data-is-my-favorite-android reblogged
I'm finally seeing some not romantic or familial Ghoul and Lucy opinions (thank god) so, my two cents: I have zero protests in terms of the ~moral material but both sides lean on whatever the viewer is putting on it rather than what was actually on screen.
#all excellent points and I agree#i didn't personally sense any obvious romantic or sexual chemistry between them on screen#nor any father/daughter stuff for the reasons op pointed out#their dynamic didn't fall neatly into any of those categories#And I know people like their categories and want to whittle characters down to fit into them#but... that really flattens the dynamism of what's already there and where it can go#and i'm really curious to see where it goes! It's powerful as it is!! Their parallels and foils are so captivating AS IS#i *could* see a romantic angle but ONLY if a LOT of additional character work is done in coming season(s)#Either way the strength of their onscreen dynamic does not rely on a romantic or familial angle to stand up#not everything has to be about shipping#though i do enjoy shipping XD so here's my 2 cents i guess#i'm fortunate that as far as shipping is concerned#i feel like i can't lose because all the options are so good#i love max and lucy they are super super cute! and their relationship is built on mutual respect and desire for happiness and care#i love cooper's relationship with barb especially before she got in too deep with vault tec! It was good and he was crazy about her#and she was crazy about him--so in love with him that she would literally do anything to protect him and janey including the unthinkable#i adore coop's relationship with janey and that he is a through and through family man#dane is a fascinsting character i hope we see more of#and it'd be refreshing to see an onscreen romance with an enby person in a key role#but i def do find it suspicious how many people dismiss or outright punch down on max and barb specifically -__-#oh also when it comes to age gap with any cooper and lucy stuff#i find it interesting how many people are 💯 okay with large age gaps with sexy vampires or fae or whatever#but not when the older partner is disfigured and “ugly” 🤔#there are a lot of reasons why a cooper/lucy dynamic could be a bit yikessss#but they are both adults and the age gap argument feels like a double standard/stretch to me#OH ALSO#i find it kinda creepy how many shippers want Lucy to be this sexually naive baby-adult#yall she has fooled around. WITH HER COUSINS 😬😬 which is super YUCK but canonically true#she was absolutely sexually confident when she climbed aboard her raider husband and rode him like a cowgirl#lucy has FUCKED. She has sexual experience. she is NOT naive about these things and she does not need to be taught