your all lying to yourselves if you think jason didn’t think discowing was the height of style
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fun AU before the red hood reveal, Jasons file had a bunch of stuff hypothesising about parental figures not being adequate in his adolecemt/teenage years and how that could give rise to his behaviors.
Everyone reads it and is like, makes sense. So when the reveal happens everyone just... looks at Bruce.
Currently having fun imagining Jason just pushing himself to the absolute limit in his bomb training, specifically defusing. Head injuries, blood loss, and broken bones, he needs to be able to force himself to get through it
Jason carefully plans things out so all the dominoes fall exactly how he wants them to, but he does it in a way that the outside viewer usually just sees it as him just smashing through the piles causing random destruction
This is also the same case for people he kills. He makes it look impulsive and at random, or an accidental consequence of his destruction, when he actually does know about them beforehand
#just sorta talking myself here#not really fully canon i believe but im having a bit if analysis time#i Do believe it canon that jason tries to make himself look worse than he actually is. or happens to and doesn't correct/rolls with it#does this make sense does it sound about right#jason todd#hes a really big fan of making himself look worse
Imagine a Jason Todd story where there's a flashback/fear toxin about his death, but he's being beaten with the crowbar by Shelia instead of Joker. It would be a very fun way to represent and call out the impact Shelia had on him, as ultimately it was the betrayal of a parent that had more importance and change on Jason overall, imo
And it feels like Shelia gets such little relevance in most flashbacks, often times not even appearing, with the spotlight on the Joker. It would be delightful to have such a visible representation of her role in Jason's death
(To clarify I don't mean make it so Shelia killed him, I mean specifically in dreams/flashbacks/hallucinations to show Shelia in Joker's place, not the actual event)
#jason todd#dc comics#the implication here of course it trying to show jason viewing shelia as the one who killed him#even though she didn't physically attack him herself#i knoww he said he forgives her but cmon. cmonn#the exclusion of shelia and his survival after utrh i theorize are the reason for the joker fear prominence#plus him beijg bigger and more recognizable than some blonde lady#(survival bc jason fearing joker is a neat way to explain off why he hasnt killed him after being shown to be willing and able)#its just such a shame#shelia haywood#theres also importance to her standing by and watching. but just a quick panel of her instead is all i imagine here#im not the biggest fan of making jason scared of the joker. not to the degree i see#not because its bad but because it usually feels like it ends up taking most of the stage in jasons trama and problems w others#batman
Something about deeply suicidal character Jason Todd who usually tries going out fighting or in the self sacrificing hero way + Jason's magic swords tied to his soul where he has to cut himself with them to power them up
#im still gonna use the blades w/o much focus on this bc i like magic jason#but man the route of complete self destruction you COULD go in...#story where jason is going on a magical adventure to destroy some evil with the blades but#hes also clearly just feeling his absolute worst and youre not sure hes gonna survive the run#just go in as a self destructive and self sacrificing hero who is willing to save everyone but themselves#just go all in#nothing but fighting to make sure you die fighting#jason todd#suicide mention#ask to tag#man this does sound like itd make for a great story#im still not that deep in the outlaws comics but i believe ive seen enough of the blades to be basically confident
I imagine Jason didn't fully really see Dick as his brother, that was more like a distant figure. Nightwing who's a hero and very cool and sometimes tells him he's doing a good job. Like? Augh. Putting this into words
He never truly yearned or hoped for Dick to hang out more, to be his brother, to take him on trips in and out of uniform. Like he thought about it, but it just. Didn't seem the realm of possibility. Dick was cool, he liked him, he would've loved to hang out with him more. But the idea having an actual proper relationship never really fully crossed him. He didn't agonise over Dick not being a brother because it just. Didn't come to mind, it didn't seem a possibility, it just wasn't a thing. Why would he expect Dick to be a brother to him, why would he ever expect Dick to hang out with him more
#and OBVIOUSLY when tim comes by jason is like hey. what the fuck.#nightwing could've been my BROTHER? we couldve hung out :(? how come he didn't :(#i dunno it just. there's an extra hit to it yknow? different fun thing where instead of being a distant brother#jason just fully never comprehended he could've been#i dont mean this in a set up for ship way to be clear#i mean it in a. god thinking about dick and tims closer relationship and jasons nonexistent one devastates me all the time for forever#jason is the character i place in the cold snow outside to look into a bright window with a happy and warm family but cannot enter#<- thats not fully related to this specificpost i guess. but man. short stories you read in elementary school thag haunt you for forever hu#uh#jason todd#for filtering rly#brothers in blood where jason sent the note saying we wanted to be family :(
I think Jason felt relieved when he died, comfortable when death started creeping in. Pain buzzing as his consciousness fades. It all just slipping away, stopping, it felt like comfort
He has to sit on a phone book to drive the Batmobile omg...
#dc liveblog#the retroactive was really fun!!#and they were normal about jaybin im so happy#he got to drive the Batmobile into a wall!!! yay!!!!#really fun to see that jaybin immediately started looking for files about the reaper when he came up. prepared lad#and disguises!!!! we got to see them use disguises!!!!!#its so fun i like that we got to see jaybin normally. im so used to post 80s jaybins being called aggressive at least once#so this is a delight#he got to kick some guy in the dick no problem im so happy for him#and its fun to see batman trying to teach him detective skills#i need to reread the 80s comics so bad#jason todd#the art here is nice too
May he rest in peace
#jason todd#dc comics#batman#blood#my art#my dc art#art is so fucked what do you MEAN this took LESS time than the drawing from yesterday. hello. waht. what.#was grasped by the need to draw jason cradled by the statue angel wings#art that forces you to turn your phone brightness up to squint at it because i love drawing really dark drawings my apologies
Bored so you check out what your little brother is doing and end up getting distracted for like an hour
#jason todd#dick grayson#jaybin#jason todd robin#nightwing#dc comics#batman#my art#my dc art#jason may have sounded like a walking advertisement in the titans crossovers but i think its real fun that he collected cards#do you think he had one of those card binders to store em. do you think he collected all kinds of cards#thats what id do if i got adopted by a billionaire. personally.#i was also going to draw like. dick flipping through a card binder. and alone to inply jasons death but i didnt. want to. heart emoji#<3
We should talk more about the fact Jason got swarmed and attacked by a mob as Robin, like??? Hello. He had to be left there because the mob was too violent with Batman near. He had to be taken to the hospital.
Look at those injuries!!
The next time we see him he's forcing himself out of bed and putting on the Robin costume thinking "I've gotta do what I can to help, even if it kills me!"
The next next time we see him he has walked into yet another violent mob
I cannot stop thinking about this story and the effects it probably had on him honestly. Do you think it's made him nervous in crowds, do you think it made him trust others just that bit less. How long do you think he was being attacked before he was found, the scene had cleared. "I've gotta do what I can to help, even if it kills me!",,,,
Just the concept itself! I don't know about you guys but being attacked and grabbed and trampled into unconsciousness sounds absolutely terrifying! Did he black out, still getting hit, thinking he was going to die? Knowing he couldn't defend himself as his injuries to took their toll? At their complete mercy?
#jason todd#jaybin#jason todd robin#comic reference#we need to talk about and acknowledge this so much more its such a fun bit of information n backstory#and i honestly think its a REALLY IMPORTANT jaybin moment. both for him and readers#batman#dc comics#i never see anyone talk about it which is such a shame honestly#fairly confident this is post crisis jaybin. but of course we are in the evil gray area of actually post crisis - before new backstory#but gonna be honest with you guys here i and actual dc writers take from precrisis jaybin alot anyway because he IS still jason#and adds more original comic time for jason#as long at its not like blatantly contradictory i keep a rather lot of his things#and again we are in the grey area of it#plus he calls himself the new robin in the hospital scene so that probably means something#and none of it at all matters anyway because when it comes to comics you do what you want for forever. thumbs up emoji#this is still important anyway. the “ive gotta help even if it kills me!” haunts me#dare i say i wish we talked more about jaybin time in general. like. the stories from it#all i usually hear is ditf and him pushing or not pushing that guy. its a shame i think jaybin has some really fun stories#i think (i think) scarecrow and mad hatter were rogues he faced the most. DEFINITELY scarecrow#two face too if im counting the mad hatter. +plus importance bc twoface he thought killed his dad#he lets himself be kidnapped by two face saying hes the SECOND robin and then insults the guys car#he dresses up as two face once#he saw scarecrow making highly concentrated fear toxin and dumped it on him 😭#sherlock holmes was in a story at some point#its so fun. augh i need to reread jaybin so so bad its so fun i miss it
While I was reading Jaybin comics I decided I wanted him to grow up n sorta act like the Batman he grew up with. Like. Skills and methods wise
I forgot what most notes on it were. However, very notable, Batman and Robin would wear disguises at this time. Like latex mask, "this 4'6 child can dress up as Two Face and it'll work, " disguises. Which are very fun to me and I don't think is as prominent in modern bats (sad)
And considering how Jason does still dress as other people, just without really trying to convince anyone he's that person. I am very much having a delightful time. And also headcanoning that he does other proper disguises too
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So what im taking from lost days is that if not redirected and stalled. Jason's pre growth spurt self would've trained in Batman skills, no guns, explosions, or whatever. and would've tried beating Bruce to death
Would he have still been Red Hooding it. He wouldn't have had the explosions (as prominently) either huh I think
New rogue enters the scene and he very very obviously is actively going through a growth spurt
#his goal? kill batman. he gets close to it but before revealing himself hes like wait fuck this isn't right hold on i need all 3 of us#and comes back later with the joker tied up and continues trying to beat batman to death with batmans own skills#honestly. it is interesting to think about it#like very interesting we should explore this more#but i am glad he went on his murder training#amd then that had to canonically make him like the worlds fastest learner because the timeline was fucked#(jason died 14 to turn 15 and then spent 3 n a half years gone. so hes like 18 when pit#However he is. at most. 2 years older than tim. tim is like 16 during the tower. jason kinda has to be 18#he is 18 when pit#timeline fucked#we gotta make him the FASTEST fucking learner now oh no)#jason todd#ig tim is 16 during tower bc ppl say the 1 year later is when he turns 17 and idk enough to disprove it#and jason cant be younger than 18 because he has that 18th birthday comic pre reveal#i make it so jason got pitted on his birthday. personally. ^v^#give him more time and is fun#also MAN.#going from like 4'6 (or 5'4) to like 6ft? in less than a year?#hell growth spurt#jason todd analysis#?? not rly but whatever
Agony for forever
Batman #426, A Death in the Family 1/4
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Anonymous asked:
Sorry if this is an inappropriate question, but do you think Jason would still have made the decisions he made if he wasn't so isolated from the hero community (implied to be at Bruce's behest in his team ups with the Titans which I believe remained canon)? Jason didn't have a team or close bonds with adult heroes outside of Bruce, do you think he would have made the same decisions if he felt more in the community as opposed to just connected to Bruce? Because you talked about how Jason isolated himself from the hero community and I was wondering if he was ever really truly part of it in a way he might miss.
no that’s a completely legitimate question. In my mind one of the tragedies of Jason’s character is that he never really got the chance to be part of the broader hero community. At least not in the same way that Dick and later Damian did with the Titans, or Tim with young justice. This is in part due to editorial reasons (there wasn’t a push for a whole new wave of young heroes at the time and he was killed before he got any really connections outside of the Bats). And he also didn’t have any support and mentorship from adult heroes (in the same way Roy and Wally had Hal). I find the way he said he always wanted to meet Green Arrow so tragic because in my mind he’s someone who could have helped Jason through what he’d been through. He had died and come back. He is willing to understand and forgive those who kill in exceptional circumstances. He had even been there himself. But by the time they meet he had kidnapped and hurt his daughter Mia and there’s no coming back from that.
So I do believe that he could have joined the hero community after his resurrection is only he didn’t immediately get involved in organised crime and become so brutal. After all a whole bunch of heroes join as adults and still find friendship and even family within the community. But because Jason was so isolated and never got a chance to build connections with them as Robin he didn’t even consider finding support outside of Gotham. (And that is Bruce’s fault, I’m not saying he’s blameless in this situation at all) So he made some bad calls that he lost a lot of goodwill other heroes would have had for him as traumatised and victim blamed ex-sidekick. And the sad thing is I don’t believe Jason even realises how much opportunity and potential he has lost. Not when he never thought he could have had it in the first place.
And god Jason is such a tragic character.
