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Desultory Novice

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Before everyone's like, "Damn, Dess, you said you wanted to make Dark Matter Swordsman a tragic bad guy like Queen Sectonia and President Haltmann but Noir's life is implausibly bad???"

Oh trust me, I have various HC that Joronia's life was pretty awful too, going from her happy (?) childhood to "Sectonia."

And I know someone's going to ask, so let me elaborate! XD

In the Dess-verse, the various insectoid species of Popstar were a collection of small, constantly-warring, bloodthirsty nations. Joronia's tiny kingdom was the smallest. She trained from a young age in military and magic arts because unlike the others, she HAD to fight on the frontlines. They didn't have enough power without her.

Her first parasitic bodyswap was not by choice.

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And now, a bit of dark humor re: that Queen Sectonia ask:

Sectonia: Ah, what a beautiful day for the most beautiful beauty of all: me!

Dark Meta Knight (or the Dimension Mirror, idk): indeed, Your Majesty's countenance make the flowers, moon and stars hide in shame; none surpass you! except one

Sectonia: what was that last part?

DMK (or DM): ...none surpass you?

Sectonia: No, you said there was someone more beautiful than me! Who could have beauty superior to mine!?

♪five days later!♪

Some bee lady in the middle of nowhere: Wow! An invitation to meet the Queen at Castle Floralia! Things are sure looking up for me!

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Its well known that I loathe the "DMK is Sectonia's mirror on the wall" theory but...I will give you this one, as a bonus. >w<

Writing this has brought an additional question about this silly theory into my mind. Why does anyone think Sectonia, obsessed with beauty, would listen to anything from THE most unwashed character in the Kirby series? XD

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hi dess! probably the wrong person to ask but it's just to immensely confuddling... is there a solid lore explanation for how sectonia turned into a bee? i wanted to write a body horror thing for her but i wanted it to be lore accurate and it's just all so convoluted !

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Wrong person or not, it is impeccable timing! Both because of Triple Deluxe's 10th Anniversary (in Japan time) and the fact that I've been intensely studying those scenes for my own anniversary piece! Which is, err, running late.

Here is what we can garner about Sectonia's transformation abilities based on the available information + insights the game gives us.

[Pause Screen Lore]

VS Sectonia Vine

"Sectonia's family(1) have parasitized, taken possession of, and controlled countless lifeforms."

1) This word is often translated as "clan" as in a large gathering of members who are not necessarily family but belong to a specific unified group. IE, this could mean anything from "she and her direct family members have this ability" to "all spiders within a certain classification have this ability" to "all spiders have this ability".

I sometimes HC that possession is something all female spiders possess, because I like to imagine her people being a Queendom and that'd be a good reason for it, and also because of The Dark Crystal's "Wings? I don't have wings." "Of course not. You're a boy." (Which just feels so Taranza + Sectonia coded to me)

(I say "sometimes" because I'm also very fond of trans-girl Sectonia HC.)

VS Queen Sectonia (2)

"Sectonia, beautiful and menacing in form. She has [placed herself] inside the world tree..."

VS Sectonia Soul (2)

"I have parasitized and changed bodies so many times, I can no longer recall...which of them was my original self..."

(This pause screen lore is written from Sectonia's POV.)

So, yes, Joronia/Sectonia is a parasite.

She attaches to something and makes it part of her body/swaps bodies with it. If we look at the difference between her queen-form and her flowered-form, we understand a few things about this process: she takes her current body, as well as the body of another living organism and fuse them together. IE: 1 + 1 = 1

Additions thanks to @thecrashman

I loved this idea. Dedede's got a nice, large body (Taranza shouldn't be as large as her, because she's the queen, but he shouldn't be small and puny like he is currently) Plus "the hero of the lower realm" is powerful too. Taranza has magic but this will give him strength. (1)

More importantly, he looks nothing like the current Taranza.

In Japanese, Sectonia specifically calls him "みにくい" or "ugly" ("visually unpleasant to look upon." Though this can also be in reference to him pitifully begging for her aid.)

It's just another indication she really loathes her original looks/has swapped so much she can't really empathize with/recognize how she looked before the mirror incident changed her.

(1) This doesn't work as well if Sectonia knew who the real hero was and what he looked like the whole time, of course.

Is it possible Taranza even can also body-swap? ...We don't know for sure because we haven't seen it in action. But it's worth remembering the way Dark Taranza looks. His horns and stinger are quite different from his original ones. He looks a bit like an amalgam creature, just like I hypothesized with Sectonia and her first body-swap...

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hi dess! probably the wrong person to ask but it's just to immensely confuddling... is there a solid lore explanation for how sectonia turned into a bee? i wanted to write a body horror thing for her but i wanted it to be lore accurate and it's just all so convoluted !

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Wrong person or not, it is impeccable timing! Both because of Triple Deluxe's 10th Anniversary (in Japan time) and the fact that I've been intensely studying those scenes for my own anniversary piece! Which is, err, running late.

Here is what we can garner about Sectonia's transformation abilities based on the available information + insights the game gives us.

[Pause Screen Lore]

VS Sectonia Vine

"Sectonia's family(1) have parasitized, taken possession of, and controlled countless lifeforms."

1) This word is often translated as "clan" as in a large gathering of members who are not necessarily family but belong to a specific unified group. IE, this could mean anything from "she and her direct family members have this ability" to "all spiders within a certain classification have this ability" to "all spiders have this ability".

I sometimes HC that possession is something all female spiders possess, because I like to imagine her people being a Queendom and that'd be a good reason for it, and also because of The Dark Crystal's "Wings? I don't have wings." "Of course not. You're a boy." (Which just feels so Taranza + Sectonia coded to me)

(I say "sometimes" because I'm also very fond of trans-girl Sectonia HC.)

VS Queen Sectonia (2)

"Sectonia, beautiful and menacing in form. She has [placed herself] inside the world tree..."

VS Sectonia Soul (2)

"I have parasitized and changed bodies so many times, I can no longer recall...which of them was my original self..."

(This pause screen lore is written from Sectonia's POV.)

So, yes, Joronia/Sectonia is a parasite.

She attaches to something and makes it part of her body/swaps bodies with it. If we look at the difference between her queen-form and her flowered-form, we understand a few things about this process: she takes her current body, as well as the body of another living organism and fuse them together. IE: 1 + 1 = 1

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Okay, back where we were left off at the Magoland Branch AU Magolor only had his sight partially restored, but in the crossover between the Apologies AU and the Magoland Branch AU his sight was fully restored. So how did that happen anyways?

Also, how long did it take between the conclusion of the Magoland Branch AU and the crossover between the Apologies AU and the Magoland Branch​ AU?

(Double question because I want lore.)

(Also, how long will it be till my other ask is done? I'm not rushing it or anything, (Take your time Dess! (^v^)​) I'm just curious about how long will it take.)

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>How long did it take?

It took... X amount of time! XD ...I dunno! Noir SHOULD have been in hell since almost the beginning, since he was the first or second to die also his life has just been hell since the day his parents died....

Like Noir, who acted as "dead" as possible in the hopes of actually dying, the deceased probably stuck to their own personal purgatories and never really did much positive interacting, outside of people who formed odd connections all on their own, like Joronia and Max, who quickly bonded over their love of rich, fancy things. >w<

Max: "01001101 01110101 01110011 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01100110 01100110 01100101 01100101 00100000 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101100 01110111 01100001 01111001 01110011 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110010 01101110 01110100 00111111"

Joronia: "Oooh, do not even get me started on tea in this place!"(1)

("How does Joronia know binary? Why, she's the smartest, strongest, most beautiful queen ever! Of course she knows binary!" - Taranza)

The paradigm changed when Marx found Magolor's tormented soul and convinced the Crown to give Magolor control of his body back. Magolor, trapped in a series of troubled and confusing hallucinations due to how horrific and constant the pain of having a large, wrathful tree feeding off of and growing inside him was, blindly used the crown's limitless power to create an actual theme park.

"Timeline-wise" I'd say once Elfilin and Adeleine started interacting more, Fecty probably said some off-handed remark to "the human girl" (ie: "...your eyes are the exact same color as that boy in hell...") that clued X-over Adeleine into the location/existence of her X-over brother and they had a big, tearful reunion and here we are!

(1) PS: "Hell" here is not full of demons and pitchforks, but it is uncomfortably *bright* (the sun is ever-burning and the sky goes through a cycle of golden hour-orange to fever-dream dark with shades of electric pink at night) and also, there is a larger than average amount of fire. A whole lake made of it, in fact!

>Why does Magolor have both eyes?

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day 31 uhhh..... - final boss

2 months late, over 30 hours of work...what a grand finish, eh ?

i actually finished this around november or so, i'd just neglected to post it for a while. i wanted to try out a lot of stuff; a scene with lots of characters (including some i don't draw that often), 5 point (fisheye) perspective, weird lighting angles, having my own free reign with the colors after restricting them for a month. the result has gotta be my favorite art piece of 2023.

this is also going to be my last post of this year. see yall in 2024 !!!

noir by @desultory-novice (noir is THE dms gijinka to me. like i couldn't even try to come up with my own. he's Real and Canon and I Cannot Change This.)

color palette: none !

I'M SORRY FOR THE MASSIVE SOBBING IN ALL CAPS OMG WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOIR IS THE CANON DMS GIJINKA TO YOU OMG AHHHHHHH I DON'T EVEN NO WHAT TO SAY EXCEPT I WISH I HAD BEEN BETTER AT ARMOR DESIGN OMG BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH ANYWAY BOWING AT YOUR FEET FOR THIS!?!

:breathes:

Also, phew, GRAND FINISH indeed!! You freed yourself to go wild with the colors and you made everything flow together beautifully?! It's like a river of rainbows and soft light carrying your eyes around the piece! All enhanced by the choice to use fish-eye perspective!

This is like the sequel to that Star Allies picture! It's so immense and cool! And the other bosses!! Magolor's haunted "smile" in the corner! Zero is giving me immense positive chills! 02 and Void as well! The way 02's wings overlap with Marx's to create Void Termina's wings?! GENIUS! Also Sectonia Soul with those haunting blues and reds, paralleled with Elfilis's glowing golds! (And Necrodeus! And Claycia/Crafter! Spinoff bosses yay!)

30 hours! Phew! This is amazing work and hrrrrrgh I'm still crying happy tears that my work got to be included in this?! ; _ ;

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Anonymous asked:

Death battle! Traitor Magolor vs. Queen Sectonia. How do you think it could turn out?

I remember reading a banger fanfiction about this but can't find it anymore. From my memory, it gives a open ending with Magolor injured and transformed into EX, so I'm more curious about your take.

Huh! I have to say, these kinds of power comparisons between characters is not normally my cup of tea, but I'll give this a whirl!

If we start out with the two of them in their their initial forms, I have to give the opening round to Sectonia. In my mind, it's no contest.

"But Dess, Magolor has the Master Crown! It has limitless power!"

That is true. But it is here I am forced to say "...Skill issue." XD If you know western comics (memes) then you've probably heard the complaints about some of the various Green Lanterns being bad because they are so uncreative with their power.

That's exactly where Magolor is. He has limitless power but he's still fighting with the mindset of a weak, underpowered mage.

Sectonia, on the other hand, has 1,000 years of experience running a conquering military empire under her belt. She's trained in both swordsmanship and magic.  She was also able to down Taranza (a good comparison for regular Magolor) with a single, casual blow.

Of course, we all know what happens immediately after you defeat Traitor Magolor... :du~n, dun da dun dun dun da~:

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I wonder what you'd think about a hypothetical scenario of Sectonia and Max Haltmann somehow coming back to life? And by this, I'm actually thinking of a scenario where they come back IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS before they got mind-corrupted and turned into the villains that they became.

Imagine the discussions that Sectonia would have with Taranza after her "revival", and what discussions Haltmann would have with Susie after his "revival"... Oh man, it all might be heart-wrenching.

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Honestly, I would love something like this to happen! I feel like both of them have a lot to add to the cast and the group dynamics. On the heart-wrenching scale and the funny/cutesy scale!

Maybe this is me watching too much love comedies growing up, but I feel like Taranza would STILL have trouble admitting he "likes" likes Sectonia , even if she were to come back to life in her right mind!

Like, he'd be happy and he'd hug her and there'd be tears and then he'd start to say a bunch of things he couldn't say but when it came to admitting WHY he's so happy she's alright, he would start to stutter and stammer and, "I-I need to fix my hair! I'll be back!"

(The two of them would probably figure it out eventually, although several characters being part of the "kiss already!" cheering squad as they continually dance around each other would be fun to see too.

And it would be fun to see Haltmann pivot to being just a funny, over-protective dad. It's the way he laughs during his boss fight, but I like to imagine him as something of a hidden goofball. But then, when it comes to Susie, he gets super serious. When Susie casually mentions she has a rivalry with Francisca, the next morning, Susie campaign signs pop up a~ll over Dream Land XD

I can't help but think it would be a LITTLE fun (okay, a lot fun) if like Magolor, they kept some aspects of their corruption. Like Sectonia still gets a little possessive about things: "Ooh, Taranza! I love this place! We should ANNEX it!" "M-my queen, I'm not sure King Dedede would like that." "Oh... ._. Should we go to war with him to make him give it to us?" "Q-Queen Sectonia!" "Kidding, Taranza!"

Or pit Max and Magolor in a comedic business rivalry for who can earn the most money selling trivial trinkets to the residents of Popstar. Little situations like that!

Basically, if I had my way and there was a new Kirby anime series or a (serious) Kirby manga, I would want both of them to survive their games and be healed, so that they could hang around and contribute to future adventures. Sure, it might be a little idealistic, but these would be spinoffs, so really, what's the harm?

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cauli-flawa

Kirby HC - Liar's Gold

AKA whats with all the ancient gold stuff?

more detailed (and sane) rambles below:

"THAT IS AN ANCIENT ARTIFACT DO NO TOUCH" :dying with laughter:

Also, I adore this! I always love your power point presentations on Kirby theory!! The note about how in each case, it becomes part of their body/almost like a body part is a really neat connection!

(I too think Marx Soul's wings are kind of fleshy now?! Blood red?!)

Also, tying the "fool's gold' (good name!) into the Knights and Galaxia's lore is very nifty as an explanation for why things do and don't go bad! (That's something I had always wondered about myself. Why Meta seems relatively immune from most bad stuff.) I love the idea that Galacta's horns (something the other knights don't have) might be part of/a remainder of some transformation!

And yeah, Galacta's defeats are all wild! Often unique, too!

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Do you think sectonia will come back to life in her pre bee form and taranza will be happy again

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...Hmm. You've put me in something of a conundrum. When you ask a question so sincerely, I want to give a sincere answer, even though the answer I have is not a pleasant or cheery one.

I don't think she will ever come back. Bee, wasp, spider, plant, or otherwise.

I don't think that was the point of Triple Deluxe's story, tbh. It was, on the surface, a fairy tale. You play out this heroic narrative about a hero climbing a giant beanstalk to slay an evil queen and rescue the kingdom of the nice flower fairies from the scary bug people!

~The End~

And THEN you're invited to play it again and realize, "Oh no, the evil queen was actually a tragic figure, and so was that spider guy."

It's because of that Triple Deluxe just isn't written as a story where the tragic queen can come back to life. And now, her death has influenced enough of the overall narrative and themes of the Kirby series to the point that I think "invalidating" her death by bringing her back would be walking back on those significant thematic changes.

Now, do I think Taranza will ever be happy again?

...Yes, actually!

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oh my god i just had A Thought. ok so in star allies there's a celebration image called "rockability and blues" which has taranza reaching out to the dimension mirror with sectonia in the background and joronia on the other side of the mirror, and when dedede finds the mirror he instantly encounters his mirror world self, so. what if sectonia is somehow mirror world joronia and joronia is still in the mirror world somewhere. that probably wouldn't hold up canonically but it would still be cool

Honestly, seeing as how the OG, Dark Meta Knight, successfully sealed Meta Knight in the mirror world for a time, it's not that farfetched of an idea!

I think the only thing standing in the way of that theory being super plausible is that I imagine Director Kumazaki would probably prefer Sectonia be "responsible" for her own evil deeds and face the outcome of them, rather than the Sectonia we fought being an evil mirror clone while "our" sweet Joronia did nothing wrong. Sniffle...

(My many years as an anime/game fan has taught me that generally speaking "They were just controlled/brainwashed/body-swapped" is not a very popular lead in for "...which is why X did nothing wrong!!" A lot of creators want their characters to take SOME responsibility, even if the situation got out of their hands really quickly.

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#20! Because I like when my friends are proud of themselves.

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Fufufu, because this ask came up twice, everyone gets a bonus, a brand new, un-seen Dess pic! It's actually really unfinished - and due to its complexity, I don't know when I'll be able to finish it tbh - but this was a lot for me and I'm REALLY proud of what I managed!!

CW: Horror, Body Horror, also Gijinka

(Contents: three (unfinished) gilded portraits in soft, pastel colors of a humanized Magolor, Sectonia, and Haltmann and their respective gruesome fates in their Soul forms. No eyes/wrong eyes, detached heads and insect wings, wires going everywhere, etc etc)

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A comment on my First Sentences post reminded that I really don’t write much or any Kirby fanfic, even though I enjoy writing non-script format stuff just fine. My other Sectonia + Taranza piece was lost along with several other Kirby works but, to my relief, I still had this little thing I’d been working on. So I finished it up to share!

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Title: "Queen's Tear" Characters: Joronia (Queen Sectonia) and Taranza Genre: Gen, Character Study Rating: G Word Count: 990 words

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I could go on and on

[Pictured: an image of the contents of my head 24/7] But also yesssss! Yes to all these connections! Also, this makes me think even more that Morpho’s Doomblade could be connected. It might even be something akin to what a Galaxia type sword could be if it were corrupted?

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“Visitors”

Parts 4 of the “Magoland Underworld Branch AU” (Based on the script I wrote in another post. I decided to draw this one too, for it to all connect nicely to the ending. Which is coming...later-ish...)

Part 1 “A Beautiful Sunset” Part 2 “The Sun Never Sets” Part 3 “Screams of Joy” Part 4 “Visitors” [You Are Here] Part 5 “A Perfect Circle”

Relevant: “Conditional”

Prologue: “Selfish Needs

Last time: A crazed, hallucinating Magolor Soul opened a theme park in hell along with the other Lost Souls. Because it was that or cry all day. Elfilin has just decided a nice, peaceful park visit might help Efilis with their trauma...

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