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owlbelly

so. i understand where the sentiment "listening to an audiobook is the same thing as reading the book" is coming from - i mean, yes, the bottom line is you are taking in the same words in what is possibly a more accessible (or maybe just more enjoyable) format for you! and i'm 100% in agreement that "book snobs" who say "no you didn't really read it" if you listened to the audiobook are full of shit. ofc you should engage with stories in whatever way works for you, there is no moral or intellectual superiority to reading words off a page vs. listening to them

but it also is different? an audiobook is a performance. choices a narrator makes about line readings can drastically influence the meaning of the lines. even just different voices, accents, etc. - there are creative choices being made by the person delivering the words to you, and that affects your experience of the story in a different way than if you were making those choices in your own head. it might even change the way you visualize what's going on!

this isn't a bad thing it's just An Actual Thing & i think it's worth talking about. it rubs me the wrong way when people act like accommodations (and for many people audiobooks are an accommodation) always result in a completely identical experience, or even that they should, & if you suggest that people accessing media in different ways are having different experiences it's somehow ableist

anyway on rare occasions i really enjoy audiobooks but mostly they are much less accessible to me than words on a page (i need to be able to reread, flip back and forth, go at my own pace) & i also just really strongly prefer to encounter a text on my own before hearing someone else's performance of it, if possible! again i don't think it's "better" to read a physical book i just think it is a Distinct form of experiencing a story & acting like the two things are entirely the same is sort of doing a disservice to both

Good points, and (in my limited experience) I’ve found that making audio adaptations is a very different experience too - someone came to me with a proposal to do an audio/motion comic version of Replaceable Parts, and it was fascinating to take their direction as I recorded my cameo as the voice of [REDACTED]. Like, I made the source material, but this project is helmed by someone else with their own vision for this medium that I’ve never worked in.

And I’m not sure how much control authors generally have over audiobook adaptations, but it absolutely requires its own skillset and personnel! I resent Hollywood’s idea that different mediums are both in a strict hierarchy and totally interchangeable, but dismantling it will require open discussion of all the decisions that go into an adaptation.

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gostaks

Incidentally, the difference was less pronounced when audiobooks were primarily being created as a tool for accessibility. When I was a kid, my grandmother would sometimes let me read her audiobooks from the National Library for the Blind.

Unlike modern consumer audiobooks, these were created specifically as an accessibility tool for people who were blind or print disabled - they were often read by volunteers rather than professional voice actors, much less effort went into making them "polished", and there was very minimal acting. This was intentional - my blind relatives were pretty unhappy when the reader added their own emphasis and interpretation. The idea was that audiobooks were intended to be as close to a print equivalent as possible, which included having a faithful (and non-embellished) reproduction of the text.

This is arguably a case of a "reverse curb cut effect". Audiobooks are now much more widely available and affordable, which is great, but in the process they became a slightly less pure accessibility tool.

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jayalaw

Does emotion and emphasis harm the accessibility? I had no idea

y'all i am going to rephrase what i said in the original post for clarity because the point is being wildly missed here: accessibility is not about having exactly the same experience. the idea of a "pure" accessibility tool is baffling to me. the whole. point. of the post. is that different methods of accessing stories ARE DIFFERENT. they are not better or worse or pure or impure!

also it doesn't really matter whether an audiobook is polished or has a trained actor reading it. the difference is inherent to listening to a voice. THIS IS OKAY. it's just a thing!

Thank you; I appreciate the clarification. I wasn't sure.

I can't help thinking about how print is, in a sense, an accessibility tool as well! Stories were told orally long before they were written down; the written word (and later, print) just allowed for the wider dissemination of materials that wouldn't have been accessible to most people via word of mouth. Audiobooks are a way of participating in a human tradition that long predates written/printed books.

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faeriekit

...I had a guy come in today asking about how to get his kids library cards. I told him. He asked me how hard it would be for them to get them, and I said that all it took was their presence and his government ID.

He told me about how nice the system was here, where it was so easy to get a card; he said that there was a beautiful public library in Beijing that was top of the line and everything, but that the only way to access it was if you were a high ranking government official or a top professor or something. Instead, our library "serves the reader." His kids will be able to take chapter books home at no cost. He'll even be able to get books in Chinese here so that his native language skills don't atrophy.

I didn't even really know what to say, so I told him how to ask us to buy books for him that we don't already have so that he can still read them at no extra cost. I don't know how to shore up what it must feel like to know that there are books out there you can't read; I've always grown up with a good library nearby. It reminded me of working in my old library, though, where families who spoke Spanish were startled to find out we took any government ID with a formal address in town— even foreign IDs— so that their kids could get access to all of our titles in all the languages we offered.

Ah. Anyway, I hope you check out a library book with this thought in mind. I checked out the first volume of YJ98 today with that thought in mind. I didn't have to pay anything. I put it on hold, and there it was.

Wait, wait, wait. You're library BUYS books someone wants? Like you just tell them a title...and then they fucking BUY it!?!?

Where has this system been my whole life?

Well, it's been at the library, presumably.

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stele3

That’s always been a thing, babes, even at the rundown library in my childhood hometown. Had no funding but by god they tracked down the book I wanted and bought it for me.

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zisurru

every time i open my copy of amulet of samarkand i am forced to remember that uh

as a child i loved this book so much i started EATING THE PAGES

as a child i loved

this book so much i started

EATING THE PAGES

Beep boop! I look for accidental haiku posts. Sometimes I mess up.

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monjinator

My friend drove thru town with her baby and, more importantly, the baby Dracula book I had sent to her and it’s more hilarious than I could have imagined

There’s also a page where Jonathan is like “no wonder he wants to buy a new house!” When he sees the castle

In this house we bite and run

“No biting!” The theme here is that Dracula is a recalcitrant toddler. With a stuffed dragon

“That night, everyone slept very well.”

Perfection. Zero notes. I can’t believe I can send this to a baby and no one can stop me. Sorry, your baby is a new hilarious flavor of Dracula nerd now

I would like everyone to know that my friend texted me, and this book is apparently a huge hit with said baby, now a toddler, this year. They are teaching him not to bite and so every time Dracula bites someone he shakes his head and goes “no no!” Amazing. Dracula bringing the relevance to toddler fandom

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erikkwakkel

Circular song

Medieval music books, with their merry notes jumping off the page, are a pleasure to look at. This sensational page from the 14th century adds to this experience in a most unusual manner. It presents a well-known song, the French ballade titled En la maison Dedalus (In the house of Dedalus), be it that the scribe decided to write both music and lyrics in a circular form. There is reason behind this madness. The maze created by music and words locks up the main character of the song, the mythological figure Ariadne, who is a prisoner in the house of Daedalus - she is represented by the red dot. The book contains treatises on music theory, notation, tuning and chant. In other words, it was meant for experts readers. The beholder likely enjoyed the challenge of singing a circular song (did he or she spin the book around?) and how it held its subject hostage in the merriest of ways.

Pic: Berkeley, Music Library, MS 744 (made in Paris in 1375). More about the manuscript here, including more unusual images. This is a study of the book (the ballade is discussed at p. 14).

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sivavakkiyar

oh that’s actually kinda cute

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sealinne

Also at that conference was the great Peruvian novelist Mario Vargas Llosa. During the next two days the three of us made two discoveries about one another.

The first was that each of us had attacked at least one of the others in print. I had dissed Eco’s book. Umberto had criticized Mario for being too right-wing. Mario had criticized me for being too left-wing.

The second discovery was that we all got on like a house on fire.

It was Umberto who suggested we should now call ourselves The Three Musketeers. (This, remember, was the time of the Three Tenors, Pavarotti, Domingo and Carreras.) I remember asking, “Why Musketeers? Why not, for example, The Three Stooges?”

“No,” Umberto insisted. “It has to be Musketeers, because first we were enemies and now we are friends.”

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