: Fast and LOOSE!

Clone Wars AU where instead of chips, the clones are actually raised to be undercover as loyal soldiers knowing they'd betray the jedi ("traitors") on the order, and are all ready to complete their mission—

But uh. The jedi are really nice?? And kinda dumb??? And they reaaaally don't know how they survived this long when they are just so dumb and trusting and oh no they're attached.

There are many unfortunate realizations. The clones form a support group to rant about their stupid jetii because "—guys you don't understand he loses his lightsaber every two seconds and then smiles at me when I give it back and has decided since I have it so much I should know how to use it and this week he ordered chocolate for everyone what do I do—"

Bly be sitting in the corner, rocking because "Oh no she's hot"

Wolffe is sitting there holding in manly tears because Plo is a buir but he's a traitor but Plo is such a buir can he be my buir

Rex is like "listen I know Skywalker is supposed to be the one non-traitor of the bunch but like. He's crazy???? And the Commander is also crazy???? How am I supposed to keep up with them???? How much worse would they be without Kenobi????????? And I think Skywalker might actually murder us all if anyone touches the commander or Kenobi???????????"

And meanwhile Fox is all "I keep pulling this one weird jedi out of the dumpster and I can't get rid of him. How do I get rid of him, he's growing on me like mold and I hate it."

Meanwhile I cant decide if the Jedi know that somethings up with the clones and are keeping them close or if they just are genuinely like "man those guys are so great ❤️❤️❤️ I'd trust my life with them ❤️❤️❤️ if they don't tell me smth they def have a good reason ❤️❤️❤️"

Star Wars takes I’m sick of seeing:

1. When a Jedi chooses to no longer follow the path of a Jedi, they are automatically a Sith. That’s like saying if you are no longer a practicing Jew, you’re automatically a Catholic. Being a Sith has a specific set of beliefs and doctrines that must be followed, the same as being a Jedi. One can choose to no longer be a Jedi and *not* be evil or Fallen in any way, shape, or form, and this does not make them a bad person.

2. That if the Jedi were just a bit more Mandalorian, it would have Solved All Their Problems and prevented Anakin from Falling. Usually this means that if the Jedi just showed more emotion/weren’t emotionally repressed/if Obi-Wan just told Anakin he loved him/was proud of him, Anakin wouldn’t have made the decision on multiple occasions to slaughter children. There are so many “fix it” fics where this is the underlying theme.

3. Likewise, the Jedi repress their emotions. The Jedi teach their students to be *mindful* of their emotions, to not react based on a person’s first initial knee jerk response. They asked Anakin to have the same level of emotional control as a kindergartener–you don’t get to punch someone because they took your favorite toy and broke it.

3. When Mandalorians adopt children (with or without parental permission) and indoctrinate them into their culture of weaponry and violence, it’s cute; when the Jedi adopt children (usually with parental permission) and teach them to control their emotions and their psychic powers based on those emotions, they’re an evil child-snatching cult. Only the Mandalorians are capable of forming a family bond and despite being communally raised, the Jedi are incapable of forming those same bonds, probably because of all that emotional repression. But if you violate the rules of the Mandalorians, you are cast out of said “family”, whereas even someone like Darth Vader was offered a way home.

4. Love = Attachment. Attachment is about greed and possession. We are told *and* shown on multiple occasions that you can love someone and let them go. Obi-Wan does it multiple times. But when you go beyond love, when you refuse to accept loss, whether it’s external like death or internal like someone choosing to leave you, that’s when you move into Attachment, and *that* is what leads to the Dark side.

ETA, because apparently I wasn’t done:

5.  The Jedi Order, which has existed for tens of thousands of years, should change everything about itself and its doctrines to suit one kid who doesn’t actually care about following other people’s rules in any circumstance.

6. Anakin Skywalker is the only Jedi who ever treated the clones like Real People, despite several blatant examples showing otherwise, and the fact that he was totally chill with them having their identities and free will stripped away from them. But because he was the only one who was Raised By A Real Mother, he’s the only one capable of showing compassion to other people.

7. That because they have accelerated aging, this makes the clones child soldiers. If they were completely non-human, no one would blink an eye at the idea of a species maturing at a different rate than humans. So they’ve only been alive for ten years? That does not make them children. Grogu has been alive for over 50 years and he’s still a toddler. Calling them children is infantilizing and demeaning. 

8. Listen, I love whumping on Obi-Wan as much as the next fangirl, but I’m kinda getting tired of the whole “Obi-Wan never goes to medical/doesn’t sleep/doesn’t remember to eat” thing. He raised a whole ass padawan to adulthood. We have never actually seen him deny himself medical care, sleep, or food. He might work longer hours during the war, but so does everyone else. And the only reason I can justify him not eating isn’t because he “forgets” so much as the poor guy probably has a terrible case of decision fatigue. If all he has to do is walk to the chow hall and get served what everyone else is being served, I don’t think he’d have that much of a problem. There are, of course, extenuating circumstances to all of these based on any prior trauma he may or may not have, but otherwise it’s infantilizing.

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Tl;dr: I am so incredibly sick of seeing people literally spew back the propaganda and rhetoric the Sith used to justify mass genocide, and how utterly fucking lacking in self awareness and acknowledgment of reality it makes them seem. 

Like, yes, Star Wars isn’t real, but so much of it is based on real events, with very blatant analogies. Barely even analogies. And so many people just sit back and say “well the Jedi must have deserved it” and they don’t fucking *think* and I am just… tired.

And this is being said as a white cis woman who was raised Catholic. So like… I’m sorry to those of you who this hits closer to home for. I’m sorry that this world is such a fucking shitty place that any of this ever seems justified, in or out “of universe”. I wish I could do more than be tired and angry on your behalf.

Nothing pulls me out of a story like the clone's being the voice of a 'normal' perspective. These guys have the weirdest upbringing imaginable.

Ditto “the clones understand childhood and emotions better than the Jedi.”