ChazTalk

I’ve just seen a Romione shipper say Hermione is mid in attractiveness/looks (which just goes to show how they want to make her average-looking so it’s easier to self-insert themselves as her imo). To be honest, I personally wouldn’t find Hermione attractive in the HP universe. Canon says otherwise. It’s first apparent that Neville showed in interest in her, Viktor Krum showed an interest in her, Cormac McLaggen showed an interest in her, Harry described her as a “pretty girl” at the Yule Ball, Draco couldn’t find an insult to give her when he saw her at the Yule Ball (teeny tiny part that says a lot), and then there’s the drunk who hit on her in DH.

And most of this interest was gained after her teeth got resized to normal. And I think it’s more telling how specific these are compared to Ginny suddenly becoming the hottest girl at Hogwarts. And it’s a lot more realistic to think that a handful of people think someone is attractive instead of an entire school, especially in a world with a limited number of people, cuz of a difference in opinion/tastes in what one finds attractive of course.

In conclusion, Hermione is attractive, and canon does nothing to refute otherwise.

Exactly opposite. Romione shippers see Hermione as she is in books. Aka average looking. Because they love canon Hermione. All wild hair, large front teeth, intelligent and smart. Who panics under pressure and has crippling anxiety about her exams. Who is ferociously loyal and steadfast.

It's fanon shippers who want to glam up Hermione because average homely looking Hermione isn't good enough for their fuck toy self insert fanfictions. Dramione fanarts always depict Hermione as a curvy sexy model like girl so do harmony fanarts. They distort her character both regarding personality and looks SO MUCH that 95% time I don't even recognise her after seeing an art. I always go like 'whotf is this' then I check the tags and it's supposed to be Hermione and Draco/Harry. Lmao.

Not to mention most of us don't picture Emma Watson as Hermione. We also hate movies. While most of the dramione harmony fans are obsessed with the relationship between Daniel Emma and Tom Emma and ofcourse their movie versions.

People who adore book Hermione are 90% are romione shippers while people who say stuff like 'Emma Watson was born to be Hermione' are Harmony dramione shippers. Why? Because Emma Watson is more good looking than book Hermione 🤣🤣

None of what you typed actually refuted my argument. All you just said is that fanon perceives her as some supermodel, how basically everyone who isn’t a Romione shipper sees Emma Watson as Hermione, how Dramione and Harmione shippers are obsessed with Tom/Emma or Dan/Emma (even though there’s literally a Romione fan page called romione_grintson), how it’s Dramione and Harmione fanartists that make a curvy, super attractive Hermione (even though I’ve seen Romione fanart where the artists use Rupert and Emma as their base for Ron and Hermione, and let’s not even get into the ai art y’all obsess over).

What does all of this have to do with my original post? Absolutely nothing. I used canon proof to show how she is perceived in canon, and you screamed fanon. And in your first paragraph, you only listed one unattractive quality about her and that was gone after book 4 lol

You said romione shippers use her as a self insert and claim she is average. Well she is. All three harry Ron and Hermione are supposed to be average looking. Sorry to burst your bubble but JKR said it herself.

And among all the Hermione ships romione is the least sexualized Hermione ship. That should be your 1st clue that it's not a self insert even though it would be 1000 times more in character than Harmony or dramione even if we self inserted as her. Yk why? Bcz it's canon Hermione desires Ron, marries him and he breeds her. While Harmony dramione don't exist outside of ffnet and AO3 Lol

One of the ways to tell if someone self inserts themselves into a ship is asking the hypothetical “if you were Hermione, between Harry and Ron, who would be your best friend, soulmate, husband” but I don’t need to cuz I already know how you’d answer that.

So I don’t need you to try to explain how Romione shippers don’t insert themselves as Hermione cuz it’s the “least sexualized Hermione ship”, according to the Romione shipper. I already know you are one.

In conclusion, Hermione’s attractive per the books, and idk why you have a problem with that.

Yeah because saying 'if I were harry' is clearly doing a self insert and not analysing the situation from your own pov. But do what I expect from you anyway? You spend more time bitchin about romione than focusing on your own ship. Lmao

I see no denial in what I said, so point for me.

And I don’t “bitch” about Romione. I moreso bitch about their shippers that lie and distort about Harry and Hermione, be it their friendship or their romantic potential, which gives me fuel for my ship, and occasionally when people have “bad opinions” on Harry and Hermione individually, so thanks for that!😁

you can’t convince me that people actually ship harry and hermione based off the book material. like how?? there is absolutely nothing there. they act like siblings more than anything else. the unconditional love is there bc it’s like familial love! harry basically says point blank that he doesn’t have fun when it’s just her and him, and that he’s Bored!!. like???

Yes, we do exist. Unlike what you think, there’s far more book material on them than in the movies, and far more material than the main canon ships.

I’d like to know when and where Harry says that he’s generally bored of Hermione; not when he’s doing nothing but studying with Hermione for the Tri-Wizard tournament to save his life. I’d also like to know how much fun Ron would have in Harry’s place studying with Hermione.

We don’t think much of that scene you made up, which is a common thing people who don’t like Harmione bring up. We look in to the deep bond they have (which you think is nothing but familial). We just think it’s something deeper.