#but also it helps to remember that things a character says about another aren't inherently true especially if they're antagonistic to them

Before the week ends I have a question for the people

I dont remember the chapter but there's a page where knives calls vash a contradiction because of his naive ideals and "pride"...yeah that confuses me. I have never seen vash as someone who has pride. He says it himself in stampede but that's technically another vash, I guess.

THE POINT IS: I can see how vash is a contradiction (his patience and faith in humans vs the anger he carries thanks to them) but I don't see any pride in that? Thoughts?

buccellato

I always figured he meant it in a "not seeing the forest through the trees" sort of way tbh, like Knives believed that deep down Vash knew and agreed with him but he was too stubborn to admit that he was wrong. Since Knives is dedicated to the idea that he's Always Right™️, especially with regards to Vash, he may be viewing Vash's disagreement as a matter of personal pride instead of something that comes from a place of genuine belief. It's another way to belittle him for not doing what he wants imo

#his arguments tend to give off big “scoldings from an older family member for going against their wishes” vibes to me though #so I could just be reading it in a funny way lmao #but also it helps to remember that things a character says about another aren't inherently true especially if they're antagonistic to them #what Knives is saying may be meant to be taken with a grain of salt either way since he's been presented as the antagonist from the start #and “genuinely listening and trying to understand each other is good” is an intentional reoccurring theme for trigun #trigunbookclub