mouthporn.net
#homophobia tw – @coldsaturn on Tumblr
Avatar

ColdSaturn

@coldsaturn / coldsaturn.tumblr.com

THEY DEHUMANIZE THEIR VICTIMS, WE HUMANIZE THE KILLERS. CREDITS: Icon: Ally Hills
Avatar
Anonymous asked:

Hi this isn't an ask more so i just wanted to talk about Aaron Minyard, this is probably gonna be long so there will probably be more parts,, sorry. Anyways i noticed the hatred towards Aaron and his homophobic comments and what not but i actually wanna put my two cents into the whole debate. While I do believe Aaron does have slight undertones of homophobia with how he was raised I also think that the time with Nicky has digressed the outlook. (Part 1)

Throughout the books Aaron has made cruel jabs to Nicky's sexual preference but it's also been said after Nicky says something leery about Neil or someone else, and most times Andrew acts with violence towards Nicky's comments because if how he words them. I feel like though Aaron has no right to use such language it's just the way he speaks. Another part i see people bring up about Aaron is his talk with Neil and ugly that was. (Part 2)
“Neil expected to see censure or disgust in his expression, considering how much grief Aaron gave Nicky for his sexuality, but Aaron's stare was heavy and unreadable.” "Chapter 15 - The King's Men.” This was a scene when Andrew wore Neil's clothes. Aaron didn't look in disgust but he was searching for something my guess was, is if whatever between them was something real. I also think a bit of his protective side over Andrew came out, to figure out Neil's intentions (Part 3)
"Despite his cruel words, his expression was calm and searching.” "Chapter 15 - The King's Men.” A scene where Aaron coaxes Neil into his true emotions. It's the same thing, I feel like here Aaron uses his cruel words to find out what Neil is really thinking, and later in the books Aaron has no problems with Neil anymore, though they for sure don't like eachother he doesn't go out of his way to be an antagonist anymore. He got what he wanted; Neil's true intentions, Katelyn, etc. (Last Part)

Me stepping in the tfc fandom again: has the Aaron wank died already or? 

I completely agree anon-san, like I’ve already said several times, I just can’t reduce his comments to homophobia when there are not one, but 2 big canon variables taking place: 1) Neil hates him and he’s the narrator 2) Nicky and rape jokes are the true OTP of the series. To explain everything with Aaron being homophobic and oppressing Nicky I’d have to force myself to ignore all the context and the ‘exceptions’ that would disprove the theory. And when you have to ignore sections of canon material to follow your own narrative, well, then you have a headcanon, my friend. 

What makes me even more suspicious here is that I don’t see Neil, Nicky, nor Andrew get even 1/372 of the shit Aaron gets for the words he dares to say. Neil is ableist as fuck, Nicky we already know, Andrew straight up murder baits (when he’s not actually trying to commit homicide) everyone he talks to. But everyone is excused because they’re poor cinnamon rolls with a rough past, right? But with Aaron it’s “your past doesn’t justify you being an asshole” Okay then, double standards much. 

I’ll never try to dictate what others perceive as homophobia or not, that’s personal and depends on your boundaries and life experiences etc, feel totally free to hate on Aaron all you want, you do you. But when you assume your headcanon is canon (by twisting and conveniently forgetting and erasing canon material) and on top of it decide to project your hate from the character to that character’s fans, at that point we’re not exchanging meta on a character anymore. 

P.S. Even if Aaron was the most homophobic piece of shit that ever graced the fictional earth people would still have all the rights to like him anyway.  

Avatar
reblogged

“aaron minyard is the worst fox” sounds fake but ok

oh i’m sorry, you don’t believe me? well bud here have some reasons the other foxes are problematic™

Andrew 

  • literally carries knives around which would be fine if he didn’t regularly pull them out and threaten people with them.
  • regularly shoves and hits nicky. sure, you and i both now there’s reasons that he is the way he is, but it doesnt excuse his violence. 
  • there’s also the taking people to a club and drugging them because he doesn’t immediately trust them thing. 
  • the whole “you can’t date anyone and if you do i’ll want them dead” deal
  • regularly attacks people both on meds and sober need i honestly list the specific events
  • fuck it lets list some
  • attacking katelyn in the library, choking out allison, choking out kevin, i could go on
  • cool_motive_still_murder.gif

Neil

  • has definitely killed people on the run (cool_motive_still_murder.gif)
  • “i called you a fucking cripple” bruh
  • neil literally stone cold curving everyone who isnt on the exy team
  • if you can go on and on about how aloof and cold aaron then logically this here is up for judgement too
  • thought allison deserved whatever she got from andrew after she hit aaron
  • to him the only way to get back at riko was murder
  • i hate riko too sharon but do i really have to say again what jake peralta said so well

Nicky 

  • kissing assaulting neil to drug him
  • flirting with other guys despite having a boyfriend
  • i know he has a List™ but neil, matt, and guys at the club aren’t on it
  • genuinely believed andrew was better off manic and high than sober
  • all the predatory jokes (i.e. getting neil drunk enough to “swing”)

Kevin 

  • the probably countless times he’s screamed at the others in practice for not being up to his standard
  • im paraphrasing but he tells neil he shouldnt come out about his relationship with andrew because it will jeopardize his career sooo
  • “what about the line up” dear god
  • “it wasn’t a major loss” dear. god.
  • the general insults out of practice. dude’s literally an asshole.
  • andrew choking the explanation out of him after neil disappears implies kevin wasnt going to tell them that neil had literally just been hauled away to be tortured and killed

Renee

  • murdered a guy and doesn’t regret it
  • also sidenote i doubt Renee would be all that happy you goblins think Aaron is irredeemable

Allison

  • slapping aaron
  • bucko if you think someone giving you attitude is grounds to dish out a bitch slap pls reevaluate yourself
  • the way she talks to the monsters is super nasty like. she’s not friends with them yea i get it but damn some of the comments and insults? allison girl calm down they’re people too
  • on that point treating people like animals just because you don’t understand them is Not Good so jot that down

Matt

  • punches kevin like 7 times c’mon dude

Now, before you get your knickers in a twist: this is in no way a post encouraging you to hate any of these characters. This is simply to show the lapse in logic surrounding hatred of Aaron. It’s highly biased to hate on Aaron for saying shitty things and being aloof or insulting when we only see him the the narrow and unreliable perspective of Neil - we only know what he knows and sees and how he feels about it while reading. You don’t have to like Aaron. You don’t have to love him. He doesn’t have to be your favorite character. Just consider that hating on him doesn’t make sense when other character do much of the same things he is condemned for, as well as having their own flaws. Aaron has a checkered past tragic as any of the other foxes, so he doesn’t deserve the vast amounts of hate so many are so quick to dish out (and fans of his are even less deserving of hateful messages and the like they often receive).

All the foxes are flawed, are problematic, do bad or questionable things. Aaron isn’t the only one who says or does shitty things, so hating on him doesn’t make sense. Stop sending hate to people who like Aaron. Reconsider how you see him. Have a grand day, i guess, too.

Avatar
coldsaturn

I’d add nicky invalidating neil’s sexuality and believing that andrew needed a girlfriend to get better + dan playing right into the prejudice that andrew is always at fault when higgins appears at the beginning of trk 

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

Hi there! I had a quick question - I just finished reading all for the game, and I always just thought Aaron just didnt care to hear about his cousin or brother's sex life, but the fandom seems to be pretty strong in the belief that he's homophobic? You seem to know a lot about the Foxes, what are your thoughts?

welcome into the fandom! if you still haven’t, jump on nora’s extra content HERE and drown in more feels my thoughts about aaron’s perceived homophobia are long and pretty vocal in the fandom, you can read about them HERE and HERE. HERE an addendum on aaron’s reaction to his brother’s relationship.  indeed it’s that sort of thing where each person decides to interpret it in a way or another. some take aaron’s words at face value (therefore he’s homophobic), some consider them in the context of what he’s responding to (nicky’s jokes), some consider him uncomfortable with pda and/or sexual talk (subdivided in those who consider him ace and therefore sex repulsed, and those who consider him ace and simply uncomfortable with nicky’s jokes). we also had a fox, don’t remember who though, commenting that aaron&nicky were exactly like said fox with their friend, and that it was all banter with no hard feelings behind.  so it’s really up to you and your opinion on it. everyone has clearly a different threshold on what is considered hate speech. 

Avatar
reblogged

I’m friends with a lot of people who are internet famous (for their art, for political activism, for their engagement in fandoms, etc) and have a large follower base. I’ve witnessed more than my fair share of them being harassed for the things they do (as well as gotten some of it myself), but the most outrageous stuff always comes from ppl inside their communities.

It’s gotten to the point where you can’t state an opinion anymore without getting hate or worse for it. People forgot over the anonymity of the internet that there is a real life person behind the name, and that being able to disagree as well as listen to someone’s reasoning before throwing them under the bus, is a character strength.

People even go as far as to saying that opening conversations about problematic things and with problematic people is in and of itself wrong and problematic. but if we don’t have dialogue, how are ppl supposed to understand us? or how do we understand them? And if there is no understanding how are we supposed to find solutions and bridge the gap?

Avatar
coldsaturn

thank you for putting it down so beautifully. I’d like to add a personal story to this, because I think it explains how I got my first epiphany about how to face people with different/opposite opinions to mine, and it maybe can let someone relate or offer a useful insight. I hope it won’t be read as me hijacking the post, because that’s absolutely not my intention. if anything I want to add weight on it in support. so, as I already told lio, I was an insufferable teenager that thought she was the shit. that just because I could talk my way out of problems, was fairly smart, and gifted with introspection, I knew more than others, and knew things that were right. I held no moral crown because of this, my right or wrong was a matter as simple as saying “I’m right in saying that the earth is round”. in a way that made me even worse because good luck convincing me of being wrong when I held my opinions as high as ScienceTM, but anyway xD Storytime with etra will be placed under a cut because LONG: 

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

On reynaarellano's tumblr post /159317839985/ there's all the homophobic things aaron has said, you can interpret them as aaron not liking how sexual nicky's comments are and/or disliking andrew/neil, but at face value they're pretty homophobic. I guess it's up to the reader

on that matter they could have taken quotes from my meta too, since my post went in way more detail. they would have found more material to work on. and yes, the point is that you can interpret his words based on how much you consider the context and everything else around him. they definitely have a different take on it than I do, that still doesn’t confirm that he uses slurs. plural. because he didn’t, seth did. unless we’re using a definition of slur that I’m not currently aware of?as for the face value, I don’t know. I’ve had shit said to me for my sexuality all my life, even the subtle “can’t quite accuse you of insulting me because you’ve covered the insult well enough”, and yet aaron didn’t ring me as truly homophobic (because I do take nora’s bg on him as canon, I just think he’s all bark and no bite; and he also barks only with specific triggers) because I was never able to ignore what his comments were attached to: nicky’s rape jokes. this, of course, only reiterates how it’s up to the reader deciding how far he’s going and whether or not he rings a bell to the reader’s personal experiences *shrugs*

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

i see people have started saying that aaron has used homophobic slurs, but i don't remember? i thought it was only seth? o_o

I read the series multiple times, and I’ve read the series specifically looking for all the aaron&nicky dialogues/interactions when I was writing THIS meta (continuation HERE), and the only time aaron went with name calling, was when he was picking up a fight with neil regarding his relationship with his brother, and called him a “flamer” that’s the only instance I’ve found, please correct me if I have missed something else, but as far as I know that’s the only occurrence, and in a very specific context too (where he uses drake to push neil’s reaction; I don’t think he would do that lightly, he was dead serious and on a mission in that moment).  

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

I remember you talking abt a wave of andrew hate in the fandom. do you still know how long that lasted & how it stopped?I'm really tired of the current hate wave,I've gotten anon hate myself&was blocked by people who had previously talked to me a lot but completely dismissed me w/o talking to me abt any reason why i like a character or change my mind about them. it bothers me a lot even when i have support from others. i felt like i was more important than being thrown away like that. I'm tired.

oh anon-san, I’m so sorry you’re going through this. it is indeed infinitely more painful if you don’t go in “I don’t give a fuck” mode completely, even when it’s about people you consider/ed friends. it wasn’t exactly a whole wave as much as occasional posts that called out how unbelievable it was that we excused andrew’s actions and how his relationship with neil is utterly toxic etc. I find that example actually very interesting, so thank you for mentioning it; we have had several waves of antis in the fandom ever since winter 2016, but among them the anti-andrew posts are the most poignant here because of how they stopped. and they didn’t stop after a particular surge of pro-andrew posts defending him, they simply died then and there because it didn’t stick. you see, antis against andrew went after him with the same exact arguments and buzzwords that we see in every anti movement in any fandom. the same exact goal, the same means, you could rearrange sentences and change subjects and you’d have a standard form to attack any even remotely problematic character ever created by human creativity. anti-andrew was a carbon copy of every other anti-argument you’ve possibly grown tired of by now on this hell site. but do you want to know why it didn’t work and the shouts fell on deaf ears? because for an anti-argument to work, the object of hate needs to be carefully chosen. you need people backing you up to raise the echo and make the argument stronger and right by sheer loudness, and how can you do that when you’re attacking one of the favourite characters in a fandom? here I’m thinking about what has been said several times in defence of aaron: “you can’t hate him for the same reasons you love andrew” because that’s exactly the point: the arguments against characters are always the same and always repetitive, so the only difference you have when you attack one or another is how people will react to it based on how popular and loved those characters are. attacking andrew? bad choice, can’t work. attacking aaron? good choice. attacking seth? good choice. attacking nicky? bad choice (and the attempts at talking critically about him, after the very first time, were usually redirected to resentment towards nora for writing him like that). attacking riko? obviously a good choice. attacking ichirou? good choice because no one knows shit about him so whatever you can add him. it doesn’t really matter if you’re talking about antagonists or not, because the arguments against characters are independent from their roles: the point is if they’re unpopular enough to let the filth stick (aaron is hated because he’s homophobic as fuck even though seth was the one throwing slurs and nicky was the one making rape jokes left and right that ticked aaron off, but nicky is loved so aaron loses; wymack throws ableist slurs faster than he chugs alcohol and yet I can count on the fingers of one hand the times he was at least briefly called out on it). so what does this all tell you? that it’s not about you. it will never be. the more I encounter the self-righteous rage of antis across fandoms and the more I see it as a moral masturbatory activity, and then they all pat one other on the back after they’ve shouted how right they are. it’s actually a very fascinating social ritual. you’ll never get out of it unless you start seeing it as the depersonalized movement that it is, because even though they’re coming at you and throwing hate at you right now, it’s not really about you. if it were, you wouldn’t be thrown aside out of the blue by people who were your friends; they can do that because you’re not you anymore, you’re part of the Enemy. it doesn’t matter what you think, what you do, your past together, mutual respect etc. you now are put together with this shapeless mass of enemies who are characterized by buzzwords. you’re not an individual person with their own thoughts anymore, you’re discarded. and this is also why it doesn’t ever work if you try to talk back and point out how contradictory it is to attack fictional abuse by actively abusing real people, because just like every cult and close group with a strong ideology, their belief system is a loop that feeds itself. everything you say that contradicts their system is explained away as part of the system again (example: “you like X and so you’re against all gay people” “but I like X and I’m gay” “no you have internalized homophobia, your opinion doesn’t matter”; “you like X and it harms abuse survivors” “but I like X and I’m a survivor, I’m perfectly fine” “no your coping mechanism is unhealthy and you either stop or you do it where no one is disgustingly forced to see it”). this doesn’t mean that you’re not important. their judgement shouldn’t be considered valid over a lot of things, especially the value of a person. the only thing I can suggest you to do is to discard them just as quickly as they discard you, and keep close to people who offer intelligent insights, who actually offer the chance to learn something either about yourself, or them, or the subject you’re analysing together. because this is not a matter of throwing out different opinions and closing ourselves in echo chambers; Difference is what makes everything interesting and makes us receptive to growth, and I’ve had the pleasure of discussing countless topics with people who saw things extremely differently from me, and their point of view was priceless because it let me understand them, it let us both make the topic deeper and more rational by drawing seemingly opposite logical conclusions. this is worth protecting. I know that it’s exhausting and it stings, but think about it really really hard, and shrug it off, if you can. those people who are attacking you haven’t realised yet that their cult depersonalizes them too, and it will come the time when they will accidentally find themselves on the wrong side of the “battlefield”, and they’ll feel just how insignificant their voice is against a sea of faceless people chanting the same litany and aiming their weapons. you might find yourself around just to say “feels like shit, right?” or maybe to offer a hand in help. 

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

I would honestly like to know why you ship such problematic ships? Incest and pedophilic and shipping ppl with their abusers and shipping Neil with ppl like Aaron and Ichirou (spelling)? I just would like to understand:

so many questions and so many points. let’s go in order. I’ll try to be as extensive as I can considering that I’m running a fever, so forgive me if some parts sound weird xD still, viewer discretion is advised, you readers might not like my opinion. also, it’s long, so I’ll cut it: 1) first of all, I would like to take the opportunity to bounce back a question of my own. you or anyone who wants to answer is welcome to write to me: how did y’all come to pair up incest and pedo? I read it everywhere, it’s the standard message whenever problematic shipping is mentioned: “incest and pedophilia” mind telling me where did you get that link? is it because csa is often perpetrated by family members? but that’s a logical fallacy, not all incest cases are csa, and that’s especially true in fiction. 

Avatar
Avatar
coldsaturn
Anonymous asked:

YES LET'S TALK ABOUT ANDREW'S MORAL COMPASS PLEASE

LET’S but also: SPOILERS (of course) 

like one would think that andrew is actually a hypocrite, because he’s so black&white on some things - to the point that he won’t even allow “harmless” flirt and jokes - and then he will do something that TOTALLY CONTRADICTS that. and you wonder “does he really give a fuck or no” my theory is: not really more in detail: he gives a fuck about what he believes is unacceptable, and not even in actual abstracts that he can then decline in singular cases. no. he’s focused on THAT specific instance, and everything else that others might correlate to it is their problem Title: in which Andrew doesn’t give a relative shit about the, so to say, Habeas Corpus 

So, we know that Andrew’s past has directly and heavily influenced his arc in the series. His past is the key we need to read his actions, and we are forced to backtrack from that chapter in trk, and re-filter all the canon events that led to that moment with that new info. We understand that Andrew wasn’t at all unpredictable, and that he had a clear pattern in mind. 

He acts like he has a certain threshold, behind which actions aren’t considered a problem or a violation of his own rule. That threshold is arbitrary, naturally, and carefully or instinctively chosen after the events that introduced him to the world he sees now. This threshold is made of hands that touch another body. How and why, is what makes a crime punishable with death or something very close, or something not worth Andrew’s attention. Interestingly enough, the how and why isn’t simply “the other gives consent” because even that is susceptible to context and circumstances that will allow Andrew to go over the line. @foxstens mentioned what we come to know about Andrew at the beginning of tfc: “Your lines aren’t his lines, so you can get all huff and puff when he tramps across yours but you’ll never make him understand what he did wrong.” And I find it ironical, to say the least, that this bit of dialogue comes from Nicky, because he can’t see that he is exactly the same. He doesn’t believe what he does is harmful (some will say “for now”, I believe otherwise), and judges Andrew because he invaded his own safe space, so he has a personal reason for feeling attacked (rightfully so). And this is exactly what makes Andrew react as well: someone invading his, or his closed one’s, safe space. 

Andrew can’t stand the thought of someone hitting and/or violating another’s body. This is the very general rule. He will sympathize with people victim of this (Renee, Robin, Nicky, Aaron, Kevin, Neil), even though it’s mostly restricted to people he has close willy-nilly (Nicky, Aaron), or people that come in his field of vision with something he wants (Neil, Kevin, Renee). Robin is a very special case because he will go out of his way to get her, and I think that speaks of his mental state after three of his big promises (Kevin, Neil, Aaron) reach a stable point at the end of the series, together with other big open issues in his life. This general rule has exceptions thoughexception 1. others strike or threaten him first. “Threaten” here has a very broad definition and includes all those times where Andrew felt there was a threat even though that wasn’t the case. Neil was a serious threat to Kevin, so his body will be hit and drugged against his will, and it will be a mean to an end. Rule still in place. Matt was a threat to Aaron, so his body will be drugged against his will, and it will be a mean to an end, and the Rule will still be in place also because Andrew will get his mum’s approval. Allison striked Aaron first.Mat striked Kevin first.Tilda hit Aaron first. Four guys hit Nicky first.on and on exception 2. the touch is non-sexual, and not a strike. Andrew will touch Neil over and over way before he gets an okay from Neil. But it’s a non-sexual touch, and even when it’s threatening it’s not a direct hit (like invading his personal space, bumping shoulders, touching his neck etc). This is also what makes drugging Neil perfectly okay, instead of Nicky kissing him (which was sexual). Same for the other people in his group. exception 3. the touch is a strike or sexual, but there are meta-rules activeRenee and Andrew fighting, Exy and its violence, Neil and Andrew getting it on. This is okay because all the people involved know what they’re getting into, and have agreed on the rules. exception 4. if it’s against Andrew himself

Everything else is completely boring to Andrew. He just doesn’t care. I have a feeling his has interesting thoughts over emotional abuse as well, considering how it falls completely out of his “does it hit the body physically or not” compass. I don’t recall in canon him interacting closely to someone who was abused emotionally and not physically (Nicky’s experience includes the bashing, so he falls into Andrew’s category) (I believe Robin falls in this too because she was kidnapped, which doesn’t apply to exception 2 nor 3; it could have fallen under exception 1 if Robin had been someone else entirely and the kidnapper someone with good reasons), so I have this lack of evidence to back up my curiosity on the matter.   

Avatar

#and about the emotional damage.... kevin?? like he was put down for years and his dependce/attachment to riko? neil's issues later on? I don’t think they apply here because “who was abused emotionally and not physically.” We don’t have a canon example where there wasn’t physical abuse together with emotional, so I can’t form an opinion on Andrew’s thoughts about it, because it will automatically fall in his Rule thanks to the physical side of the abuse (and reason why I mentioned Nicky, who, until the bashing, would have been a perfect example of emotional abuse; but he did get bashed, and that’s where Andrew intervened, so it doesn’t count as a “pure” case anymore). 

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

tbh i'm not actively disputing your 'maybe aaron isn't a homophobe' post bc it's your opinion and you don't need me to tell you you're entitled to it, but a lot of your points do kind of hinge on the fact that since Aaron cares about Nicky he couldn't possibly be homophobic, but there are plenty of gay people living with people who are homophobic but aren't actively awful about it just bc they care for the person, you know?

Hello anon-san, yes, for those wondering what we’re talking about, THIS is the post they’re referring to. You’re right, the entire thing was centred around how Aaron acts with Nicky, and as far as I am concerned, beside those two instances where his words turned nasty, he’s pretty chill, and he definitely cares about Nicky (or patiently bears with his presence? I don’t know, I don’t want to push for feelings that he might not have). Yes again, there are a lot of people who are homophobes but tune it down when loved ones are involved (or even vent their anger and frustration at others since they can’t turn against said loved ones), but my point with the series is: we only know about Aaron with Nicky. I haven’t found text clues about him outside of this dynamic. I can stretch it and consider his exchange with Neil at the end of tkm to be homophobic, but honestly I’m more convinced that he was trying to make a point because of the reasons I already specified in that meta. It is confirmed by Nora that he has learned his homophobia in high school, and my take on it after analysing the series is that it’s just about throwing rude words, in specific situations (inappropriate sexual jokes), while acting completely chill everywhere else. Since we only have text clues about how Aaron is around Nicky, everything else is a headcanon; we don’t know how he is outside of this dynamic. The posts that I have read and that have elicited my research used to enhance and exacerbate Aaron’s homophobia, to the point that I wondered whether it had become a trope, much like Nicky being the biggest andreil shipper (which I have no idea where it came from, beside the fact that the more gay the merrier) (following this, some have the theory that when Aaron says “Nicky thinks you’re hate fucking” he’s making it up just to be an asshole because he’s an asshole).But let me repeat how I’m not trying to convince anyone, that meta was self-indulgent, and made public because different takes on popular opinions are good food for thought. I’m a firm believer of the fact that you can’t force your views on whether something is abusive or not; the people involved have the first and last word on it (without forgetting all the exceptions with mental health, with the law, cultural views and taboos etc, but I can’t make general rules with extreme or very specific cases, that’s a legislator’s problem). So I can’t tell readers who find him homophobic that it’s not as bad as they make it sound, just like I feel that I can’t go to Nicky, who loves his family and sticks close to Aaron through thick and thin, that he needs to get away because he’s toxic, because I don’t have basis to say either. tl;dr It’s a privilege when we can choose our own reality and read things in shades, because when we don’t have that freedom it’s never because we’re in an utopia where things are undoubtedly 100% good, but the complete opposite. So I appreciate everyone’s interpretation of canon, and leave it be *shrugs* 

Avatar

On Aaron’s homophobia

I'm probably already known by some as a firm believer that Aaron is all bark and no bite. I've never read Nicky as uncomfortable around him, and that tells me that he knows too that Aaron is not really against him and/or his sexuality behind his words. 

Aaron never once showed that he thought Nicky was getting what he deserved for his attack, nor that Nicky was to blame for his twin's medication. Once he finds out that Andrew is gay, he doesn't throw a fit but instead takes full advantage of it, drawing a comparison between his girlfriend (the girl he'll ask to marry shortly later) and Neil, and using that to let himself have her.  With Seth's offensive words ringing in my ears, I’ve never stopped feeling like something is off whenever I read Aaron written off as homophobic. It sounds somewhat too easy.  So here I am, actually looking for text clues. Warning: this will get long.  Warning #2: I’m in no way implying that others should stop saying that he’s homophobic. This is totally self-indulgent because I was wondering whether I was missing something from canon every time I read headcanons etc depicting Aaron as openly hostile and on the verge of throwing up whenever Andrew and Neil did something intimate.  Also, I’m picking up canon text clues, but they’re still read by me, so I’m applying my interpretation to them. Others are not only free but also encouraged to do their own work in processing the text. 

Avatar
reblogged
Avatar
winterblues

Do you ever just hurt when you think about all the times Andrew must’ve taken beatings from his mother in Aaron’s stead? And how he almost killed a bunch of guys for being homophobic towards his cousin? How Andrew would literally stab anyone if he saw a mere scratch on Kevin, if Kevin gets a simple paper cut, if a single hair on Kevin’s head is ruffled, but would voluntarily split his own knuckles open without a second thought? It hurts when I think about Andrew’s hands around Kevin’s neck, how he almost blinded himself in pursuit of Neil after he was taken away. His disregard for the terrible, terrible act that had been committed against him, the violation of his own body; while he stared deeply into his brother’s eyes, afraid of the blood he wore that wasn’t even his own. Andrew’s fiercely protective streak could be seen to be just as human as it is perceived to be inhuman because that is how he shows his concern and the warped sense of love and family that he feels towards these people. Andrew Minyard was a victim of brutal abuse and instead of victimizing himself he was only ever so stronger for it. He looked at himself and saw something that was already far beyond saving but he would do anything to keep his inner circle from a similar fate, he would take a thousand beatings if it meant that this makeshift little family he’d found himself a part of didn’t get hurt. He literally never does anything without a reason and his crap sense of morality reflects the sort of awful environment he grew up in. He has killed to protect someone that he loves and I have no doubt that he would do it again. To him, the end justified the means. It’s not a healthy or acceptable way of thinking but for Andrew it was the only way. Yes, there’s no denying he’s messed up. No, he isn’t a good person, not in the basic sense, but he’s good where it counts. And that is just one of 2036372883 reasons why he will forever be a character so very dear to my heart.

Avatar
Anonymous asked:

What's your opinion of Aaron? Regarding Andrew, Nicky and Neil's sexuality?

aaron was kind of a surprise for me, because he grew on me without me noticing. if you asked me this question two years ago, or even one year and a half ago, I would have said “aaron who?” he was a stranger to me, and I totally didn’t care whether he was there or not. then I don’t know how or why it happened, but one day I realised that I actually really really really felt for him. what sealed the deal for me was probably the rarepair neron (or neuron @poze-laceen), which came out this winter and really forced me to understand him. other metas I’ve written where I cleared the timeline for andrew’s and his past only added to the feels I had for him. I think he’s a broken boy trying very hard to rebuild his life from scratch, trying to understand what love means, because he only loved someone who gave back violence and harsh words, and then his next attempt went awfully wrong because the other person not only rejected him completely, but then walked into his life and destroyed that little balance there was. but then turns out that said person did love him for real, but for all the love craving aaron had, it took the form of a car accident and then a funeral, and bruises that were fading on his skin and why did that make him feel so sick? I think he’s a broken boy who’s just now feeling for the first time a selfless and kind love thanks to his girlfriend, and still doesn’t know how he’s going to make everything stick together, because the highs and lows in his life overlap 90% of the time. I think he’s a broken boy that has ambition and talent and intelligence in buckets, and everything in his life has tried to bring him down and convince him that he didn’t deserve a future, he didn’t deserve more than rock bottom, and still he fought. and damn, but he will prove everyone wrong. the second question is about his homophobic lines, isn’t it? quoting nora, his homophobia is a learned behaviour more than anything else, and I think that it shows a lot if you go past his words. I have read nicky being depressed over his parents’ rejection, but not once did I see him being scared or feel threatened by aaron. not once we read aaron saying that nicky had gotten what he deserved with the bashing; not once he shows he resents nicky for “being the cause” of andrew’s drugs. when he found out that his twin was gay (which could have understandably fucked him up, especially considering aaron’s awareness of the bond he and andrew shared “Aaron still saw himself on every inch of Andrew’s skin and in the tiny gestures and tics they shared.” like imagine aaron seeing himself making out with neil), he didn’t reject andrew or try to turn him hetero; he checked that neil wasn’t just fucking around with his brother, and then totally took advantage of the fact to allow katelyn. he could only bet on andrew being really serious about neil, but the clues were all there just like he knew that he had to bet on katelyn because he felt that this was it for him. a fair exchange, one he knew andrew wouldn’t refuse because, again, he knows andrew like he knows himself (which is ironic because he misunderstands andrew SO MUCH through the series, but it’s always in things where rational thought is involved; leave aaron to act and feel completely on instinct, and he will be perfectly in tune with his twin). so I’ve never been worried by aaron’s lines, because despite his words, he has never abandoned nicky nor andrew, and accepts neil in andrew’s life just like andrew has to accept katelyn. I do hope that in the future he will see how useless some of his learned thought-patterns are, but even in canon alone, I was never worried about his reactions. P.S. just a little note on when aaron accused neil of being with andrew because he was an easy target. like, yes, he was baiting neil and daring him to prove him wrong, but also, let’s remember how the last person who treated andrew as an easy target ended up. aaron is legit telling neil that he will kill him if he hurts his brother. 

Avatar
reblogged

More on the Twinyards dynamic, and more Aaron not being the ass everyone thinks he is

Let’s talk about this line from Nicky and Aaron’s reaction to it 

Andrew punched Nicky the first time he said he’d like to get Kevin too wasted to be straight.

Aaron tells him to be less creepy. This is not Aaron being homophobic.

Both of them interpreted the situation as Nicky wanting to date rape Kevin rather than Andrew just being jealous of Nicky. Nicky doesn’t understand why what he said was wrong at all. And now Nicky is going for Neil.

And also “the first time” ? HOW many times did Nicky make these comments? in front of whom? why is he even…????!

This convo happens right before Andrew enteres the scene, and Aaron tells him Nicky is scheming to rape Neil which prompts Andrew to put his knife to Nicky’s ripcage as Nicky is trying to blame it on Neil.

This is telling me that Aaron is instigating Andrew here to stop Nicky being a creep towards Neil, knowing Andrew’s one time punch had made Nicky stop being creepy towards Kevin , but the reaction Aaron is getting from Andrew might not have been the reaction Aaron had hoped for given how silent and tense he is in that moment. 

Avatar
reblogged

Luther and Andrew: The Drake Situation

It never made sense to me why Luther made sure Andrew didn’t go back to Cass after juvie but he didn’t stop her from fostering anymore kids. Andrew makes it pretty clear in TRK that it wasn’t that Luther didn’t think Andrew was lying about Drake but Luther thought Andrew was misunderstanding Drake’s “brotherly affection”. But he still helps his sister, whom he knows has substance abuse issues, take Andrew in rather than let Andrew go back to Cass. Maybe he thinks he’s doing something right by reuniting Tilda and Aaron with Andrew. But my mind keeps circling back to the fact he didn’t think Andrew was lying. He believed Andrew was telling the truth but it’s also clear that he thinks Andrew’s mental state makes him unreliable.

Luther thinks Andrew is telling him what Andrew believes to be true not what’s actually true. Luther thinks Andrew is unable to handle normal relationships. Luther thinks Andrew is projecting his own feelings for Drake outward. Luther thinks Andrew is misunderstanding Drake trying to be a “good older brother” as sexual interest. Luther thinks Andrew is somehow sexually interested in Drake. Maybe Luther thinks that Andrew might have suffered abuse before and now he’s projecting that on an otherwise “healthy brotherly relationship”. So rather than believe Andrew, Luther talks Cass out of trying to adopt him because Andrew has too many issues to work through and it wouldn’t be good for their family. He helps Tilda regain custody of him because surely Andrew has grown out of that. And when Drake comes back he plays into the sad almost brother trying to mend broken relationships. Maybe Drake talks about how he knew Andrew had a crush on and lashed out because Drake only thought of him as a younger brother. Drake talks about how he doesn’t want Andrew to think he hates him. How he wants to forgive Andrew. And it’s everything Luther wants to hear because he has already decided that was the only truth. He allows Drake into his home. Only later does he realize how wrong he’s been.

Avatar
reblogged

Rough-draft-ish timeline for book 1! BTW if you are visual like me, the closest we get to a calendar year for All For the Game is 2006/2007. It’s not 100% accurate, because not all of the dates match up perfectly throughout the whole series, but this is the closest one, with only a few dates off. It diverges in June, so I kept to the book for the rest of June because dates were easy to track; it meets back up with the calendar year in August and so far as I’ve checked sticks pretty close to it for the rest of the series?? The games do at least??

In the days that were too eventful (or I just typed too much for them), I underline the important parts tumblr removed my underlines?? i’ll think of something sorry!!, and for all of it I italicize direct quotes

The Foxhole Court Timeline - Rough Draft Edition

~Friday, April 7 (approx date): Wymack, Kevin, and Andrew come to Arizona to recruit Neil

Thursday, May 11: “Neil Josten” graduates HS

Friday, May 12: Andrew picks Neil up from the airport, he meets Nicky, Aaron, and Abby, sees the court for the first time, moves in with Wymack

Saturday, May 13: Andrew nearly stabs Nicky, Neil exhausts himself trying to score on Andrew

-it gets approximate again here bc it says 5 weeks should pass but only 4 do, so I’m using context to close out the gaps-

~Tuesday, May 30: Neil goes to the court at night for the first time & finds Andrew and Kevin there; Andrew shows Neil the knives hidden in his armbands, beautiful lines such as “exy is just slightly less boring than living is” and “I’m not a math problem” “I’ll still solve you” and “this was a dream he’d have to wake up from eventually” occur

~Wednesday, May 31: Wymack tells Kevin about the district transfer, tells Neil about the Moriyamas, Neil considers running but decides to stay until the match against the Ravens

Thursday, June 1: Raven’s district transfer effective

*Sunday, June 9: foxes move into Fox Tower, Matt offers to kick Kevin’s ass for Neil (and actually does until Andrew stops him), Dan and Renee give Neil tea and cookies like the princesses they are, Andrew goes through Neil’s stuff, Andrew admits for murder w/ no chill instance #1, Neil has a lot of panic attacks and fits of dissociation and decides again to stay because “one of us has to make it” and he’s decided to pick Kevin’s life over his

*Wednesday, June 12: Seth punches Kevin as soon as Andrew leaves for his meeting with Bee

*Friday, June 14: Columbia & all that that disaster entails

*Saturday, June 15: Neil hops out the window, calls Matt to ask him to watch his stuff, hitchhikes/walks home, tells Andrew half (most) of the truth, ends on “Hope was a dangerous and disquieting thing, but he thought perhaps he liked it.”

*Monday, June 17: Kevin comes to take Neil to night practice, but Matt and Seth send him away

*Tuesday, June 18: first night practice!!, “the master?” “Coach Moriyama”; Matt waits up for Neil like the precious and pure human he is

*Wednesday, June 19: Nicky asks Aaron (in German) if he thinks Neil will ever forgive them (it’s literally been 4 days, he needs to chill), and Neil realizes that Andrew didn’t tell the others he can speak German and wonders why

*Friday, June 21: ERC makes the official announcement about Edgar Allen’s district transfer; Seth says my person favorite of his lines: “Tell me, when’s the last time anyone cried for you?”

Wednesday, August 23: Team psych evals w Bee

Thursday, August 24: First day of classes, Matt wakes Neil up for practice and the following killer exchange happens: “I’m fine.” “You say that an awful lot.”

Friday, August 25: Game day, all of the upperclassmen take turns walking Neil to/from classes, Seth and Allison sit with him at lunch and tell him about the Renee/Andrew betting pool, Neil finds out Andrew goes sober on game nights, Nicky apologises for the Columbia thing 

GAME V BRECKENRIDGE JACKALS: Seth and Kevin fight on court 13 minutes into the game (no one took Nicky’s bet so he doesn’t win anything), Neil goes in at 20 minutes for Seth (”Hey Pinnocchio, time to run. This one’s for you.”), Matt punches Gorilla for Kevin and then runs and hides behind Andrew for safety (these nerds are such children I love them), Neil begins to feel a burning hatred for the jackals: “Gorilla had been trying to hurt Kevin’s hand his first day back on the court, which was unbelievably cruel. Neil hoped Matt had bruised some ribs with that punch.”; Neil scores his first goal!!; final score 7-9 loss (not bad tbh), and then the upperclassmen/Neil stay up all night partying like the nerds they are, I love these kids

Saturday, August 26: Kathy’s show, Neil’s 1st time on the bus, “Kevin’s smile was a brittle and bitter thing”; Kevin threatens to cut Neil off from night practices to force him to go on Kathy’s show (and Andrew laughs and calls Neil an idiot); “As complicated as Neil’s obsession with Kevin was, one truth was undeniable: he didn’t want Kevin to hate him.”; “I think of you as one half of a whole.” “At least I have room to stretch out now.” that is a SAVAGE BURN coming from Kevin wow; but then fuckface Riko appears, fuck him 5ever; “Renee was sitting sideways in Andrew’s lap, one foot braced against the ground to keep him from shoving her off”; Neil insults Riko on national television because “his temper couldn’t stomach any more of Riko’s cruelty”; Neil is actually afraid of Riko a little/lot because “Riko had the same stare that his father did: he looked at Neil and saw only flesh that knew how to bleed”; Andrew puts himself between Riko and Neil <3; back at home Andrew punches through his window; “Oh Neil, as unpredictable as he is unreal” wow Andrew you’re falling in love already aren’t you??; “running was only an option when no one was looking” & “You gave your game to Kevin. Give your back to me.”; Columbia: “Let Andrew buy you things if he wants to. He’s not usually the gift-giving type.” & “You’re one of us, which means we’ll never push you farther than you’re willing to go.” ; Andrew disappears for 30 minutes (so he goes and does the do with Roland in the back room!!!); Wymack calls with the news about Seth’s overdose (Andrew, Kevin, and Neil have too much chill about this news “keep up with the conversation” “what about the lineup” “that apathy doesn’t bode well for your sanity”); Andrew gives Neil the key

-end of book 1-

Book 1 covers 18 specific days days and spans ~5months

so @coldsaturn @glenflower and @unidentified-flying-outrage here’s the first draft!

-note: before I was underlining important bits on days when a ton happens, but tumblr disapproves of underlining, so for this one I’m trying out bolding; idk tell me if you have a preference?? these are drafts for a reason I guess-

The Raven King - Rough Timeline/ First Draft

Sunday, August 27: Andrew and Matt get into a fight, Wymack banishes the upperclassmen to Abby’s house and has Neil spend a few nights sleeping on his couch again

Wednesday, August 30: Team minus Allison (& Andrew, at Bee’s) meets for practice, (once Andrew returns) Detective Higgins calls, Andrew loses his shit a lot (”Try and put me on your court and I’ll take myself off it permanently. Fuck your practice, your line-up, and your stupid fucking game.”), Nicky tells the upperclassmen + Neil about Higgins finding Aaron/the Twins revelation, Matt and Dan talk to Neil about trying to help them get an in with Andrew’s group, Dan and Matt help Neil drop 2 classes and fix his schedule, Renee returns banged up from sparring with Andrew

Thursday, August 31: “uncomfortable” practice in which the team has the potential to be unified for the first time, so Dan and Matt feel guilty, and Neil has too much chill again: “Neil wanted to tell them death was no reason to hold back, but he found their humanity interesting. He just hoped they got over it before first serve on Friday.”

Friday, September 1: first away game, Neil is awkward at Allison (”Neil hadn’t been directly responsible for someone’s death in years” & “for all his problems connecting with other people, [Neil] didn’t want to be a monster”), Wymack asks Andrew to play through the entire game, Andrew cuts Kevin for pushing him up against the lockers

GAME AGAINST BELMONTE: Kevin is lovely and actually gives Neil advice about playing through ¾ of the game, Neil does the super dangerous move that nearly dislocates his shoulder to score a point, halftime score 4-4, (“How are you doing?” “I’m fine.” “Thank you for being so predictable, Neil. You just scored me ten bucks with two words.”); Andrew starts playing like he means it, (“Neil had permission to run himself ragged on the offense. Neil was the least experienced person on the team, but he was the fastest and the most desperate. Every minute on the court brought him one minute closer to saying goodbye to Exy forever.” aka this kid never stops making me cry over him for even one second??); Terappin striker attacks Matt and Renee gets involved to pull him off, which gets them all yellow cards (super unfair jfc); Kevin put them in the lead with one minute left on the clock”; Andrew makes an impossible save and literally breaks his racquet in the process (when he tries, he fucking tries), the girls are precious and handle press so that Neil can use their showers (<333) (”Kid, you’re killing me,” Nicky said. “Why do you always get that deer-in-the-headlights look when someone does something nice for you?”) (”Why did you pay for stalls, Coach?” Wymack lifted one shoulder in a shrug. “Maybe I knew you’d need them one day.”); most of the team actually gathers to discuss the game and celebrate on the ride back (Allison and Andrew excluded) (”As he listened to them, Neil realized he was happy. It was such an unexpected and unfamiliar feeling he lost track of the conversation for a minute. He couldn’t remember the last time he’d felt this included or safe.” I can’t stop crying over this kid someone help me)

Tuesday, September 5: the monsters drag Neil out shopping for the banquet, Kevin is an asshole as always (”Stop being a bad influence. I am going to make him Court. It’ll be easier if he remains heterosexual.”); Andrew is very done with people debating Neil’s sexuality (esp. in front of him) (”Come on, Kevin. Even you have to admit this is really weird.” Andrew threw his hands up. “Newsflash, Nicky: Neil isn’t normal.”); trashy lines occur (”You don’t kill people over a game.” “It isn’t a game where I come from.”); Nicky picks out a huge pile of clothes for Neil and uses the p-card to pay for it; Andrew buys Neil a phone and Neil has a very severe panic attack (”He didn’t think a small thing like this should hurt so much, but the grief that punched through him left him in pieces.”) (”I can’t.” It was too ragged and too honest, but Neil couldn’t help it. If he didn’t get rid of that phone he was going to be sick. “Nicky, I–” “Okay, okay,” Nicky said, taking Neil’s hand in both of his. “We’ll figure this out.”); at night practice, Andrew talks to Neil about keeping the phone (”Your phone is ringing,” Andrew said. “You should answer it.” Neil picked it up with numb fingers and opened it. He spared only a second to look at Andrew’s name on the screen before he answered and put it to his ear. “Your parents are dead, you are not fine, and nothing is going to be okay,” Andrew said. “This is not news to you. But from now until May you are still Neil Josten and I am still the man who said he would keep you alive.”); Neil asks Andrew about Higgins’ call (”I don’t like that word.” Neil hesitated. “Extreme?” “Misunderstanding.”); Neil’s speed dial list is: 1 - Andrew, 2 - Kevin, 3 - Wymack, and 4 - Bee (whom he promptly deletes); Neil hides in the bathroom that night in his and Matt’s flat and stares at his phone and probably has a couple more panic attacks because he is smol and broken and lives to make my heart ache

Wednesday, September 6: “Neil’s phone went off the next morning and startled five years off his life expectancy”; Dan texts and Neil barely restrains himself from being salty af; Matt texts twice; Neil gets incredibly angsty about the fact that “phones were for emergencies, not running commentary on a teacher’s boring lecture”; Nicky texts constantly with no signs of stopping

Thursday, September 7: Neil snaps and texts Nicky back: He sat on the stairs of the hall where he had his tutoring session and painstakingly typed a message out. “What happens when you use up all your messages and then need them?” (note that our smol baby fox used a FLIP PHONE to type out all of that and used correct grammar and everything it probably took him like five minutes)

Friday, September 8: away game v USC-Columbia; Nicky gets pissy bc Wymack won’t let them party at Eden’s Twilight so close to the banquet (smart); Neil can finally check his phone “like a normal human being” (”you’re welcome. I just saved you at least two hundred dollars in intensive therapy.” Neil didn’t think Nicky wearing down his guard was something to be grateful for, but he obediently said, “Thank you.” “You ever say that like it’s not a question?” Nicky asked, looking pained.) (me too, Nicky); 

Saturday, September 9: Fall Banquet @ Blackwell University (4 hours away); (Neil tried keeping his cool, but Kevin started losing his the first time they passed a sign pointing out the way to Blackwell. Neil heard his short, ragged breaths as Kevin valiantly fought off a panic attack and it did nothing for Neil’s nerves.); Wymack gives Kevin vodka because the only way to get Kevin through banquets is alcohol (to be fair they’re probably one hell of a trigger for him even without the anticipation of seeing Riko??) (It was alarming how much a man could drink when he needed an emotional crutch. Wymack had to pry the bottle from Kevin’s desperate fingers afterward.); someone (probably paid off by Riko) actually decided to put the Foxes and the Ravens at the same table; I love Jean a lot but I choose sides when he’s threatening Neil; Andrew is beautiful and terrifying and admittedly hilarious on his meds (”Jean,” he said. “Hey, Jean. Jean Valjean. Hey. Hey. Hello.” Jean huffled a little in annoyance but looked at Andrew. Andrew held out his hand and Jean was foolish enough to take it. Andrew’s knuckles went white as he crushed Jean’s hand.); Jean loses track of his thoughts for a moment when he looks at Renee (<333); Neil tries REALLY HARD to not lose his temper (Neil left half-moon marks on the back of Nicky’s hand with his fingernails and counted to ten. He only made it to four before Riko opened his mouth again. “What a coward,” Riko said with exaggerated disappointment. “Just like his mother.” Neil stopped counting.); Neil tears Riko a new asshole and it’s amazing (Neil was too upset to be afraid. He’d have a nervous breakdown later. Right now he leaned forward and looked down the table at Dan, who sat with her face buried in her hands. “Dan, I said please. I tried to be nice.”); Jean drops the “Did you forget who bought you?” line and then becomes hysterical when he realizes neither Kevin nor Neil understands; Kevin finds out who Neil is, has another panic attack, and runs off to get too drunk to care; Andrew literally says “I told you so”; Neil considers running but feels the phone in his pocket and stops; Dan slams her high heels into the crotch of the Raven who is trying to insult her, forever winning my admiration and idolization; first appearance of Tetsuji (He was a legend. He was also a demon: Riko’s abusive uncle and the younger brother of the Moriyama yakuza boss. “Master,” Kevin said, voice catching with fear. “It’s been a while.”); Neil and Riko have their private conversation and Neil accepts his imminent demise and just continues to be a mouthy little shit (”Learn your place. I will never tolerate this level of disrespect from you again. Do you understand?” Neil was already in his coffin. He might as well nail it shut. “Yeah, I understand you’re a complete asshole.”); Andrew is ridiculously pleased by Neil’s stupid phone pun but also by the fact that Neil didn’t run (he’s definitely fall by now right??); Wymack drags Neil home with him after they get back and Neil crashes on his couch

Sunday, September 10: Coach attempts to talk to Neil about the banquet; Neil admits to being a pathological liar; Coach is the best?? (”Sometimes the world feels so big, but then I’m reminded how small it is.” “Big or small, just remember you’re not alone in it.”); Coach flips shit when Neil lets slip Andrew’s theory about Seth’s death and will have none of the victim-blaming bullshit that all of their fucked up mindsets promote; Neil meets Kevin at the court (”Tell me you aren’t really Nathaniel.” Neil tried not to flinch at the sound of his real name and didn’t quite succeed. “Don’t call me that.”); Neil explains how he got here and Kevin explains all of the shit Neil didn’t know before (”You were supposed to be like me,” Kevin said. “You were a gift, another player for the master to train.”); after going over the (shitty) options, Kevin and Neil both accept Neil’s impending demise (”You should be Court.” It was barely a whisper, but it cut Neil to the bone. It was a resentful goodbye to the bright future Kevin had wanted for Neil.) (”Will you still teach me?” Neil asked. Kevin was quiet again, but not for long this time. “Every night.”) (I cry A LOT at this part); Neil asks Kevin what Andrew wants from him badly enough to offer both of them his protection (”I was the first person who ever looked at Andrew and told him he was worth something. When he comes off these drugs and has nothing else to hold him up I will give him something to build his life around.”); Kevin agrees to keep Neil’s secrets from Andrew

~Saturday, September 23: Allison talks to Neil again for the first time (she asks him to pass the ketchup at dinner)

~late September, probably a weekday?: Neil sees Aaron and Katelyn being cutesy at the library; Nicky joins Neil to study and has the talk with him (”You can love Exy all you want, but it’s never gonna love you back.” “So?” “Oh my God.” Nicky looked torn between horror and pity. “Seriously? That might be the saddest thing I’ve ever heard.”); Nicky also tells Neil the story about how Andrew murdered Aaron’s mother and they argue over Aaron’s motives, because Neil’s catching on that Andrew isn’t actually soulless (”Maybe he didn’t kill her for giving him up. Maybe he did it to protect Aaron.” Nicky looked skeptical. “That is a seriously big maybe, Neil.” “Is it?” Neil asked. “Do you remember how Andrew ended up on his medication?” “Yeah,” Nicky said, then went quiet as he thought about it.) 

Thursday, October 12: pep rally with mandatory attendance for the foxes (Wymack kept Neil away from the microphone, not trusting Neil to behave himself.) (Wymack is nobody’s fool.); Dan begins to freak out because she’s not used to dealing with positive attention

Friday, October 13: Kevin doesn’t speak during morning practice; Wymack pulls the team from afternoon classes and hides them away in the stadium; Wymack tells Neil to score at least five points against the Ravens and orders Andrew “for once in your miserable midgety life play like you want us to win”; Riko hugs Kevin before the game (and Andrew has to hit his racquet against the court wall to to make Kevin unfreeze); 

GAME V RAVENS: Jean is up against Kevin; the Ravens score on Andrew two minutes into the game; Matt gets put against Riko and is so exited; Andrew leaves to goal to redirect the ball (to Neil), Neil and Kevin use Raven precision to score the first goal (”Kevin’s smile was fleeting but fierce. He didn’t say anything, but he didn’t have to. It was the first sign of approval Neil had gotten from him since they’d met and Neil felt it like an adrenaline boost.”); Riko scores a foul shot on Andrew and “the game’s sportsmanship died with that shot”; “by the time Neil got elbowed in the face at the forty-four minute mark, every player on the court had a yellow card and one Raven had been kicked off with a red”; Neil scores on the penalty shot and Matt suggests that Neil get elbowed more often if it means they score (Neil says he isn’t a fan of the plan, but let’s be real, he probably would, especially to beat the Ravens); 6-3 (Ravens) at halftime; Andrew is wearing out much quicker than usual and Neil gets angry at himself for not being worth Andrew’s suffering; final score 13-6 (not bad?? against the Ravens??) “the most goals anyone had ever taken from Andrew”; but “the Ravens had taken an incredible one hundred and fifty shots on goal; it was unbelievable that Andrew had only missed thirteen of them”; Kevin says he is satisfied with the foxes and they forget Riko to stare at him in incredulity; Wymack sets Kevin and Neil to playing full games and fixes the lineup

Saturday, October 14: the monster’s go out for early lunch and then Halloween shopping; Dan texts to ask where they’re at; Andrew agrees to let Neil invite the upperclassmen to Eden’s Twilight for Halloween (”I’m asking you to give an inch.” “Give an inch and they’ll take a mile,” Aaron said. “You really think they’re strong enough to take a mile from Andrew?”); Higgins visits to talk to Andrew (”Kids? Kids, plural. You only mentioned one last time, Pig. How many are you talking about? How many has she had?” “You wouldn’t care about the number unless there was something for me to find.”) (”Do you need Renee?” “Oh, Dan,” Andrew said, amused and pitying. He stopped in his doorway to look back at her. “I don’t need anyone. Goodbye.”) (”Andrew hadn’t given away any of Neil’s secrets, so Neil wouldn’t give up his.”); Matt tells Neil about his Columbia trip; Neil is actually going to be a zombie cowboy for Halloween

Friday, October 27: Halloween in Columbia; Bee sends Andrew the picture of her Halloween costume (”What do you have against Betsy?” “She’s a psychiatrist,” Neil said. “I distrust her on principle.”) (”Andrew goes through shrinks like he’s trying to break a world record only he knows about. She’s his eighth one at least.” “Thirteenth,” Andrew said. “She made sure to ask me if I was superstitious.”); Roland accuses Andrew of making friends; Andrew hints about his attraction to Neil and Neil remains intensely oblivious (“Sometimes you’re interesting enough to keep around. Other times you’re so astonishingly stupid I can barely stand the sight of you.” Neil scowled at him. “Forget it.”)

Monday, October 30: Neil actually talks to Renee (Renee laughed. “I should stop betting against Andrew when it comes to you.”); Renee tells Neil her story; Renee tells Neil that Andrew’s gay (and Neil’s first response is “Oh, then he and Kevin–”) (no, little fox, YOU); Neil learns about Thea 

Saturday, November 4: Andrew and Aaron’s birthday; Nicky begs Neil to convince Andrew to attend dinner with Nicky’s parents (”I grew up in that house, but Dad hasn’t let me set foot in it since I came back out of the closet.”) (Just in case anyone was running low on reasons to hate Luther); Andrew tells Neil about Cass (”I went to juvie because she wanted to adopt me.”) (”My own Stephanie Walker, of a sort.”); Andrew tells Neil why he hates Luther (”He said it was a misunderstanding.” The way Andrew went so perfectly still, if only for a second, told Neil he was right. “Shh,” Andrew said, soft like he was reassuring a cornered animal. “Shh, don’t say that. I hate the sound of that word. I warned you once so you’d know better than to use it again.”); Andrew agrees to the dinner if the date is changed and Kevin and Neil also come (”We’re all going to regret this.”); Andrew tells Neil why he killed Aaron’s mother (”Does that frighten you, Neil?” “My first memories are of people dying,” Neil said. “I’m not afraid of you.” “That’s why you’re so interesting,” Andrew said. “How aggravating.”); Nicky’s happiness makes Neil feel like he did a good thing (but he still falls asleep worrying)

Friday, November 10: away game in Florida, Foxes win

Saturday, November 11: day spent driving back to Palmetto State

Sunday, November 12: stop at Exites to get Neil a heavy racquet; Neil and Andrew have real talk (”When they finally take your medicine away, who are you going to hurt, really?” Andrew laughed. “I’m remembering why I don’t like you.” “I’m surprised you forgot.” “I didn’t,” Andrew said. “I just got distracted for a minute there.”) (aka the flirting intensifies); Neil freaks out about the cost of the racquets (my best estimate is that at most they were about $300 each which like?? doesn’t seem terrible for a Kevin Day quality pro racquet??); Andrew wants to use the racquet to bust up Luther’s car (I encourage it the impulse); Maria mixes up Aaron and Andrew because she doesn’t remember that Andrew’s on meds after, you know, saving her son’s life, and Nicky is annoyed af that she doesn’t even care about the twins very much (Nicky is so protective, he’s probably always going to feel super responsible for their well being); Andrew mentions that he’s surprised Nicky’s parents didn’t file a restraining order against him and I would really like to know that story; Andrew is an insouciant little shit and doesn’t pray before the meal; dinner is awkward and Nicky’s parents are awful; Aaron is forced to do most of the talking for everyone’s sake; Andrew quietly threatens Luther to shut up his tirade against (specifically Nicky’s) homosexuality; Andrew and Luther argue, Neil considers and decides against intervening; after too long Neil goes to look for Andrew and pretty much loses it when he hears Luther say that Drake is there; Neil kicks down the door like a fucking bamf; I really don’t need to tell you what happens in the room, because we all know; AARON BASHES IN DRAKE’S SKULL WITH A HEAVY RACQUET (FUCK YEAH); Andrew’s incessant laughter makes Neil sick; Andrew is fiercely concerned for and protective of Aaron and for once Aaron actually also seems to care back A LOT (”Andrew,” Aaron said, desperate and frightened. He held onto Andrew like he thought Andrew would disappear if he let go.) (”Did he touch you?” “What did he–” Andrew knotted his fingers in Aaron’s hair and yanked to shut him up. “Answer me. I said, did he touch you?” “No,” Aaron said.); funny lines should not be allowed to happen in the middle of this pain, and yet: (“I’m going to kill him,” Andrew said. “He’s already dead,” Neil said. “That explains the silence,” Andrew said); Nicky is so upset (The noise he made didn’t sound human. Neil felt it like poison in his veins, but Andrew only laughed.); Luther is so lucky that Andrew can’t move because otherwise he’d be dead for putting Aaron and Nicky at risk (”Hey, Luther,” Andrew said. “Speaking of misunderstandings, am I remembering this wrong, or didn’t you promise me you would talk to Cass? You told me she wasn’t going to foster any more children after me, but apparently she’s had six more since I left juvie.”) (”You put him under the same roof as your son, as my brother. After everything I did to keep them away from each other?”); Aaron definitely agrees with me that Luther should die (he screams a lot); Andrew gives Neil his armbands, Neil sees Andrew’s self-harm scars; Neil didn’t know if this was sheer Fox bad luck, if he’d jinxed all of this by his very presence, or if rape and murder were always this complicated (jfc Neil, yes, they’re pretty complicated in the normal world); Wymack comes to collect them, Neil actually says “I’m fine”, Neil was labeled as a hostile witness (!!) because he’s afraid that if he tries to talk about it, the words will turn to lies (because lies are all he is), and Andrew deserves better; every time Andrew laughs Neil dies inside; Andrew tries to use Neil to distract Bee and they fight (”You helped create this mess. The least you could do is help clean it up. Where’s your sense of responsibility?” A knife wouldn’t hurt this much. […] He wanted to say this wasn’t his fault, but they both knew it was.), Andrew actually chokes Neil until he almost has to fight back and then he tells Neil about Drake’s ideas for Aaron, Neil is 100% dying inside with pain for Andrew’s sake (and it kills me) (Neil flinched. He’d pushed because he needed to see that horrible smile crack. He needed to know if Andrew was screaming behind the euphoria his drugs fed his veins. But Andrew wasn’t, and Neil couldn’t live with that.) (”Better luck next time,” he said. “I warned you once already, didn’t I? I don’t feel anything.” “Anymore,” Neil said, barely a whisper. The old scars up and down Andrew’s wrists were evidence of how far Andrew had to fall to hit this point.) (Basically loving someone who no longer cares about themselves hurts and Neil is no equipped to deal with this much pain on another person’s behalf); Neil runs because he literally can’t handle his emotions (He didn’t know how to face this yet. He didn’t know how to compartmentalize it into something he could tolerate. Maybe he’d figure it out tomorrow. Maybe he’d carry it with him until the Moriyamas killed him. Neil didn’t know. He didn’t want to know. He ran until he couldn’t breathe, but he never stopped hurting.)

Monday, November 13: Neil goes back, wakes when Wymack gets up and they (try to) talk (”I’m fine.” It was out before he could stop it. Wymack didn’t have to say anything. The look on his face said enough. […] “Neil,” Wymack said, “between you and me, I don’t think you’ve ever been fine.”); Andrew sends Neil shopping with Bee (revenge or concern? both? neither?); Betsy tries to talk to Neil and actually brings up that entering the room ‘armed’ could be seen as premeditated murder, Neil wants his racquet back (smol stubborn fox gives no fucks about death) (”Would you want it back?” “Do you have any idea how much it cost?” Neil asked. “Yes, I want it back.” “It wouldn’t bother you that it was used as a murder weapon?” “It didn’t kill anyone important.” “Interesting.”) (Neil’s starting to sound like Kevin?? those are literally Kevin’s words about Seth’s death??); Betsy hands Neil the key to Neil’s car and his brain short circuits; Neil collects Andrew’s knives and dissociates really hard while in the room (smol baby fox); Neil changes out of bloodstained clothes; Neil eavesdrops and tells Bee to commit Andrew so he can go off of his meds (Abby is opposed, Wymack stands with Bee); Nicky is blaming himself, so Neil gives him Wymack’s no-victim-blaming talk; Neil makes breakfast and talks to Kevin so that Nicky has privacy to call Erik (can you imagine getting that phone call? poor guy. everything is pain); Andrew bolts downstairs to check on Kevin, Kevin freaks out when Andrew tells him that he’s being sent away, Neil promises to keep Kevin safe, Neil has Andrew touches his scars as a promise and a truth, Neil tells Andrew his middle name; Andrew checks in on Nicky and gets gone as soon as possible; Wymack is ultimate team Dad (”Look,” Wymack said. “I know I’ve always told you all to take your problems up with Betsy or Abby. I’ve said it’s not my place to get into anything outside the court. I hope you’ve figured out by now I’m just blowing hot air. I’m not real good at being a shoulder, but I do have a working set of ears.” “There’s nothing to say,” Neil said. “Maybe not right now,” Wymack said, “but that offer doesn’t expire.”); Aaron is released on recognizance; Neil tries to manipulate Aaron into understanding why Andrew killed their mother in an attempt to begin mending their issues; Neil drives back to campus; the upperclassmen were good and brought Katelyn for Aaron; Matt’s mom paid Aaron’s bail (”Thank you,” Nicky said, quiet but fervent. “I don’t know why you did it, but–thanks.”); Aaron leaves with Katelyn; Kevin is upset about Andrew’s absence and Neil lays into him (”After everything he’s done and every risk he’s taken for you, you’d better feel the same.” “It’s not that simple,” Kevin started. “Then simplify it.”); everyone (except Renee and Neil) gets super drunk; everyone but Allison sleeps over; Neil sleeps curled up in the corner against the wall so that he can keep an eye on everyone 

Tuesday, November 14: morning practice is pushed back from 8 to 10; most of the NCAA class 1 teams vote to allow the Foxes to continue playing (”I want one lap for every time you’ve ever said the NCAA’s never had your back.” “Oh, Jesus,” Nicky said. “We’ll be running all day.”); the ERC votes to allow them to continue their season

Wednesday, November 15: Aaron shows up for practice, so Neil drives (Matt makes faces); Neil asks Matt to teach him how to fight

Thursday, November 16: Katelyn joins them at the dining hall for dinner

Friday, November 17: game v JD Tornadoes, Foxes win (6 up); the whole team celebrates, Vixens included; Nicky calls Neil his friend and Neil actually has to ask if it’s true (Neil might have apologized, except Nicky reached out and scrubbed a gloved hand through Neil’s hair. “You are going to be the absolute death of me,” Nicky said. “Yeah, kid. We’re friends.”)

Thursday, November 23: Thanksgiving at Abby’s (if you want to cry, think about how Andrew actually wanted to spend it there); Neil’s first Thanksgiving; Nicky explains to Neil that Thanksgiving is “about family. Not necessarily the one we were born with, but the one we chose. This one.”; Kevin offers to go sober and watch Neil if Neil wants to drink (”I only see that look on Neil’s face when someone tries to do something nice for him, but we all know Kevin’s as bratty as they come.”); Nicky tries to convince Neil to sleep over so he doesn’t spend the holiday alone

Monday, November 27: foxes return from break; last week of Exy (fall) season; group dinners continue and Aaron slowly acclimates 

Tuesday, November 28: Katelyn is at group dinner

Wednesday, November 29: group dinner plus four Vixens downtown; a cheerleader (Marissa) sits between Kevin and Neil and flirts with Neil (who does not understand and does not like it; “Neil had taken the outside seat on the bench but he still felt trapped.”); Marissa asks Neil out and is mercilessly shot down (Neil thinks about Andrew while a girl is asking him out) (he is literally wondering if Andrew will still be interested in him once he’s off his meds) (”Do girls need kid-glove treatment? I thought they were tougher than that.” Dan’s grin was approving. “Most of us are. Some of us are like boys, though, and have delicate egos.”); Renee asks Neil to be her date for the banquet, and Matt makes a comment about Neil stealing Andrew’s car and his girl; Matt invites Neil and the monsters to stay with him for Christmas

Friday, December 1: final game of the season (said during the first trip to Exites to be against JD Tornadoes, but the Foxes play the Tornadoes two weeks before, so team unknown, but win assumed)

Friday, December 15: Foxes’ end of semester party

Saturday, December 16: Exy Christmas banquet at Beckenridge (7 hours away); Kevin is nonverbal with nerves and Neil tries to be strong; the Foxes sit with the Wilkes-Meyers Hornets; Palmetto ranks second in the district; Renee is a cool date who understands Neil’s responsibility to Kevin; Riko is literally the worst and Neil is having none of it (”Your insolence has already cost you two teammates.”) (”You’re not part of that family, remember? You’re the cast-off.” He hoped it would hit, but he didn’t realize how deep it would cut. He’d never seen that look on Riko’s face but he knew he’d signed his death warrant.); Jean drags Kevin away and clings onto him for dear life; Riko nearly breaks Neil’s wrist in front of everyone (”I do not care if they see,” Riko said. “A dog who bites his master’s hand deserves to be slaughtered. The location and audience are inconsequential.”); Riko orders Neil to Evermore for Christmas break under threat of Proust, so Neil punches him (twice) and they fight (Riko pulled Neil close one last time before the crowd ripped them away from each other, long enough for him to say, “You just cost him something he didn’t want to lose.”); Neil literally wants to murder Riko and would if he had the means; Neil agrees to go to Castle Evermore; Wymack does not put up with anyone trying to assign Neil sole blame for the fight; Neil tells the team about Riko’s involvement with Drake; the foxes leave the banquet early; Kevin gives Neil his ticket

Sunday, December 17: Neil lies to Matt and Nicky to get out of Christmas plans; Neil has too many possessions to pack in one bag, for the first time in his life; Neil gives Kevin the binder to look after; Neil is put in a window seat and gets anxious; Jean picks him up; the Ravens’ cars are identical except for their serialized license plates (”This isn’t a team,” Neil said. “It’s a cult.”); The Nest is nicely furnished but dark and claustrophobic (The shadows were sucking the air out of the room and Neil was suddenly keenly aware of the weight of the stadium overhead. Neil wasn’t claustrophobic, but he thought two weeks down here might change that.); Kevin’s room is untouched like he still lives there; Jean explains the pair-based system to Neil and asks him not to get them killed on the first day; Neil is switched to back-liner; Neil has full Raven gear with his name on it; Jean tells Neil that Wymack is Kevin’s father; Neil’s new number is four (”Did you know? In Japanese, ‘four’ and ‘death’ sound the same.”); Tetsuji beats Neil until he passes out, Jean wakes him up (by dumping water over his head) after two hours and Neil is forced through a four hour practice (By the time they were finally able to shower Neil could barely move. He didn’t even care that the Raven’s shower room lacked stalls. He knelt on the tiled floor under the spray and let the heat ease some of the pain from his shattered body.); THE RAVENS RUN ON SIXTEEN-HOUR DAYS that is some fucked up psychological brainwashing bullshit I can’t even handle it; Riko tortures Neil (”I am going to love hurting you,” Riko said, “like I loved hurting Kevin.”) and he uses knives yay

Sunday, December 31: Neil wakes up in South Carolina and doesn’t even remember having left Castle Evermore; he is so confused by Jean’s absence; (Getting here was only half the battle. The other half was getting to his feet.); Neil calls Wymack (”Are you all right?” Neil smiled. It felt like it tore his face open. “No. No, I’m not.”); Neil is losing time like whoa; Neil sees his natural looks in the bathroom mirror and stops breathing, Wymack gives him a cigarette to calm him down (”I think I pulled my stitches,” Neil said. “I feel blood.” “Where?” Wymack asked. “Everywhere?” Neil guessed.); Neil finds the 4 tattoo and attempts to knife it off of his face (same, kiddo, I can’t even fault him for trying?) and Wymack has to pin him down to stop him (”Help me,” he said through gritted teeth. “Let me,” Wymack shot back.”); (What does Andrew have to do with this?” “Everything that matters.”); Wymack patches Neil up, and Neil alludes to his life on the run (”Is that enough, Coach? It’s a truth on credit to hold you until spring.”); they watch the ball drop (”I want to make a wish.” “You make wishes on shooting stars,” Wymack said. “New Year’s is for resolutions.” “That’s okay too,” Neil said.); Neil texts the team a Happy New Year (He was their family. They were his. They were worth every cut and bruise and scream.)

-end Book 2-

Note: Andrew spends 55 days at Easthaven, according to my mental math. 

Avatar
coldsaturn

this broke me 

You are using an unsupported browser and things might not work as intended. Please make sure you're using the latest version of Chrome, Firefox, Safari, or Edge.
mouthporn.net