Harvest Moon last night so I guess it really is autumn now 🍂
Spotting Alt-Right Imagery on Nordic Blogs
I’ve been getting a lot of asks/messages lately from folks who want to practice Norse paganism and join the heathen community but are worried about white supremacist blogs. That’s totally valid - there’s a lot of them and some of them are well hidden under “aesthetic norse” blogs. So, I wrote up a little lists of indicators to look out for and avoid. Most of the runes and images(like Odin’s ravens) aren’t inherently racist/problematic and should be considered in context of the blog. Please keep in mind there are many more symbols and names/titles that could be included, I am just focusing on the Norse aspect from the USA.
- Odinist/Wodenism/Wotanist - Oidinist is most often the term norse leaning white-supremacists lean towards. The term “Odinist” was first used as a self-descriptor by Alexander Rud Mills, an Australian Nazi sympathizer who founded an Odinist church in 1934. The name was carried on by Else Christensen and her Odinist Fellowship; Christensen’s newsletter, The Odinist, contained more far right-wing political content than religious content. If you go the official Odinists website(link) you will find they support many white-only groups like the Asatru Folk Assembly. The Holy Nation of Odin is a church that is run from a maximum-security cell in California and is only open to whites.
- Volkish/Folkish - Volksfront is a hybrid racist skinhead gang/neo-Nazi group that started in the Pacific Northwest in the 1990s. It’s still a very active group and only alt-right would really use this terminology.
- “ —often termed “folkish” within the community—by viewing Heathenry as an ethnic or racial religion with inherent links to a Germanic race that should be reserved explicitly for people of Northern European descent or white people in general”.
- Not to be confused with folklorist/folklore heathens who practice heathenry because of Scandinavian folklore(i.e. disir, dwarves, etc.).
- HH or 88 - 88 is a white supremacist numerical code for “Heil Hitler.” H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, so 88 = HH = Heil Hitler. One of the most common white supremacist symbols.
- The number is frequently combined with another white supremacist numeric code, 14(shorthand for the so-called “14 Words” slogan: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”) in the form of 1488, 14/88, 14-88, or 8814. - ADL
- Brosatru - I’m mostly adding this because it used to be a popular alt-right subreddit for “Asatru” practitioners that got removed. I’ve still seen it referenced in other pagan subreddits and some twitter profiles!
- General keywords to look out for: heritage, ethnic, aryan, ethno-nationalism, nationalist, tribe
- **Use reasonable doubt for runes and imagery**:
- Othala. While not actually/originally a symbol of hate but a rune for family/ancestry, Othala has been appropriated by the alt-right regardless and should be judged by the context it’s seen in. It is frequently used in nazi marches, merch, and their websites. The U.S. National Socialist Movement replaced the swastika with the Old Norse Othala rune, which was previously used on an SS infantry flag in World War II. So if you see a blog with a red banner and a black Othala in the middle, just know it’s a replacement for the swatsika.
- Algiz. Another Futhark rune appropriated, originally representing the Elk/Divine. It has been adapted by the far right as a “Life Rune”. Used in the “Free American Rally” and “National Alliance” and also used in the “Volksfront” logo. Like Othala it is used to replace the Swatsika in imagery where it’s illegal - it is not used as frequently as Othala.
- Huginn and Muninn. “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, VA featured two flags with Odinns ravens. Here’s the twist: some white supremacist groups claim the Raven flag was flown when Leif Erikson landed in North America in the year 1000 and thus is the “pure European: flag of the nation.” And for some white supremacists, according to David Perry of the University of Minnesota, “the concept of Vinland asserts a historical claim over North America, stretching from the northeast coast to the Pacific Northwest. They use the myth of Vinland to position themselves as righteous defenders in the wars of race and religion they believe are coming.”
- Valknut - It is often considered a symbol of the Norse god Odin. Some white supremacists, particularly racist Odinists, have appropriated the Valknot to use as a racist symbol. Often they use it as a sign that they are willing to give their life to Odin, generally in battle. It was also seen on many shields at the Charlottesville, VA march. Many pagans may also use this symbol, so one should carefully examine it in context rather .
- Tiwaz. Another rune appropriated, originally a rune for the Norse god of justice Ty.r Free America Rally is a loosely-coordinated network of white supremacists who hold protests and rallies on white supremacist-related themes. The logo for Free America Rally is an amalgam of several runes(Algiz and Uruz).
- Mjolnir. This feels horrible to say because I know countless pagans and Marvel fans with Mjolnir necklaces/tattoos. However, I have also encountered many alt-right accounts with a BFG(Bound for Glory) banner or icon.
Additionally, I would highly suggest going through their follows/likes if you can’t find an obvious answer. Most modern Norse pagans who aren’t anti alt-right make it known in their bios but you an do further digging if necessary.
I know this is super petty of me but seriously, the amount of people messaging me and commenting about Mjölnir is driving me wild. Mjölnir is going to be FINE, Stan Lee and Marvel pretty much made it so it will never a major recognized hate symbol. It’s only on the list because I see it on tumblr A LOT. It’s not on the flags at marches, I haven’t seen it on altright twitter/insta profiles - BFG is literally a shadow of what it used to be. Mjölnir is only a recognized hate symbol by the ADL when it includes BFG(or the tunic equivalent). Mjölnir is fine. Again, only included because of the tumblr cesspool.
Y’all need to get up in arms over our runes. Othala is THE recognized hate symbol of the US white-supremacist group. It replaced the swatsika in the 90’s and has been used since. It is used in EVERY march and is incorporated in a lot of neo-Nazi logos. Óðinn sacrificed himself for these runes. He gifted these runes to us, so we could learn and teach. Our runes for family, ancestry, healing, and protection literally stand for hate. People look at Othala, Algiz, and Tiwaz and see h a t e.
^^^^ THIS is the current, official USA flag for the NSM(National Socialist Movement) aka the alt-right. I’ve seen additions/posts saying that only the Othala with wings(link) symbolizes white-supremacy. Maybe in other countries but not in the U.S. I’m sorry but seriously, put Mjölnir aside, every Marvel fan and it’s ties to pop culture will make sure it’s fine. We need to be fighting for our runes or a large portion of our religion will be further tied to antisemitism and racism.
IF YOU ARE A WITCH REBLOG THIS POST
I’m trying to make a sort of “yellowpages of witches. To be in it, please reblog this, and put in the tags your religion. Hopefully, I’ll make a large directory so that we can find each other :)
What an interesting world, indeed.
What Christians walk up to you on the street and offer prayers? Like is this a normal occurrence? Where? I’ve never seen anyone do this lol. Like in Kansas maybe? I don’t even offer to pray for people unless they ask, and witches aren’t supposed to offer spells unless someone asks! I used to be Wiccan. It’s sorta similar but spells are kinda “taking god into your own hands” so to speak which is why Christians aren’t supposed to do it
I’ve gone to restaurants where Christians leave pamphlets instead of tips for the wait staff. It exists, you’re just trying to pretend it doesn’t. But you’re right about Wiccans not being able to do spells unless asked, except they were being hypothetical. We’re not doing that. You are.
Seriously tho… Magick is a gift from God to his children, the denial of it and demonization of it is straight up from the Enemy
Them: All magic is satanic.
Us: Jesus LITERALLY performed alchemy and healing magic regularly, there are instances of divination methods being used IN THE BIBLE, there is an EXPLICIT part where fertility magic is used to increase the size of a herd (WITHOUT calling upon the power of God. They did it themselves! With the power and magic we already have!! And they weren’t condemned or punished for it!!!)
Yes yes yes yeeeeeessssss
@egosvmqvisvm said that witches should start being killed again. Y’all better come get your friend, Catholics.
Things I love about witchcraft:
- It puts me on touch with nature
- It encourages me to take an interest in other cultures and religions
- It inspires me to take part in self-exploration
- It helps me live as a more-in-touch person with myself, Goddess, others and nature
What are your favourite things about witchcraft?
You seem to have some trouble understanding what the Catholic Church teaches about witchcraft, so I’ve included a section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the topic.
There’s no such thing as Catholic witchcraft. Please stop pretending that Christianity and witchcraft are incompatible, and if you’re going to engage in blatantly anti-Christian practices, keep it out of the Catholic tag.
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, due to poor exegesis and hermeneutics, people misunderstand what the Bible shares about witchcraft and what it means to be a witch. I encourage you to do your own research and keep an open mind.
And Catholic witches want to respond?
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, they’re all committing grave sin and turning their backs on God. They deny some of the basic tenets of the Catholic Church, including constantly breaking the first commandment.
@homiesexyal This is an argument I hear a lot, and I’d like to point something out about it. The basis of what you’re saying is solid - we shouldn’t look through the Bible and cherrypick what to believe and what to ignore. That’s absolutely correct. However, using these examples as a “gotcha” is in itself cherrypicking. In chapter 10 of Acts of the Apostles, Peter receives a vision from God wherein he is asked to eat of the unclean animals - shellfish, mammals with cloven feet, etc. He denies three times, and each time God tells him not to call unclean what God has declared clean. Jesus himself reminds us in Chapter 12 of the Gospel of Matthew that it is now what enters or covers our bodies that makes us unclean, but what comes out in our speech and actions and what lives in our hearts. He reminds us to look to the letter of the law, not to the word of it.
Please, don’t cherrypick the Bible in order to tell people not to cherrypick the Bible. It won’t work.
Bitch, your tag says don’t mess with your faith but you’re over here telling people how THEY should practice theirs. I can’t with you. You’re still cherry picking btw. Pulling up a part that just contradicts an earlier stated “law” is cherry picking. You’re saying “we don’t go by that one, we go by this one so we can still eat fish.” I feel so bad for OP.
So here’s what we’re gonna do. I’m going to go back to my faith and seminary formation, and you can go back to your biased views about Christianity that you got from the media and blindly accepted without bothering to look further into. If you have questions and would genuinely like to know what Christians and Catholics are called to believe, I’ll be happy to entertain. If you aren’t willing to listen, I won’t speak.
I propose reissue of the Malleus Maleficarum
You go too far
Nah that’s y’alls go to. Kill everyone you don’t like. Come kill me. I’ve been waiting a while to die. 😂
Things I love about witchcraft:
- It puts me on touch with nature
- It encourages me to take an interest in other cultures and religions
- It inspires me to take part in self-exploration
- It helps me live as a more-in-touch person with myself, Goddess, others and nature
What are your favourite things about witchcraft?
You seem to have some trouble understanding what the Catholic Church teaches about witchcraft, so I’ve included a section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the topic.
There’s no such thing as Catholic witchcraft. Please stop pretending that Christianity and witchcraft are incompatible, and if you’re going to engage in blatantly anti-Christian practices, keep it out of the Catholic tag.
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, due to poor exegesis and hermeneutics, people misunderstand what the Bible shares about witchcraft and what it means to be a witch. I encourage you to do your own research and keep an open mind.
And Catholic witches want to respond?
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, they’re all committing grave sin and turning their backs on God. They deny some of the basic tenets of the Catholic Church, including constantly breaking the first commandment.
@homiesexyal This is an argument I hear a lot, and I’d like to point something out about it. The basis of what you’re saying is solid - we shouldn’t look through the Bible and cherrypick what to believe and what to ignore. That’s absolutely correct. However, using these examples as a “gotcha” is in itself cherrypicking. In chapter 10 of Acts of the Apostles, Peter receives a vision from God wherein he is asked to eat of the unclean animals - shellfish, mammals with cloven feet, etc. He denies three times, and each time God tells him not to call unclean what God has declared clean. Jesus himself reminds us in Chapter 12 of the Gospel of Matthew that it is now what enters or covers our bodies that makes us unclean, but what comes out in our speech and actions and what lives in our hearts. He reminds us to look to the letter of the law, not to the word of it.
Please, don’t cherrypick the Bible in order to tell people not to cherrypick the Bible. It won’t work.
Bitch, your tag says don’t mess with your faith but you’re over here telling people how THEY should practice theirs. I can’t with you. You’re still cherry picking btw. Pulling up a part that just contradicts an earlier stated “law” is cherry picking. You’re saying “we don’t go by that one, we go by this one so we can still eat fish.” I feel so bad for OP.
So here’s what we’re gonna do. I’m going to go back to my faith and seminary formation, and you can go back to your biased views about Christianity that you got from the media and blindly accepted without bothering to look further into. If you have questions and would genuinely like to know what Christians and Catholics are called to believe, I’ll be happy to entertain. If you aren’t willing to listen, I won’t speak.
I propose reissue of the Malleus Maleficarum
Don’t know what that is but I’m sure it’s something that means killing witches 🙄
Things I love about witchcraft:
- It puts me on touch with nature
- It encourages me to take an interest in other cultures and religions
- It inspires me to take part in self-exploration
- It helps me live as a more-in-touch person with myself, Goddess, others and nature
What are your favourite things about witchcraft?
Lol “I’m being prosecuted for my beliefs.” You only wanna go because you know you’re being a dick and hate being called out. What would Jesus say!? I’m from Texas. You don’t get much more Bible Belt than that sweet cheeks, so my “bias” comes from first hand experience you absolute piss ant! You’re called to believe that you didn’t steal pagan shit in the first place. Go fuck yourself. Let people worship how they want to. Y’all are always saying we should have freedom of religion but you just mean Christians, and it shows.
Things I love about witchcraft:
- It puts me on touch with nature
- It encourages me to take an interest in other cultures and religions
- It inspires me to take part in self-exploration
- It helps me live as a more-in-touch person with myself, Goddess, others and nature
What are your favourite things about witchcraft?
You seem to have some trouble understanding what the Catholic Church teaches about witchcraft, so I’ve included a section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the topic.
There’s no such thing as Catholic witchcraft. Please stop pretending that Christianity and witchcraft are incompatible, and if you’re going to engage in blatantly anti-Christian practices, keep it out of the Catholic tag.
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, due to poor exegesis and hermeneutics, people misunderstand what the Bible shares about witchcraft and what it means to be a witch. I encourage you to do your own research and keep an open mind.
And Catholic witches want to respond?
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, they’re all committing grave sin and turning their backs on God. They deny some of the basic tenets of the Catholic Church, including constantly breaking the first commandment.
@homiesexyal This is an argument I hear a lot, and I’d like to point something out about it. The basis of what you’re saying is solid - we shouldn’t look through the Bible and cherrypick what to believe and what to ignore. That’s absolutely correct. However, using these examples as a “gotcha” is in itself cherrypicking. In chapter 10 of Acts of the Apostles, Peter receives a vision from God wherein he is asked to eat of the unclean animals - shellfish, mammals with cloven feet, etc. He denies three times, and each time God tells him not to call unclean what God has declared clean. Jesus himself reminds us in Chapter 12 of the Gospel of Matthew that it is now what enters or covers our bodies that makes us unclean, but what comes out in our speech and actions and what lives in our hearts. He reminds us to look to the letter of the law, not to the word of it.
Please, don’t cherrypick the Bible in order to tell people not to cherrypick the Bible. It won’t work.
Bitch, your tag says don’t mess with your faith but you’re over here telling people how THEY should practice theirs. I can’t with you. You’re still cherry picking btw. Pulling up a part that just contradicts an earlier stated “law” is cherry picking. You’re saying “we don’t go by that one, we go by this one so we can still eat fish.” I feel so bad for OP.
The fact that people think pagans who love crystals and use them in our practice are the same as anti-vaxxing moms who use them to treat mumps baffles me.
We believe in science. Don’t get us mixed up with their nonsense.
Things I love about witchcraft:
- It puts me on touch with nature
- It encourages me to take an interest in other cultures and religions
- It inspires me to take part in self-exploration
- It helps me live as a more-in-touch person with myself, Goddess, others and nature
What are your favourite things about witchcraft?
You seem to have some trouble understanding what the Catholic Church teaches about witchcraft, so I’ve included a section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the topic.
There’s no such thing as Catholic witchcraft. Please stop pretending that Christianity and witchcraft are incompatible, and if you’re going to engage in blatantly anti-Christian practices, keep it out of the Catholic tag.
There are plenty of Catholic witches here on Tumblr. Unfortunately, due to poor exegesis and hermeneutics, people misunderstand what the Bible shares about witchcraft and what it means to be a witch. I encourage you to do your own research and keep an open mind.
And Catholic witches want to respond?
I’m not catholic but they stole a lot of pagan practices and holidays so I don’t know why they couldn’t be combined. This person is a judgmental twat so don’t worry about them.