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THEY DEHUMANIZE THEIR VICTIMS, WE HUMANIZE THE KILLERS. CREDITS: Icon: Ally Hills
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Anonymous asked:

I think a big reason people dislike Aaron is because of how homophobic he comes across. It really rubs people the wrong way and sometimes it can be hard to see past that. I mean, sure, all of the foxes are dicks, but save for Seth(fuck Seth) none of them make comments like that.

Without even getting into Seth, Aaron is not the only Fox that makes offensive comments. From just a quick search, here’s

Wymack:

Wymack again:

Neil:

Neil again:

Wymack again:

And again:

Kevin:

Wymack again:

And again:

Neil again:

And I’m sure that’s not all of it.

But no one hates Wymack for using the term retard regularly and calling Andrew a psychotic midget on the regular. No one accuses Wymack of hating Andrew and Neil for using these terms with them.

No one holds Neil accountable for referring to Andrew as a psychotic midget so many times or for calling Kevin a cripple.

Everyone clings to Aaron’s ‘flamer’ comment when he was trying to rile Neil up, but no one really bothers Kevin about the whole Nicky is a bad influence for suggesting Neil might not be straight and if Neil isn’t heterosexual he should hide it thing.

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Anonymous asked:

Hey! Really sorry to bother you with this, but I saw in another ask that you mentioned there was a "hate wave" that hit tfc fandom since Nora left (not because she left, but just since her departure). I'm just wondering about that because I'm fairly new in the fandom and so far I've not seen any hate at all... Should I be scared now? >.>

no bother, don’t worry! and depends on what you ship and who you stan, anon-san, no more and no less than that. oh, and on if you give a fuck at all xD my tag “discourse” HERE contains a few posts on older pages of a few foxes talking about the hate received, but also one of the recent hate waves where I got involved too. or look through the recent posts on tumblr.com/search/coldsaturn or look a bit back on shihoran’s blog (just to make an example) or look at the post the aftgexchange blog had to make because people where being lil shits even when sending out their preferences for the exchange depending on whether you’re new to tumblr fandoms at all or not, you can imagine what will make someone more prone to receiving hate and call out posts and vagueing mocking texts in the fandom tag. things that will make antis’ alarm go off:- rarepair ships- ships that break canon ships - ships that change canon or major fanon sexual orientations - talking about riko in any way that isn’t laughing at his death. you buy a ticket for an anti in your inbox if you build him up as a flawed human and explore his character in any setting and AU- talking about the Bad Guys: Riko, Ichirou, Aaron, Seth - exploring abusive relationships in abusive form, but also canon abusive relationships in a non abusive setting (riko/kevin for example)- anything even remotely resembling incest even when it’s not (like andrew/neil/aaron ; aaron and andrew don’t interact sexually with each other)- not buying major fanon things: aaron’s homophobia is worse than murder, any ship with ichirou is abusive even if we know shit about him, seth is a demon and must not be named, renee and allison are lesbians and together- age gap ships (wymack with any of the foxes)- daddy kink (this one was easy to guess)- de-aging trope- BDSM & kink is a delicate topic as usual because you don’t know when you’ll find an anti-kink accusing you of being abusive this is for the things that happened in fandom already. my mental list of things that would give antis a field day is way longer, and I’m still debating whether my spite surpasses my laziness. it might. anyway, if you conform to the fandom standard of Unproblematicness you’ll be fine. if you don’t, depends if you give a flying fuck what others say about what you’re allowed to write/think. a good number of foxes who wanted to be free to write whatever they wanted left the fandom for private spaces that were safer, but there are many of us still here to make a point that fandom won’t be polished, and any fox is welcome here. do what you need to do for your safety, anon. if you decide to go against the current, you won’t be alone. if you decide to play it safely (or maybe if you’re genuinely baffled at the list above and actually perfectly agree that this content should never see the light of day) then you’ll be just fine. it helps if you insult any of us bad shippers in the tag when a call out post is made, it will show where your loyalties lie. P.S. I’d like to tell you if there’s a fixed pattern for bigger and smaller blogs, but there is not. Some smaller blogs are ignored, some others are hit. Some bigger blogs are ignored, others are hit. 

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Anonymous asked:

I mean, I love ace-spec Aaron either way, but is there any canon evidence of it? Asking because that would be great.

since like, i’m too lazy to actually do an entire post dedicated to pointing out every single quote and line, here’s a comprehensive list that i can reference. i know it comments a lot on aaron’s “””homophobia””” but, i can definitely use it as a starting point on all of this.

my main starting point here is every single time nicky talks about things sexually. like, not just in that way he makes really sleazy jokes that makes aaron react, it’s the fact that he makes sexual jokes anyway.

many people point this out to be homophobic, but as someone in the ace-spectrum, it’s kind of… offensive? literally, no one needs to make that many sexual jokes, especially not that graphic and/or creepy. like, the occasional joke is fine, but if every point of the conversation is a sex joke, you can just. shut your mouth. we’re not policing you, we’re just really not able to relate, and with aaron’s incredible lack of nicety filter, it’s easy to see him policing nicky on his sex joke quota.

me and sam talk about this a lot, and we deduced that, if looked at in the angle of him being ace, everyone would really really understand why he gets incredibly uncomfortable about the amount of sex jokes.

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Just something that’s been on my mind. Tumblr has this specific way of handling communities. These are just the ones that come by on my dash, I’m sure there are plenty more examples.

First they start out nice, tolerant, willing to listen and learn.

But they quickly become too nice and tolerant. Rather than simply accepting group X, they begin to overglorify them. They make them into something more special than people outside of group X, and coupled with their compulsive need to belong and feel special, desire to be a part of it too.

In comes the appropriation. If they can’t be a part of it, they’ll make themselves a part of it, one way or another. And is someone in group X not acting the way their fantasy version of them acts? Call them out on it!

They become so fanatical that they begin to talk over, or drive out the original people of group X.

And then finally they manage to become so hateful, their initial tolerance has turned into cold, terrifying intolerance. Calling gay/trans men privileged over white straight cis women, telling transsexual people to die, purposefully triggering people they dislike into panic attacks, defending Muslims to the point of calling the attack on Charlie Hebdo justified. And sending death threats to anyone who dares to disagree.

Being excluded from a group or community because you don’t belong there is not oppression.

It simply means that group does not describe or fit you as an individual.

If you can’t accept that, you have far deeper issues than your imagined ‘oppression’.

Inb4 tons of hate messages and death threats.

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A Discussion on Aaron’s Character Arc

Let’s begin with…

Aaron’s personal stake in the story: Aaron wants someone to love him because his mother never did, but the pact he made with his brother to stay by each other’s side and not let anyone close (in hopes that Andrew would fill that missing role) gets in the way when Aaron falls in love with a girl who does.

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Oh god this is everything I ever wanted bless you <3  I’d like to add/point out the small detail (not necessary, but I always get ASKJDHASLKD when I think about it as plot point) that Aaron’s mother turned abusive toward him only after Andrew came into the picture. Andrew, in Aaron’s backstory but also the present of the book, is both the poison and the cure at the same time, and I think that a lot of Aaron’s conflict with his brother comes from the fact that cause&effect are mixed up, and Aaron’s stuck in a loop (Andrew saved him from his mother, but he needed saving only because Andrew showed that he existed, but Aaron wanted to meet him so much so maybe it’s his own fault but he couldn’t have known and things could have gone differently, maybe it’s his mother’s fault and his own fault and Andrew’s fault). All this without even touching how much knowing about Drake and Andrew’s reasoning behind his actions complicated the picture. Another thing that I find interesting about them is that I don’t think Aaron was all that passive in accepting Andrew’s deal and then letting him “control” his life. First thing, Andrew is too obsessed with consent with his closed ones, I can’t see him overstepping his bounds. He’s always been clear with Aaron, and has always given him the chance to back off. Aaron is the one who didn’t take seriously their deal. Second thing, Andrew offered Aaron to keep their deal after high school once they graduated, and Aaron accepted. So yes, I think that Aaron deeply needs someone to love him, and he can’t shake off that undeniable pull he felt the first time he found out about Andrew (back to the last paragraph, the added conflict of what he thought of his mother for doing something like that, assuming that Tilda wasn’t doing such a disastrous job as a mother till then), to the point that even after everything, even when he’s fighting between numbness and hate, he can’t, won’t, and doesn’t want to leave his brother’s side. The depth and complexity of his feelings (and his character in general) toward his brother are incredible, and chapeau to Nora for giving us all the hints to connect the dots even through Neil’s incredibly biased point of view.  P.S. Added bonus to his complexity as a character: he’s known for his homophobic lines, but I don’t recall Nicky ever showing being uncomfortable around him (please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m working with memory). Even with Nicky’s past, both the one with his parents and the assault at Eden’s, he never stopped being himself in front of Aaron, never acted as though he felt targeted or rejected or a stranger in the family (if anything, I think both Nicky and Aaron have very similar views on how important Family is). This not to excuse his attitude, far from it, just to understand him. Nora has confirmed that his homophobia is a learned behaviour, and through the books we also see that it’s confined in the realm of words (he never acts against Nicky and Andrew for being gay; I don’t recall him agreeing with Nicky’s parents in TRK but I might be missing his parts?) (I can accept the reply that instigating Andrew to attack Nicky for the rape joke is an indirect act, but considering that situation I don’t know who was more in the wrong; plus I have an inkling that his focus was on pushing their buttons, not making a point against Nicky’s sexuality). It’s possible that Nicky knows that his homophobia is a habit - which can be unlearned - through copious exposition if you ask Nicky - and that he’s not a danger.

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