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Root and Shaw. Person of Interest || HTGAWM, Clexa, OB, Sense8, JJ, OITNB || 20, Italy
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Anonymous asked:

why do you like finch less and less?

because he’s just so….hypocritical? he built The Machine to help people, but always made sure it never took away people’s free will. that was the whole /point/ because he’s always argued that an artificial intelligence should never control humanity like that (exactly why he hates Samaritan) yet when The Machine actually lets humans have their free will (like with that radio guy max in 5x07) he says we can’t trust The Machine anymore?? (even though the man made his OWN decisions, knowing it could risk his life.) also finch dismisses root’s ideas a lot of the time just to then realise she was right all along. (for the past few episodes i’ve been screaming LISTEN TO ROOT at him most of the time). i liked elias’ idea that he was the most dangerous. it might seem like he has purely good morals but he absolutely does not. he can in fact be very very selfish and like i said, hypocritical, a lot of the time. i’m curious as to where they’re gonna take his character.

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Yeah I agree, that’s what I was thinking when Max died. Truth is Max kinda reminded me of Suluiman Khan. They tried everything to save him, but in the end his own curiosity killed him, it was his choice and I think that exact same thing would have happened with Max no matter how much longer they tried to change his mind. And they didn’t even have the time for that, few more minutes and they would all be dead. It’s very possible Machine run simulations and decided there is no way to save him without… I don’t know, locking him up against his will, which definitely isn’t something Harold would or should have wanted? It was a bit morally ambiguous on The Machine’s part, but it’s not like that’s the first time it happens, we know already that The Machine does care about them and the arguments about free will… well, the more you think about it the less clear the whole concept is, because how much of our choices are really “free will” and how much is societal pressure, upbringing, personality, idk even our genes and natural tendencies, our past… point is I think The Machine made the right choice, chances were otherwise both Root and John would have died and so would Max. And as much as I value Harold’s opinion and his lack of total trust in artificial intelligence, because that’s what made creating The Machine possible, in the last episodes especially I’m just really damn annoyed with him. He acts as if he’s morally superior, like Kate said - dismisses all of Root’s ideas and refuses to see that the old methods aren’t work anymore. With Samaritan online, they’re in a brave new world, Elias is right saying that old rules don’t apply anymore and Harold refuses to see that.

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eemersonm

friendly reminder that the poi writers were clever enough to figure out how they could kill off every single one of their main characters in season 4, creating all the emotions, shock, and drama that goes along with that storytelling but without actually killing any of their main characters.

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It's funny that people are so mad about POI not being procedural anymore. They are pretty much admitting that they are not smart enough to follow the story line. The reason NBC/CBS get so many viewers is because they pick up shows that are procedural so that the average American can watch any episode, at any time, and pick up the story line. Which explains why POI /had/ such high ratings. The more the story expanded, the less people watched it. That girl is literally upset that she's too dumb.

Well, I wouldn’t call anyone dumb for liking procedurals. I definitely think procedurals have a place in television and especially since everyone watches/enjoys tv for different reasons I would begrudge anyone their comfort shows. Like I want to write tv, and since I’m not in school right now it’s the closest thing I can really get to literary analysis (and any sort of mental stimulation tbh) so I get really really overly analytical about it, but I absolutely don’t expect everyone to experience television that way and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to watch something that’s just easy, because sometimes that’s what you need.

But that being said I am still really upset about their reaction to it, because they’re literally pointing out the fact that there are dozens of shows like that on the air right now, and highly formulaic episodic shows have dominated the history of series that have enjoyed the longest runs for precisely the reason you said. Which means if that’s the kind of television you’re looking to watch, you have so many options, especially if you want to watch a show about two white dudes tbh. But PoI as it exists right now is one of the only shows of its kind on television—for people who want to watch a complex scifi show with a deeply developed mythology and two complex and dark and challenging female protagonists who straddle the line of morality in a way that traditionally only male protagonists (ever-popular grizzled antiheroes) are allowed to, and who also form the most significant romantic relationship on the show, there’s literally nowhere else for us to turn.

The writers don’t owe you anything (they don’t owe us anything either). This is they story they want to tell, and if that has turned out to not be the story you want to watch then you don’t have to watch it. You can say, hey wow I really liked this show before, but it’s changed a lot and it’s not my cup of tea anymore so I’m going to stop watching it. Or if you can figure out a constructive, well thought out way to criticize the show, sure, fine, go ahead and do that. But the thing that just makes me want to scream is the fact that pretty much the only thing they know how to do is tear down the female characters (and the actresses who play them, and the writers who created them… and also by extension all the neurodivergent gay/bi girls who identify so strongly with them and for whom this is so intensely personal because this may be the very first time they’ve seen certain aspects of themselves reflected in any character ever, much less in the heroes of a story).

Literally all they ever do is tear down Root and call her an irredeemably horrible person (when they jump through hoops to humanize and sympathize with male characters who do things that are objectively much much worse), and they tear down the writers for “blatant favoritism” (which is hilarious because when has anyone ever accused writers of favoritism for focusing on male characters more than female characters? never, because that’s not favoritism that’s just the way things should be apparently). But anyways, it’s just. so hurtful but not at all surprising that they can’t think of anything real to criticize about this show, so they fall back on attacking and blaming the women on it for “ruining” something that was so ~perfect~ before. I mean this is the way it’s been since literally the beginning of time, since fucking Eve in the garden, since the women in Greek Myth and all the way back to the fucking Epic of Gilgamesh, and at this point it’s just exhausting. So yeah. That is something I’d call dumb—tearing down female characters (and tearing down the girls who don’t just view them as their ‘favorite characters,’ like those people might view the male characters, but as possibly the only thing that is keeping them alive) because you can’t come up with anything real or substantial to criticize.

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and also amy acker is the sweetest person alive and doesn’t deserve that shit so fuck off

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