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Jenna Well, now Pam and Jim are going to arrive to the office, and Pam is wearing her painting clothes because she's going to finally start on the mural in the warehouse. 

Angela Meredith has such sidebar sass. She goes, Queen of the primer this one. 

Jenna Yeah, she asked Pam, You sure you don't want to put another coat of primer on it? Queen of the primer. We had a fan question from Colleen S in Chicago who said, Do you have any stories behind Pam's painting clothes? The outfit was auctioned off after the series ended, and I ended up winning it. Jenna, if you would like to have it back, I would be more than happy to send it to you. Colleen, I have to tell you something. I have one, too. There were multiples. You know, all of our outfits, we had more than one. We had doubles in case we spilled something on it or something happened. So I have one of the sweatshirts, and you must have the other one. So I have one of the Pratt sweatshirts with all the paint on it. And this was just the idea of Alicia Raycraft, our costume designer. She came and she said, What do you think Pam's painting clothes are? And she had this idea. And I loved this call back to her time at Pratt. I just absolutely loved it. So creative. 

Angela It also looks like a very cozy sweatshirt. 

Jenna Oh, I loved this outfit. 

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Angela  There is a lot of sass in this talking head from Pam. I mean, you know, she kind of keeps going back to that thing, like, unless you told everyone but me, you know, kind of like that thing. And I thought, if Pam is saying this at work, what kind of shitake is being said at home? She is pissed. She is still pissed. 

Jenna  Pam is handling her feelings with sarcasm and humor, but I put that in quotes. 

Angela Yeah, I think it's more just like angry sarcasm. 

Jenna So it's important for me to share with everyone that this scene was scripted a little differently than how it ended up in the episode, and this is going to affect the storyline as we go on. The scene was originally scripted like this: Pam says, It's almost noon. Don't you need to go blow a hole in our savings? There's a little of her angry sarcasm. And Jim says, That's right. I knew I was forgetting to do something. And then he pauses and he said, Was that an all in good fun thing? Or- and Pam says, Yes. And then Jim says, You sure you're cool with putting in 5000? 

Angela Yeah. 

Jenna And she says, Yeah, I mean, if we're going to do this thing, we should do it right? And Jim says, You're the best. And Pam says, Seriously, I am. It's crazy. So I just want to say that in this story, Pam said that Jim could invest- 

Both 5000. 

Angela Well, it's what they agreed on. 

Jenna Yes, they had a conversation. So later in the episode, when he puts in 10,000, that is again not what they agreed on when they talked at home. And that is why Pam is going to get so mad. And I think it's kind of a bummer that that little tidbit got cut out, because otherwise it just seems like Pam is angry that Jim did something that they agreed to. 

Angela Right. 

Jenna But the truth is, the way it was originally written, he didn't. 

Jenna This was part of my storyline pitch that Pam's going to become a muralist. I was very excited about it. But then this is also where Pam finally gets the news. 

Angela Yes, Jim is now, I guess, emboldened by Darryl to be forthright. Maybe because Brian called him out on it, too we find out. 

Jenna Yeah. 

Angela He says he'd like to talk to her for a second. 

Jenna And we kind of talked about this. I think we know my feelings. Jim's like, what was I worried about? She's the best! 

Angela There's layers here, lady. Jim is instantly relieved. Pam is still feeling unsettled, as she should. 

Jenna And this was, by the way, all of this is what we talked about in our pitch meetings, about how let's expose some of the immaturities in Jim and Pam's marriage and relationship. 

Angela Relationship. 

Jenna Some ways where maybe they aren't as good of communicators as we think. 

Angela Well, this is also the thing that the writers struggled with, right? For Jim and Pam to have conflict but it wasn't breakup conflict. It was like passive conflict. 

Jenna It wasn't a fair conflict. 

Angela Yeah. 

Jenna And John and I were really excited about this because we thought, this is the stuff that real marriages go through. You know, this is the clunky kind of stuff that isn't like I'm cheating on you. 

Angela It's career. It's kids. It's making a mortgage. It's all of those things. 

Jenna Communication. 

Angela Jim and Pam arrive to work and Jim is just, man, is he being extra sweet. He's running ahead of her. He's opening the door so she can walk through it. Then he runs ahead to the elevator and he hits the button for her. And he has a talking head. He says, you know what? I finally told Pam about this new side job in Philly. She was so cool about it. And now I really want to do something great for her. Like defend her... 

Jenna The legal team at NBC had to clear the name Laverne's Pies Tires Fixed Also, before we could say it, they had to make sure that there was not a real place. 

Angela A Laverne's Pies Tires Fixed Also?

Jenna Yes. And just in case, they also cleared three other options; Laverne's Apple Pies, Laverne's Apple Pies and Others, and Laverne's Pies No Cakes Don't Ask. All four cleared. We had our choice and we went with Laverne's Pies Tires Fixed Also. 

Angela That one's my favorite. 

Jenna Totally my favorite. 

Jenna Pam tells Jim she is so happy to be eating pie, and he's so happy that he's made her happy. I want you to know, in the table read draft of the script, we did not make it to the pie stand. 

Angela Oh, that would have been so sad. 

Jenna That's what we said. Me, John, Rainn and Ed were like, they need to get pie. In the original version of the script, the only thing we make it to is a gas station, and Dwight brings out Hostess Pies for everybody. 

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Angela Jim and Pam have a scene where they discuss what they're buying Roy for his upcoming wedding. 

Jenna Oh? 

Angela Yeah, and they're at their desk. They're looking at the wedding registry website. And then there was a Pam talking head about it. Let's hear it. 

Pam Roy Anderson, my former fiance, is getting married. Unless his bride pulls what I'm sure they call a Pam. Or a that bitch Pam. 

Angela And wait. There was a candy bag alt that was a must shoot. So you did say this to the camera. Here was an alt talking head. Pam would have said, Roy Anderson, my former fiancee, is getting married. What do you get for a man whose butt you've seen thousands of times? 

Jenna Okay. 

Angela And I zoomed in on the wedding registry website. They decide to get Roy a ladle. Right? Like a fancy ladle. And Pam's like, that doesn't seem like a lot. Jim's like, I don't know. Get him the spoon, too. I looked. The ladle cost $174. 

Jenna Whoa! 

Angela Yeah. 

Jenna Well, my question is, how big is this ladle? Because that gift that they're carrying out of Jim and Pam's house, that box is very large. 

Angela I know. I thought that, too. I'm like, what is that? The ladle, the spoon, a platter? 

Jenna All right, next up, fan question from Caden M in Warrenville, Illinois. Jenna, was it scripted that you put the other half of the banana on the plate or was that an adlib? It's one of the funniest moments in the whole show. 

Angela I agree! I agree! When the waiter says, Can I take your peel? And she flops it on the tray and grabbed a mimosa, I was like, Oh, I like this Pam, This Pam is ready to, like, take on this wedding. 

Jenna Well, this was a scripted moment. And here's what it said. It was scripted that Pam, quote, Awkwardly stuffs the rest of the banana in her mouth and gives the peel to the caterer. The caterer, by the way, was played by David Britz, and we had a good time. 

Jenna Jim and Pam are shook up by the wedding. 

Angela I mean, talk about mouth agape. When Roy starts playing the piano and singing, Pam is like, Wha? 

Jenna The whole point of this storyline- and it's interesting because talk about digital clutter, I put Roy's Wedding into my email because I was looking for tidbits from Steve Burgess, and I found these old emails between me, Greg, Alison Silverman and John Krasinski, where we were pitching different ideas. And this idea that somehow Jim and Pam would run into Roy and he would have bettered himself, like that he had grown in his time away from Pam, this was really important because it was supposed to, of course, further highlight how the same Jim and Pam are, how like growth seems to have eluded them. 

Angela Not only that, but how they're disconnected. Roy and Laura seem very connected. 

Jenna Yes. I do want to point out one thing in the car, which I find curious, at 9 minutes and 24 seconds, you can see Cece's car seat in the car. Makes sense. These things live in a car. But also Phillip's pumpkin seat. Usually you leave the pumpkin seed at home, right? It just clicks into the base. That's how we did it. We had a base in each car but the pumpkin seat goes inside. 

Angela Yeah, you have the carrier- the carrier seat stays with the child because there's probably a base in Pam's mom's car. 

Jenna Exactly. 

Angela Yeah. That's a good catch. 

Jenna I'll tell you what, Phillip's not going anywhere today because his pumpkin seat is in Jim and Pam's car.