Peter Hale, the Visionary - Continued

The Peter Hale meta I wrote following the airing of Visionary was ridiculously well received and I am thrilled with the response. I especially appreciate the involvement of all those who have commented, criticized and built upon the original text. It’s great to be able to spark interest and debate!

With almost 7000 notes and immense exposure, I’ve received quite a number of asks posing questions about inconsistencies and contingency issues. In this post, I’m going to address some of the most frequently brought up objections and calls for clarification that I’ve gotten so far.

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i’m sorry

but not really

i’m laughin so hard i;m cry omgggf;ld

#everyone needs to imagine ”hey lil mama let me whisper in your ear” said in Mads’ accent

#can we just stop and appreciate Harry’s face in this scene? #I mean, he’s literally waiting for someone to say something about Hermione’s blood status #she’s the only Muggleborn in the slug club full of purebloods and well known people #and Harry’s there just like “say something I dare you” #and if you look at her face, you can see the actual hesitation and somewhat fear of what will happen next after telling of her parents occupation #Harry truly is acting like Hermione’s big brother, which I absolutely love #i just adore this scene

I love that Neville looks genuinely interested in what hermione’s talking about.

Harry: I wish a motherfucka would talk shit right now Say something, make my day Das right

Remember the cartoon Madeline?

WHAT IS HAPPENING.

IN AN OLD HOUSE IN PARIS, ALL COVERED IN VINES

THERE LIVED A HOBBIT

TW rape, sexual abuse

#oh christ #jackson looks so scared #and derek isn’t intimidating in the same way chris argent is #and it probably hasn’t even crossed his mind that this could have sexual connotations #the way he tries to scare jackson#but it so so does #and it just makes me wonder #why is it that jackson assumes that is what an older male will want with him #teenage boys aren’t socialized to be intimidated of sexual assault in the same way teenage girls are #so what the fuck happened to jackson

um yes?

I mean, we saw the way he was when Derek first attacked him, and the scene where he’s leaning over the car while Chris Argent is fucking pulling at his clothes. And then again in the locker room with Derek and here and there’s always allusions to sexual assault when we see Jackson with older guys. It does kind of make you wonder whether something happened to Jackson.

Huhhh, that’s a good point. I kinda slotted it in with Teen Wolf’s and werewolf mythology’s general trends towards dub-con/non-con and especially with how the Jackson/Lydia arcs are both body-horror and self-image arcs, but then…

Then I start pondering Scott’s reactions, who should at least have more of the dub-con/non-con vibes esp during s1 which was essentially HIS body-horror arc, but. Yeah, not so much if I’m remembering it right. I mean I could be wrong, but it always came off (to me) as more of a DUDE WTF and a non-specific fear.

I’m actually remembering now that one gifset in the hospital with Stiles and Jackson both being cornered by Chris Argent; and they both displayed fear but Stiles swallowed it down and Jackson just went belly up.

I need to rewatch the show again.

I don’t know why that the immediate place that you would go to. I really just see Jackson as a scared child. He’s supposedly 15, so of course he’s going to have this fear about him. He’s not around other people so he let’s his guard down and if you hadn’t noticed, Derek and Chris are kind of intimidating.

Then there’s also that adopted aspect where he’s afraid of other men because of the absence of a father. That whole seeking approval thing that he has could be linked to a fear of actually encountering someone that could possibly be the father figure he’s looking for and letting them down. Mr. Whittemore did state in S2 that they told him that he was adopted meaning that he’s been with them since he was a child so you don’t get the sense that he was abused at home, especially the way they dote on him.

I don’t know. I think his fear comes from a place of loneliness. Something that he can’t figure out why he can’t fill with all the shit that he accumulates or friends that he has. I see Jackson and Derek as two sides of the same coin. They’re looking for the same things. Jackson just isn’t ready to admit that it’s what he wants yet. 

hmmm, a good point. But yeah, that’s what I mean about general fear versus specific fear, but also that dub-con is generally coded for in body-horror and transformation genres (this is the me that went thru a film theory class on horror films speaking, I kinda don’t even know how to unpack the term ‘coding’ and ‘coded for’ to the general audience). For instance, vampire and werewolf stories look and feel different from zombie and apocalypse stories.

This is that strange Schrodinger’s Cat place of subtext and coding; can Matt’s story be metaphor for a rape backstory? Yes. Did it actually happen? Not unless we get writer/showrunner confirmation. Is it likely to have happened given the pattern of Matt’s actions? Iffy tending towards no, because of his pattern of broken.

Ditto with Lydia and Peter, that one was heavily coded towards rape/trauma/abuse (the dragging away, the bed scenes, the touching). And I bring up Lydia in specific because her arc also deals with body-horror, which is intertwined with rape themes.

I think the bit that really made me go, ‘hmm I need to rewatch for Jackson’s reactions’, was that mention of Chris peeling back his collar to look at the scratches, which I recalled when I first watched it as being terribly skeevy and coded.

I saw these moments as a people-scare because I’m projecting again. I hate when anyone encroaches on my personal space, I could punch someone, I could allow someone to punch me, but if it’s someone I don’t know and trust with that in my space? Tense and anxious like crazy. I even reject handshakes not because I’m trying to be an ass, but because I do not want anyone body in my personal space without my absolute consent. So I sort of saw that in the way that Jackson acted, because it’s also people pleaser-esque. By that I mean he’s terrified of making the kind of move that will upset someone else, especially with their attention on him. Which makes a lot of sense because he has adopted parents, and is probably trying to please them twice as much as he would his original parents because he wants to be right.  

Bullying/parenting/but mostly someone saying to themself “You’re not good enough,” ends up causing that sort of thing. I would be surprised if not knowing his parents makes him say that, or even if he had been briefly bullied.