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What.
HOW??
Edit:
The perfect amount of notes…
There's a difference between "I don't interpret this story as romantic" and "I'm weird about women". You've admitted yourself you don't care about the Princess and obsess over the voices, and I've never seen you acknowledge the fact that the protagonist hurts the princess as well.
First of all: Those are bold words to say to someone who’s first and favourite ending was and is the Leave Together Stranger one! (I jest, I jest, but seriously-)
Second of all:
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I don't understand how you came to that conclusion? Where did I say that the protagonist doesn’t hurt the princesses?? Or that I don’t care about the Princesses? I’m genuinely confused. In my posts, I’ve never mentioned the princess hurting the protagonist (besides my one moment of clarity post). The only place I bring up the princess hurting the protagonist is in my fanfic. For clarification: My fic also has the protagonist hurt the princess, which creates a downwards spiral that leads to the Unending Dawn ending.
Third of all: I said I prefer the most of the voices over most of the princesses. There’s a big leap to go from “This person likes the voices better because they appear more often so its easier to get attached to them” to “This person is weird about women.”
Chapter III: False awakening
Merging route of Tower and Nightmare. She appears to be finally free from her confinement, and already brought an end to everything. Although it's only a reflection of players delusions about how the end of the world should look like.
To get to her chapter player has to either die in the presence of Nightmare bysimply giving (+broken) up or distracting Paranoid from doing his job(+contrarian), or,alternatively, leave Tower's basement after trying to defy her without bringing a knife(+paranoid).
After realizing that she is still trapped in the construct, princess gets claimed by the Shifting Mound.
You!
How did you project this idea into my dreams before I even saw this post??
I may be thinking about the Pristine Cut too much. I had a dream about a potential added chapter 3.
For those curious, it was a chapter gained either via Nightmare (by not Heart Lungs Liver Nerves and letting the Nightmare kill you, getting Broken) or by Tower (using the last of your power to just. Turn away. Getting Contrarian). Don’t remember what it’s called but the room in that one looked like an alter that kept fading in and out. Princess looked mostly like the tower, but was also fading in and out with some nightmare features.
Also, for the record, I think Narrator isn't that different from Shifty in terms of personality.
It's just that they have exact opposite views. And neither of them can really break away from those views easily or accept others' views easily.
It's funny, people think of him as an opposite to Shifty, but in reality they're actually very similar. But it's ironically because of their similarities that they cannot get along.
And in making Quiet as an opposite to Shifty, he actually made someone that can get along with her better.
In fact, they look like so much time that both of them express a desire to see the world free of suffering. But in very different ways.
The Narrator seeks to get rid of the Ebb and Flow of the Universe because it will inevitably lead to Death, and thus Oblivion, which he sees as the greatest of all sufferings. To be able to build something of yourself and of others, to see it all flourish, just to then witness all your work being cast away eventually by the whims of something greater, of something that will never comprehend the pain of seeing it all go without being able to do anything, it is torture. And so he wants to keep it all things static, a blissful, boring blur, where all things are allowed to exist and keep on existing forever, where all things are possible because Death is no longer looming above anyone. I think enough has been said about how much of a fool's errand his wish is; this is just not how the world works or should work, conflict and struggle and suffering are, wanting or not, intrinsic to the concept of Life, too. And then there's The Shifting Mound, an entity who thrives in conflict and struggle, to the point that the pain these concepts are bound to bring with them are not seen by Her as a curse, but as a blessing. "Through conflict, we carve meaning". Growing pains will always happen, but they are the proof that we build our strength, our resilience, our will to thrive against all odds, and this is beautiful even in its ugliness! Suffering as it is feels delusional to Her because it is seen as this great disaster to be avoided at all costs, but to Her is merely another step you must overcome to reach new heights, and to succumb to such a concept is to languish in stagnation, unhealed and regressed, to fail to move forward and carve Life with the contours of your experience. In Her eyes, people must change how they approach suffering to see it as an opportunity, not an obstacle. But this is the point in which She fails, because as you can point out to Her during the fight, it is so much easier to scoff suffering when you get to stand above it, isn't it? Suffering isn't delusional, suffering exists, and it is not always a stepladder to growth - many times, suffering is just suffering, ugly and cruel and unnecessary, and it does break people, doesn't make them better or stronger or kinder or fiercer, it just makes them worse.
I read your STP fic and I think it’s the most negative I’ve seen anyone say about Slay the Princess. I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’s greatly written and encapsulates emotions well, but most of the STP fandom talks about how well-written and complex it is and now I realise it isn’t. I guess every media has its flaws.
Thanks!(?) I do enjoy the game, absolutely, but I also enjoy giving the LQ a vacation after it because they absolutely deserve one. I feel like it’s my own fault for liking the voices more than the princesses-
I know my fic definitely did come across as negative, since, well… it ends with getting the Unending Dawn ending- then again, the creators probably included that ending for a reason, and they did say that they don’t see any ending as more canon than the other.
Is it bad that I’m hoping the Pristine Cut allows us to just… pretend we don’t remember the previous chapters? Just to confuse the Voices and Princess. And the Narrator since he knows we should know if we started again.
Is. Is it bad I want the Pristine Cut to make it so the Hero’s dialogue when he shows up at the end changes depending on whether or not the player got the Moment Of Clarity or not?
I actually think of the Damsel as one of the more narrative-savvy Princesses, up with Tower and Prisoner—Tower's the only one to actually come out and say it, but Prisoner clearly knows enough about how things are supposed to work to pull one over on the Narrator (actually, come to think of it, she knows enough about how things work to know she needs to pull one over on the Narrator). And then there's the Damsel.
The Tower says that even though she could break her chains herself, it doesn't make for the "right kind of story." Even though she has so much power over the player by this point, she still needs the story to be fulfilled in the way it's supposed to be. She needs the player to be the one to free her.
It's a bit similar with Damsel, though you could make the argument that it doesn't occur to her that she could leave her chains until you try to free her—Smitten's line about us needing to "present her with her freedom" could be read either way, and he's not necessarily reliable anyway.
But then the Narrator locks you in the basement, and she says, outright, "We're supposed to leave now." There's a way this story is supposed to go, and she understands what it is. And then a couple lines later, you ask her if she can open the door, and she says this:
"I don't know. Do you think I can?"
It's almost as though she's aware on some level that what she can do is determined by your perception of her. If you think she can open the door, she can open it. If not... maybe she can't. Most, if not all (I'm not putting that much stock in my own memory) of the other Princesses don't show any awareness of how dependent they are on perception. But she gets it, somehow.
How dare you leave those in the tags, @golvio.
“Corvid” this, “Mothman” that.
Why has no one realised The Long Quiet and/or The Narrator is CLEARLY a giant Microraptor.
A one shot at 2,535 words, featuring The Long Quiet and their journey to their New, Unending Dawn.
My current plan for when the full game releases.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN’T LEAVE THE CABIN WITH ANY OF THEM?!?
IKR??? Like I get and highly respect Hero’s reasoning (bro respects boundaries and I love him), but NOOOO THE GANG’S SPLITTEN UP D:
Thinking of Birdman without his voice buddies feels odd after all that
This is why I made an AU where they get their own bodies somehow and are basically Quiet’s chaotic cousins post-ending
Canon is a guideline that fanfics don’t have to follow XD
…That gives me a horrible fantastic idea for an Unending Dawn fic.
The Long Quiet hugs Hero?
Like, he deserves it. Bro comes in clutch in so many runs and is one of the few constants in all of ‘em, being one of the beings, other than the Shifting Mound herself, that most understands Quiet + their struggles (at least imo, Hero’s my blorbo so I’m probs a bit biased lol)
absolutely if anyone deserves a hug its Hero, shout out to that time he told us we cant do it alone and lucky for us he's not gonna let us try.....
My current plan for when the full game releases.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN’T LEAVE THE CABIN WITH ANY OF THEM?!?
Current Dumb Idea: Voice of the Nihilist.
What you get if you ask the narrator ‘What if I want the world to end?’ And then save the princess without hesitation.
Welp, I feel catered to.
