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all police are paranoid.

@caesthoffe / caesthoffe.tumblr.com

they/it/neos ☆ 21 ☆ gay aro enby ☆ slut for benjamin burnley ☆ anarcho-communist ☆ i use reclaimed slurs, deal with it https://caesthoffe.neocities.org
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when i am venting about the way i am perceived and show discomfort in the fact that as a no-op trans masc enby people will only really see me as a lesbian i should not have to preface that with an apology. i shouldn't have to say "but there's nothing wrong with being a lesbian !!!" because when a trans woman talks about not wanting to be perceived as an effeminate man, she doesn't have to make the same disclaimer i do. i'm so fucking sick of the weird double standards that the queer community likes to put on trans mascs. we aren't allowed to girlmode for safety because it's privileged, but boymoding is accepted and justified for being a safety measure. we can't have our own word for transphobia that specifically affects us, but trans women can? why?

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The radfem idea that trans men are "mutilated" or "poor little girls turning into gross disgusting men" or "a loss to all women" etc is so infuriating.

Our entire existence and expression should not be molded into what some radfem says is best for us. Bodily autonomy means that I am the expert on my own body, and I know what is best for myself.

My body does not exist to be fuckable or attractive to you. My body is my own and I will do whatever the fuck I want to it to help me live a comfortable, happy life. If I begin to look like a man, good.

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Actually, it occurs to me,

“You can’t use transmisandry, because when you remove trans, it’s just misandry, which isn’t a systemic form of oppression

“And you can’t use transandrophobia, because when you remove trans, it’s just androphobia which isn’t a systemic form of oppression”

being countered with people trying a new word—largely anti-transmasculinity—to appease those who are saying the above, still falls into the trap of making a word which, if you remove the word trans, isn’t a systemic form of oppression: anti-masculinity in the case of anti-transmasculinity.

Which just goes to show that there really is no way to play this game with the types of people who use the construction of the word itself as the focus of their criticism instead of engaging with what we’re actually saying.

And it also really just ties right back into the whole “if a trans man wasn’t trans” angle of discussion, which is absolutely ridiculous because it relies on separating a trans man’s transness and masculinity, which is the opposite of intersectional, and I talked about more over here [x] and don’t want to get into more here and make the post even longer.

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Ok so today I was on the bus with another trans guy and we were talking about how hard it is to get testosterone. The waiting lists, the price, all the doctors you have to go to, that kind of stuff. Except, we were calling it ’T’, like you do when you’re both closeted and in public.

Then suddenly the elderly lady sitting behind us was like ‘young men, either I’m going crazy or you both have never heard of supermarkets, they have shelves full of tea there! Do you need directions to one?’

To which my buddy starts to explain, because why not. ‘Well you see, we’re both trans, and… ’

The lady didn’t wait for him to finish his sentence. ‘Oh no, I don’t mind that at all! Now do you want to know how to get to a place that sells tea? I’m actually heading there right now!’

We let her take us to the supermarket. We let her show us, excitedly, where the tea was. We both bought loads.

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happy pride to every male & masc queer who feels alienated from the community during pride month. many places are taking to create "she+" and "femme & them" type events that conflate non binary identities with womanhood without creating similar spaces and events for mascs & men, leaving many trans men and mascs to feel totally alienated because their is no designated day or space for them to celebrate. while it's great to celebrate femininity & womanhood, we should be celebrating queer manhood and masculinity alongside it. it's important to have groups and events for all members of our community

if you feel alienated because you don't fit into these spaces, happy pride to you. happy pride to the butches and lesboys who don't feel safe going to lesbian events because of this. happy pride to trans mascs & men who don't have a space to go or a day to celebrate themselves. happy pride to non binary queers, genderqueer people and gnc people who are not feminine or female and have nowhere to go. happy pride to masculine and male intersex people who can't exist in the spaces they want to.

happy pride to cis masc and male queers who feel completely estranged from the community. happy pride to trans girls who are also men who cannot express their manhood at the risk of people using it as a weapon to misgender you. happy pride to the bigender and multigender people who are have to prioritize their feminine or female identities in order to make other people "feel safe." happy pride to the genderfluid people who don't get to talk about their masculinity or manhood. happy pride to the masc gays who feel alienated

we deserve to celebrate ourselves as well. take care of yourself this pride month

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it really is so uncomfortable being a trans man in cis centric conversations of feminism. I just wonder. do they know about people like me? do they care? if I brought it up to them, how would they react? Do they expect me to be their human shield?

we know. We care. We would react with feminist analysis about how bio sex affects sex based oppression more than gender identity. We do not expect you to be our human shield. In fact, we want to stand with you and take the blows with you, but its often difficult when there are people who think that being called female is an insult instead of a body type.

frankly I think it’s more insulting that you think I don’t realize what you are doing here. I am not your ally and your dog whistles are obvious. Nice try, but please fuck off.

Damn I’ve never seen such a succinct example of the way terfs gaslight and coerce ppl into their hate movements. Seeing someone is feeling vulnerable and immediately jumping on it to try to manipulate them into a hate movement. I want to write a damn dissertation on this one paragraph

How to indoctrinate someone into a cult in a few easy steps

Step 1) identify potential recruit - IE someone vulnerable. Common targets are children, people who’ve been rejected by peers or other communities, people who are lonely and lacking external support systems, etc. Those groups are more likely to be targeted but anyone in a sufficiently vulnerable place can be susceptible to this kind of indoctrination

why would a terf try to indoctrinate someone making a post that is literally advocating for trans inclusion? a couple reasons

OP is expression a genuine critique of the way cis centric feminism excludes and hurts trans people. But it also expresses 1) a feeling of isolation and 2) frustration with a group the cult opposes. both of these things can easily be used to manipulate ppl into joining the cult

Now obviously OP is clearly educated on the dog whistles used by terfs and know to tell them to fuck off, but the terf doesn't exactly know that when making their manipulative comments. when recruiting for a cult you might as well make an attempt to manipulate and recruit anyone who seems viable, the worst they can do is say no. and if they tell you to fuck off because they saw through your attempts at manipulation, then you can get yourself a nice screenshot of a "evil" trans person "rudely" replying to a "kind and helpful message". it's a win win and all that.

Step 2) the soft sell. you need to hook the possible recruit in. this can be done in many ways, maybe they draw you in with a promise of community or salvation, or you're convinced to go to a barbecue with a friend. they talk to you about the unfairness of society and offer you an answer to your problems.

the soft sell used above is an ideological sell, with a nice sprinkle of love bombing to seal the deal

"we know. we care." and "We do not expect you to be our human shield. In fact, we want to stand with you and take the blows with you," are both manipulative statements designed to pray on those feelings of loneliness. they imply protection, community, people who want you and care about you. why would anyone reject that?

"We would react with feminist analysis about how bio sex affects sex based oppression more than gender identity."

this is the soft sell of the ideology. they don't come out the gate calling trans people predators, they water down and soften the ideology into the most palatable form possible. terms like "feminist analysis" are carefully chosen to make the argument sound as academic and reasonable as possible.

"but its often difficult when there are people who think that being called female is an insult instead of a body type."

once again a soft sell, but this time instead of trying to make themselves seem academic the focus is on making the opposition look ridiculous. It implies trans people are ridiculous for not wanting to be referred to something as “simple” and “obvious” as a body type, while also flattening and oversimplifying the very complex topic of the spectrum of human sexes and genders. Basically it’s a very condescending straw man argument

It also paints trans ppl as misogynistic for thinking “that being called female is an insult”. Paint yourself as the desirable moral high ground vs their problematic ideals. Once again this is a strawman argument.

Both of these strawman are particularly infuriating bc none of this was even being discussed in the original post. They dragged their strawman into the conversation just to make themselves look better, but whatever

“but its often difficult when there are people who think that being called female is an insult”

I’ve already established how “ppl who think being called female is an insult” is just a shady dogwhistley way to demonize trans ppl. It’s like setting up your own scarecrow and giving it a MRA t shirt and a trans bracelet

But if you focus on the “but it’s often difficult” part, this is just an obvious attempt to shift the blame for your feelings onto trans people. This implies that there are people who want to protect you but they just can’t because those mean ole trannies won’t let them :((. Isn’t it so tragic?

In this one short paragraph this person is using multiple types of manipulation and is demonstrating a pretty textbook attempt to indoctrinate someone. I applaud their form it’s near perfect /sarcastic

Now obviously OP knows enough to shut this down, but let’s talk about what might happen if someone who didn't know how to do that was approached by a similar message

The soft sell doesn’t stop after the first interaction. that's just the litmus test to see if they'd be wasting their time on you or not. The point is to keep the conversation going and continuously manipulate them deeper and deeper into this worldview. The inductor will often try to take things to a private conversation, like going out for coffee or, more commonly online, taking things to DMs. This prevents any friends of the possible recruit or more knowledgeable tumblr users from poking holes in their logic or identifying their manipulative techniques. It’s also helpful to isolate the possible recruit as quickly as possible.

This leads pretty easily into the next few steps, step 3: the new worldview (tldr distort their worldview into one that suits your own needs), step 4: establishing the enemy(an enemy gives them something to oppose, to fear, to direct their anger towards, and a reason for you to ask them to stay so you can fight the enemy together), and step 5: the dear leader. From there you use step 6: peer pressure to prevent them from leaving, fueled by an unhealthy dose of love bombing and punishing dissent

the middle steps (3-5) don't have to be in that exact order and are usually involved in the early steps to indoctrinate, and then weaponized against ppl in the later steps to keep them from leaving or criticizing

and ah, yeah that's how to indoctrinate someone into a cult. You will note that intelligence has very little to do with protecting yourself from cults. the only thing that does work is understanding how they work and being able to recognize their tactics and dogwhistles

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