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Currently obsessed with american pop punk band The Wonder Years. This blog is mostly just a collection of things that I'm interested in at the moment, whether it's music or a new fandom or just queer memes in general. I'll probably appear once in a while to reblog a bunch of posts about a new obsession that you didn't follow me for and then vanish off into the unknown again. Current interests include: the wonder years, spanish love songs, hot mulligan, against me, doctor who, etc.
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All the clock symbolism in Goncharov was so well done. If you read into the narrative and assume that Goncharov is pining after Andrey, all of the shots of Goncharov glancing down at his pocket watch makes so much more sense.

Andrey is doomed to die from the beginning of the film, we all know that. He chose this life. But it we pay attention, Andrey himself never actually looks at a clock. Sure, during the bridge scene, we can see a giant clock tower looming over him in the background, but that’s for us to see, not Andrey. It’s to remind us that he’s running out of time. Andrey already knows that. He’s aware that, if he doesn’t make the right choices regarding his deal with Ice Pick Joe, he’ll be a dead man.

But why does Goncharov keep looking at his watch? He’s not a part of the deal with Ice Pick Joe. His fate isn’t decided. But, like I said, Goncharov is obviously in love with Andrey, and he knows that Andrey’s time is running out. And you might be thinking, “Aren’t Goncharov and Andrey enemies?” Well, yes. But that’s because they’re supposed to be, it’s what’s expected of them. Andrey joined Slippery Steve in the train heist, and Goncharov was chosen to stop them. They were forced into the roles of enemies.

But when Andrey is almost knocked off the top of the train, Goncharov saves him, clinging onto his hands and refusing to let go. This is obviously showcasing Goncharov’s love for Andrey, and how he won’t let his feelings go. His feelings are why he keeps anxiously glancing at clocks, fearful of the approaching day of Andrey’s death. It’s eating him alive. Time is his worst enemy.

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Most of Tumblr completely misunderstands Ice Pick Joe’s function in the narrative as a whole, and it’s absolutely infuriating. He’s not just some guy with an ice pick, but rather the driving force of the film’s narrative and themes. It is impossible to understand the interplay of machismo, homosocial relationships and male loneliness and alienation from society without the crucial through-line of Ice Pick Joe as a foil to Goncharov himself.

Goncharov can never be whole, as evidenced by the always missing stop watch in the second half of the film, his core character costume piece. Goncharov feels like his stopwatch is critical to his sense of self and identity, as using it to count and time his acts of violence was the thing that allowed access to the world of men when he was just a boy. Losing it therefore loses part of himself. Whereas Ice Pick Joe, in the pivotal scene where he saves himself from death on the mountain by finally using the ice pick for its intended purpose instead of the world of violence he was born into, becomes whole as he sheds the need to conquer nature, thereby shedding his need to conquer ppl.

All this to say that Ice Pick Joe is far more complex than Tumblr gives him credit for.

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I love that Goncharov is getting attention again, it's a great classic, but I am sad that everyone is only focusing on the characters when the cinematography and symbolism was so rich.

Like Ice Pick Joe, did you know his death was foreshadowed by the color yellow? I wish I had screenshots, but everytime they mentioned death, dying, mortality, sickness, etc, there is something yellow or gold on or near him. Like how he was playing with the gold watch when the conversation about Jimmy Bean getting "iced" took place (Ice and snow were another big symbol with Joe and death both) or when Goncharov opens up about seeing his mom die, Joe is standing in front of yellow curtains. All of this comes to a head when he dies wearing the yellow coat in the dirty yellow snow.

I could go on about this movie, (don't get me started on the use of red as a symbol of power) but in between all the shipping and character study, I just want everyone to remember how much visual art went into this film.

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girlgerard

this has been tearing me apart since noon. what the actual fuck. this is all suuuuch a prelude

not only was it explicitly diana, gerard was VERY AWARE and VERY INTENTIONAL about which of her outfits they wanted to wear! and they chose the outfit she wore to demonstrate feeling like an outcast! AND wore her ribbon collar, which was a statement of female protest in a male-dominated power system, something that diana has talked about intentionally wearing for that reason.

not saying that this was intentional on gerard’s part given that it’s a pretty niche thing to know but. man. all the little details in these outfits are astounding, purposefully meaningful or not.

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NO BUT THE SYMBOLISM IS KILLING ME. i know I'm not reading too much into it bc the production team pays very close attention to the detail. when she only just got the earring, she tucked her hair behind that ear, meaning she has a new family to show the stars to. after meeting the Master, her hair was always covering her ears, because she got closed off, up until lotsd, when the earring gets hijacked (not sure yet about the deeper meaning behind it, but I'll think of something. trying to rip the link between the human and the alien nature perhaps, no that sounds silly. I'll think of something more clever fjdjd). and then there's that shot with her earring, and we know for a fact that when they want us to see the jewelry and the meaning behind it, they do it so we can't miss it, like Yaz's little blue hearts here:

and of course then there's this. the lingering almost-touch

tl;dr local alien just wants to hold hands with a pretty girl 😭

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also! why do you think in claire’s mind theyre on a beach and why do they change places from on a sand beach to pebbles?

#its'because the conversation turned…….rocky #ashdkgjhdfkg #no but that second part IS where they talk about the division so like makes sense i guess (@you-have-to-use-your-imagination)

And the sea gets rougher. It’s now clearly a peninsula with an island at the end that will be cut off when the tide comes in. And that’s got to be a meta in and of itself.

Is it the Rogue Angel’s visualisation? Because it is Claire’s mind. Like a visual representation of its experience (with the tide of the Division coming in) and what it seeks to do (isolate the Doctor, leave her stranded).

And/Or is it the Doctor, and the concept that gaining back what information was lost by the Division will cut her off from her past, her self, and there will be no going back.

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Y’all know when Mulan is sitting in the rain and watches her parents silhouette disappear as the candle is blown out and then her eyes squint in determination and the music that starts to play and you see her go into the family temple and light a match and bow in respect and then sneak into her parents room and switch the scroll for her hair brooch and then the way her reflection is shown as she pulls the sword and cuts her hair?? It’s literally more iconic than any marvel movie

Y’all know that there is heavy symbolism in that scene to show that Mulan is the spirit of the Great Stone Dragon and that’s why Mushu wasn’t able to awaken it?

im sorry What!! i never knew this! my life feels fuller!!! ahhhh

Mulan sits in the rain underneath the statue of the Great Stone Dragon (who is looking down on her), and suddenly decides on a course of action. She looks up, resolved to go to war in place of her father and runs into the temple where she lights the match and beseeches protection for her family. The stone she bows to and that we see lit up by lightening strike is that of the dragon, whose eyes are looking out after her, lit from underneath by the candles. The scene transitions to the divider in the house that also has an icon of the dragon. where she replaces her hair comb with the summons. Then we see the sword hilt, also the dragon, and as she draws the blade we see her face replace it. She ties up her hair, then as she opens the wardrobe, the handles are also the dragon. After donning the armor, the view shows her facing us, with the hilt of the sword (the face of the dragon) in front of her face, where she then turns the sword to reveal her face, and sheaths it. As she leaves, we flash back to the temple, and the eyes of the dragon flash as her grandmother wakes up.

The Great Stone Dragon resides within her. She is the protector of the family.

After this explanation, the scene where Mushu cannot wake up the stone dragon makes so much more sense. I appreciate the symbolism so much more. I noticed the dragon but didn’t notice she was constantly juxtaposed with the dragon!

Canon accepted.

Holy shit

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elven-child

Every now and then someone in the fandom rediscusses "what if Aziraphale didn't step into the circle and went to Crowley's place instead of calling him, but the bookshop still burned because of that candle that fell over" (which would result in both of them thinking the other is dead because in Crowley's flat there's just the empty thermos and a pile of clothes and a stain on the floor), and I just. Can't stop thinking about this because it's a scene literally asking to be included in the show - when you put aside the PAIN it's actually perfect since 1) it actually could have happened and 2) the JUXTAPOSITION of those two scenes would MURDER us all like. There would be destruction by fire vs destruction by water. You'd have Crowley surrounded by ash and burning pages flying in the air vs Aziraphale in that empty minimalist flat. The crash of the window pane breaking and the flush of water from the fire hose vs the dead silence and stillness of the empty apartment. Crowley screaming vs Aziraphale being silent because I'm sure he'd try to stifle and suppress all his emotional reactions even if he didn't quite succeed. Crowley running around the place, all his emotions on display and his eyes visible vs Aziraphale sitting down at Crowley's desk all hunched and hidden inside himself, his eyes shut, pressing his hand to his mouth not to let a single whimper out. The chaotic everything happening inside the bookshop vs the undisturbed nothing happening inside the flat

Just. Poetic cinema that would obliterate me on the spot

AHHHH FUCK

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From the DVD commentary:

The Garden of Eden scene, the wing scene is coming up

Douglas Mackinnon: And we’re heading towards what, I think, is actually my favourite shot in the entire series, which is the shot where it starts to rain and a wing comes up to cover the other angel.

Neil Gaiman: And it also covers Adam and Eve.

Douglas Mackinnon: Yeah.

Neil Gaiman: I love the fact that they’re covered by it too. 

People have pointed out that the piano lid in the very very very last shot of the last episode reflects that wing and I’ve always meant to ask you if that was intentional or just gloriously accidental.

Douglas Mackinnon: It was gloriously intentional.

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neil-gaiman

I learned things from doing the DVD commentaries…

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ambular-d

I…never realized his wing was also covering Adam and Eve…

Gah I fucking love this show

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i still can’t get over the fact that Crowley went out of his way to keep the fucking eagle/dove/albatross statue from the church on 1941 london like….are you fucking kidding me. he kept it and put it in his goddamn house. what kinda high key romantic ass bullshit

like, for real though, that is the kind of over-the-top romantic detail that i’d expect to see in a fic! in fact, i have seen it in fics, and i had to go back and re-watch the show just to make sure i wasn’t misremembering him having that statue in his flat. but no, it’s fucking there.

statues/carvings in good omens are all very symbolic - the wrestling angel statue in crowley’s flat, the chariot statue in aziraphale’s bookshop, even the corner of crowley’s freaking desk is a cherub/serpent. so what on earth could the symbolism of crowley holding onto this freaking statue be?

this statue was the only other thing, aside from the books and crowley/aziraphale themselves, to survive the bombing.

it’s also used, in no uncertain terms, to frame aziraphale and mimic his wings, a shot that’s later also used for crowley.

after the bombing, aziraphale has his reminder of what crowley did for him: his life and his books. but what about crowley? what does he have to remember this moment? 

he has a statue. he takes a statue of a holy bird, with its wings outstretched like aziraphale’s were the day they met in the fucking garden of eden, as a reminder of this moment. he keeps it just for himself and makes sure it’s prominently displayed in his flat. he puts somewhere he will see it every single freaking day for the next 78 years

i just… this is some highkey romantic fanfic-level bullshit and i can’t believe we actually got to see it in the freaking show.

Ahhh I love this show

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Anonymous asked:

Are there any official photos of Aziraphale wearing his hat in 40s London? He only wears it a few secs in epi 3, I was hoping there was a pic.

Hiya, no, I’m afraid I don’t know about any official photos :(.

I tried to take a screenshot at least :) :

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OH

THE LIGHT

THE LIGHT ON THAT FIRST SCREENSHOT

IT LOOKS LIKE HIS WINGS

excuse my lack of drawing skills

STOP NOTICING THINGS FUCK I CANT TAKE IT

JESUS CHRIST! This goes perfectly with the burning wings after the church is destroyed!!

the light wings were a reminder of Aziraphale’s angelicness right before we see him fall  for Crowley

I CAN’T FUCKING DEAL WITH THIS SHOW ANYMORE!!!

AHHH FUCJ

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